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| 09:21 |
csharp_ |
FATAL: role "evergree" does not exist |
| 09:27 |
csharp_ |
huh - https://github.com/pgexperts/pgx_scripts/tree/master/duplicate_indexes finds 40 duplicate indexes in the PINES db |
| 09:28 |
csharp_ |
we're kind of a frankenstein, so it's not surprising |
| 09:28 |
csharp_ |
19 years, almost |
| 09:29 |
Dyrcona |
"evergren" usually isn't there either. :) |
| 09:33 |
csharp_ |
jeff++ # thanks for doing that inquiry - I had not yet |
| 09:34 |
csharp_ |
re: certs, I think we should have the project figure out a source for them while we reconsider our hosting options |
| 09:41 |
JBoyer |
I expect that Jeff's query was about setting it up to use certbot's dns challenege mode rather than http, which would also get around the ITS issue. |
| 09:42 |
csharp_ |
ah - yes, I was just looking at alternative ways to use LetsEncrypt |
| 09:42 |
csharp_ |
I haven't done much with it directly |
| 09:42 |
JBoyer |
(and I believe the project has the domain, registered with Google I think) |
| 09:42 |
csharp_ |
yeah, that's my impression too - just wanting to confirm |
| 09:44 |
csharp_ |
I would prefer a single wildcard cert that we propogate where needed |
| 09:44 |
JBoyer |
I've got it setup to use dns verification in a couple places since that's the only way they'll issue wildcard certs. I've glanced at name.com's API and I beliveve it's capable, but not ideal for this. (reads more like a reseller-facing API last I knew) |
| 09:46 |
csharp_ |
https://eff-certbot.readthedocs.io/en/latest/using.html#dns-plugins - not sure if any of those plugins would work |
| 09:46 |
Dyrcona |
I have to do manual renewal because my DNS provider doesn't have an API. |
| 09:47 |
csharp_ |
https://github.com/laonan/certbot-dns-name-com - old, but looks like it used to be possible |
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| 09:59 |
csharp_ |
...and, the ITS person I was dealing with is making it sound more reasonable that we can get approval for port 80, so all this may not be necessary in the current instance |
| 09:59 |
csharp_ |
I do think wildcards are the way to go, though |
| 09:59 |
csharp_ |
also, maybe moving to some place more neutral and owned fully by the project |
| 10:00 |
csharp_ |
but whatever - we're happy to host as long as it makes sense :-) |
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* Dyrcona |
uses wildcard certs. |
| 10:46 |
berick |
@who thinks [band] are a buncha wildcards? |
| 10:46 |
pinesol |
Christineb thinks 'Good good boss man' are a buncha wildcards. |
| 10:46 |
* berick |
needs a hobby |
| 10:48 |
Dyrcona |
bummer... Can't push to a remote repo 'cause I'm the wrong user and ssh key forwarding didn't survive sudo. |
| 10:49 |
csharp_ |
berick: https://www.happierhuman.com/weird-hobbies-wa2/ |
| 10:50 |
berick |
you had me at ostrich racing |
| 10:50 |
csharp_ |
for my part, I've gotten addicted to watching car restoration videos where people buy like a $1000 Toyota from 1998 off FB marketplace and transform it into a daily driver |
| 10:51 |
csharp_ |
if I had the right tools and environment at home, I would totally want to do something like that |
| 10:51 |
Dyrcona |
Hm... If I add my user to the other user's group, I should be able to cd there and push with that account. |
| 10:51 |
csharp_ |
also interested in tube guitar amp repair - lots of good channels on YT for that |
| 10:52 |
Dyrcona |
@quote add < berick > you had me at ostrich racing |
| 10:52 |
pinesol |
Dyrcona: The operation succeeded. Quote #252 added. |
| 10:52 |
csharp_ |
Dyrcona++ |
| 10:52 |
berick |
csharp_: ooh, i got a Orange tube amp fairly recently. had to get it repaired twice already :) sounds amazing though |
| 10:52 |
csharp_ |
nice! |
| 10:52 |
csharp_ |
I have a 68 Princeton reissue that I adore |
| 10:53 |
csharp_ |
hmm - Chess Boxing sounds pretty interesting: " It’s a hybrid sport where the contestants play a game of chess and then box – because why not, right?" |
| 10:53 |
Dyrcona |
Related to my "thinking out load" above: adduser is a bad name for a useradd wrapper. I sometimes [often] run the wrong one. |
| 10:53 |
berick |
oh yeah, i bet it sounds great |
| 10:54 |
berick |
Dyrcona: agreed |
| 10:54 |
csharp_ |
Dyrcona: +1` |
| 10:54 |
csharp_ |
+1 even |
| 10:54 |
Dyrcona |
Chess Fencing... |
| 10:54 |
csharp_ |
The Queen's Gambit would have been a totally different series with boxing added |
| 10:55 |
berick |
i live a block from a train. i could start spotting |
| 10:55 |
csharp_ |
berick: pretty sure that's not... yeah, okay |
| 10:56 |
Dyrcona |
Also had to add a safe directory, but that worked: 1. add myself to the other user's group. 2. cd to the repository. 3. Add the safe local directory exception. 4. git push. |
| 10:57 |
Dyrcona |
Hopefull pull with also work. |
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| 10:59 |
berick |
@band add Keeping Isopods |
| 10:59 |
pinesol |
berick: Band 'Keeping Isopods' added to list |
| 11:00 |
JBoyer |
Speaking of The Queen's Gambit, I found the existance of this pretty amusing: https://boardgamegeek.com/boardgame/346101/the-queens-gambit-the-board-game |
| 11:00 |
Dyrcona |
git pull works, too. |
| 11:03 |
csharp_ |
JBoyer: ha! |
| 11:04 |
Dyrcona |
JBoyer: That sounds interesting, but also like something that would get played a few times, then put away. |
| 11:05 |
Dyrcona |
I miss this game sometimes: https://boardgamegeek.com/boardgame/847/feudal |
| 11:11 |
csharp_ |
oh, I remember one of my friends having that game |
| 11:21 |
Dyrcona |
I lost mine years ago in a move. (I think.) There's a slim chance it is in a box in the attic. |
| 11:21 |
Dyrcona |
But, it may as well be lost in the latter case. ;) |
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| 11:48 |
jeff |
I wasn't aware that there was a cert issue, so no, that wasn't the reason behind my inquiry. :-) |
| 11:53 |
jeff |
If you're considering moving to the DNS-01 challenge method, with or without wildcards, I can say that there are options that do not require "the nameservers that host your parent zone" to support any kind of API or DNS automation. You might have to leave certbot behind, but you'll probably be happier for that also. |
| 11:56 |
jeff |
in a nutshell, you can delegate a subdomain (if you like, a subdomain used only for ACME DNS challenges) to any provider who has an API that is supported by your ACME client, then use a static CNAME (one per hostname or one per wildcard) to alias/delegate lookups. |
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| 12:17 |
jeff |
if port 80 is your only reason for moving away from HTTP-01, and you're in a bind and need a quick cert and can free up 443/tcp for a short time, TLS-ALPN-01 is your friend. There are multiple ACME clients that support it with very few dependencies. |
| 12:19 |
jeff |
https://github.com/acmesh-official/acme.sh is one I've had good experience with and has support for Let's Encrypt, though it defaults to ZeroSSL now (a CA which I do not have direct experience with) |
| 12:20 |
jeff |
https://github.com/dehydrated-io/dehydrated is another ACME client that supports the TLS-ALPN-01 challenge. I've not used it. It looks like it requires zsh and curl, in addition to some pretty expected things (sed, grep, awk, mktemp). |
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| 13:12 |
Dyrcona |
Hm.. I wonder if I need filters for the xml notices events to work? |
| 13:20 |
Dyrcona |
berick: It looks like my curbside offer notices are not triggering and I'm getting a hold ready for pickup instead. I know that's vague and you probably don't have an answer, but hat's what I've got to go on so far. |
| 13:20 |
Dyrcona |
Has anyone used the xml notices with curbside before? Do you have any pointers/code I could look at? |
| 13:33 |
berick |
Dyrcona: if it uses a different A/T hook (i.e. not hold.available or whatever) it will likely need coding. i haven't looked closely at curbside. |
| 13:35 |
Dyrcona |
The hooks are hold.offer_curbside and hold.confirm_curbside. These have code in trigger, but I'll see if it needs code in the xml notices. |
| 13:35 |
Dyrcona |
What I'm seeing is it looks like no curbside slot was created. |
| 13:36 |
Dyrcona |
That would be a problem with curbside in Evergreen or someone not using it correctly. |
| 13:46 |
berick |
ah, ok, hold.confirm_curbside has "ahr" core_type, so you may not need to change any code |
| 14:28 |
Dyrcona |
We're looking into it. Looks like we need an action.curbside entry, and I haven't figured out how that gets created, yet. |
| 14:29 |
Dyrcona |
Well, looks like the hook creates it for curbside offer creates it. |
| 14:29 |
Dyrcona |
bad editing... |
| 14:30 |
Dyrcona |
Well, wait a minute. It's the curbside slot reactor. |
| 14:31 |
Dyrcona |
OK. I think I need to run that a/t runner as well for my testing. |
| 14:33 |
Dyrcona |
It's an active event. I forget if that means the system creates it automatically or if I have to run a/t runner for it. |
| 14:35 |
Dyrcona |
OK. Looks like a/t runner does it. |
| 14:38 |
Dyrcona |
Still didn't get any output for the curbside offer notice. Maybe it's too soon for the delay? |
| 14:39 |
Dyrcona |
It's like the script is not even trying the curbside events, but I'm 99% certain that they are set up. |
| 14:40 |
Dyrcona |
Um, what? The lines were commented out. *hangs head in shame* |
| 14:45 |
Dyrcona |
I just ran it manually and it produced no output. I'll run it from cron and see what happens. |
| 15:01 |
Dyrcona |
It didn't run at all from cron. It should be running right now. |
| 15:02 |
Dyrcona |
2025-03-05 15:02:15 XML Notice: XML Notice query timed out |
| 15:02 |
Dyrcona |
When I ran it manually. |
| 15:06 |
Dyrcona |
Events are not being created and they are set to active, so I suppose new code is probably needed? |
| 15:13 |
berick |
Dyrcona: if you're using generate-notices.sh, do you have an entry for it, e.g. https://github.com/kcls/evergreen-pub/blob/release/3.11/KCLS/utility-scripts/xml-notices/generate-notices.sh#L204 |
| 15:14 |
berick |
then you have to invoke it w/ something like: https://github.com/kcls/evergreen-pub/blob/release/3.11/KCLS/utility-scripts/xml-notices/run-nightly-batch.sh#L28 |
| 15:16 |
Dyrcona |
berick: I do and I do. |
| 15:17 |
Dyrcona |
2025-03-05 15:09:08 cwmars-dev: Processing A/T Events for messagebee-curbside-confirm-sms |
| 15:17 |
Dyrcona |
2025-03-05 15:09:08 cwmars-dev: Generating XML notice file for for 2025-03-05T15:09:08 def=531 => curbside-confirmed |
| 15:17 |
Dyrcona |
2025-03-05 15:09:09 XML Notice: Found MessageBee Curbside confirmation SMS notification with core type 'acsp' and usr field 'usr' |
| 15:17 |
Dyrcona |
2025-03-05 15:09:09 XML Notice: Processing event definition 531 as curbside-confirmed |
| 15:17 |
Dyrcona |
2025-03-05 15:09:09 XML Notice: Collecting events between dates 2025-03-05T14:09:08 and 2025-03-05T15:09:08 |
| 15:17 |
Dyrcona |
2025-03-05 15:09:09 XML Notice: XML Notice query timed out |
| 15:17 |
Dyrcona |
2025-03-05 15:09:09 cwmars-dev: Notice generation failed for def=531 => curbside-confirmed |
| 15:17 |
Dyrcona |
That's the output. |
| 15:18 |
Dyrcona |
We can probably use the regular Evergreen events through the gateway. |
| 15:19 |
berick |
Dyrcona: i see, core type 'acsp' is not supported yet in create-notice-file.pl so that would need to be added |
| 15:20 |
berick |
for event retrieval and data fleshing |
| 15:21 |
Dyrcona |
I think we'll just go with the gateway. |
| 15:21 |
Dyrcona |
Only 1 member is still using these. |
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csharp_ |
jeff++ # thanks for the links! |
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redavis |
csharp_, I think the project owns evergreen-ils.org, but am not sure. |
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jeff |
csharp_: you're welcome! let me know if you'd like any more detail on the DNS-01 options. I didn't go into detail by default because it seemed a little off-topic. :-) |
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