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10:12 pinesol News from commits: LP2043045 - Stop Log Noise - QueryParser.pm pullup() <https://git.evergreen-ils.org/?p=E​vergreen.git;a=commitdiff;h=fc9d0e​f5b65e9ca69ac6a1b9cb60db3f22a70c5e>
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14:48 Dyrcona I think there's a bug in verify user password. It won't verify a non-hashed password.
14:52 Dyrcona Also, I love how other vendors think we can just "debug" Evergreen. Oh, and how Evergreen is "they/them," when in this case it's me...
15:01 Dyrcona Lp 2059035
15:01 pinesol Launchpad bug 2059035 in Evergreen "open-ils.actor.verify_user_password only works with hashed arguments" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/2059035
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15:13 pinesol News from commits: LP #1906859: Create carousels from items <https://git.evergreen-ils.org/?p=E​vergreen.git;a=commitdiff;h=26ab89​3556a5a145136f327c71f0bfd9c0281067>
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16:02 Rogan Dyrcona it kinds of shocks me given how widespread open source is that awareness of what it means is yet to penetrate many think spheres
16:25 kmlussier I was telling this to Dyrcona earlier today, but my daughter, who is now a CS major, was telling me yesterday that she would like to try to do some work on Evergreen in her spare time this summer. I'm now trying to figure out if there is a way for her to get familiar with the software without getting overwhelmed.
16:32 Dyrcona Not getting overwhelmed is the tricky part. I suggested that she sign up for the development mailing list, but we didn't have much time to talk about it.
16:32 Rogan the learning curve is real
16:33 Dyrcona And exponential.
16:33 kmlussier Rogan: Yup. I've been on that curve.
16:35 kmlussier I've been looking at the old wiki page for OPW to see what kind of tips we gave people to get started. Unfortunately, it's too late for her to get involved in that program or GSoC this year, but I told her to think about it for next year. They may have projects that offer a better on ramp.
16:36 Dyrcona Well, if someone wants to stick to interface or just the back end, it could be easier, and since JavaScript is more widely known than Perl, I'd recommend the user interface.
16:38 Rogan yeah, limiting scope helps
16:38 kmlussier Dyrcona: Heh, javascript is exactly what I was telling her to focus on yesterday. I always found tpac to be an easier entry point.
16:39 Dyrcona In the long run, there are more JavaScript than Perl jobs.
16:41 kmlussier Dyrcona: Her plan is to  be an independent game developer and not work for anyone. :)
16:41 Rogan a fine goal
16:42 Dyrcona Yeah, that is cool.
16:43 kmlussier I think so. I have no doubt she could do it. She's very driven.
16:43 kmlussier But I'm biased.
16:43 sleary kmlussier there is some stuff in newdevs that might be helpful: https://wiki.evergreen-ils.org/do​ku.php?id=newdevs:landscape:tree and also the August 24 UI group meeting went over how to find the right files: https://wiki.evergreen-ils.or​g/doku.php?id=community:ui_ig
16:44 kmlussier sleary: Excellent, thanks! That's an idea. Maybe I could encourage her to sit in on newdev meetings.
16:45 sleary We'd be delighted! There are some videos of past meetings that might help, like... Gina did one on setting up VSCode
16:49 kmlussier sleary: I don't know why I didn't start by looking at the newdevs area of the wiki. There is a lot of good stuff there.
16:49 kmlussier sleary++
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17:14 abneiman are we still doing point releases this month? spreadsheet here: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1gZayHfF7qK​0zwLMEAXt-PbKBMiAM_F6EZguqzIYceBY/edit?usp=sharing
17:14 abneiman this week, that is
17:16 abneiman I'm available to do notes / LP updates, but I'm off Thursday & Friday (though I may be able to poke in for community work one of those days)
17:19 kmlussier abneiman++
17:20 kmlussier Have a good evening #evergreen!
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