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Time Nick Message
03:23 bshum kmlussier++ # more plugins!
04:56 pinesol_green Incoming from qatests: Test Success - http://testing.evergreen-ils.org/~live/test.html <http://testing.evergreen-ils.org/~live/test.html>
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10:18 jl- morning
10:27 jl- dbs ping
12:08 dbs jl-: don't just ping me, paste your steps from "git clone" through "git push" into a pastebin and share it here / send it to the gitadmin email address so that you can have a broader audience of helpers.
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15:13 jl- yboston: I'm getting the same error after a push that you had yesterday, any idea what made it work for you?
15:13 jl- FATAL: W any Evergreen bwiens DENIED by fallthru
15:13 jl- (or you mis-spelled the reponame)
15:14 yboston funny, I am trying to make some changes to the docs through git right now
15:14 yboston yesterday Galen did something with the Git config, and it started working
15:14 jl- i it working for you now?
15:14 yboston though I had a small errror in my Git config
15:15 jl- can you cat your .git/config
15:15 yboston I had originally cloned my repo as...
15:15 yboston git clone http://git.evergreen...
15:15 yboston and it should have been...
15:15 yboston git clone git@git.ev
15:15 yboston Do you remember how you cloned your repo?
15:16 jl- I think with http
15:16 yboston let me paste my config
15:17 jl- ok
15:17 yboston [remote "origin"]
15:17 yboston url = git@git.evergreen-ils.org:Evergreen
15:18 yboston fetch = +refs/heads/*:refs/remotes/origin/*
15:18 yboston [branch "master"]
15:18 yboston remote = origin
15:18 yboston merge = refs/heads/master
15:18 yboston [remote "working"]
15:18 yboston url = git://git.evergreen-ils.org/working/Evergreen.git
15:18 yboston fetch = +refs/heads/*:refs/remotes/working/*
15:18 yboston pushurl = git@git.evergreen-ils.org:working/Evergreen.git
15:18 yboston for the record, I have my set up so I can push to most fo the working repo...
15:18 yboston but I also can push to anything under the main repo's "docs" directory so I can update the documentation
15:19 jl- yes that's what I'm trying let's see
15:19 yboston you are pushing to the docs in the main repo?
15:23 jl- yes
15:23 jl- git push origin master
15:23 jl- is that what you are doing for the docs?
15:24 yboston I beleive so, but to be clear, I was given special permission from my work with DIG to be able to push tot he main repo's "docs" direcotry
15:24 jl- ah
15:24 jl- that is probably it then
15:24 yboston you may not have that permission, thouhg you have permison to add to working repo
15:24 jl- gotcha
15:24 yboston I made a note to reach out to you on monday to wee where you wanted to place your new docuemntationw ithin the offical docs
15:25 yboston then you suddenly started asking me questios
15:25 yboston *questions
15:25 jl- funny :)
15:25 yboston yes
15:26 yboston BTW< it would be nice to have your help with documentation, even if it is just a little bit of help
15:26 jl- absolutely, I'd be happy to help
15:26 jl- here's what I added: http://git.evergreen-ils.org/?p=working/Evergreen.​git;a=blob;f=docs/admin/staff_client-reset_lost_pa​ssword.txt;h=c51b0522ea265fd39b88e5958d17c8b83e113​79f;hb=5234b37d5871162c85de40e9ba6c6062b51f123c
15:26 yboston yes, I just looked it over like 20 minutes ago
15:27 yboston two things
15:27 jl- my only concern is, I'd like it to get linked to my github
15:27 jl- I see other people commit and they are linked (galen said something about the email being used as the identifier)
15:27 yboston 1) I think, but I am not sure, did you put that change in the "working repo" master branch?
15:27 yboston if so, I suggest that next time you make a "topic" branch with your changes
15:28 yboston 2) have you thought where you would like us to place that information in the offical docs? like what chapter / page? it is OK if you have not decide yet
15:28 jl- it's I think it's in user/bwiens/working_branch
15:28 jl- topic branch makes sense
15:29 jl- good idea, I'll have to have a close look at the official docs to see where it makes the most sense
15:30 yboston I see it now that you made a "topic branch" under your username. Though I would choose a more descriptive branch name instead of :working_branch" next time
15:30 jl- yes I can call it documentation or something
15:30 yboston also, I have not explored how to have github notice your changes to the main or working repo
15:31 yboston for the record, in case you end up doing more documentation fizes/update, I would suggest your brnach names give a little hint of the type of docs like "documentation_change_password"
15:32 yboston in case you end up doing a lot of brnaches, but if you only do a few, don't worry too much about the name
15:33 jl- sounds good
15:33 yboston BTW< it would be nice to know how to make github track my commits to the EG repo's, I will pay attention how others make it work. THough I may need to be more careful with the email addresses I use when committing
15:33 jl- I'm hoping that as I am migrating data I will find more useful changes
15:34 jl- yes gmcharlt mentioned that the email is the identifier for that
15:34 jl- which in my case, is the same, not sure when/how it will actually be linked
15:40 dbs yboston: is jl- part of DIG and therefore should be part of the docwriters group for commit purposes?
15:41 dbs jl-: you need to "git commit -s" in the future; your Author line is preserved but generally we also want the "-s" for the Signed-off-by line as well
15:42 yboston most DIG members acknowlege that "DIG membership" is very casual. Sometimes it is argued that just beng on our mailing list is good enough.
15:43 yboston dbs: most DIG members acknowlege that "DIG membership" is very casual. Sometimes it is argued that just beng on our mailing list is good enough.
15:43 dbs yboston: I mean for purposes of pushing to the master repo. I'd suggest giving jl- a chance to work through a few branches before we grant commit access
15:44 yboston dbs: jl- is very new to EG, but already he has impressed me by following intrutiosn and putting together asciidoc docuemtnation on the working repo. that is an impressive start
15:44 dbs basically the gitadmins will grant that direct commit access once DIG says "do it"
15:45 yboston yes, I was going to approach him later this week to ask him, but I did not want to sacre him off :)
15:45 yboston *scare
15:45 dbs but we don't want git learning to occur on the master repo; stick with working for a few rounds
15:45 yboston that is what I was thinking
15:46 jl- that's fine, thanks for approaching me I like being involved
15:46 dbs jl-++
15:47 yboston dbs: I also was thinking something reated last week, I came up with a very loose process to anounce on the DIG mailing list when we wabt to publicly ask someone to get docuemntation privileges to the main repo
15:47 yboston dbs: and it was that the person needs to have been succesful in pushing topic branches to working first
15:49 yboston dbs: I mean that I had already come up with a process to anounce on the DIG list to give someone Git priveleges, but now I want to add that they need to have docuemented expirince with the workign repo
15:49 yboston dbs: seeign jl-'s work reminded me of how I want things to progress int he future
15:56 dbs yboston++
16:14 bshum Regarding github linking of activities, I think that once commits are added to the main master branch or such, it'll begin to show up for activity with the mirrored Evergreen master repo.  The working branches are not tracked in the same way initially.
16:17 bshum jl-: I might recommend setting up your git name / email.  This is described on the dev:git page -- http://wiki.evergreen-ils.org/doku.php?id=de​v:git#quick_start_for_evergreen_contributors
16:18 bshum There's lot of good information on that page for getting started with git usage and pushing branches too.
16:18 * bshum disappears back into the mists
16:20 jl- bshum: I think the lack of signoff
16:20 jl- resulted in it
16:20 jl- I'm going to delete the branch, create a topic branch and commit with a signoff
16:21 jl- and it makes sense that the working branches might not be tracked
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17:14 jl- done, bbl
17:24 yboston I want to start a draft wiki page that lists info on pinesol_green. Is this the original name of this bot? I am trying to google information on it
17:26 jcamins yboston: pinesol_green is a supybot.
17:28 yboston jcamins: thanks
17:32 jl- yboston btw, I think if you add yamil@yamil.com to your emails on github, it will link the master commits
17:32 yboston jl-: that is what I was thinking, though I rather have two seperate emails registered with github, but I doubt I can have that
17:32 yboston jl-: thanks
17:32 jcamins yboston: you got a domain with just one name? Lucky.
17:33 jcamins yboston: and you can have multiple.
17:33 yboston jcamins: the advantages of having a pretty unqiue name
17:33 yboston to quote arrested development: "there are dozens of us"
17:33 jl- hehe
17:34 jcamins Hehe.
17:34 yboston seriously, in latin america there are hundreds.
17:38 yboston jl-: thanks for the tip about multiple email. I just updted my account withthe second address
17:43 jl- no problem, I was curious about this myself :)
17:46 yboston @help
17:46 pinesol_green yboston: (help [<plugin>] [<command>]) -- This command gives a useful description of what <command> does. <plugin> is only necessary if the command is in more than one plugin.
17:46 yboston @help marc
17:46 pinesol_green yboston: (marc look up field or field/subfield combo in MARC docs) -- eg. @marc 245 or @marc 245 a
17:46 yboston @list
17:46 pinesol_green yboston: Admin, Anagram, Assorted2, Blame, Bugtracker, Channel, ChannelLogger, Config, Dunno, Encyclopedia, Games, Git, Herald, Insult, Karma, Later, LoveHate, MARC, Math, MeetBot, Misc, Note, Owner, Praise, Quote, RSS, Reply, Seen, Status, Time, Todo, Twitter, User, and Weather
17:52 bshum @list Assorted2
17:52 pinesol_green bshum: bartender, coffee, dessert, developer, dnd, gamma, librarian, someone, sortinghat, swill, tea, and who
17:52 yboston @marc 856
17:52 pinesol_green yboston: The information needed to locate and access an electronic resource. The field may be used in a bibliographic record for a resource when that resource or a subset of it is available electronically. In addition, it may be used to locate and access an electronic version of a non-electronic resource described in the bibliographic record or a related electronic resource. (Repeatable) (1 more message)
17:52 bshum @more
17:52 pinesol_green bshum: Error: You haven't asked me a command; perhaps you want to see someone else's more.  To do so, call this command with that person's nick.
17:52 bshum @more yboston
17:52 pinesol_green bshum: [a,b,c,d,f,h,i,j,k,l,m,n,o,p,​q,r,s,t,u,v,w,x,y,z,2,3,6,8]
17:53 bshum yboston: So when the command ends with (1 more message) or however many messages, just go for @more to see the remainder of the message.
17:53 * yboston is creating a wiki page about pinesol_green for others to controbute too
17:53 yboston *to
17:53 yboston thanks
17:58 yboston Here is the wiki page that I started. Feel free to add to it. I will post it to the dev list for others to make changes too
17:58 yboston http://wiki.evergreen-ils.org/doku.p​hp?id=community:using-pinesol_green
18:25 gsams would someone be willing to hook me up with an account for the wiki?
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18:44 kmlussier @dessert bshum
18:44 * pinesol_green grabs a big dish of Banana Split and sends it sliding down the dessert bar to bshum
18:44 kmlussier :D
18:48 kmlussier @later tell bshum I have a couple more desserts to add when you have a chance.
18:48 pinesol_green kmlussier: The operation succeeded.
18:53 bshum kmlussier: Okay, just let me know later.
18:53 bshum kmlussier: I'd like to try modifying it someday to use a database or similar so that people can add their own desserts.  Someday.
18:53 kmlussier That could be interesting.
19:00 jl- http://chapul.com/ an energy bar with cricket flour
19:01 bshum @later tell gsams I sent you an email with wiki account.
19:01 pinesol_green bshum: The operation succeeded.
19:17 gsams bshum: thanks!
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23:23 csharp @sortinghat
23:23 pinesol_green Hmm... csharp... Let me see now... HUFFLEPUFF!
23:24 csharp @coffee [someone]
23:24 * pinesol_green brews and pours a cup of Panama Esmeralda Especial, and sends it sliding down the bar to hopkinsju

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