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08:35 csharp_ terranm shared this heads up re: our current method of SMS notices: https://www.att.com/support/​article/wireless/KM1061254/
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09:03 JBoyer I suppose that writing has been on the wall for a bit.
09:18 csharp_ yeah
09:19 csharp_ those who aren't already using kenstir's app should know it has push notifications now
09:19 csharp_ better than texting anyway in my view
09:20 jeff And I remain happy to help with anyone interested in using a non-SMTP-gateway based method of sending SMS messages, though I understand some people have volume that makes that a budget concern.
09:26 Bmagic we should try and merge bug 1667080
09:26 pinesol Launchpad bug 1667080 in Evergreen "Hold SMS - New Reactor - flowroute" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1667080
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09:55 jeff or a version of something similar.
09:55 jeff I'll take a look at that branch again.
09:58 jeff guessing there will be more interest now. i think Stompro and I have been suggesting this for a while, but I know a lot of people opted to go with different solutions in recent years.
10:00 jeff since Stompro and I are pretty much set with how we're doing things, I'd be interested in hearing if any others are interested in collaborating on something that will have wider applicability. It's always a challenge to design something that will work for others if others aren't interested in having those conversations yet. :-)
10:23 csharp_ if there are ways to test without subscribing to things, that makes it easier, but that's a common situation with anything touching 3rd party stuff
10:31 jeff agreed! and yes, for something like this testing can be accomplished a few different ways, either low cost/effort or no cost (relying on the existing test accounts of others).
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14:34 pinesol News from commits: Revert "LP#2100807: (follow-up) fix lint" - follow-up fix <https://git.evergreen-ils.org/?p=E​vergreen.git;a=commitdiff;h=df8de0​89258bac5a7430caddaa512d2e254096f7>
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15:27 Rogan does anyone know what the status of the mailing list signups are? we're getting a few messages a week to the feedback email on it.
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15:47 sleary Rogan: http://irc.evergreen-ils.org/​evergreen/2025-04-01#i_575130
15:48 sleary I believe csharp_ is still looking at the web interface issue
15:48 Rogan sleary++
15:48 Rogan okay, we're getting enough that I'm going to make a reusable snippet for feedback emails
15:58 csharp_ Rogan: yeah... it's on my to-do - been a roller coaster of a week
15:59 csharp_ @who wants libraries to continue existing?
15:59 pinesol ejk wants libraries to continue existing.
15:59 ejk It's true
15:59 csharp_ ejk++
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16:00 csharp_ one of those "Lemon, it's Wednesday" weeks for sure
16:02 Dyrcona :)
16:04 Dyrcona Rogan: Signing up via email to the lists works. Maybe that could be added a FAQ on the website somewhere?
16:04 pinesol News from commits: lp2092226 Navbar_Menu_Icons_Visible_On_Print <https://git.evergreen-ils.org/?p=E​vergreen.git;a=commitdiff;h=9ef0fa​4e14c446896295556f095f2c026d758a9c>
16:04 pinesol News from commits: LP#2065913: Don't forcibly forget our hold-target patron <https://git.evergreen-ils.org/?p=E​vergreen.git;a=commitdiff;h=919a11​97a2dad5c2d7134f858cfd94446ae38ef4>
16:05 Dyrcona sleary++
16:05 Dyrcona My head is swimming from aurorenewal counts and spreadsheet errors.
16:05 Dyrcona csharp_++
16:06 Dyrcona @karma chsarp
16:06 pinesol Dyrcona: chsarp has neutral karma.
16:06 Dyrcona @karma chsarp_
16:06 pinesol Dyrcona: chsarp_ has neutral karma.
16:06 Dyrcona I almost made that typo. Thought I'd check.
16:22 Dyrcona Has anyone ever filtered events by a field on something other than the hook's core_type? In my case, I'd like to filter cirs by circ.usr.home_ou ids.
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16:24 Dyrcona It looks like at a minimum that I'll have to add usr to the environment. It's not present in this event.
16:25 Dyrcona It is for the notification event.
16:26 * Dyrcona checks the filter code. I haven't tried, yet, but I don't want to waste a day or two on it if it isn't possible.
16:26 * Dyrcona thinks he's done it before years ago, but might be hallucinating.
16:27 Bmagic IIRC mmorgan1 has provided several practical examples of action trigger json filters
16:27 Bmagic Maybe not applicable to this question exactly
16:33 Dyrcona I suspect that the filter may be applied before the environment is fetched, so this may not work. It's hard to tell from the code sometimes.
16:34 Dyrcona Yes, I'm pretty sure that the filter is applied before the environment is applied.
16:36 Dyrcona Well, I'll try with a sample group tomorrow on a test system to see what happens, but I'm pretty sure it won't work. I'll be pleased to be proven wrong, though.
16:37 Dyrcona Actually, I'm not even sure how I'd put it in the filter itself. It seemed obvious, but now that I think about it.... It's just a JSON query, though... bet I'd could join on usr and do it that way...
16:38 Dyrcona This will be interesting to see if I can make it work.
16:38 Dyrcona Probably need a subquery.
16:42 Bmagic I'll take your subquery and raise you a sub-subquery
16:44 Dyrcona Heh.
16:44 csharp_ ayyyyyyyy https://list.evergreen-ils.org/mailman3/
16:44 Dyrcona I wonder if I can trick it into fleshing fields....
16:44 Dyrcona csharp_++
16:44 csharp_ probably not done, but that's further than I've gotten
16:44 Bmagic csharp_++
16:45 Bmagic it looks so much better than mailman(2?)
16:45 sleary csharp_++
16:45 csharp_ yeah, mailman 2.1
16:45 mmorgan csharp_++ Shiny!!
16:45 sandbergja csharp_++
16:46 csharp_ I did  it all myself
16:46 sandbergja so slick
16:46 Bmagic OMG, look at the archives page
16:46 Bmagic there's an actual graph
16:46 sandbergja ha, you can thumbs up or thumbs down inidividual emails
16:47 Bmagic "popular" suddenly makes sense
16:47 csharp_ for the logs, I had to install mod_proxy_uwsgi and mod_proxy_http
16:47 csharp_ everything else was already configured ok, apparently :-)
16:48 csharp_ oh, and wait 2 weeks for ITS to open port 80 :-)
16:48 * Dyrcona shrugs....
16:48 Bmagic there's a broken link on each of the main lists page. Example: https://list.evergreen-ils.​org/pipermail/open-ils-dev/
16:49 Dyrcona Sometimes those things: missing modules or packages can take longer than you'd expect to figure out. It took me a while to figure out that I needed airscan and airprint to get my printer/scanner to work.
16:50 Dyrcona Bmagic: I think that's a different issue.
16:50 csharp_ I expect multiple brokennesses
16:50 csharp_ going to leave it there for today, though
16:51 Dyrcona Someone needs to update the main web pages....
16:51 Dyrcona I've got 8 minutes...
16:51 csharp_ anyone with sufficient admin skills and interest can get a server login and tinker if wanted
16:52 csharp_ though there's a bit of a learning curve vs. old school mailman
16:52 csharp_ the whole thing is running under a python venv and a mailman OS user
16:52 Dyrcona Well, I don't have my keepassxdb on a usb stick with me. It's at home because I wouldn't need it today. :)
16:54 Dyrcona venvs are cool.
16:54 Dyrcona -ish.
16:55 abneiman csharp_++
16:58 jeffdavis csharp_++
17:00 Dyrcona All right... I'm signing out.
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17:16 Bmagic I'll update the communication page on our website
17:17 Bmagic (https://evergreen-ils.org/c​ommunicate/mailing-lists/) I mean
17:23 Bmagic done - though, there was a section for "web team" - I'm not seeing a matching mailing list on our mailman listing page: https://list.evergreen-ils.org/mailman3/?count=25
17:25 sleary that team does not currently exist and its functions are being handled by Outreach
17:26 Bmagic maybe it's time to delete some sections from that page?
17:26 sleary probably
17:26 sleary there hasn't been a separate web team for several years
17:26 Bmagic I'll comment out the stuff that's "archive only" and the web team section
17:28 sleary Bmagic++
17:28 sleary for feedback fest spreadsheet folks, I should note that https://bugs.launchpad.net/evergreen/+bug/1770979 isn't just a translation issue; that's a new Angular interface
17:28 pinesol Launchpad bug 1770979 in Evergreen "Copy alert types are untranslated" [Undecided,Confirmed]
17:29 sleary (which was built to solve a translation issue)

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