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08:54 csharp_ I'm now able to 1) create a login in the UI 2) tend to pending moderation requests in the UI
08:55 csharp_ not yet able to get into the admin UI
08:55 csharp_ (mailman)
08:55 csharp_ also, people can register for lists without creating a login
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09:17 mantis for those who use age hold protection is '1 week' an appropriate value under age interval within the db/GUI grid?
09:18 Bmagic csharp_++ # It’s not the destination that matters, it’s the journey.
09:19 Bmagic mantis: it's usually 6 months for our libraries, but 1 week is fine too if that's what they want
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09:25 mantis Bmagic: thank you I'm just doing it to test and wasn't sure if the values were valid for it to work
09:25 mantis I don't see a week example so figure I ask
09:25 mantis Bmagic++
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09:29 Dyrcona mantis: https://www.postgresql.org/docs/current/dat​atype-datetime.html#DATATYPE-INTERVAL-INPUT
09:29 Bmagic mantis: that value can be anything as far as testing goes. I don't think that 1 week will break Evergreen's logic
09:29 mantis Dyrcona++
09:31 Dyrcona Any valid interval at all should work. Some make more sense than others. Anything less than a day would likely make no sense for age hold protection.
09:33 Dyrcona Negative intervals are also a bad idea as it would have the opposite of the desired effect, unless the code does an abs() somewhere.
09:33 * Dyrcona wonders if a negative value would actually work to turn on age hold protection on older items.
09:35 Dyrcona I also wonder if there is a use case for letting something fill remote holds for a year and then it doesn't.
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10:33 sandbergja Good morning!  I've rebuilt the 3.14.4 tarballs (as 3.14.4a), since the originals were missing the web client.  Could somebody please upload them to the lupin webserver?  They are at https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/11Rkw​TrZeaIFqMisaUOHEa33aEffLW3wM?usp=drive_link
10:39 sandbergja s/tarballs/tarball and md5sum/
10:44 abneiman sandbergja++
10:44 abneiman as soon as it's on lupin I can update LP, downloads, etc.
10:46 sandbergja abneiman++
11:03 csharp_ I missed my signoff on my last pushes to rel_3_15 and main - any way to force an amendment?
11:07 pinesol News from commits: LP2090873 Show report template documentation URLs <https://git.evergreen-ils.org/?p=E​vergreen.git;a=commitdiff;h=61681a​92b856b6ba5e34a1e875df6601acf66694>
11:07 pinesol News from commits: LP1836908: Improve EDI file retrieval <https://git.evergreen-ils.org/?p=E​vergreen.git;a=commitdiff;h=f80042​746abf5c3402529659d87cca225f24fd98>
11:12 Dyrcona csharp_: No, you can't force push to main. No one can, not even I.
11:12 Dyrcona What I mean, by "not even I," is that not even the gitadmins are allowed to force push to main.
11:13 Dyrcona The gitadmins can force push in some repos, but not that one.
11:21 csharp_ that's okay, we'll all live
11:22 Dyrcona yeahp. There were a couple of times that I wished I could force push over some things.
11:29 sleary sometimes working out in the open is a bit too out in the open, and that's okay
11:30 csharp_ JBoyer: curious about bug 2097308 - I was planning to test on a VM later and then realized how very EOL buster is and I'm wondering if this should be a site-specific thing rather than an EG commit?
11:31 pinesol Launchpad bug 2097308 in Evergreen "Fix Debian Buster Install" [Low,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/2097308
11:31 csharp_ open to being persuaded if buster is in heavy use
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11:37 pinesol News from commits: LP#1951024 Hourly Checkouts get marked as overdue, even though they are not <https://git.evergreen-ils.org/?p=E​vergreen.git;a=commitdiff;h=9e02cf​c75a95893b0605c2605e8f81f85db9c410>
11:37 pinesol News from commits: LP2097313: Keep PostgreSQL's key in another pocket <https://git.evergreen-ils.org/?p=E​vergreen.git;a=commitdiff;h=17a2f5​efdd814a08a685b6c337f0688f0c7cd5ca>
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12:07 pinesol News from commits: LP2097140: Add default max_backup_queue values <https://git.evergreen-ils.org/?p=E​vergreen.git;a=commitdiff;h=6a31d4​7c2e459ad4e71d03f27a35b309cab998ed>
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12:21 JBoyer csharp_, buster is old, but one reason I that fix interests me is that the issue isn't that Debian decided that we can't install on buster anymore, but PostgreSQL.
12:21 JBoyer If we want to drop buster support that's one thing, but I don't care for Pg deciding for us that it doesn't work anymore and us just having to react to that.
12:22 JBoyer This patch doesn't fully change that, but can at least be a template to keep an oldoldstable install working until we decide to drop it ourselves
12:25 JBoyer (well, "deciding for us" = making a change that we don't react to properly, but still, Pg changed something and buster installs stop.)
12:37 pinesol News from commits: Docs Resolves LP#2102109 <https://git.evergreen-ils.org/?p=E​vergreen.git;a=commitdiff;h=69e9ff​6a49c939cd25e8bd89b546c6be3df2b313>
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12:43 mantis my first commit T___T
12:43 mantis er core commit
12:43 mantis whatever
12:43 jeffdavis mantis++
12:43 jihpringle7 mantis++
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12:47 sleary mantis++
12:51 Dyrcona mantis++
12:52 Dyrcona unbuntu-- laptop-- # Froze up on me and had to power it off with the button.
12:52 mantis Dyrcona++ for the help
12:53 Dyrcona You're most welcome, and maybe we could improve the instructions a bit.
12:54 sleary Bmagic you know how we've been chasing our tails trying to figure out why Linda and Eva couldn't see translated grid columns? bug 2042915 -- see last comment. I am headdesking a lot right now.
12:54 pinesol Launchpad bug 2042915 in Evergreen "Column headers show as untranslated in Czech staff client" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/2042915
12:58 sleary (... whoops, that was not quite right... force push... okay, now I think it's right)
13:04 Bmagic sleary: yes....
13:05 Bmagic I can put that patch on bugsquash this afternoon
13:06 sleary awesome!
13:06 sleary I'm going to go through the IDL at some point, but I can't do that today
13:07 Bmagic sleary++
13:14 csharp_ mantis++
13:14 csharp_ JBoyer: sounds sane - I'll test it and push if it passes muster
13:14 JBoyer csharp_++
13:14 csharp_ (sure it does, but, you know)
13:24 csharp_ it took me way too long to find https://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/archive/10.13​.0/amd64/iso-cd/debian-10.13.0-amd64-netinst.iso
13:27 csharp_ ah, the old blue gray and red of the debian installer
13:37 pinesol News from commits: LP2095021 Return columns to record buckets <https://git.evergreen-ils.org/?p=E​vergreen.git;a=commitdiff;h=913147​82c87ab8caec8d32e0140d622f4e45e5f2>
13:41 csharp_ bug confirmed, now for the fix
13:53 csharp_ argh - clashing with bug 2097313
13:53 pinesol Launchpad bug 2097313 in Evergreen "Install pgdg signing key in preferred location" [Low,Fix committed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/2097313
13:54 csharp_ it's no biggie though, just means I need to re-test
14:06 csharp_ ok, all good
14:07 pinesol News from commits: LP2097308: Use PostgreSQL apt archive when necessary <https://git.evergreen-ils.org/?p=E​vergreen.git;a=commitdiff;h=19cee1​57080257422acc41dbe2bd78e438246ccd>
14:18 abneiman hi all, has anyone gotten sandbergja 's files up on lupin (10:30am ET upthread)? If not I can poke someone over here
14:36 Dyrcona abneiman: I don't think anyone has. I can do it in a minute, though.
14:36 abneiman Dyrcona++
14:36 abneiman thank you!
14:37 pinesol News from commits: Docs: Long Overdue Reactor Info <https://git.evergreen-ils.org/?p=E​vergreen.git;a=commitdiff;h=9d2e24​5b6814bdf5aa7082810f4b72b151bcb4f7>
14:49 Dyrcona sandbergja++ abneiman++
14:49 Dyrcona I uploaded the files and updated the downloads page. I'll check the email page while I'm signed in. Bmagic said some of the links were broken.
14:52 Dyrcona Rogan++
14:52 Dyrcona Looks like he updated the mailing lists page already.
14:52 Rogan yep, I'll go through and add more specifics including that the google groups admins can be contacted for some of them.
14:54 Bmagic I updated evergreen-ils.org communication page yesterday. The link that's broken is on this page (for example) https://list.evergreen-ils.org/mailman3/list​s/evergreen-general.list.evergreen-ils.org/
14:54 Bmagic see the little hyperlinked "here" text "Archives for the Open-ILS-General list are available here."
14:56 Dyrcona That sentence could be removed since there's a big Archives link below.
14:57 Bmagic I agree
14:57 Bmagic unless it was intended to point to the mailman2 archives
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15:03 abneiman blog posted & listserv notice sent
15:03 abneiman gmcharlt++ sandbergja++ Dyrcona++
15:07 pinesol News from commits: Add 3.15 to antora <https://git.evergreen-ils.org/?p=E​vergreen.git;a=commitdiff;h=730513​fbf0f8516a3a4dfaf704ee0e8d0a5bcc19>
15:12 csharp_ Bmagic: Dyrcona: we do need to set up the old archives somehow - that's on my to-do
15:12 csharp_ they're still there, just not available via Apache at the moment
15:12 Dyrcona csharp_++
15:13 Dyrcona I might be able to help out.
15:13 csharp_ Dyrcona: feel free
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15:26 Bmagic sleary: that translation patch is up on https://bugsquash.mobiusconsort​ium.org/eg2/cs-CZ/staff/splash but I'm not so sure I have it setup correctly because all of the cards are still in English
15:27 sleary Bmagic cards on the splash page are a whole separate problem; this is about grids in the admin pages. My wifi died just as I was about to point out that I added a second commit to that branch; did you catch it?
15:27 sandbergja abneiman++ gmcharlt++ Dyrcona++
15:29 sleary Bmagic three URLs to test: https://bugsquash.mobiusconsortium.org/eg2/cs​-CZ/staff/admin/server/authority/control_set https://bugsquash.mobiusconsortium.org/​eg2/cs-CZ/staff/cat/vandelay/match_sets https://bugsquash.mobiusconsortium.org/​eg2/cs-CZ/staff/admin/booking/resource
15:30 sleary Controlling Authority Fields, Match Set ID, and Overbook, respectively
15:37 pinesol News from commits: LP2106057 Do not show open_in_new icon on images <https://git.evergreen-ils.org/?p=E​vergreen.git;a=commitdiff;h=d945ab​98027598b638b842df2ef9d01410c0a821>
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15:47 Bmagic sleary: those look translated to me
15:48 sleary \o/
15:49 Bmagic (pach applied), I suppose other test servers don't have those words translated... butternut. Just tried, that server doesn't have the additional languages installed.
15:49 Bmagic maybe if I reverted the patch, I wouldn't see czech language on those pages?
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15:57 sleary Bmagic probably. (Sorry I can't look; I'm on the thinnest of data connections atm)
15:57 Bmagic cool
16:07 pinesol News from commits: LP2040183 Form labels for patron survey answers <https://git.evergreen-ils.org/?p=E​vergreen.git;a=commitdiff;h=0d1fec​8082165b2210551386db0dc1d5007bb92f>
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16:30 sandbergja feedback_fest++
16:31 sandbergja I look away for an hour or 2, and I come back to see a huge list of launchpad notifications.  ANd I have some pretty strict filters on those notifications too!
16:31 Bmagic the lesson here is: never look away
16:32 sandbergja heh
16:33 Dyrcona I was thinking that keeping up with commits has been almost a full time job today.
17:08 pinesol News from commits: LP2103567 modal form label and status cleanup <https://git.evergreen-ils.org/?p=E​vergreen.git;a=commitdiff;h=6c2ff5​aa4f23388700e7130e6b472d5387313b79>
17:08 pinesol News from commits: LP2085844 Org-select keyboard, focus, & scrolling <https://git.evergreen-ils.org/?p=E​vergreen.git;a=commitdiff;h=62002e​41e6c13144cfedf2e233f6025abba2303d>
17:08 pinesol News from commits: LP2085844 Scroll focused combobox option into view <https://git.evergreen-ils.org/?p=E​vergreen.git;a=commitdiff;h=4592b8​d034178759a81fcf26f5d2fabd513a4bfc>
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19:08 pinesol News from commits: LP2074112 follow-up: fix two unit tests <https://git.evergreen-ils.org/?p=E​vergreen.git;a=commitdiff;h=38b073​a3464b5cdee430dfb85d4eb80092c77ff2>
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21:07 sleary sandbergja++ #unit tests
21:07 sleary sandbergja we will have IDL and dialog test fixes shortly
21:10 sandbergja sleary++

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