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08:44 kmlussier Good morning #evergreen!
08:44 kmlussier @coffee [someone]
08:45 * pinesol brews and pours a cup of Romance by Paradise, and sends it sliding down the bar to mantis
08:45 mantis @coffee kmlussier
08:45 * pinesol brews and pours a cup of Colombia Tolima Reynel Perez Micro-Lot, and sends it sliding down the bar to kmlussier
08:45 kmlussier Romance by Paradise? That's a coffee?
08:45 mantis kmlussier++ coffee++
08:45 kmlussier mantis: Thanks!
08:45 kmlussier @tea [someone]
08:45 * pinesol brews and pours a pot of Chamomile Lemon (Sweet Meadows), and sends it sliding down the bar to book` (http://ratetea.com/tea/numi/chamomile-lemon/504/)
08:47 * mmorgan wonders what Romance by Paradise coffee actually tastes like
08:50 kmlussier Sweet, round-toned aroma with distinct cherryish fruit and aromatic wood notes. Intense and complex in the cup; the cherry tones deepen and sweeten to dessert-wine complexity with complicating suggestions of dark chocolate, herb and flowers. The chocolate carries into a long, dry finish with continued hints of wood and Mediterranean herbs.
08:51 kmlussier NOBLE coffee suddenly feels dull next to that description.
08:51 Dyrcona In other words, it tastes like coffee.
08:52 kmlussier Dyrcona: I've never had coffee that tastes like flowers. Or wood.
08:52 Dyrcona I guarantee this one doesn't either.
08:54 mmorgan I would shy away from coffee with 'complicating suggestions.' There are enough of those in a general day without introducing more with the coffee.
08:54 kmlussier Alas, we may never know. The last review is from 2010, and this specific roast is now longer listed on the Paradise Roasters web site.
08:54 Dyrcona "Connoisseurship" has been demonstrated to be nonsense in numerous studies, mostly with wine. You remove the labels, tell them it some expensive stuff from some exotic place, and most "experts" will lapse melodic over Night Train.
08:54 kmlussier heh
08:54 kmlussier s/now longer/no longer
08:55 * mmorgan goes to get some plain green tea
08:56 * Dyrcona pretty much only drinks Newman's Own Organic Black Tea if I'm making it at home.
08:59 kmlussier Dyrcona: That's my tea of choice too.
08:59 Dyrcona kmlussier++
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09:10 * Dyrcona "sings" along with Axl Rose: "Loaded like a freight train....Flying like an aeroplane..."
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09:34 Dyrcona needsdiscussion: The tag where bugs go to die.
09:40 Bmagic Dyrcona++ # lol
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10:02 sandbergja Dyrcona++
10:03 sandbergja Thanks for doing all that research into the constraint ALTER TABLE performance
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10:11 berick heh, what kind of coffee you having, Dyrcona? :)
10:11 Dyrcona sandbergja: Thanks for bringing up the alternative. I could go either way.
10:11 Dyrcona berick: Actually the Newman's Own tea I mentioned earlier.
10:12 berick huh didn't know they made tea
10:12 Dyrcona I make one iced before I leave the house and bring it to the office.
10:12 csharp_ Dyrcona: if you're still up for it, I'll kick the SFTP EDI thing back to you
10:12 csharp_ I was working on it and lost my changes so now I'm sad
10:13 Dyrcona csharp_: OK. I'll take a look next week or maybe even tomorrow.
10:13 csharp_ Dyrcona++
10:14 csharp_ needsdiscussion definitely has the scent of just kicking the can down the road
10:14 Dyrcona @decide not null or not valid
10:14 pinesol Dyrcona: go with not null
10:14 Dyrcona There we go! pinesol has decided.
10:16 kmlussier csharp_: Aw, that's too bad. It reminds me of  the time I typed up a final college paper on my Smith Corona word processor and accidentally kicked the power cord before hitting save. There was no auto-save on those things.
10:17 Dyrcona kmlussier: Ouch!
10:20 csharp_ kmlussier: oof
10:20 csharp_ kmlussier: in this case, I was cleaning up and prematurely deleted a vim swapfile
10:20 * csharp_ knows better
10:21 csharp_ in other news, God bless Sufjan Stevens
10:23 Dyrcona This was the pinnacle of writing technology: https://i.pinimg.com/736x/e3/21/42/e​321426e976c6a805fd26bd1e1f86e98.jpg
10:23 Dyrcona The Olivetti Lettera 32.
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10:24 Dyrcona Though GNU Emacs is pretty cool, too. :)
10:26 sandbergja There are two js functions named isXUL() in the javascript (defined in Open-ILS/web/js/dojo/openils/XUL.js and Open-ILS/web/opac/common/js/opac_utils.js).  Does it safe to remove them and their references?
10:26 kmlussier This is my old Smith Corona. I just got rid of it about a year ago. https://photos.app.goo.gl/MeQDHimxL3QGRSo26
10:26 csharp_ sandbergja: they have to go sometime
10:27 Dyrcona What csharp_ said.
10:27 sleary sandbergja: I think so. see bug 1928126
10:27 pinesol Launchpad bug 1928126 in Evergreen "Remove legacy XUL staff client code" [Wishlist,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1928126
10:27 csharp_ kmlussier: you mean you didn't smash it with a hammer that day of the college final?
10:28 csharp_ Dyrcona: that's a beautiful typewriter
10:28 sandbergja sleary++
10:29 csharp_ aesthetics matter, I don't care what anyone else says
10:29 kmlussier csharp_: No, I just broke down and cried.  The tear stains on my face were probably helpful when I begged for an extension.
10:30 sandbergja gmcharlt++
10:30 sandbergja looks like his branch already gets rid of a lot of references
10:30 Dyrcona csharp_: Yes, I should see if it is still around next time I visit my stepfather and bring it to my house.
10:32 Dyrcona I recall trying to get a new ribbon for it back in the late '90s and not being able to find one.
10:32 csharp_ kmlussier: :-(
10:32 csharp_ Dyrcona: I would bet you can find one now (back to the old things are new again discussion)
10:33 Dyrcona Yeah.
10:34 csharp_ my mom gave me her (manual) Smith Corona she used in grad school when I was in college - I used to type poetry on it while smoking and thought I was freaking Jack Kerouac
10:34 Dyrcona :)
10:35 Dyrcona That Olivetti was my mother's in college, and it came to me when I was in high school. I learned to type on it. We also had an electric Smith Corona back in the day.
10:35 JBoyer I've always loved the look of old Royals and Underwoods, but not enough to bring one home.
10:35 Dyrcona It was that color, too. I hope it's still around, but may have been sold/discarded in a move at some point.
10:37 Dyrcona IBM Selectrics are pretty cool. I swear computer printing began when an engineer in Armonk figured out how to connect a Selectric to a main frame back in the '50s. :)
10:38 csharp_ haha
10:38 csharp_ @blame whoever that was
10:39 pinesol csharp_: whoever that was WILL PERISH UNDER MAXIMUM DELETION! DELETE. DELETE. DELETE!
10:39 jeff local used/rare bookstore hosts a type-in each year. I think they have 50 or so typewriters show up these days.
10:56 csharp_ @band add window.IAMBROWSER
10:56 pinesol csharp_: Band 'window.IAMBROWSER' added to list
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11:18 berick @band add The Type Righter
11:18 pinesol berick: Band 'The Type Righter' added to list
11:23 Bmagic lol
11:34 Dyrcona @band add Type Rider
11:34 pinesol Dyrcona: Band 'Type Rider' added to list
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12:43 Dyrcona So, I wrote a naive program to fork around some backend calls and it is failing with Redis as the communication layer. I have not tried it with ejabberd.
12:43 Dyrcona I should try the non-forking version with Redis. Maybe the fork is on the issue.
12:45 Dyrcona Non-forked version works with Redis.
12:45 Dyrcona I'll test tomorrow with ejabberd. I already ran the non-forked version on that vm today, so the forked version won't do anything.
12:48 Dyrcona The problem might be where/how I'm doing the fork.
12:48 berick gotta connect to osrf after forking regardless of redis/ejabberd
12:49 Dyrcona berick++ OK. I forgot/didn't know about that.
12:49 Dyrcona That explains the errors I was seeing in syslog.
12:55 Dyrcona berick does that include bootstrapping again?
12:55 Dyrcona i.e. do I have to bootstrap after a fork?
12:58 Dyrcona Hm... Looks like I'll have to initialize it all over again.
12:58 Dyrcona Maybe I won't bother with this for now or switch to multisession...
12:59 berick the forking perl server does one initial bootstrap, then the children just create a new connection after forking.
13:24 Dyrcona Nah. I'm just not getting it right.
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14:25 csharp_ @band add Forking Perl Server
14:25 pinesol csharp_: Band 'Forking Perl Server' added to list
14:26 Dyrcona This is actually a client. I was trying to emulate running multiple trigger reactors at once.
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14:45 Dyrcona @blame Leap Day
14:45 pinesol Dyrcona: Leap Day tests their code on the LIVE SERVERS, then blames the user. SAD!
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16:30 csharp_ @blame [band]
16:30 pinesol csharp_: Schooling the Noob HAXORED csharp_'s SERVERZ!!!!
16:39 csharp_ @band add The PINES Boxen
16:39 pinesol csharp_: Band 'The PINES Boxen' added to list
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17:22 * kmlussier is happy to report she has found an online source for espresso baking chips.
17:35 berick so much for a virtual conference.. where we meeting?
17:36 sleary kmlussier excellent news!
17:43 kmlussier berick: You're invited to come to NOBLE at any time. sleary too.
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