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shulabramble |
This is your fifteen minute warning to the Developer's Meeting. |
| 14:47 |
berick |
hey all, just wanted to introduce ajarterburn (Aaron Arterburn). He recently joined the KCLS team as a developer for Evergreen, among other things. |
| 14:48 |
mmorgan |
Welcome ajarterburn! |
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shulabramble |
Welcome! |
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redavis |
woohoo! welcome ajarterburn! |
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shulabramble8 |
So that's how this is going to be. |
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shulabramble8 |
Eight minutes to Developer's Meeting! |
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redavis |
berick, has there been a proper Evergreen initiation for ajarterburn yet? |
| 14:56 |
ajarterburn |
Thank you. Good to meet you all virtually as well. |
| 14:56 |
berick |
redavis: heh, no. |
| 14:56 |
redavis |
tbh, I don't know what a "proper" initiation would be. |
| 14:57 |
berick |
you scared him! |
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Bmagic |
lol, I was going to say |
| 14:57 |
redavis |
I mean...sometimes that happens. |
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* redavis |
shrugs |
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mantis |
ajarterburn++ |
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shulabramble |
#startmeeting 2024-12-10 - Developer Meeting |
| 15:00 |
pinesol |
Meeting started Tue Dec 10 15:00:08 2024 US/Eastern. The chair is shulabramble. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. |
| 15:00 |
pinesol |
Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. |
| 15:00 |
pinesol |
The meeting name has been set to '2024_12_10___developer_meeting' |
| 15:00 |
shulabramble |
We're off to the races! |
| 15:00 |
shulabramble |
#topic Introductions |
| 15:01 |
shulabramble |
#info shulabramble = Shula Link, GCHRL |
| 15:01 |
Dyrcona |
#info Dyrcona = Jason Stephenson, CWMARS |
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sandbergja |
#info sandbergja = Jane Sandberg, PUL |
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abneiman |
#info abneiman = Andrea Buntz Neiman, Equinox |
| 15:01 |
berick |
#info berick Bill Erickson, KCLS |
| 15:01 |
redavis |
#info redavis = Ruth Frasur Davis, ECDI |
| 15:01 |
mantis |
#info mantis = Gina Monti, Bibliomation |
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briank |
#info briank = Brian Kennedy, BCLC |
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Stompro |
#info Stompro = Josh Stompro, LARL |
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mmorgan |
#info mmorgan = Michele Morgan, NOBLE |
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phasefx |
phasefx = Jason Etheridge, EOLI |
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sleary |
#info sleary = Stephanie Leary, Equinox |
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shulabramble |
People can keep introducing themselves as we get rolling |
| 15:03 |
shulabramble |
#topic Action Items from November's Meeting |
| 15:03 |
Bmagic |
#info Bmagic = Blake GH, MOBIUS |
| 15:03 |
shulabramble |
#topic eeevil will open a bug for cross-column stats targets |
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| 15:04 |
sleary |
eeevil is out, but I believe that will need to carry forward |
| 15:04 |
shulabramble |
#action eeevil will open a bug for cross-column stats targets |
| 15:05 |
shulabramble |
#topic gmcharlt - create a Git commit message type and update bug 2051946 |
| 15:05 |
pinesol |
Launchpad bug 2051946 in Evergreen "institute a Git commit message template" [Wishlist,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/2051946 - Assigned to Galen Charlton (gmc) |
| 15:06 |
shulabramble |
Is gmcharlt around or do we need to kick the can on his projects right now? |
| 15:06 |
abneiman |
I do not think gmcharlt is available right now |
| 15:07 |
shulabramble |
Okay, then |
| 15:07 |
shulabramble |
#action gmcharlt - create a Git commit message type and update bug 2051946 |
| 15:07 |
pinesol |
Launchpad bug 2051946 in Evergreen "institute a Git commit message template" [Wishlist,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/2051946 - Assigned to Galen Charlton (gmc) |
| 15:07 |
shulabramble |
#action waiting on gmcharlt for access to POEditor for git integration |
| 15:08 |
shulabramble |
#info sleary and sandbergja will report progress on test writing wiki pages next month |
| 15:08 |
sleary |
I've been out sick; please carry forward |
| 15:08 |
sleary |
(sorry sandbergja!) |
| 15:08 |
shulabramble |
Aww! Hope you're feeling better. |
| 15:08 |
sandbergja |
no problem! |
| 15:08 |
redavis |
Just throwing the agenda here for new people - https://wiki.evergreen-ils.org/doku.php?id=dev:meetings:2024-12-10 |
| 15:09 |
sandbergja |
one note: outside of what sleary and I were working on, I figured out how to run perl unit tests with the perl debugger |
| 15:09 |
shulabramble |
redavis++ thanks, I've had an interesting day and that slipped my mind. |
| 15:09 |
sandbergja |
and added my notes here in case they are useful for anyone: https://wiki.evergreen-ils.org/doku.php?id=dev:testing:debugging_perl_unit_tests |
| 15:09 |
shulabramble |
sandbergja++ |
| 15:09 |
sleary |
sandbergja++ |
| 15:09 |
berick |
sandbergja++ |
| 15:09 |
redavis |
shulabramble++ #no worries |
| 15:09 |
redavis |
sandbergja++ |
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Dyrcona |
related to what sandbergja said, I've been meaning to update documentation on debugging Perl services with Evergreen. We had a successful attempt during the hack-away. |
| 15:10 |
mmorgan |
sandbergja++ |
| 15:10 |
sandbergja |
Dyrcona++ |
| 15:10 |
shulabramble |
dyrcona++ |
| 15:10 |
sandbergja |
perl_debugger+- |
| 15:10 |
shulabramble |
the perl debugger is a morally neutral agent. |
| 15:10 |
redavis |
Dyrcona++ |
| 15:11 |
shulabramble |
#topic berick will work on a rollout plan for hatch update - bug 2076921 |
| 15:11 |
pinesol |
Launchpad bug 2076921 in Evergreen "Hatch: Chrome Extension Requires Redevelopment" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/2076921 - Assigned to Jeff Godin (jgodin) |
| 15:11 |
shulabramble |
berick want to discuss that when we get to the hatch updates section? |
| 15:11 |
berick |
either way |
| 15:12 |
berick |
sure |
| 15:12 |
shulabramble |
#topic sleary will make a new LP tag denoting bugs that involve string changes |
| 15:12 |
sleary |
whoops! on it |
| 15:13 |
shulabramble |
#action sleary will make a new LP tag denoting bugs that involve string changes |
| 15:13 |
redavis |
sleary++ |
| 15:13 |
shulabramble |
#topic revisit feasibility of automated testing for string changes |
| 15:13 |
shulabramble |
berick++ sleary++ |
| 15:15 |
shulabramble |
anything on this? |
| 15:16 |
abneiman |
tbh I don't recall whose action item that is |
| 15:16 |
shulabramble |
neither do i. |
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sleary |
sandbergja is that something we can add to our QA list? |
| 15:18 |
sandbergja |
Sure! Sounds fun |
| 15:18 |
shulabramble |
#action sandbergja and sleary will revisit feasibility of automated testing for string changes |
| 15:18 |
sleary |
sandbergja++ |
| 15:19 |
shulabramble |
sandbergja++ sleary++ |
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sandbergja |
sleary++ |
| 15:19 |
shulabramble |
#topic abneiman will poll concerning moving the developer's meeting from IRC to a different platform |
| 15:20 |
abneiman |
haven't done that, also out sick (and I did want to talk to you about that first shulabramble as the current convener of said meeting) |
| 15:20 |
shulabramble |
abneiman++ can do. i think you have my email? easiest way to handle talking for me right now. |
| 15:20 |
shulabramble |
hope you're feeling better as well. |
| 15:21 |
shulabramble |
#action abneiman will poll concerning moving the developer's meeting from IRC to a different platform |
| 15:21 |
shulabramble |
#topic it is okay to merge lp2055796, sandbergja and berick will attend |
| 15:21 |
abneiman |
shulabramble: yes I have your emial, thanks |
| 15:21 |
shulabramble |
zipping through this agenda at top speed. |
| 15:22 |
Dyrcona |
Lp 2055796 |
| 15:22 |
pinesol |
Launchpad bug 2055796 in Evergreen "Have github actions run pgtap tests for us" [Medium,Fix committed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/2055796 |
| 15:22 |
Dyrcona |
That's done. |
| 15:22 |
berick |
yeah |
| 15:23 |
shulabramble |
dyrcona++ berick++ |
| 15:23 |
Dyrcona |
Well, I think someone else did it. |
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redavis |
Dyrcona++ berick++ |
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Dyrcona |
berick++ sandbergja++ |
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shulabramble |
sandbergja++ is the merging party |
| 15:24 |
mmorgan |
sandbergja++ |
| 15:24 |
shulabramble |
#topic Updates |
| 15:24 |
shulabramble |
#topic Evergreen |
| 15:25 |
shulabramble |
#topic Release team members needed, signup https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1gZayHfF7qK0zwLMEAXt-PbKBMiAM_F6EZguqzIYceBY/edit?usp=sharing |
| 15:25 |
shulabramble |
#topic Point releases next week? |
| 15:25 |
Dyrcona |
Before we move on, I have an idea about the spreadsheet. |
| 15:25 |
shulabramble |
the floor is yours, Dyrcona |
| 15:25 |
abneiman |
yeah I also have words about Rel team before we move on |
| 15:25 |
Dyrcona |
Does anyone else think it would be useful to add a column for updating translations? |
| 15:25 |
abneiman |
yes |
| 15:25 |
redavis |
also yes |
| 15:25 |
mmorgan |
yes |
| 15:25 |
shulabramble |
yes |
| 15:26 |
Dyrcona |
OK. I'll add one after the meeting. Should it be two? one for lp and one for poeditor, or just 1 column per release? |
| 15:26 |
mmorgan |
Dyrcona++ for doing the translation pieces for the last point releases. |
| 15:26 |
shulabramble |
dyrcona++ |
| 15:26 |
redavis |
also, I think it'd be worthwhile to make a copy of the spreadsheet that's owned by someone active in the EG community or with an evergreen-ils.org something. |
| 15:27 |
shulabramble |
redavis++ |
| 15:27 |
Dyrcona |
I have a copy, but it's out of date. |
| 15:27 |
redavis |
that'd require some relinking in places. |
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* mmorgan |
would vote for 2 columns, since they are two different processes. |
| 15:27 |
redavis |
mmorgan++ |
| 15:27 |
redavis |
+1 to 2 columns |
| 15:27 |
abneiman |
In the past, Dan Wells has been amenable to transferring ownership of things - does someone want to reach out to him? |
| 15:28 |
abneiman |
I can do so if no one else wants to. |
| 15:28 |
redavis |
abneiman++ |
| 15:28 |
shulabramble |
abneiman++ |
| 15:29 |
jeff |
I think we'd have better luck reaching out to the individual from Dan's former employer who has recently participated in the list / sought advice from the list. |
| 15:29 |
Dyrcona |
I think this might be on his personal Google account. I'm not entirely sure, though. |
| 15:29 |
abneiman |
oh, is Dan no longer with Calvin College? It does appear to be on a calvin.edu domain |
| 15:29 |
abneiman |
It = the spreadsheet owner |
| 15:30 |
JBoyer |
Being a GSheet, I think we're just a "Make a Copy" away from solving the problem |
| 15:30 |
Dyrcona |
Yes, Dan is no longer with Calvin College. |
| 15:30 |
redavis |
JBoyer, that was my thinking |
| 15:30 |
abneiman |
yeah, then I agree with making a copy - does someone with an evergreen-ils.org email want to do that? |
| 15:31 |
redavis |
Just get through the point releases and then make a copy and relink things |
| 15:31 |
* redavis |
can do it |
| 15:31 |
shulabramble |
redavis++ |
| 15:31 |
redavis |
I'll do it prior to two weeks from today |
| 15:31 |
abneiman |
honestly, if you want to be really lazy, put a link to the new sheet at the top of the old one with an admonishment to update links |
| 15:32 |
jeff |
"make a copy" is fine, but keep in mind that it loses all revision history. |
| 15:32 |
redavis |
Oh, that's a good idea. But will also make sure that any wiki links point to the new one. |
| 15:32 |
jeff |
(which may or may not matter here) |
| 15:32 |
redavis |
jeff, true. We'll link it up so that that's there until the original burns up in the sun. |
| 15:32 |
abneiman |
so speaking of that sheet, and since many of you are looking at it |
| 15:33 |
abneiman |
3.15 is in need of volunteers for both more-technical and less-technical roles |
| 15:33 |
abneiman |
I'm aiming to have a kickoff meeting before Christmas hahahahahaha so ... please sign up! |
| 15:34 |
redavis |
We also need some tarball builders/testers for next week (up to three builders, and one with lupin access) |
| 15:34 |
shulabramble |
abneiman++ |
| 15:34 |
abneiman |
and to anticipate the question, I've already shaken the Equinox tree; you're getting me & phasefx this time around but no one else is available for this release |
| 15:34 |
abneiman |
yes, also point releases next weel |
| 15:35 |
Dyrcona |
I can't promise my availability next week, so we're likely going to need some new faces for lupin access, translations, and at least 1 core committer. |
| 15:36 |
redavis |
Dyrcona++ |
| 15:36 |
shulabramble |
dyrcona++ |
| 15:37 |
phasefx |
I can do whatever core committer stuff is needed, with some moral support |
| 15:37 |
shulabramble |
phasefx++ |
| 15:37 |
redavis |
phasefx++ |
| 15:37 |
sandbergja |
phasefx++ |
| 15:38 |
phasefx |
Hand holding, pep talk, chocolate... |
| 15:38 |
sandbergja |
I can build and test a tarball |
| 15:38 |
shulabramble |
sandbergja++ |
| 15:38 |
* mmorgan |
can probably help with point releases next week |
| 15:38 |
redavis |
I'll call a meeting for the point releases once some more spots are filled out. So, email imminent today or tomorrow for that. |
| 15:38 |
sandbergja |
mmorgan++ |
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redavis |
And I see mantis in there as well. |
| 15:39 |
shulabramble |
mmorgan++ redavis++ |
| 15:39 |
abneiman |
phasefx++ sandbergja++ mmorgan++ |
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Dyrcona |
redavis++ mmorgan++ |
| 15:39 |
abneiman |
redavis++ mantis++ |
| 15:39 |
Dyrcona |
mantis++ |
| 15:39 |
shulabramble |
mantis++ |
| 15:39 |
Bmagic |
phasefx++ sandbergja++ mmorgan++ mantis++ |
| 15:40 |
Bmagic |
mdriscoll++ |
| 15:41 |
shulabramble |
moving on, |
| 15:41 |
shulabramble |
#topic Hatch |
| 15:41 |
shulabramble |
berick, the floor is yours. |
| 15:42 |
berick |
i'm going to upload the new version to the Chrome store this week |
| 15:42 |
berick |
prob tomorrow |
| 15:42 |
berick |
it will not be set to auto-publish |
| 15:42 |
berick |
review may take a few days |
| 15:42 |
berick |
if all is well, I'll publish it next Tuesday morning |
| 15:43 |
redavis |
berick++ |
| 15:43 |
berick |
we now have at least 3 people who have access |
| 15:43 |
Bmagic |
berick++ |
| 15:43 |
mmorgan |
berick++ |
| 15:43 |
sandbergja |
berick++ |
| 15:44 |
berick |
and I think that's it |
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abneiman |
berick++ |
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shulabramble9 |
berick++ |
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jeff |
berick++ |
| 15:45 |
shulabramble9 |
Let's see if i can continue running the meeting or have to wait to get my name back. |
| 15:46 |
Bmagic |
lol |
| 15:46 |
shulabramble9 |
#topic Launchpad Status as of Noon Eastern |
| 15:46 |
shulabramble9 |
Wall of text incoming! |
| 15:46 |
shulabramble9 |
#topic Launchpad Status (as of noon Eastern) |
| 15:46 |
shulabramble9 |
#topic Snapshot |
| 15:47 |
shulabramble9 |
#info Open Bugs - 3157 |
| 15:47 |
shulabramble9 |
#info Pullrequests - 97 |
| 15:47 |
shulabramble9 |
#info Signedoff - 7 |
| 15:47 |
shulabramble9 |
#info Needswork - 84 |
| 15:47 |
shulabramble9 |
#info Needstestplan - 2 |
| 15:47 |
shulabramble9 |
#info Needsrebase - 24 |
| 15:47 |
shulabramble9 |
#topic Updates Since Last Meeting |
| 15:47 |
shulabramble9 |
#info Bugs Added - 82 |
| 15:47 |
shulabramble9 |
#info Pullrequest tag Added - 30 |
| 15:47 |
shulabramble9 |
#info Signedoff tag Added - 16 |
| 15:47 |
shulabramble9 |
#info Needswork tag Added - 3 |
| 15:47 |
shulabramble9 |
#info Needstestplan tag Added - 0 |
| 15:47 |
shulabramble9 |
#info Needsrebase tag Added - 0 |
| 15:47 |
shulabramble9 |
#info Fix Committed - 31 |
| 15:47 |
shulabramble9 |
#topic New Business |
| 15:48 |
jeff |
just in case, I just added your shulabramble9 client as a chair. |
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| 15:48 |
jeff |
hah, and now the old one's gone. |
| 15:48 |
shulabramble |
Look, this is just how my day is going. |
| 15:48 |
Bmagic |
jeff++ # that's what you get for helping, lol |
| 15:49 |
shulabramble |
I am utterly unsurprised. |
| 15:49 |
shulabramble |
jeff++ |
| 15:49 |
sleary |
sometimes Tuesdays are two Mondays in a trench coat. |
| 15:49 |
Bmagic |
haha |
| 15:49 |
mmorgan |
:) |
| 15:49 |
jeff |
agreed. |
| 15:49 |
shulabramble |
this Tuesday has been two Mondays with a blackjack |
| 15:50 |
berick |
heh |
| 15:50 |
shulabramble |
#topic Announcements |
| 15:50 |
shulabramble |
#info Next Meeting is 14 January 2025 |
| 15:51 |
shulabramble |
Anyone have anything else to announce? |
| 15:51 |
redavis |
shulabramble++ |
| 15:52 |
shulabramble |
then, coming in under an hour... |
| 15:52 |
shulabramble |
#endmeeting |
| 15:52 |
pinesol |
Meeting ended Tue Dec 10 15:52:23 2024 US/Eastern. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) |
| 15:52 |
pinesol |
Minutes: http://evergreen-ils.org/meetings/evergreen/2024/evergreen.2024-12-10-15.00.html |
| 15:52 |
pinesol |
Minutes (text): http://evergreen-ils.org/meetings/evergreen/2024/evergreen.2024-12-10-15.00.txt |
| 15:52 |
pinesol |
Log: http://evergreen-ils.org/meetings/evergreen/2024/evergreen.2024-12-10-15.00.log.html |
| 15:52 |
abneiman |
shulabramble++ |
| 15:52 |
mmorgan |
shulabramble++ |
| 15:52 |
berick |
shulabramble++ |
| 15:52 |
sleary |
shulabramble++ nicely done! |
| 15:52 |
briank |
shulabramble++ |
| 15:52 |
sandbergja |
shulabramble++ |
| 15:53 |
redavis |
csharp_, are you around? |
| 15:54 |
Bmagic |
shulabramble++ |
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Dyrcona |
shulabramble++ |
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| 16:00 |
shulabramble |
thanks y'all |
| 16:01 |
Bmagic |
you da bomb |
| 16:01 |
redavis |
shulabramble IS da bomb |
| 16:02 |
shulabramble |
thanks :) |
| 16:03 |
shulabramble |
and now i exit of my own free will finally! |
| 16:09 |
Dyrcona |
I added two columns and tried to make the headings fit. |
| 16:45 |
redavis |
Dyrcona++ |
| 16:49 |
redavis |
Time for me to peace out on this day where it's only 4:48 p.m. but looks like 8 p.m. Only 10ish more days until the solstice. Y'all be careful out there. |
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