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paxed |
Is the IDL validator still used? I seems to complain a bit about fm_IDL.xml |
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csharp_ |
so during the vandelay upload step, to which location is the file uploaded? I am expecting it to be in the location specified in <open-ils.vandelay><importer> in opensrf.xml, but I don't see it there |
| 08:04 |
csharp_ |
also not in /tmp on either of the brick heads on my test server |
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berick |
csharp_: the file is deleted after all the records are queued |
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csharp |
berick: I guess I'm trying to see where in the process things are. I'm testing whether the ~250MB file I'm uploading is actually moving since I'm just seeing "Uploading..." on the interface. Just looking for a way to monitor progress |
| 08:51 |
berick |
ah, gotcha |
| 08:52 |
berick |
in that case, yes, you should see a file slowing growing in size in the directory configured under <importer> |
| 08:52 |
berick |
s/slowing/slowly/ |
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csharp |
ok thanks |
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paxed |
other than Maketext, i guess we don't have a specific way of doing translations in pure perl? (thinking of translations for SuperCat and clark) |
| 10:05 |
eeevil |
paxed: translations of what in supercat and clark? in-db translations (config.i18n_core) for supercat and translations of fm_IDL.xml for reporter should get all the static strings |
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paxed |
eeevil: some hard-coded strings in both. Eg. bug 1100240 |
| 10:05 |
pinesol_green |
Launchpad bug 1100240 in Evergreen "Clark Kent speaks only English" (affected: 1, heat: 6) [Wishlist,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1100240 |
| 10:07 |
eeevil |
paxed: ah, those are fair for clark. agreed. |
| 10:07 |
paxed |
and SuperCat has feed titles in english. |
| 10:09 |
paxed |
i guess for clark i could just put the strings in 950.db-seed and query the config.i18n_core, but i'm not sure if that's the best solution. |
| 10:12 |
eeevil |
the bigger problem is figuring out the locale to use at display time. we could leverage mod_xmlent and DTDs |
| 10:13 |
paxed |
would be enough to fall back to the default_locale in opensrf.xml |
| 10:14 |
paxed |
can't really pass the locale as a paameter unless we put it in the report request table ... |
| 10:14 |
paxed |
+r |
| 10:14 |
eeevil |
in supercat, the changes feed is the big problem .... a dtd would be harder to use there. the bookbag and search feed titles could just become simpler |
| 10:15 |
paxed |
and supercat accepts a locale param |
| 10:16 |
eeevil |
I'm not sure that the report definition should contain a locale. wouldn't we want the consumer of the output decide how to view it? |
| 10:17 |
paxed |
the report output is static file ... |
| 10:18 |
eeevil |
well, the data coming out of the db, sure, that has to be pinned (or an internal dtd has to be generated for the HTML output). I'm referring to the in-code strings. a set of static dtds can change that at view time |
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bshum |
Calling 0801 |
| 10:36 |
pinesol_green |
[evergreen|Thomas Berezansky] Add registration/edit time barcode restrictions - <http://git.evergreen-ils.org/?p=Evergreen.git;a=commit;h=47bfda2> |
| 10:36 |
pinesol_green |
[evergreen|Ben Shum] Stamping upgrade script for user barcode regex setting - <http://git.evergreen-ils.org/?p=Evergreen.git;a=commit;h=ab37833> |
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pinesol_green |
[evergreen|Bill Erickson] LP1187016 Prevent new copies on activated POs - <http://git.evergreen-ils.org/?p=Evergreen.git;a=commit;h=004974d> |
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pinesol_green |
[evergreen|Michael Peters] LP#973666: Print Purchase Order does not print PO Name - <http://git.evergreen-ils.org/?p=Evergreen.git;a=commit;h=f6c06a2> |
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Dyrcona |
Whee! Flaky wireless. |
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* bshum |
waves at gsams |
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* gsams |
waves at bshum |
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* rfrasur |
sings "Happy Monday to you, You [may or may not] work in a zoo...It may not smell like monkeys...but you might get the flu" |
| 11:42 |
* paxed |
squares |
| 11:42 |
rfrasur |
(tenuous, I know) |
| 11:42 |
bshum |
@wunder 76262 |
| 11:42 |
pinesol_green |
bshum: The current temperature in Courts, Trophy Club, Texas is 85.6°F (10:22 AM CDT on July 08, 2013). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 70%. Dew Point: 75.2°F. Pressure: 30.04 in 1017 hPa (Rising). |
| 11:42 |
rfrasur |
too |
| 11:42 |
rfrasur |
hot |
| 11:43 |
gsams |
and it is only 10:30 |
| 11:43 |
rfrasur |
way too hot |
| 11:43 |
bshum |
gsams: I'm glad we did the upgrade earlier than later in the summer after all. :D |
| 11:43 |
gsams |
no kidding, it would have been brutal under our secondary time frame |
| 11:45 |
paxed |
bshum: re bug 1197050 - hopefully you're not entering barcodes with spaces into the system anymore (as of commit 47bfda2) :) |
| 11:45 |
pinesol_green |
Launchpad bug 1197050 in Evergreen "Trim away whitespace from barcodes" (affected: 1, heat: 6) [Wishlist,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1197050 |
| 11:45 |
pinesol_green |
[evergreen|Thomas Berezansky] Add registration/edit time barcode restrictions - <http://git.evergreen-ils.org/?p=Evergreen.git;a=commit;h=47bfda2> |
| 11:46 |
bshum |
paxed: Well, we never intended to create barcodes with spaces in them. And that commit applies to users not copies? |
| 11:46 |
bshum |
Or did I misunderstand your bug post? |
| 11:46 |
paxed |
bshum: ah, righto, my bad |
| 11:47 |
bshum |
I haven't decided if we're going to set the regex or not yet though. |
| 11:47 |
bshum |
I planned to decide later :D |
| 11:47 |
bshum |
paxed: And yeah... stupid spaces |
| 11:47 |
bshum |
It was the 14th character for one of our librarires |
| 11:48 |
bshum |
Where it would sometimes be a space. Or a / or any other symbol. |
| 11:48 |
bshum |
Super annoying. |
| 11:48 |
paxed |
ew. |
| 11:48 |
bshum |
I'm supposed to write some SQL later to identify how many of those are still hanging around. |
| 11:48 |
rfrasur |
bshum:am I understand that all of your libraries don't use a 14 dig barcode? |
| 11:48 |
rfrasur |
(nice grammar, that) |
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bshum |
rfrasur: They're supposed to be. But let's say consistency is not everybody's strength. And also, legacy items from old systems that made no sense. |
| 11:50 |
rfrasur |
hmm, I have nothing good to say about that this morning. |
| 11:50 |
bshum |
Oh, only 407 items with spaces in the barcode. |
| 11:50 |
bshum |
Not as bad as I originally thought. |
| 11:50 |
rfrasur |
yeah...no. I choose not to think about it even. |
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rfrasur |
@eightball Will we all survive today? |
| 11:53 |
pinesol_green |
rfrasur: You know the answer better than I. |
| 11:53 |
rfrasur |
truth |
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rfrasur |
On a brighter note, local newspapers are quite lovely with their flexibility. |
| 12:08 |
bshum |
dbwells: Just quadruple checking before I go look at flights, that the Hackaway is definitely September 17-19, and I should be heading towards Grand Rapids? |
| 12:09 |
rfrasur |
bshum: def Grand Rapids |
| 12:09 |
rfrasur |
and def Sept. 17-19 according to my calendar |
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kmlussier |
rfrasur: Are you going? |
| 12:10 |
rfrasur |
kmlussier: It's my plan - just need to make sure I know WHY I'm going other than hometown and EG awesomeness. |
| 12:10 |
rfrasur |
I need to read through the documentation stuff...since that's probably the WHY |
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kmlussier |
rfrasur: EG awesomeness is a good enough reason to go. |
| 12:11 |
rfrasur |
kmlussier: are you? |
| 12:11 |
kmlussier |
rfrasur: Still mulling it over. |
| 12:11 |
rfrasur |
kmlussier: agreed...but it's the diff between vacation and work related. |
| 12:12 |
rfrasur |
heck, may just take it as vacation anyway and hang out with my sisters for a couple days |
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dbwells |
bshum: yes, that is right. The goal is three full days, so I'd plan to arrive later on Monday and leave either Thursday evening or Friday morning. |
| 12:30 |
paxed |
i'd but it's a bit too pricey for me :) |
| 12:30 |
paxed |
i'd go* |
| 12:31 |
rfrasur |
paxed: no outgoing cargo planes...or sleighs w/ reindeer? |
| 12:31 |
paxed |
hah |
| 12:32 |
rfrasur |
just saying...where there's no thought for safety or legality...or reality...there's a way |
| 12:33 |
paxed |
sure, i'll teleport over, i just need the exact universal coordinates... |
| 12:33 |
rfrasur |
okay |
| 12:34 |
rfrasur |
@wunder 49504 |
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pinesol_green |
rfrasur: The current temperature in Near Lake Michigan Dr and Collindale, Grand Rapids, Michigan is 75.4°F (12:33 PM EDT on July 08, 2013). Conditions: Light Rain. Humidity: 88%. Dew Point: 71.6°F. Pressure: 30.02 in 1017 hPa (Rising). |
| 12:35 |
* paxed |
felt kinda tempted to target to -m2 one or two bugs he created fixed for after the deadline... but managed not to. |
| 12:42 |
rfrasur |
@weather 49509 |
| 12:42 |
pinesol_green |
rfrasur: The current temperature in Downtown, Grandville, Michigan is 74.3°F (12:33 PM EDT on July 08, 2013). Conditions: Light Rain. Humidity: 79%. Dew Point: 66.2°F. Pressure: 30.02 in 1017 hPa (Rising). |
| 12:43 |
rfrasur |
I dunno what that means, paxed, but it sounded good...right? |
| 12:43 |
paxed |
rfrasur: heh |
| 12:44 |
bshum |
dbwells: Sounds good, thanks! I'll aim for Monday arrival and Friday leaving then. :D |
| 12:53 |
rfrasur |
dang...so much for it being cheaper to fly than drive from IND (or anywhere surrounding) |
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tspindler |
For the hackfest, is there any coordination for hotels? We may send dpearl |
| 13:15 |
rfrasur |
tspindler: I'm not sure about specific agreements, but here's this https://maps.google.com/maps?oe=utf-8&client=firefox-a&ie=UTF-8&q=calvin+college&fb=1&gl=us&hq=calvin+college&hnear=calvin+college&cid=0,0,11337462256262881666&ei=SvPaUayZEsugyQH67oHwDQ&ved=0CKIBEPwSMAA |
| 13:18 |
rfrasur |
That's all also very (ish) close to the airport where there are more hotels. |
| 13:18 |
rfrasur |
If you drag the map to the south east |
| 13:25 |
gsams |
I was wondering if anyone knew much of anything about the mattype icons that KCLS uses? |
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gsams |
I'm currently trying to research how to implement that setup into our own system, but I am having zero luck finding any information about how that system works. |
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bshum |
gsams: I know it's custom. |
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bshum |
:D |
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berick |
gsams: they have material type specifiers in their marc records |
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bshum |
But basically I think they're adding custom tags in their MARC records to identify that |
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rfrasur |
is there a KCLS person that drops in here fairly regularly? |
| 13:28 |
berick |
they extract the values (via SVF/record attributes/coded value maps) |
| 13:28 |
berick |
in the tpac they value is matched to a image on the filesystem |
| 13:29 |
berick |
KCLS donated the images to the community as well, FWIW. they're in Open-ILS/web/images/format_icons/mattype |
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bshum |
rfrasur: Err, b_bonner is from KCLS but he's quiet :) |
| 13:29 |
bshum |
And mtcarlson, though I don't see him in channel at the moment. |
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gsams |
berick: I've seen those image files in our system. I'm just not sure how to reference them instead of the item type ones. |
| 13:30 |
gsams |
I figured the coded value map would be the way to go, but I'm not sure what values would be necessary |
| 13:31 |
berick |
gsams: to access them today, you would have to mave a config.record_attr_definition with name 'mattype' |
| 13:31 |
rfrasur |
bshum, do you know either of their real names? |
| 13:31 |
berick |
which extracts single-letter codes |
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berick |
from the marc |
| 13:31 |
rfrasur |
(they're not on the who's who list) |
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b_bonner |
rfrasur: we put the single digit code in our 998 subfield D |
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berick |
those single letter codes are then mapped to the image file by name a.png, f.png, etc. |
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rfrasur |
ah hah - there you have it gsams |
| 13:32 |
berick |
the marc field can be anything as long as the record_attr config can find it |
| 13:32 |
gsams |
b_bonner: thank you very much for that information! |
| 13:33 |
kmlussier |
gsams: FWIW, we're shopping around for development quotes to provide some more flexibility for those icons. Without using data in a 9xx field. |
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gsams |
berick: This is definitely going to get me in the right place, thank you very much. |
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paxed |
kmlussier: sounds interesting... |
| 13:34 |
berick |
gsams: no problem |
| 13:34 |
gsams |
kmlussier: I think NTLC would be interested in where that goes, we are wanting the ebook options the most, but I prefer more informative icons for our patrons in general |
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rfrasur |
kmlussier: that does sound interesting. |
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kmlussier |
paxed, gsams: It's a fairly high priority for our libraries, so I expect it's a project we'll ultimately follow through on. I'll let you know when we have more details. |
| 13:35 |
gsams |
kmlussier: Please do! |
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paxed |
kmlussier: ^ |
| 13:36 |
pastebot |
"b_bonner" at 204.193.129.146 pasted "kcls mat_type config.coded_value_map" (29 lines) at http://paste.evergreen-ils.org/10 |
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pastebot |
"b_bonner" at 204.193.129.146 pasted "and record_attr_definition" (33 lines) at http://paste.evergreen-ils.org/11 |
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b_bonner |
gsams: ^^ |
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gsams |
b_bonner: Many thanks! The group will be pleased! |
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b_bonner |
gsams: no prob. |
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rfrasur |
I might or might not have printed two batches of checks in the wrong order |
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* rfrasur |
rolls eyes |
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rfrasur |
oh...wait. It's only one. At least that's optimistic. |
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* rfrasur |
only lost the plot one day instead of two...which happened to fall on a bookkeeping day. |
| 14:19 |
rfrasur |
mmm...when staff doublechecks time of staff meeting - the sweet state of management zen (which is then broken by boneheadedness of manager who happens to be self and, therefore, cannot not be ignored) |
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csharp |
kmlussier: around? |
| 15:00 |
kmlussier |
csharp: Yup. |
| 15:00 |
csharp |
I was just wondering what your experience is using vandelay with large upload files |
| 15:00 |
csharp |
I attempted a 250MB upload and it was unsuccessful |
| 15:01 |
csharp |
have you seen a practical size limit? |
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kmlussier |
csharp: My understanding is that our consortia limit the size of their uploads, but I can't remember what limit they used. |
| 15:01 |
csharp |
it's possible that my staff client auth session timed out while it was running too |
| 15:01 |
csharp |
ah - makes sense |
| 15:02 |
kmlussier |
I don't think anyone did a test to see how large the files could get. But I can check. |
| 15:02 |
csharp |
thanks |
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* rfrasur |
is jamming to library elevator music while on hold |
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gsams |
rfrasur: the best part of phone calls |
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rfrasur |
gsams: It was kinda nice...a little silly...but nothing wrong with that on Monday. |
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* rfrasur |
will expect much higher quality by the mid/end of the week. |
| 15:23 |
gsams |
rfrasur: some Mondays you just have to take what you can get. |
| 15:23 |
rfrasur |
gsams: that is a very true statement |
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rfrasur |
oooo, we might be almost of the computer crashing point! Yes! |
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rfrasur |
s/of/to |
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bshum |
old_dojo-- |
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rfrasur |
brutal...but so predictable. poor lil computer is begging to be replaced. |
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Dyrcona |
Vietnamese records are fun! |
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Dyrcona |
MARC::CharSet just loves them to death! |
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Dyrcona |
gmcharlt: I'll be emailing you some examples a bit later, possibly tomorrow. |
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gmcharlt |
Dyrcona++ |
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rfrasur |
Hah! Have been wanting to test some Korean records. How many characters are in the vietnamese charset? |
| 16:14 |
Dyrcona |
Phép lạ của sự tỉnh thức. |
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Dyrcona |
That's what seems to be causing the problem. |
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rfrasur |
oh...that's not what I was expecting. |
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rfrasur |
what a strange alphabet |
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Dyrcona |
rfrasur: Lots of combining characters. |
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rfrasur |
and they're latin-based |
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Dyrcona |
Yeah. |
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rfrasur |
interesting |
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rfrasur |
(which has nothing to do with your problem...rabbit trails) |
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