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09:06 Bmagic @coffee [someone]
09:06 * pinesol brews and pours a cup of Colombia Granja La Esperanza Geisha, and sends it sliding down the bar to berick
09:06 Bmagic @coffee [someone]
09:06 * pinesol brews and pours a cup of Sumatra Lintong, and sends it sliding down the bar to ejk
09:06 Bmagic @coffee [someone]
09:06 * pinesol brews and pours a cup of La Esmeralda Panama, and sends it sliding down the bar to jmurray-isl
09:06 Bmagic @coffee [someone]
09:06 * pinesol brews and pours a cup of Sumatra Aceh Pondok, and sends it sliding down the bar to csharp_
09:06 Bmagic @coffee [someone]
09:06 * pinesol brews and pours a cup of Colombia Pitalito Estate, and sends it sliding down the bar to Rogan
09:06 Bmagic @coffee [someone]
09:06 * pinesol brews and pours a cup of Ethiopia Yirgacheffe Koke, and sends it sliding down the bar to Rogan
09:06 Bmagic @coffee [someone]
09:06 * pinesol brews and pours a cup of Kenya Ndiara Full Flavor Roast, and sends it sliding down the bar to dluch
09:06 Bmagic Rogan twice! c'mon dice
09:06 Bmagic @coffee [someone]
09:06 * pinesol brews and pours a cup of Starlight Blend, and sends it sliding down the bar to pinesol
09:07 Bmagic lol! I don't think I've ever seen it serve itself
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09:53 * jmurray-isl is enjoying a cup of Colombia Jairo Arcila Lychee from Onyx Coffee as an experiment.
09:53 jmurray-isl It's not for everyone, but it's growing on me.
09:57 redavis jmurray-isl++
09:57 redavis No Quill?
09:58 jmurray-isl Quills' offerings have been fairly limited lately.  I've been reaching out more to more reknown national roasters like Onyx or Black & White.
09:58 redavis Nice
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11:52 Dyrcona Maybe you've already seen this, but I discovered that renewing an item while the autorenew process is running for that circulation leads to the autorenew event getting an error state with no error output. We've had 10 of these since April 20, so it doesn't happen that often, but it does happen.
11:54 * mmorgan has not observed that, but admittedly, has never looked :)
11:56 Dyrcona We just changed our schedule for autorenew to spread them out throughout the day, so I've been looking at them off and on for the past two weeks. I noticed some error events, so I had a look.
11:57 Dyrcona I looked one of the circulations up and noticed that the stop_fines_time coincided with the a/t run... Well, wait a minute... I should check the type of renewal.
11:58 Dyrcona I might not have discovered anything special. It could still be getting errors for no apparent reason.
12:02 Dyrcona I think my hypothesis holds for some of them at least. Two of them have a stop_fines of checkin, the others all have stop fines of renew, but the various renewal fields are all "false." Which is interesting..... (Also there should be 1 renewal field with an enum type, but that's an opinion.)
12:05 Dyrcona So, maybe there is a bug where items can get renewed without the appropriate renewal field being set on the circulation, or does that appear on the new circulation? /me checks.
12:05 mmorgan Dyrcona: I believe that would be on the new circulation.
12:07 mmorgan Old circ would get a stop_fines of checkin. New circ would get a parent_circ, and appropriate renewal field set.
12:08 Dyrcona mmorgan: You are correct, and I have not discovered anything other than autorenew errors without reason still, even though he renewal happens. Other than the checkins, these were all auto_renewals.
12:08 Dyrcona Old circ has a stop fines of RENEW.
12:08 mmorgan Oh, right! RENEW.
12:12 Dyrcona I'm back where I started with autorenew events getting an error state with no error output, and precious little information in the logs.
12:13 Dyrcona Granted there are not very many, and we have fewer problems with it since we split them up.
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14:34 Dyrcona Pretty much every case of a "missed" autorenewal, i.e. a circulation with a due date in the range of the autorenew event delay and having autorenew_remaining > 0 / not null, has had the due date messed with by staff. Either during or after the checkout, i.e. the due date does not match what it should be based on the duration rule. I most cases it looks like staff were using a fixed due date during checkout.
14:35 Dyrcona Well, that's every case of a missed autorenewal since we changed the schedule.
14:35 Dyrcona Looks like that problem was resolved.
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16:59 csharp_ @band add Cars On Fire
16:59 pinesol csharp_: Band 'Cars On Fire' added to list
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