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06:26 _nt dear colleagues, I am having problem seeing contents in the reports (in 2.1 series).
06:26 _nt I am following the 2.1 documentation to create a sample report, but the final result does not include any data
06:31 _nt could you tell me how I could check on the server that everything is running smoothly?
06:44 paxed perhaps check the error_code and error_text in reporter.schedule table ...
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08:43 jcamins eeevil: out of curiosity, why did you decide to write QueryParser from scratch rather than use something like yacc/bison?
08:55 eeevil jcamins: a few reasons, all admittedly subjective. it started simpler than the cost of learning and maintaining warranted; configuration per driver seemed (still seems, to me) more complicated (though that is probably related to my view on (1)) especially for dynamic configuration; the parse tree you get back is harder to work with (again, IMO); and I couldn't figure out how to do some of the stuff I wanted.  FWIW, I started with Parse::RecDescent
08:56 eeevil learning and maintaining a new grammar format, I mean. and I mean that in the context of the community as a whole, not just for one person
08:57 jcamins That makes sense. I find I need a queryparser for Javascript, and if I can work out how bison works I'll probably use the JS version of it, but I'm not 100% sure yet.
08:57 eeevil (IOW, I felt a naive pac-man parser matched our collective skills more broadly)
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08:59 eeevil would the abstract-query data structure work for your JS needs? say, a web service that didn't actually query anything, just used the appropriate config and returned a JSON blob?
09:00 jcamins Actually, what I need is a canonical string representation that I can use as a key for saving results.
09:00 eeevil FWIW, I have aspirations toward pushing the Evergreen OPAC to use that for form filling
09:00 jcamins I'm writing a discovery layer that uses node.js.
09:00 jcamins Well, sort-of-discovery layer.
09:00 eeevil oh, well, that should exist now in master ... there's a cannonicalizer
09:00 eeevil ah! cool
09:01 jcamins Yeah, I'm pretty much just copying what QP does.
09:01 jcamins Except if I can use someone else's library for writing the actual parser, I'd like to do so.
09:03 eeevil understood.  if you can figure out the more complicated bits (like {}-based qual elevation, and dynamic token config) I would gladly steal it for the perl version! :)
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09:15 kmlussier phasefx: I asked Dyrcona to load the code from https://bugs.launchpad.net/evergreen/+bug/1053630 on his server a few weeks ago. I'm not seeing a difference in holdings maintenance. What should I be seeing?
09:15 pinesol_green Launchpad bug 1053630 in Evergreen "Show Libraries with Items button gone in 2.2" (affected: 3, heat: 18) [Wishlist,Confirmed]
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09:32 paxed acq-style-cancelled-delayted.txt    ... delay_t_ed?
09:34 eeevil kmlussier: I'm not seeing any new code there, just a pointer to where the work likely needs to happen...
09:34 eeevil unless I'm misunderstanding what phasefx was saying
09:37 kmlussier eeevil: Ah, okay. I must have misunderstood then.
09:59 pastebot "paxed" at 204.193.129.146 pasted "get_marcfield_contents.sql" (22 lines) at http://paste.evergreen-ils.org/23
09:59 paxed a bit of sql help? i'm using the above to get marc field contents - how would i get that to also return the recid?
10:04 senator paxed: so you want two result columns from your function? i think you want to create a type, e.g. my_type, and declare your function to return setof my_type
10:04 eeevil paxed: replace "RETURN QUERY (SELECT extract_marc_field_set('biblio.record_entry', recid, q, ''));" with "RETURN QUERY (SELECT recid, * FROM extract_marc_field_set('biblio.record_entry', recid, q, '')x);" I think
10:04 senator then adjust the query after 'return query' to get two columns, of course
10:05 eeevil (and what senator said, re return type)
10:05 eeevil you can say RETURNS TABLE(record BIGINT, fieldset TEXT)
10:06 eeevil which creates the type behind the scenes for you
10:06 paxed ok. the returns table() i knew how to do, but the return query ... stuff ... well, i tried googling it too, and just couldn't make it work. :)
10:07 pinesol_green [evergreen|Jason Stephenson] Fix typo in release notes file name for acq-style-cancelled-delayed. - <http://git.evergreen-ils.org/?p=​Evergreen.git;a=commit;h=3c6a6d4>
10:07 eeevil well, there's probably no need to RETURN QUERY. just generate a result record and return them ... what's the ultimate goal?
10:08 eeevil or, purpose, I guess
10:08 paxed just getting non-normalized list of marc field contents, so i can throw the output files at perl to mangle.
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10:14 kmlussier Meeting date poll for August developers meeting http://www.doodle.com/99x2de3ssrdwhv2w
10:15 paxed senator, eeevil: thanks, it works.
10:17 pinesol_green [evergreen|Galen Charlton] LP#1131889: sort TPac copy list by normalized call number - <http://git.evergreen-ils.org/?p=​Evergreen.git;a=commit;h=f839110>
10:22 phasefx kmlussier: eeevil had the right of it, re: holdings maintenance
10:22 kmlussier phasefx: Thanks! After re-reading it, it all seemed very clear to me. Oh well.
10:22 kmlussier Was hoping to scratch an item off our development list.
10:23 pinesol_green [evergreen|Bill Erickson] LP 1084732 TPAC copy location selector - <http://git.evergreen-ils.org/?p=​Evergreen.git;a=commit;h=6c0e430>
10:29 pinesol_green [evergreen|Pasi Kallinen] Fix LP#1160770 by marking default toolbar names as translatable. - <http://git.evergreen-ils.org/?p=​Evergreen.git;a=commit;h=e788d63>
10:33 pinesol_green [evergreen|Chris Sharp] LP1208572 - Fixes for reporter.classic_item_list - <http://git.evergreen-ils.org/?p=​Evergreen.git;a=commit;h=6144a01>
10:36 bshum berick: Out of curiosity, why only prefix and not suffix for https://bugs.launchpad.net/evergreen/+bug/1209291?
10:36 pinesol_green Launchpad bug 1209291 in Evergreen "Vandelay item import support for some default copy values." (affected: 1, heat: 6) [Wishlist,New]
10:37 bshum Or basically it's just something to add stand-in defaults and it's most likely prefix is for that in practice.
10:37 bshum (sorry, had to roll that around in my head for a few moments longer after)
10:38 berick bshum: right, it's not a reall call number prefix/suffix, it's just a tag on the front of the value to help differentiate/isolate those temporary values
10:38 berick same as ACQ
10:38 berick presumably a cataloger will replace the value as soon as a real value is available
10:41 bshum Cool deal.  Thanks berick.
10:42 kmlussier bshum: The use case behind it is that you might have libraries that want to upload order records, but don't want to use the full acq module.
10:49 bshum Calling 0819
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10:55 pinesol_green [evergreen|Jason Etheridge] LP#1150939 fix dewey sort - <http://git.evergreen-ils.org/?p=​Evergreen.git;a=commit;h=48ab13c>
10:55 pinesol_green [evergreen|Ben Shum] Stamping upgrade script for dewey sort fix - <http://git.evergreen-ils.org/?p=​Evergreen.git;a=commit;h=f46f187>
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11:21 DPearl Is Evergreen supported under debian 7 (wheezy)?  I'm trying the install and got a snag with Open-ILS/src/extras/Makefile.install
11:22 mrpeters DPearl i was thinking master had support, but maybe not
11:22 mrpeters debian-wheezy after Makefile.install
11:22 berick DPearl: it will be when/if bug #1190279 is merged
11:22 pinesol_green Launchpad bug 1190279 in Evergreen "Modularize Makefile.install" (affected: 3, heat: 16) [Wishlist,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1190279
11:22 * berick realizes there's no pullreq on there, adds one
11:23 DPearl Thanks mrpeters and berick.
11:23 kivilahtio Do you have any experience about changing the hostname and domain, then suffering because ejabberd doesn't work?
11:24 kivilahtio I am having such experiences
11:24 mrpeters did you update the config / hosts files ?
11:24 csharp berick++ # fixing it where I couldn't ;-)
11:24 kivilahtio ejabberd.cfg has no mention about hostname
11:24 mrpeters oh, it should
11:24 mrpeters you should have a private.hostname and public.hostname in there
11:25 kivilahtio mrpeters: yes I do, and I havent touched them
11:25 mrpeters but you say your domain changed...
11:26 kivilahtio mrpeters: just changed the /etc/hosts from "127.0.0.1 localhost" to "127.0.0.1 egdev.vhost.oplib EgDev" where "cat /etc/hostname" has always been EgDev
11:26 bshum Yeah, every time I've changed the hostname of a server, ejabberd becomes very unhappy with me.
11:27 kivilahtio bshum: mrpeters: I migrated some virtual hosts and fixed ejabberd by purging and reinstalling, but this time it didnt help :D
11:27 csharp kivilahtio: add a localhost entry back?  127.0.0.3?
11:28 kivilahtio ok I'll do a proper pastebin
11:28 kivilahtio ejabberd tutorial says I need to convert my database, but I can't even start my ejabberdctl to do it
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11:34 dbs berick: I hope to give "Modularize Makefile.install" a shot with Fedora today
11:34 * csharp is setting up a test vm now to test 12.04
11:38 kivilahtio http://pastebin.com/D2m4yCbU
11:38 kivilahtio Changing hosts directive broke my ejabberd
11:39 kivilahtio quite frankly maybe I am doing something incredibly stupid
11:40 kivilahtio the reason for changing the hosts-file was to identify the virtual guest as egdev.vhost.oplib for Munin.
11:40 csharp {error,duplicate_name}}
11:40 kivilahtio csharp yes
11:41 kivilahtio I think it might somehow mix this new hostname with the old EgDev
11:41 csharp kivilahtio: can you pastebin your ejabberd.cfg? (making sure to cleanse of anything private)
11:42 berick dbs, csharp thanks!
11:43 kivilahtio csharp: I have the stock ejabberd.cfg with the exact modifications from the OpenSRF installation instruction
11:43 kivilahtio csharp: are you sure you want to see it?
11:49 csharp kivilahtio: so the hosts line is {hosts, ["localhost", "private.localhost", "public.localhost"]}. ?
11:49 kivilahtio yes
11:50 kivilahtio csharp: yes
11:50 csharp hmm
11:52 kivilahtio csharp: I think I had a running ejabberd instance on the background even if I apt-get purged the ejabberd
11:53 kivilahtio now I actualyl got a ejabberd.log which says I need to change the ejabebrd nodename
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11:53 kivilahtio but the available help is sketchy at best, was just hoping if you had expereince in changing the nodename
11:54 csharp I've never done it - I was just trying to ensure the config matched
11:55 kivilahtio So ejabberd gets out of somewhere this string ejabberd@egdev, and I think I should change this to ejabberd@egdev.vhost.oplib
11:55 kivilahtio csharp: Ok, well thanks for help anyway!
11:55 csharp or you could try changing EgDev to egdev in the hosts file?
11:55 kivilahtio csharp: Ok I'll keep trying
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12:08 pinesol_green [evergreen|Bill Ott] Expose conjoined bibs in TPAC - <http://git.evergreen-ils.org/?p=​Evergreen.git;a=commit;h=8c896e9>
12:08 pinesol_green [evergreen|Dan Scott] Whitespace and timelog entries - <http://git.evergreen-ils.org/?p=​Evergreen.git;a=commit;h=30b75ce>
12:08 pinesol_green [evergreen|Dan Scott] Conjoined items / foreign items display in TPAC - <http://git.evergreen-ils.org/?p=​Evergreen.git;a=commit;h=b77db8b>
12:08 pinesol_green [evergreen|Dan Scott] Improved copy table CSS/markup for conjoined bibs - <http://git.evergreen-ils.org/?p=​Evergreen.git;a=commit;h=4a171d1>
12:11 kivilahtio Ok I resolved the issue. I had ejabberd running in the background I think while I purged it (maybe?). Anyway after numerous purge-install cycles I got ejabberd working. Also found a blast from the past!
12:11 kivilahtio http://support.esilibrary.com/​index.php?pg=kb.page&amp;id=21
12:12 csharp kivilahtio: I was wondering if there might be some stale process running somewhere
12:12 phasefx conjoined_items++
12:12 paxed dbs++
12:14 bshum _bott_++ dbs++
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12:22 pinesol_green [evergreen|Jason Stephenson] Fix Lp bug 965656 WRT back dated checkins with fines. - <http://git.evergreen-ils.org/?p=​Evergreen.git;a=commit;h=59dadd1>
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12:25 dbs bshum++ # thanks, working up another commit to add the conjoined bib schema.org structured data onto user/dbs/schema_holdings_rdfa_lite now that conjoined bibs are in :)
12:26 dbs Fresh F19 minimal install has been VM'ed
12:28 kmlussier eeevil++ # bug 1214464
12:28 pinesol_green Launchpad bug 1214464 in Evergreen "Bi-directional authority enhanced bib browse" (affected: 1, heat: 6) [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1214464
12:29 eeevil kmlussier: well... there's a squashing-related bug to fix. removing pullrequest
12:29 eeevil kmlussier: it'll be back soon
12:38 mrpeters does anyone have documentation for the "Age Overdues to Lost" feature?   I can't seem to find any...
12:40 bshum mrpeters: I don't think there was ever any official documentation created for that.
12:40 bshum It was back in those early 1.6 days.
12:40 kmlussier I'm testing available copy hold ratios in circ policies today. Working much better now that bug 1103706 has been fixed, but I'm confused by the message I received when I try renewing an item in the public catalog.
12:40 pinesol_green Launchpad bug 1103706 in Evergreen "Hold ratios in circ policies cause errors when trying to renew items" (affected: 2, heat: 16) [Medium,Fix committed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1103706
12:41 kmlussier The message says failed to renew 1 item and shows "config.circ_matrix_test.a​vailable_copy_hold_ratio" below the title I tried to remove.
12:41 kmlussier But we have http://pastebin.com/A4YdZkSs in hold_error_messages.tt2
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12:41 kmlussier I would expect the error message to say "The available item-to-hold ratio is too low."
12:42 mrpeters shocking
12:43 kmlussier Sorry, typo. I meant to say that ""config.circ_matrix_test.a​vailable_copy_hold_ratio"" displayed below the title I tried to renew.
12:44 * dbs scratches head at MARC::File::XML, MARC::Record, MARC::Charset and other packaged Perl modules getting installed on Fedora. Hrm.
12:46 kmlussier Wait, that's a file for hold error messages. This should be a message for renewal failures. I'll keep digging.
12:46 pinesol_green [evergreen|Pasi Kallinen] Read the zip code lookup file in UTF8 mode. - <http://git.evergreen-ils.org/?p=​Evergreen.git;a=commit;h=68f2881>
12:46 paxed yay!
12:49 dbs okay, I'll have some fixes shortly
12:51 * bshum is off to find some lunch and will leave master alone for a bit.
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12:59 paxed @marc 028q
12:59 pinesol_green paxed: unknown tag 028q
12:59 paxed @marc 028
12:59 pinesol_green paxed: The formatted number used for sound recordings, printed music, and videorecordings. Publisher's numbers that are given in an unformatted form are recorded in field 500 (General Note). A print constant identifying the kind of publisher number may be generated based on the value in the first indicator position. (Repeatable) [a,b,6,8]
13:00 paxed missing 028q
13:02 paxed kivilahtio: onkohan konversiossa virhe. 028d-kenttää ei ole formaatin mukaan olemassa, ja meillä on siellä dataa... en tiedä sit olisko pitäny mennä 028q:hun.
13:04 * dbs testing user/dbs/modularize_makefile_fedora fixes
13:24 berick dbs++
13:24 dbs hmm, "make check" fails with a fatal error of not being able to find openils/oils_utils.h
13:26 dbs wonder if that's because it's expecting to find /openils/include because it would normally be tested on a machine on which Evergreen had already been installed before
13:29 dbs Yep, soon as I install Evergreen, "make check" passes. Obviously a bug, -I needs to include a local path pointing to the source tree instead of relying on the installed headers
13:31 dbs well actually... make check fails with 2 instances of "cannot open liboils_util.so.2", which suggests that it would rely on the installed libs + ldconfig for that, too
13:32 dbs Yeah, once they're installed and "ldconfig" is run, it works. But that's not really how "make check" is supposed to work.
13:34 jeff yeah. ideally it would not only not rely on them being installed, but also ignore them if they are installed.
13:35 jeff not having written a make check target before, i don't know how that is typically accomplished, but i'd imagine there's some common practice there.
13:36 jeff gnu make manual is incredibly helpful. ;-) 'you should write the self-tests so that they work when the program is built but not installed'
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13:42 kmlussier Looking at my config.circ_matrix_test.available_copy_hold_ratio problem again, I see that most of my renewal failure messages come from ils_events.xml, but config.circ_matrix_test.available_copy_hold_ratio is not there. Is it something that could be easily added there? I'm not quite sure where the event codes come from in that file.
13:42 kmlussier Or is there another place I should be looking to customize that message?
13:50 gmcharlt jeff: does the manual also advise eating one's brocolli? ;)
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13:59 csharp berick: tested the modular makefile on ubuntu 12.04 - completed with no errors
14:02 berick csharp++
14:04 dbs berick: I managed to make it through with the additional commit from user/dbs/modularize_makefile_fedora in place
14:05 dbs still some room to clean up the Fedora install docs (running postgresql initdb & enabling host connections, for example) but that additional commit would be good. I'll signoff and push your commit
14:05 phasefx dbs: jeff: is bug 1210601 what you guys are talking about?
14:05 pinesol_green Launchpad bug 1210601 in Evergreen "C unit tests need to include/link to files directly out of the source tree" (affected: 1, heat: 6) [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1210601
14:06 dbs csharp: you signing off somewhere?
14:06 dbs phasefx: yes
14:06 csharp dbs: berick may be including my initial signoff on the ubuntu pieces I started and he fixed
14:06 berick copy that, thanks dbs.  i'll merge your cleanup commit if no one else does
14:06 jboyer-isl gmcharlt: did gitadmin@evergreen-ils.org receive another email from my gmail address? My dsa key is constantly rejected by git.evergreen-ils.org, so I sent an rsa pubkey instead.
14:07 csharp berick: should I signoff again?
14:07 berick csharp: hmm, did you already sign off on my commits?
14:08 berick arg, sorry if you did, I must have missed that
14:08 gmcharlt jboyer-isl: looks like it got caught in spam -- I'll apply the new key
14:08 csharp okay, I'll merge your branch with mine and sign off there
14:08 jboyer-isl gmcharlt: thanks a lot!
14:08 berick csharp: wait, you have another ranch?
14:08 berick branch
14:08 berick csharp: I already merged all of you ubuntu stuff into my final branch
14:09 csharp berick: ok - then I'll create a new branch to sign off with ;-)
14:09 berick csharp: excellent, thanks
14:09 * csharp has virtual pen in hand and just wants to sign somewhere
14:09 bshum csharp++
14:09 dbs phasefx: I'm pretty sure "-I../../../blah" should be something like "-I@abs_top_srcdir@/blah" for portability
14:10 phasefx dbs: yeah, that was voodoo for me.  I couldn't get @top_srcdir@ to work
14:12 phasefx dbs: I was also running into differences when running make check versus running stuff directly out of the t/ directory
14:14 gmcharlt jboyer-isl: OK, you should be all set
14:15 jboyer-isl thanks
14:15 csharp okay, just checking protocol here... I'm signing off on all but the fedora makefile commit, right?
14:15 csharp (since I didn't check that)
14:16 dbs csharp: that's the general idea, yeah
14:17 dbs although arguably that would mean that I shouldn't sign off on any debian or ubuntu specific pieces, which is nonsensical... so ...
14:17 dbs HERE IS WHERE OUR PROCESS BREAKS DOWN
14:17 dbs :)
14:17 bshum We'll just blame whoever signs last.  :)
14:19 csharp dbs: okay - so it's not just me ;-)
14:20 gmcharlt dbs: bshum: hey, it's git-blame, not git-nuke-from-orbit! ;)
14:21 * csharp just considers it "signing off on the total package" and signs off all commits
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14:25 bradl http://cdn.meme.li/i/o931f.jpg
14:26 csharp bradl++
14:26 bradl csharp: :-D
14:26 bradl csharp: sorry, that just struck me as funny for some reason
14:27 * csharp was thinking of the CLEAN ALL THE THINGS! meme too
14:27 bradl yeah!
14:29 dbs git fetch --all
14:29 dbs Come on, give it to me!
14:33 pinesol_green [evergreen|Dan Scott] Update docs for Fedora install - <http://git.evergreen-ils.org/?p=​Evergreen.git;a=commit;h=a2078f2>
14:35 dbs berick / csharp: triply-signed-off branch at working/user/dbs/lp1190279-​per-distro-install-makefile (with the exception of the fedora cleanup commit)
14:36 csharp lemme sign off again! and again!
14:38 csharp dbs++
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14:42 berick git cherry-pick --signof-storm
14:44 yboston @marc 008
14:44 pinesol_green yboston: This field contains 40 character positions (00-39) that provide coded information about the record as a whole and about special bibliographic aspects of the item being cataloged. These coded data elements are potentially useful for retrieval and data management purposes. []
14:49 * berick merges 1190279
14:55 pinesol_green Showing latest 5 of 7 commits to Evergreen...
14:55 pinesol_green [evergreen|Bill Erickson] LP 1190279 Installer makefiles OS targets for PG server - <http://git.evergreen-ils.org/?p=​Evergreen.git;a=commit;h=a3c338f>
14:55 pinesol_green [evergreen|Bill Erickson] LP 1190279 Modularize Makefile.install misc. repairs - <http://git.evergreen-ils.org/?p=​Evergreen.git;a=commit;h=f97334d>
14:55 pinesol_green [evergreen|Bill Erickson] LP 1190279 libtest-warn-perl for ubuntu targets - <http://git.evergreen-ils.org/?p=​Evergreen.git;a=commit;h=8b90537>
14:55 pinesol_green [evergreen|Bill Erickson] LP 1190279 Modularize Makefile.install fedora target - <http://git.evergreen-ils.org/?p=​Evergreen.git;a=commit;h=2f8bd75>
14:55 pinesol_green [evergreen|Dan Scott] Fedora: remove source installs for packaged dependencies - <http://git.evergreen-ils.org/?p=​Evergreen.git;a=commit;h=3e7cbfa>
14:55 bshum berick++ csharp++ dbs++
14:55 phasefx huzzah
14:55 csharp yay!
14:56 phasefx means I can run the eg_wheezy_installer.sh script against master
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15:45 pinesol_green [evergreen|Pasi Kallinen] Move acq.currency_code entries and wrap for i18n - <http://git.evergreen-ils.org/?p=​Evergreen.git;a=commit;h=64e473d>
15:45 pinesol_green [evergreen|Dan Wells] Move exchange_rate seed data to 950 file - <http://git.evergreen-ils.org/?p=​Evergreen.git;a=commit;h=1163954>
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16:36 pinesol_green [evergreen|Lebbeous Fogle-Weekley] Acq general search: improve searching for negative comparisons - <http://git.evergreen-ils.org/?p=​Evergreen.git;a=commit;h=856e992>
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