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00:00 bshum So there's a "keyword_entry" table that stores all the keyword data for every record.
00:00 bshum And a title_entry table, tec.
00:00 bshum *etc.
00:00 bshum And you can add custom definitions for each type of search
00:00 bshum That's where "reingest" comes into play.  Basically there are triggers on bibs where when you update them, it goes and updates corresponding entries in these other metabib tables.
00:01 bshum So we force it to update the corresponding entries by re-running those on any given biblio record
00:02 dcook Intriguing!
00:02 bshum This is many years removed, but my remembering of Koha is that there's a separate index that sort of gets used for search purposes.  Zebra or such?
00:03 bshum Anywho
00:03 dcook Yeah, Zebra does most of the indexing for Koha. We send over Z39.50 queries for most of our MARC searches.
00:03 bshum I like to believe that future versions of PostgreSQL with improvements for full text search will lead to more fun times. :D
00:04 dcook Is that fun times or "fun" times :p
00:04 dcook ?
00:04 bshum I like to think fun.
00:04 dcook Cool!
00:04 dcook I've only used PostgreSQL a bit with DSpace but it looks interesting.
00:04 dcook The CLI is a bit...different but interesting.
00:04 bshum I keep hearing about nice speed performance improvements with newer indexes.  I don't know if we can use them right away, but I think it'll be fun to poke at down the road.
00:05 * bshum probably doesn't know what he's talking about entirely :)
00:05 dcook hehe
00:05 dcook So do you just store the MARC for a record?
00:06 dcook With Koha, we store a blob of MARCXML, assorted data extracted from the MARCXML, then we also index the MARCXML using Zebra
00:06 dcook The idea being that the MARCXML blob is the source of truth, which updates the assorted other fields (for faster retrieval little bits of info here and there) and the Zebra indexes (for more intense searching)
00:07 dcook Err...what I meant was.
00:08 dcook You clearly store the indexed data in those entry tables. I assume then there are either blobs somewhere with full records, or lots of rows where a MARC record has been decomposed into rows?
00:09 bshum Oh sure
00:09 bshum So biblio.record_entry in our database stores marcxml
00:09 bshum And that gets split out into the various metabib tables for each type of search.
00:10 bshum I guess that's similar.
00:10 bshum But still all in the same database
00:12 dcook Pretty similar.
00:12 dcook So biblo.record_entry would just store the whole record in one field?
00:13 bshum Indeed.
00:13 dcook Sweet
00:13 dcook I think I like your way better :p
00:14 bshum I think there's a metabib.real_full_rec which shards out each field of MARC
00:14 bshum That's one of the largest tables in our systems.
00:14 dcook Hehe. I was just thinking it must be fairly massive.
00:15 dcook biblioitems in Koha is rather enormous though. It stores the full MARCXML (minus items) in a field, then bits and pieces in other fields.
00:15 dcook Anyway, thanks for the info :)
00:17 bshum Sure thing :)
00:20 bshum @later tell dbwells Oh you know... maybe this is weird 9.3 stuff.  This is a newer postgres we're using for our test server and maybe it's mucking something up?  I really will look more closely tomorrow on why it's creating nonsense.
00:20 pinesol_green bshum: The operation succeeded.
00:25 bshum Well it works fine with our concerto database.  So, maybe I just have some really strange records causing things to break down.
00:28 bshum I can't even figure out why it would even try inserting what it did.  We don't have any bib IDs that go that high.
00:28 bshum (yet)
00:30 bshum Huh....
00:30 bshum Though we seem to have four bibs where the 800 $t is a semicolon and indexed as ''
00:30 bshum That's weird.
00:31 bshum Well, that there exists a screwed up $t and a good $t that is.
00:31 bshum There's two
00:31 * bshum hits head on table
00:49 dcook :(
01:07 bshum Grr
01:07 bshum It's got to be something weird with some other browse index in my system.  I removed the one we're testing and it's still failing and doing weird stuff.
01:07 bshum I wish I could figure out which bib was breaking this
01:15 * dcook believes in bshum!
01:49 bshum Whee, added a RAISE NOTICE statement to read off the bib_id for whatever it tries inserting
01:49 bshum Now I'll find the culprit bib!
01:49 bshum (maybe)
01:54 bshum Hmm
02:00 bshum Aha
02:00 bshum Well that's weird.
02:00 bshum Guess it's one of our custom indexes
02:01 bshum For authors, we added one for tag 720 subfield a
02:01 bshum And it's marked a browse field and had browse_xpath stuff
02:01 bshum We have to look more closely at how that's defined I guess
02:01 bshum Sigh
02:02 bshum Oh well, fun learning experience, and now I know how to add RAISE NOTICE to my functions to learn where in the function things break down.
02:02 bshum Yay!
02:04 * bshum goes to sleep with one minor mystery solved.
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07:29 eeevil bshum: if you'll pastebin the index def, list of normalizers applied (and their pos) and offending MARC, I'll try to spot the exact problem with th 720
07:29 eeevil should'a later'd that...
07:29 eeevil @later tell bshum if you'll pastebin the index def, list of normalizers applied (and their pos) and offending MARC, I'll try to spot the exact problem with th 720
07:29 pinesol_green eeevil: The operation succeeded.
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08:53 kmlussier @tea
08:53 * pinesol_green brews and pours a pot of Tsui Yu Jade Oolong Tea, and sends it sliding down the bar to kmlussier (http://ratetea.com/tea/eco-cha/​tsui-yu-jade-oolong-tea/6778/)
08:53 kmlussier bshum++
08:54 kmlussier @tea [someone]
08:54 * pinesol_green brews and pours a pot of Dong Ding Oolong, and sends it sliding down the bar to Go away, or I'll replace you with a very small shell script! (http://ratetea.com/tea/tradi​tion/dong-ding-oolong/4660/)
08:54 bshum Well, it's not *that* smart yet :(
08:54 kmlussier bshum: Is that how it's supposed to work?
08:54 bshum No.
08:54 bshum It's generating an error on the [someone] part.
08:54 kmlussier Oh well.
08:55 kmlussier @tea afterl
08:55 * pinesol_green brews and pours a pot of Dong Ding Oolong, and sends it sliding down the bar to afterl (http://ratetea.com/tea/tradi​tion/dong-ding-oolong/4660/)
08:55 bshum eeevil: Thanks for the offer!  I think what's happening is that the 720 is being added via marcxml but using similar browse_xpath as the other author entries which use the mods32 definitions.  I'll have to poke at it some more to see what's where and what changed.
08:56 bshum eeevil: In our production environment, it doesn't complain, but I don't know if it's just been producing nonsense anyways :)
08:56 eeevil bshum: gotcha... based on that, all I may need is the index def
08:59 bshum @swill [someone]
08:59 * pinesol_green grabs a forty of Country Club and sends it sliding down the bar to berick_
08:59 bshum kmlussier: There you go :)
09:00 kmlussier bshum++
09:00 bshum @quote [someone]
09:00 pinesol_green bshum: Fire BAD! Reading GOOD!
09:00 bshum Heh
09:00 bshum Okay, so not that.
09:01 bshum eeevil: http://pastie.org/8975924 -- that's the current definition as it exists in our production system
09:02 bshum So basically I think it's looking for the 720 subfield a
09:02 bshum I think maybe we need to rethink how it gets that information though
09:02 bshum I might poke at it some more when I get to the office.
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09:10 _bott_ Can I get an opinion, bug or not bug?
09:10 bshum @coffee kmlussier
09:10 * pinesol_green brews and pours a cup of Ethiopia Sidamo Special Prep, and sends it sliding down the bar to kmlussier
09:10 bshum Success :)
09:11 bshum Okay, now I can go to work.
09:11 _bott_ Numeric search by barcode.  If you Show more Details, you do not get copy listings.  Would others expect to?
09:11 _bott_ super easy to flesh acp and get them
09:15 eeevil bshum: you're correct about the incorrect browse_xpath ;)
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09:28 dbwells _bott_: looks like a bug to me
09:30 _bott_ I believe the MARC expert search has the same issue.  I'll toss a bug out there noting both and roll up a patch.
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09:36 tsbere fun with SIPServer: https://bugs.launchpad.net/sipserver/+bug/1298985 <_<
09:36 pinesol_green Launchpad bug 1298985 in SIPServer "Invalid Summary Type crashes SIPServer" (affected: 1, heat: 6) [Undecided,New]
09:38 dbwells bhsum: It looks like your author|uncontrolled is going to overlap with author|other.  If you are okay with that, I'd suggest either removing the browse_xpath (and falling back to the main xpath), or setting browse_field to false (to simply disable browse for that def).
09:39 kmlussier @coffee [someone]
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09:39 * pinesol_green brews and pours a cup of Espresso Nuevo, and sends it sliding down the bar to bradl
09:39 kmlussier Excellent! Thank you bshum!
09:46 Dyrcona @swill
09:46 * pinesol_green grabs a bottle of Smirnoff Ice Pineapple and sends it sliding down the bar to Dyrcona
09:46 Dyrcona @developer
09:46 pinesol_green Dyrcona: Communication:14, BigPicture:10, DetailOriented:13, KungFu:16, GetsStuffDone:17, FlakeFactor:17, JavaAvoidance:16
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09:58 dbwells bshum: I just force pushed an update to the 800t branch.  It isn't related to the problem you were having, but to prevent duplicates in the search index.
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10:09 jl- is there a list of academic libraries using eg?
10:10 jl- I know villanova is one of them, I'm sure there are many others
10:11 kmlussier jl-: It isn't separated out by library type, but you could look at the list here: http://wiki.evergreen-ils.org/d​oku.php?id=evergreen_libraries
10:12 kmlussier jl-: Also, I don't think villanova is on Evergreen.
10:12 jl- kmlussier: last time I talked to damien katz they still were
10:12 jl- thanks for the link tho
10:14 kmlussier Off the top of my head, I can think of Conifer (a consortium of academics), Mohawk College, Calvin College. C/W MARS and NOBLE are two multi-type consortia in Massachusetts that include academics.
10:15 jl- trying to find conifer on the list
10:15 kmlussier It's in Canada.
10:16 jl- ah
10:17 jl- any other, big name US academic libraries? it will help my case
10:19 kmlussier jl-: I don't know of anyone beyond who is on that list. But I'm still skeptical of Villanova being an Evergreen library. I know they use VuFind for a discovery layer.
10:20 jl- yes they do
10:20 jl- as do we for 1/5
10:20 bshum jl-: kmlussier: To my recollection from Damien a few years ago, he had rolled up an Evergreen system to toy with the Vufind connectors, but I didn't think they were actively using it.
10:20 bshum If they are using it, they're quiet about it.
10:21 * bshum pokes
10:21 jl- eg is one of the supported drivers for vufind as far as I remember they are using eg as the ils driver but I might be wrong
10:21 Dyrcona You also can't tell what is running behind their VuFind.
10:22 eeevil dbwells: where's your branch?
10:22 eeevil (for 800t)
10:23 bshum I think they're still using Voyager
10:23 bshum http://voyager.villanova.edu/cgi-bin/​Pwebrecon.cgi?DB=local&amp;PAGE=First
10:23 bshum With VuFind on top of it
10:23 bshum But yes, there are VuFind drivers.
10:23 jl- ah
10:23 jl- I stand corrected
10:24 Dyrcona That is what Voyager's OPAC looks like? No wonder they created VuFind.
10:25 jl- indeed
10:29 kmlussier berick: I think dbwells mentioned this yesterday, but we're having trouble logging into the web client using Firefox. I was using Chrome yesterday with no trouble.
10:29 jl- here's one of our voyager instances with vufind on top
10:29 jl- vf-stlib.klnpa.org/vufind/
10:29 jl- http://vf-stlib.klnpa.org/vufind/
10:29 jl- looks so much better
10:30 berick kmlussier: yep, known issue.  will get back to that soon
10:30 jl- http://vf-stlib.klnpa.org/vufind/Search/Results?​lookfor=test&amp;type=AllFields&amp;submit=Find
10:30 kmlussier berick: Thanks!
10:31 * dbs submitted some fixes for the Evergreen driver for VuFind recently, that were accepted.
10:32 dbs jl-: Conifer is Laurentian University, Algoma University, Northern Ontario Medical School, Collège Boréal, and a bunch of smaller libraries.
10:32 jl- dbs: yes I saw your commits tu vufind :)
10:32 jl- I am working on a few things for them right now
10:32 dbs (the Evergreen VuFind driver is a direct-to-the-database thing which makes it brittle but it worked as of a few months ago)
10:33 * dbs guilty of not reading _allllll_ the way back
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10:58 dbwells eeevil: the branch is on the bug (#1259665)
10:58 dbwells eeevil: http://git.evergreen-ils.org/?p=working/E​vergreen.git;a=shortlog;h=refs/heads/user​/dbwells/lp1259665_series_browse_reconfig
10:59 Bmagic Anyone out there familiar with the retrieve_hold_status function? I am trying to deduce the situation that would cause "wrong shelf"
11:01 eeevil dbwells: thanks! was mostly just curious ... looks good upon a quick eyeballing
11:02 dbwells eeevil: cool, thanks for giving it a look
11:04 tsbere Bmagic: "Hold was captured, placed on hold shelf, then someone changed the pickup library"
11:04 Bmagic ah!
11:05 Bmagic tsbere: Thanks!
11:11 jl- any idea why step 11 procudes an empty bibrecords.sql? http://docs.evergreen-ils.org/2.1/html/mig​rating_records_using_migration_tools.html
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11:12 jl- the .bre file is 600mb
11:18 dbs methinks those instructions are no longer used for current versions of evergreen
11:18 dbs And 2.1 is no longer supported
11:21 * Dyrcona thinks there are no good instructions for migrating data into Evergreen. It is a dark art.
11:21 dbs Dyrcona: there is truth in what you say
11:22 dbs But some instructions are less misleading than others
11:22 gmcharlt FWIW, the tools are still in use
11:23 gmcharlt that is, the ones referenced in the 2.1 manual
11:23 * gmcharlt would agree with a statement that techniques for migrating data to Evergreen are mostly undocumented
11:24 kmlussier dbs: Didn't you write up some migration documentation for Evergreen in Action?
11:25 yboston kmlussier: I have been using dbs instructions for less than 1k records so far with success
11:26 jl- I've had mild success with the concerto sql loader (50k records) and the staging table (http://docs.evergreen-ils.org/dev/_migr​ating_your_bibliographic_records.html) however, for the records past that number both scripts went into a crazy loop, never stopping until disk space (>100GB) was full
11:26 jl- it might be my records fault tho but I did clean them
11:27 jl- Im not sure what technique to stick with
11:27 jboyer-isl This is semi-recent, though not personally tested: http://docs.evergreen-ils.org/2.5/_mig​rating_your_bibliographic_records.html
11:28 jboyer-isl That section covers more than just records.
11:28 jl- http://docs.evergreen-ils.org/2.5/_mig​rating_your_bibliographic_records.html
11:28 jl- sry
11:28 jboyer-isl Oh, hey, you apparently were looking at a recent version of that. Oops. :(
11:29 jl- yes
11:29 yboston that link from jboyer-isl is the dbs written code that originally appeared in "evergreen in action" that dbs wrote
11:29 yboston the one I have been using this month for ebook records without items
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11:31 Dyrcona I have done, or assisted with, four migrations, and I usually take each one as a unique case, particularly since I've never gotten records from the same source ILS.
11:33 jl- dbs: I changed the function to returns VOID instead of NULL because of an error I got
11:33 jl- sorry gotta go to lunch
11:33 jl- bbl
11:38 yboston dbs: I am going to change that NULL to VOID in the stored procedure code, I have been meaning to do that
11:38 yboston (in the docs)
11:39 Dyrcona yboston: You're talking about the staging_importer() function?
11:40 yboston Dyrcona: yes
11:40 Dyrcona yboston: OK. Changing it to void looks right to me.
11:40 yboston Dyrcona: I noticed it a while ago, that it was a tiny mistake
11:41 yboston Dyrcona: meant to ask on IRC to confirm, but realized it was just a tiny mistake
11:41 Dyrcona In theory, it should be harmless, but jl- mentions an error associated with it.
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11:42 yboston Dyrcona: I always got an error
11:42 yboston Dyrcona: until I changed it
11:42 * Dyrcona tries something.
11:47 Dyrcona Pg 9.1 won't let me create a function that returns null.
11:49 yboston Dyrcona: I am about to push the docuemntation chnage, should I not proceed?
11:52 Dyrcona yboston: Go ahead.
12:00 yboston Git question concerning pushing changes to main repo
12:01 yboston I am supposed to have rights to commit changes to /docs
12:01 yboston I am getting errors when pushing
12:01 yboston what sytax should I use to push my one word change? git push origin   ???
12:02 gmcharlt yboston: paste the errors, please
12:02 yboston git push origin
12:02 yboston fatal: Could not read from remote repository.
12:02 yboston Please make sure you have the correct access rights
12:02 yboston and the repository exists.
12:02 yboston LB-ysuarez-iMacIntel:Evergre
12:02 gmcharlt paste your .git/config, then
12:02 yboston [remote "origin"]
12:02 yboston url = git://git.evergreen-ils.org/Evergreen.git
12:02 yboston fetch = +refs/heads/*:refs/remotes/origin/*
12:03 gmcharlt ok
12:03 yboston I think I have to chage the URl to not use hhttp protocol?
12:03 gmcharlt then to be able to push, the url should be git@git.evergreen-ils.org:Evergreen
12:03 gmcharlt you can also add a separate remote that is used just for pushing
12:03 gmcharlt e.g.,
12:03 yboston OK, this is all making sense
12:03 gmcharlt git add remote egpush git@git.evergreen-ils.org:Evergreen
12:04 gmcharlt then
12:04 gmcharlt git push egpush master
12:04 yboston the options make sense, not sure which one I prefer.
12:05 gmcharlt (which assumes that your master branch is up to date, and that the commits that you are pushing are only affecting files under doc/*)
12:05 yboston I understand that with the new remote I will need to use something like: git push egpush
12:05 yboston your assumptions are correct, I made sure of both
12:06 yboston I suspect it is OK to just change the original config "origin" URL, and that nothing bad will happen form then on when I fetch/pull
12:10 yboston I used vim to update the config origin URL
12:10 yboston [remote "origin"]
12:10 yboston url = git@git.evergreen-ils.org:Evergreen
12:10 yboston fetch = +refs/heads/*:refs/remotes/origin/*
12:10 yboston but I got this error
12:10 yboston git push origin
12:10 yboston FATAL: W any Evergreen ysuarez DENIED by fallthru
12:10 yboston (or you mis-spelled the reponame)
12:10 yboston fatal: Could not read from remote repository.
12:10 yboston Please make sure you have the correct access rights
12:10 yboston and the repository exists.
12:16 gmcharlt yboston: does a git fetch origin work without error?
12:16 yboston yes
12:17 gmcharlt could you pastebin the results of git diff --stat origin/master ?
12:17 yboston git diff --stat origin/master
12:17 yboston docs/admin_initial_setup/migrating_your_data.txt | 2 +-
12:17 yboston 1 file changed, 1 insertion(+), 1 deletion(-)
12:18 gmcharlt ah, I see the problem
12:18 gmcharlt one moment
12:18 yboston sub folders in the path under docs?
12:18 gmcharlt no, error in the gitolite config
12:19 gmcharlt ok, please try the push again
12:20 yboston interesting
12:21 gmcharlt interesting could be good or bad... :)
12:21 jcamins gmcharlt: wahanui, is that you?!?
12:21 Dyrcona :)
12:21 gmcharlt jcamins: hey!  I pass the Turing test at least 3/4 of the time!
12:24 Dyrcona yboston: Have you changed your ssh key lately?
12:25 yboston I switch to a new machine, but I was under the impression that the old key came over
12:25 yboston but I was wondering if this was part of the issue
12:25 gmcharlt what error are you getting now?
12:25 yboston I think it owrked?
12:26 yboston *worked
12:26 gmcharlt ah, so it ahs
12:26 kmlussier yboston++
12:26 pinesol_green [evergreen|Yamil Suarez] Documentation: Changed return type of staging_importer() SP - <http://git.evergreen-ils.org/?p=​Evergreen.git;a=commit;h=ab20899>
12:27 yboston thanks gmcharlt, I was terrified that I had made a mistake, though my remote URL was using the wrong protocol
12:28 Dyrcona yboston++
12:28 gmcharlt yboston: not to worry -- you would have to try very hard to do something that tsbere and I couldn't fix
12:28 yboston gmcharlt: BTW I have been watching your Git tutorial video, good job
12:29 gmcharlt how was the recording?
12:29 yboston though not done watching yet. I also watched a 5 hour lynda.com training videeos that was good too
12:29 yboston the audio and video are not perfect, but I had a very clear shot of the screen
12:30 yboston I am watching it without any compression (audio or video), so if I post it to YOutube, etc it might nto be as goos
12:30 yboston *good
12:30 yboston I can prepare a sample on youtoube as a test
12:31 gmcharlt ok
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12:55 tsbere So, does anyone have any thoughts on moving events from the xml file to the database? I have some things I would like to do with event codes at the DB level and would rather not duplicate things too much.
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13:03 jl- yboston: did you use the python script from the link when you migrated?
13:05 kmlussier yboston: I know very little about git, so I may be steering you in the wrong direction, but I've never used those tags when I've pushed backports for documentation. In this case, I would push to rel_2_5.
13:07 kmlussier I answer you here instead of on the mailing list thread because, if I'm wrong, I'm guessing somebody in here will correct me. :)
13:07 eeevil tsbere: it's entirely untested at this point (may not even compile) but, as promised, I started on a branch to teach cstore et al about arrays (entirely optional): working/user/miker/collapsed-context-org
13:08 eeevil tsbere: as for events in the db, that's a broad change ... perhaps outline the effected entry points that'll need a rewrite to use the db version, and the cost of loading that data from the db, and when to do so, etc
13:09 gmcharlt yboston: I've responded at more length in the thread, but the tl;dr version is: what kmlussier said
13:10 tsbere eeevil: I haven't even figured out some of that myself in regards to events.
13:10 kmlussier gmcharlt: Thanks! It's good to see I've been doing it correctly.
13:10 jl- I am ben wiens btw, for those who don't know
13:10 tsbere eeevil: In regards to your branch there, it doesn't compile, looks like undeclared variable issues.
13:11 eeevil tsbere: likely. I won't have time to look anymore today, but feel free to whack it about if you're so inclined
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13:12 Dyrcona jl-: It was nice to put a face with the alias at the conference.
13:13 tsbere eeevil: Huh, just noticed some " error: 'for' loop initial declarations are only allowed in C99 mode" in the mix too. I might take a look, but probably not today.
13:13 jl- Dyrcona: likewise
13:16 Dyrcona tsbere: -std=c99 fixes that. :)
13:28 eeevil tsbere / Dyrcona: meh, I should probably just use c89 for loops instead. LATER! :)
13:39 yboston jl-: no we paid ESI to migrate us back in 2012. I have been using those scripts using pythonn to just move batches of new ebook MARC records
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13:51 dbwells I know bshum was poking it and got derailed, but if anyone can review and commit https://bugs.launchpad.net/evergreen/+bug/1259665 , I'd be very appreciative.  It is the only thing holding up the RC at this point.
13:51 pinesol_green Launchpad bug 1259665 in Evergreen "Series search in 2.5 does not retrieve 800 |t" (affected: 3, heat: 20) [High,Confirmed]
13:52 dbwells It is my understanding the bshum's issues were not related to the minor changes in this branch, but I can't say that 100%.
13:52 bshum dbwells: Correct, my issues seem unrelated.  I did find a few 800t's to test with and they seemed fine on reingest.  But I have to enable the browse stuff fully to check things out.
13:53 bshum Pretty confident we can just merge though :)
13:53 bshum I'll try and do that after a few more meetings end.
13:53 bshum Sorry :\
13:57 Dyrcona @marc 800
13:57 pinesol_green Dyrcona: An author/title series added entry in which the author portion is a personal name. (Repeatable) [a,b,c,d,e,f,g,h,j,k,l,m,n,o,p,q,r,s,t,u,v,4,6,8]
13:57 Dyrcona t is the title?
13:58 Dyrcona yep.
14:16 jl- if I want to commit, does my pub key need to be added to the eg repo? or just to my github acc?
14:16 jl- for a pull request
14:19 Dyrcona jl-: I think someone has talked about making pull requests from github more visible to devs, but the best thing is to have your pub key added to the Evergreen working repo.
14:19 Dyrcona There's an email list for sending your key to.
14:20 Dyrcona http://evergreen-ils.org/do​kuwiki/doku.php?id=dev:git
14:20 Dyrcona For more information.
14:20 jl- thx
14:23 jl- email sent
14:28 jl- Dyrcona: I already have a github account tho, which has my pub key
14:28 Dyrcona jl-: So do just about all of the devs.
14:29 jl- does the commit still go through my github account when I push?
14:29 Dyrcona Not unless you explicitly push to your github account.
14:31 jl- with "through" I mean, it will link your username to your profile
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14:32 Dyrcona Oh. If your email address and/or username are the same, your commits will show up in your github profile if that's what you mean.
14:32 jl- yeah that's what I thought, just wasn't sure
14:33 Dyrcona If you look at my profile, https://github.com/Dyrcona , you'll see Evergreen shows up as a repo to which I have contributed, though I've not cloned it on github.
14:34 jl- yup
14:35 jl- I'll have to wait until someone adds my key
14:39 Dyrcona jl-: What is it you want to commit? You did read on the dev:git page about the signoffs and how things end up in the main repository, yes?
14:42 jl- Dyrcona: yes, it's adding some documentation in /docs/admin for the staff client that I recently found helpful
14:43 Dyrcona OK. You might want to coordinate that with yboston and DIG.
14:43 jl- yeah I'm sure it will get reviewed
14:43 jl- before approval
14:46 Dyrcona Documentation commits usually are easier to get in.
14:46 Dyrcona You might want to make sure about the license of any documentation that you found online, first.
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15:43 kmlussier @swill
15:43 * pinesol_green grabs a forty of Private Stock and sends it sliding down the bar to kmlussier
15:45 kmlussier @bartender
15:45 * pinesol_green fills a pint glass with Samuel Adams Summer Ale, and sends it sliding down the bar to kmlussier (http://beeradvocate.com/beer/profile/35/103/)
15:45 kmlussier Oh, pinesol_green, you know me so well.
15:48 kmlussier @coin
15:48 pinesol_green kmlussier: tails
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16:03 afterl kmlusssier:  are you drinking again?  [grin]
16:05 kmlussier afterl: I'm just getting ready for 5 o'clock! :)
16:05 kmlussier @bartender afterl
16:05 * pinesol_green fills a pint glass with Edison Light Beer, and sends it sliding down the bar to afterl (http://beeradvocate.com/beer/profile/629/1689/)
16:05 kmlussier afterl: There's one for you.
16:07 phasefx @developer
16:07 pinesol_green phasefx: Communication:8, BigPicture:13, DetailOriented:12, KungFu:8, GetsStuffDone:15, FlakeFactor:10, JavaAvoidance:9
16:08 gmcharlt @librarian
16:08 pinesol_green gmcharlt: Management:8, Cataloging:7, Acquisitions:15, Reference:11, Circulation:15, Systems:10, Research:15, Custodial:15
16:09 afterl Sweet.  I was just thinking I could use a light beer with a punny name.  From Massachusetts.
16:10 kmlussier afterl: But the rating is a little low.
16:12 afterl kmlussier:  have you had it?  Just curious.
16:12 jl- I have some Spaten in my fridge for later
16:12 kmlussier afterl: Not that I know of.
16:13 jl- yboston: how big are your batches usually, using the staging importer?
16:14 afterl kmlussier:  now you've got me thinking beer when all that I have is wine.  [sigh]  Thinking of leaving work early for a beer run ....
16:14 kmlussier @wine afterl
16:14 pinesol_green kmlussier: Go away, or I'll replace you with a very small shell script!
16:14 kmlussier I guess we don't have wine here.
16:15 gmcharlt rather definitively, we don't have wine
16:15 afterl gmcharlt:  I can so picture you saying that.
16:15 gmcharlt heh
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16:26 Dyrcona Hey, bartender! Hey, man! Lookee here! Draw one, draw two, draw three, four glasses of beer!
16:26 * Dyrcona channels Floyd Dixon.
16:28 yboston jl-: My biggest batch with that script was like 2200 records without holdings from EBSCO ebooks service via OCLC. It ran fine on my test server, but I had a timeout error when loading them to my production server hosted by ESI
16:28 yboston jl-: which is a few states away from here, so there shoudl have been latency issues
16:29 yboston jl-: BTW< did we meet at the conference?
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16:52 bshum Calling 0877
16:55 bshum Ack, rebase on other pushed commits.
16:55 * bshum does the dance
16:55 bshum And we're good
16:56 yboston mceraso++ for testing OSRF
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16:56 kmlussier mceraso++
16:57 bshum mceraso++
16:58 pinesol_green [evergreen|Dan Wells] LP#1259665 Split series browse config from search - <http://git.evergreen-ils.org/?p=​Evergreen.git;a=commit;h=ca359de>
16:58 pinesol_green [evergreen|Ben Shum] LP#1259665 Stamping upgrade for 800t search and facets - <http://git.evergreen-ils.org/?p=​Evergreen.git;a=commit;h=f92e1ff>
16:59 jl- yboston: yes we met, I'm ben wiens
16:59 jl- I think alex zalar introduced us
16:59 yboston yes, from Pennsylvania?
16:59 jl- yup
16:59 bshum Another Ben, eh?
16:59 bshum :)
17:00 jl- indeed
17:00 jl- hehe
17:01 jl- anyone in here that can add my ssh key to the git repo?
17:01 bshum There's a few folks.  You sent something to the git-admin email right?
17:01 * bshum is not one of them
17:01 yboston jl-: it start with sending an email to that email address
17:02 jl- gitadmin@evergreen-ils.org
17:02 jl- yup
17:02 jl- ok
17:02 bshum I'm sure they'll respond soon.
17:02 jl- great
17:02 bshum That said, today is Friday, hmm
17:02 bshum :P
17:03 jl- true ^^
17:03 gmcharlt I have a feeling that if you write within the next half hour
17:03 gmcharlt that gitadmin might just respond
17:03 gmcharlt a pretty strong feeling, in fact ;)
17:03 jl- I sent it at 2:24
17:03 jl- :P
17:04 bshum We'll just blame it on the time zone.  gmcharlt won't see it for another 20 minutes then.
17:04 bshum (was kidding)
17:04 gmcharlt ah
17:04 gmcharlt actually ... I don't see it
17:04 gmcharlt could you resend?
17:05 jl- gmcharlt: sure
17:06 gmcharlt jl-: there we go
17:06 gmcharlt preferred username?
17:07 jl- won't it use my github account? https://github.com/bwiens/ user: Benjamin Wiens email: benjamin.wiens@gmail.com
17:07 jl- I sent it also from ship.edu but the gmail should be better
17:08 gmcharlt there's no inherent connectinon between github and the name that our setup uses for branches
17:08 gmcharlt but I gather bwiens is OK?
17:08 jl- sure
17:10 jl- gmcharlt: will the commit be linked to my github profile?
17:10 jl- if it gets approved
17:12 gmcharlt I believe github will try to match up commits via email address
17:12 jl- great
17:34 eeevil tsbere: fwiw, the branch now compiles ... still untested. also cleaned up two remaining fixable warnings (one remains, but it is known, harmless, and unfixable without deeper surgery)
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18:22 jl- gmcharlt: I'm getting the same error yboston had earlier
18:22 jl- FATAL: W any Evergreen bwiens DENIED by fallthru
18:22 jl- (or you mis-spelled the reponame)
18:22 jl- fatal: The remote end hung up unexpectedly
18:22 jl- root@debian:/home/ben/Desktop/eg​reen/Evergreen/docs/admin# git diff --stat origin/master
18:22 jl- docs/admin/staff_client-password-reset.txt |   16 ++++++++++++++++
18:22 jl- 1 file changed, 16 insertions(+)
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20:01 dbs jl-: the pubkey that you sent matches what we have in the keydir for "bwiens". are you trying to push to the working/Evergreen.git repository and to a /user/bwiens/branch-name branch?
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