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paxed |
ah, i am easily amused. |
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paxed |
$ rgrep AutoGrod * |
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paxed |
Open-ILS/web/js/dojo/openils/widget/AutoGrid.js: console.log("AutoGrod cpSortHandler(): " + js2JSON(fields)); |
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paxed |
how do surveys work? i can't seem to be able to see or edit the survey options/questions/whatever anywhere? |
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Dyrcona |
More fun with Vietnamese records today: authorities this time. |
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Dyrcona |
sed++ |
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dbwells |
tspindler: Sorry I missed your Hack-a-Way hotel question from yesterday. Based on the poll response from a month or two back, we have reserved a block of 16 rooms at our on-campus hotel. The event rate is $77.00 per night (plus 15% state and local taxes). We will be requesting firm committments from attendees fairly soon; just watch the list. |
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rfrasur |
dbwells: that's a great rate. Just sayin' |
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kmlussier |
csharp: I've got some Vandelay info from C/W MARS. They typically limit their uploads to files with 1,000 bib records. She said the largest she ever successfully loaded was 3.4 MB (1,918 records). |
| 10:31 |
kmlussier |
bshum: I saw Lori at ALA, and she said Jim made a backup of RSCEL before it was taken down. I don't know what the best way is to access it. |
| 10:36 |
bshum |
kmlussier: I'll let moodaepo coordinate that since he had wanted to poke at it. |
| 10:39 |
senator |
<way-off-topic> email today from "LinkedIn Influencers": "Lebbeous, is your kid worth $100 million? See what Michael Lazerow thinks" michael lazerow can drop dead. of all the obnoxious taglines... linkedin reminds me of all the kinds of people i'm glad i *don't* work with |
| 10:40 |
senator |
library_people++ |
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bshum |
senator++ |
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rfrasur |
senator++ |
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jboyer-isl |
"Hello there! Would you like to engage with our brand?" |
| 10:42 |
rfrasur |
Oh dear God, jboyer-isl |
| 10:42 |
jboyer-isl |
LinkedIn may be the worst social thing, but I don't think Facebook can kill it like Myspace and that other thing. |
| 10:42 |
rfrasur |
I know I'm supposedly supposed to love/care re: linkedin |
| 10:42 |
* rfrasur |
just hates it |
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rfrasur |
No, FB can't do anything to it...because it theoretically should matter. It's just so pretentious and full of itself. |
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phasefx |
paxed: re: surveys, once a survey starts, you can't change it. Is that what you ran into? |
| 10:44 |
paxed |
phasefx: ohh. i dunno, i've never even looked at the surveys before. |
| 10:44 |
rfrasur |
I'm thinking that Google+ and I get along pretty well, even though it's virtually useless at this point...not particularly intuitive...etc. |
| 10:44 |
paxed |
phasefx: but that could be it... |
| 10:46 |
rfrasur |
btw, Lebbeous' kid is worth way more than $100M. Idiotic question. |
| 10:48 |
tspindler |
I was wondering if anyone is doing any work with the Overdrive API to allow checkout from the TPAC? |
| 10:49 |
senator |
rfrasur++ :-) |
| 10:49 |
bshum |
tspindler: I think jeff was looking at the new Overdrive API and had some initial stuff on the table. Don't know how far he's gotten since then though, I think he's been busy with NCIP, etc. |
| 10:49 |
bshum |
(and like a thousand other things) |
| 10:49 |
tspindler |
dbwells: thanks |
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tspindler |
bshum: ok thanks |
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rfrasur |
This was the WORST craft idea EVER for a story time! TOO. MUCH. CUTTING. |
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ktomita__ |
@Dyrcona what version of EG are you working with authorities in? |
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pinesol_green |
ktomita__: Have you tried turning it off and back on again? |
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* rfrasur |
is weighing the pros and cons of getting on extension ladder to fix a downspout at the lib. |
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dbwells |
grabbing 802 |
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Dyrcona |
ktomita__: Master. |
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Dyrcona |
ktomita__: I haven't gotten to the Evergreen part, yet, though. I am using a simple little program with MARC::Batch to check the records first. |
| 11:55 |
pinesol_green |
[evergreen|Mike Rylander] Preserve record order of subfields for authority heading extraction - <http://git.evergreen-ils.org/?p=Evergreen.git;a=commit;h=4307f5d> |
| 11:55 |
pinesol_green |
[evergreen|Mike Rylander] Upgrade script for file-order authority subfields - <http://git.evergreen-ils.org/?p=Evergreen.git;a=commit;h=333c1b8> |
| 11:55 |
pinesol_green |
[evergreen|Dan Wells] Stamping upgrade script for file-order authority subfields - <http://git.evergreen-ils.org/?p=Evergreen.git;a=commit;h=4cfa942> |
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ktomita__ |
Dyrcona: thanks for the info. I am playing around with it in 2.2 |
| 11:59 |
rfrasur |
apparently others are having issues w/ Comcast today. The elevator music is less charming this time. |
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rfrasur_ |
woohoo...getting an experienced lib assistant back when school starts! staffing win |
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ktomita__ |
Does anyone have experience with batch authority import in 2.2? |
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moodaepo |
bshum++ |
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moodaepo |
kmlussier++ #should I contact Lori? |
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rfrasur_ |
Are any of your consortia/systems sending the Hackaway Sponsorship request out to individual member libraries? |
| 13:13 |
rfrasur_ |
Also, dbwells, is there going to be a documentation component to the hackaway? |
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dbwells |
rfrasur_: I'd say any documentation coming from the Hack-a-Way would be coincidental. |
| 13:16 |
rfrasur_ |
okay, good to know. So, is there any reason that you can think for anyone other than programmers/developers to be there. Serious question. |
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mrpeters |
@later tell hopkinsju_ hey man, shoot me an email when you have some time --- mpeters emeralddata.net --- i lost your contact info |
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pinesol_green |
mrpeters: The operation succeeded. |
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frank____ |
Hi everibody, does someone know how can I open the 856 DATA url in a new window? I mean in a target="_ba" |
| 13:20 |
frank____ |
target="_blank" sorry |
| 13:20 |
WNPL |
Would anybody know if there is a way to include a ILS User expiration in my reports? |
| 13:21 |
WNPL |
Expiration date* |
| 13:21 |
dbwells |
rfrasur: The intention of the event is to focus on development, especially complex or cross-feature development which can benefit from in-person developer interaction. I don't want to exclude people outright, but if a person cannot partcipate in such things, then this event isn't really for them. |
| 13:26 |
yboston |
rfrasur: I am a member of DIG, and I am planning on attending the hack-away. I am not very familiar with the code, but I already know some Template Toolkit basics, but if all else fails I can set up tests systems with brand new code at the hack away. I can also work on some documentation while there. |
| 13:27 |
yboston |
rfrasur: DIG also has rough plans to try to do our own documentation sprint / hack-a-way sometime in the next few months. We had one last year around the same time of the dev hack-a-way at my library in Boston |
| 13:27 |
kmlussier |
moodaepo: Sure, either Lori or Jim. I think Jim has the archive. |
| 13:28 |
rfrasur |
dbwells: yboston: will roll this around in my head for a few minutes - hookin' a youngin' up with a new card and some work/study for her fines. |
| 13:33 |
rfrasur |
okay...reading |
| 13:35 |
rfrasur |
dbwells: that's also my concern. Of course, I'd like to hang out and work on stuff, but my ability to work on code is negligable, and this is time to get real work done. So, I think I'll think on this more. |
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Rogan_Ni |
rfrasur: I almost wrote in my email that this is an anti-conference because it's not for everyone. And I was thrilled to see the DIG group picking up the idea for their work. |
| 13:38 |
rfrasur |
yboston: I've also been thinking specifically about the template toolkit and wanting to dig in there. Honestly, a big draw for this specific hackaway is proximity and cost. |
| 13:38 |
Rogan_Ni |
I think we need some time for everyone's ideas to come together (conference) and other times for more focused narrow work. |
| 13:38 |
rfrasur |
Rogan_Ni: I saw and have been evaluating on my own even before. |
| 13:40 |
rfrasur |
Okay, thanks all. Many things to think about. |
| 13:40 |
rfrasur |
Rogan_Ni: that's how I read the email anyway, btw. and it's true. |
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jeffdavis |
jeff: did you ever get anywhere with bug 1013786 ? |
| 14:20 |
pinesol_green |
Launchpad bug 1013786 in Evergreen 2.3 "tpac: Check for password strength at login" (affected: 7, heat: 36) [Medium,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1013786 |
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Rogan_Ni |
Yay, kmlussier is here. We have someone to blame stuff on. |
| 14:25 |
kmlussier |
Wait, I was only gone for a few minutes. What did I miss? |
| 14:25 |
rfrasur |
no way. kmlussier is blameless at all times. |
| 14:26 |
Guest27754 |
jeffdavis: yes. we're directing patrons with a default password to the update password page, with a message suggesting they set a new password. at this time we are not forcing it. i should wrap that up so that i can add that as a pullrequest. |
| 14:26 |
Rogan_Ni |
It was complicated but I'm working on tying you into various political assassinations. |
| 14:27 |
rfrasur |
don't worry, kmlussier. He can't prove anything. |
| 14:27 |
kmlussier |
Rogan_Ni: And I thought I had covered my tracks so well. |
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Guest27754 |
er |
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jeff_ |
jeffdavis: yes. we're directing patrons with a default password to the update password page, with a message suggesting they set a new password. at this time we are not forcing it. i should wrap that up so that i can add that as a pullrequest. |
| 14:28 |
jeff_ |
jeffdavis: this pair of changes emcompasses what we are using today: |
| 14:28 |
jeff_ |
jeffdavis: http://git.evergreen-ils.org/?p=evergreen/tadl.git;a=commitdiff;h=d9ebba598d7cafd6a44a5b6611c7d879722e7b52 |
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jeff_ |
jeffdavis: https://github.com/tadl/Evergreen_templates_tadlskin/commit/ede5f22774c16ebb13227228c62c6a902d1b85bb |
| 14:30 |
jeff_ |
i think i'd like it to use the password strength regex as well as a more generic message. making it configurably mandatory is something i'm torn on as to if that's in scope for the bug / required for resolution. |
| 14:33 |
jeffdavis |
thanks jef_ |
| 14:33 |
jeffdavis |
i'd suggest that it should be configurably mandatory iff that was the case in jspac, but that's just me |
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tsbere |
I think jspac did it by force all the time unless you set the password regex to something that indicated "don't care" |
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jeffdavis |
what is the timelog function for in EGCatLoader? |
| 15:04 |
jeffdavis |
I see that it logs stuff when DEBUG_TIMING is set, but it doesn't seem like the log output goes anywhere? |
| 15:09 |
dbs |
jeffdavis: goes to the footer |
| 15:18 |
jeffdavis |
thanks! |
| 15:20 |
dbs |
Ah, egconf hackfest 2012, good times |
| 15:24 |
bshum |
The good ol' days of being the first community TPAC adopter :) |
| 15:24 |
bshum |
And going, omg why's this slow?!? |
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bshum |
dbs++ |
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bshum |
senator++ |
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dbs |
bshum++ |
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kmlussier |
@weather 02771 |
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pinesol_green |
kmlussier: The current temperature in APRSWXNET Rumford RI US, Seekonk, Massachusetts is 75.9°F (2:53 PM EDT on July 09, 2013). Conditions: Overcast. Humidity: 82%. Dew Point: 69.8°F. Pressure: 30.10 in 1019 hPa (Steady). |
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bshum |
@weather 06708 |
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pinesol_green |
bshum: The current temperature in Town Plot, Waterbury, Connecticut is 75.2°F (3:30 PM EDT on July 09, 2013). Conditions: Thunderstorm. Humidity: 93%. Dew Point: 73.4°F. Pressure: 30.09 in 1019 hPa (Steady). |
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gsams_ |
@weather 76262 |
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pinesol_green |
gsams_: The current temperature in Courts, Trophy Club, Texas is 99.3°F (2:37 PM CDT on July 09, 2013). Conditions: Partly Cloudy. Humidity: 35%. Dew Point: 66.2°F. Pressure: 30.02 in 1016 hPa (Falling). |
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frank____ |
Hello everybody, does someone know Why I am getting the following error make: *** No hay ninguna regla para construir el objetivo `linux-client'. Alto., this when I try tu build staff client from linux with make linux-client |
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bshum |
frank____: Best guess, but is this on a Ubuntu 12.04 and 64-bit server? |
| 16:25 |
bshum |
Or wait, hmm, my spanish is rusty. Maybe that's just saying that it doesn't have the right make target? |
| 16:25 |
frank____ |
hi bshum not, I its on debian 32bits |
| 16:25 |
bshum |
frank____: Which version of Evergreen is it? |
| 16:26 |
frank____ |
2.3.7 |
| 16:26 |
frank____ |
I am followinf this http://docs.evergreen-ils.org/2.2/_installing_on_linux.html |
| 16:27 |
dbs |
frank____: might need "make linux32-client" or something like that now? |
| 16:27 |
bshum |
Not in 2.3 |
| 16:27 |
bshum |
Or wait, did that get backported? |
| 16:27 |
dbs |
Yep |
| 16:27 |
bshum |
Oh, heh :\ |
| 16:27 |
dbs |
So says "git checkout origin/rel_2_3" anyway :) |
| 16:28 |
bshum |
Of course it did. |
| 16:29 |
dbs |
http://docs.evergreen-ils.org/2.3/_installing_on_linux.html is wrong too |
| 16:30 |
dbs |
ugh, docs/installation/staff_client_installation.txt still refers to 2.3.3 even in master :/ |
| 16:31 |
bshum |
:( |
| 16:31 |
dbs |
it's kind of weird in there, I'll take a stab at cleaning it up a bit |
| 16:32 |
Dyrcona |
frank____: Are you in xul/staff_client when you do the make command? |
| 16:32 |
Dyrcona |
If not, you need to be. |
| 16:33 |
frank____ |
yes I am doing cd /home/opensrf/Evergreen-ILS-2.3.7/Open-ILS/xul/staff_client |
| 16:33 |
frank____ |
Dyrcona: thats correct? |
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dbs |
frank____: try "make linux32-client" |
| 16:34 |
Dyrcona |
frank____: That is the correct place, yes. |
| 16:35 |
frank____ |
Dyrcona: dbs It is working |
| 16:35 |
frank____ |
Packing as evergreen_staff_client_i686.tar.bz2 |
| 16:36 |
frank____ |
So when the server is 64bit is make linux-client and when is 32 bits make linux32-client ? |
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Dyrcona |
frank____: It's more complicated than that. You should be able to make a 64 bit client, with make linux64-client |
| 16:38 |
frank____ |
ok :) |
| 16:38 |
Dyrcona |
frank____: I may be babbling.....Ignore that last remark. |
| 16:38 |
Dyrcona |
I have been working with MARC records all day and it is rather tedious. |
| 16:38 |
frank____ |
yes, no problem, |
| 16:39 |
frank____ |
well, thanks everybody, Dyrcona dbs bshum , regards from Mexico |
| 16:39 |
Dyrcona |
I usually do make updates-client, but that requires a lot of extra dependencies. |
| 16:39 |
bshum |
Dyrcona: Maybe we should have a session at the next conference on doing automatic updates. |
| 16:39 |
Dyrcona |
bshum: Guess so. |
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* bshum |
likes to do "make updates-client" too and avoid the hassle of picking which to build or not. |
| 16:40 |
* bshum |
is also getting lazier in his old age. |
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* dbs |
was just rewriting the linux install docs to remove the "Wine" recommendation and to use "make rigrelease linux32-client linux64-client updates" |
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Rogan_Ni |
I do not want to know what my age category is if bshum is now in old age. |
| 16:42 |
mrpeters1 |
oh bshum, dont say that....think we're the same age... |
| 16:42 |
kmlussier |
Ha! |
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kmlussier |
I like to pretend I'm the same age as bshum. :) |
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bshum |
:) |
| 16:45 |
bshum |
I'll try finding something constructive to do with my youthful enthusiasm I guess. |
| 16:46 |
kmlussier |
bshum++ #You could always make cupcakes. |
| 16:46 |
Rogan_Ni |
Bshum is bringing cupcakes to the hack-a-way? |
| 16:47 |
kmlussier |
How well do cupcakes survive air travel? |
| 16:47 |
bshum |
Hehe |
| 16:47 |
Rogan_Ni |
I've never tried but considering I barely survive it I'm guessing not well. |
| 16:48 |
bshum |
I really hate baking actually; though I have apparently done so on rare occasion. |
| 16:48 |
bshum |
Something to do with the oven being hot. And sticking my hands near it. |
| 16:49 |
bshum |
So, no. No cupcakes. |
| 16:49 |
Dyrcona |
TSA will confiscate them, most likely. |
| 16:49 |
Dyrcona |
Or, rather steal them and eat them, and claim it is a prohibited item. |
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* dbs |
doesn't really like the statement that "Official Evergreen releases have corresponding Windows based staff clients ready |
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dbs |
to use." - in practice, I thought we were generally recommending against that, as it prevents auto updates? |
| 16:53 |
dbs |
Oh well, one fight at a time |
| 16:53 |
Rogan_Ni |
You mean the generic staff client versus the one built with the specific server id, right? |
| 16:55 |
dbs |
Rogan_Ni: yeah |
| 16:55 |
kmlussier |
dbs: Could you add that recommendation to the same section? |
| 16:56 |
kmlussier |
Or maybe say something like: check with your systems people to see if you should be using a custom client. |
| 16:56 |
dbs |
kmlussier: that's more involved than I have time to think about right now; I primarily want to fix Frank's problem first :) |
| 16:57 |
Rogan_Ni |
The role of that with autoupdating wasn't clear to me for a long time so I think we need to be pretty ... upfront about it. (poor choice of words but it's late in my day) |
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dbs |
http://git.evergreen-ils.org/?p=working/Evergreen.git;a=shortlog;h=refs/heads/user/dbs/linux_client_bitness_docs if someone wants to take a look at what I've done so far |
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dbs |
Rogan_Ni: fully agreed. Might be able to pull out some of what we did for our 2.4 upgrade and reuse that |
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dbs |
step 4 of http://biblio.laurentian.ca/tickets/conifer/wiki/sysadminProcedureForUpgradingEvergreen24#Upgradetheevergreencode (very roughly) |
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* bshum |
waves at rri, greetings! |
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dbs |
There are now two commits on http://git.evergreen-ils.org/?p=working/Evergreen.git;a=shortlog;h=refs/heads/user/dbs/linux_client_bitness_docs - the first is a significant fix for make_updates.sh |
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bshum |
Oops :( |
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dbs |
Tempted to just go ahead and push it without signoff, as it's clearly a simple typo. |
| 19:53 |
bshum |
dbs: Sounds reasonable to me, though I can push it for you too. |
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dbs |
bshum: more eyes are better :) |
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bshum |
dbs: As a procedural question actually, while I have you... |
| 19:54 |
bshum |
So paxed had a few commits to fix seed data that remingtron signed off on. They look good to me, but there aren't any upgrade scripts for them. |
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bshum |
Should I wrap them each separately? |
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bshum |
Or would it be crazy of me to make an upgrade SQL that can cover some/all of them? |
| 19:55 |
bshum |
Or maybe that's something I should mention onto the ticket itself for them to poke at. |
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pinesol_green |
[evergreen|Dan Scott] Build 64-bit Linux client updates when asked - <http://git.evergreen-ils.org/?p=Evergreen.git;a=commit;h=ccc0a75> |
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pinesol_green |
[evergreen|Dan Scott] Correct Linux staff client build instructions - <http://git.evergreen-ils.org/?p=Evergreen.git;a=commit;h=39c46c1> |
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* bshum |
ponders |
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mcooper |
bshum: what are you pondering? |
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bshum |
mcooper: Reading the bug tickets and picking which to work on. |
| 20:16 |
bshum |
mcooper: Speaking of which, I vaguely remember testing your work for the admin perms so whenever you're finished with your rebase, I think we can move that along. |
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pinesol_green |
[evergreen|Pasi Kallinen] Fix LP#1108668 by marking the internet access level column contents as translatable in fm_IDL.xml - <http://git.evergreen-ils.org/?p=Evergreen.git;a=commit;h=f0f70c4> |
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mcooper |
bshum: funny you mention it, i did that just recently. needs some testing though. |
| 20:18 |
mcooper |
bshum: by me i mean, i try to do that before inflicting anything on other people |
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mcooper |
=) |
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bshum |
mcooper++ |
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pinesol_green |
[evergreen|Jason Stephenson] Modify default logging of SIP2 in oils_ctl.sh. - <http://git.evergreen-ils.org/?p=Evergreen.git;a=commit;h=d2a8ca3> |
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pinesol_green |
[evergreen|Pasi Kallinen] Don't let pref_ou repeat in staff recent searches list - <http://git.evergreen-ils.org/?p=Evergreen.git;a=commit;h=8a1598e> |
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dbs |
bshum: sorry, I went right into "putting children to bed" mode after my last stmt |
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dbs |
bshum++ |
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dbs |
Now going into "watching geek & sundry" mode |
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