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jeff |
morning, #evergreen |
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jeff |
@coffee [someone] |
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* pinesol |
brews and pours a cup of El Salvador Pacamara Los Planes, and sends it sliding down the bar to Bmagic |
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kmlussier |
Good morning #evergreen and Happy Hackaway Day! |
| 08:58 |
kmlussier |
@coffee [someone} |
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pinesol |
kmlussier: Error: Missing "]". You may want to quote your arguments with double quotes in order to prevent extra brackets from being evaluated as nested commands. |
| 08:58 |
kmlussier |
Sigh...I think I'm the one who needs coffee. |
| 08:58 |
kmlussier |
@coffee [someone] |
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* pinesol |
brews and pours a cup of La Esperanza Colombia Huila, and sends it sliding down the bar to csharp_ |
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Bmagic |
@coffee [someone] |
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kmlussier |
@tea [someone] |
| 08:58 |
* pinesol |
brews and pours a cup of Panama Esmeralda Especial, and sends it sliding down the bar to jeff |
| 08:58 |
* pinesol |
brews and pours a pot of Bao Zhong Oolong Tea, and sends it sliding down the bar to Rogan (http://ratetea.com/tea/rishi/bao-zhong-oolong/768/) |
| 08:58 |
Bmagic |
haha jeff got me and I got him |
| 09:00 |
terranm |
In case any0one needs the Hackaway agenda / zoom links - https://wiki.evergreen-ils.org/doku.php?id=hack-a-way:hack-a-way-2023 |
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Rogan |
tea good |
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jeff |
zoom links hiding in plain sight... |
| 09:36 |
kmlussier |
Rogan: I suspected you would be happy about the tea. :) |
| 09:37 |
jeff |
zoom release notes contain, in part: |
| 09:37 |
jeff |
> Greater host control of AI Companion during meetings |
| 09:38 |
berick |
jeff: cool we don't even have to talk? nice |
| 09:40 |
csharp_ |
soon enough it will all just be bots talking to each other |
| 09:44 |
jeff |
you thought the occasional bot loop on irc or email autoresponder was annoying... wait until your AI agents get in a loop trying to short-circuit to a human! |
| 09:45 |
jeff |
agent. agent. AGENT! |
| 09:46 |
jeff |
(doctor. doctor. doctor.) |
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Bmagic |
removing drivers lisence from ident values but keeping dates: https://pastebin.com/0tET72Si |
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Bmagic |
license |
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jeff |
"keeping dates"? |
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csharp_ |
berick: https://pastebin.com/P6PdEDEs - Ingram message to users re: SFTP EDI |
| 10:58 |
roganhamby |
Dyrcona: information_schema.columns data_type should have it |
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berick |
thanks csharp_ |
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pinesol |
News from commits: LP2036297: Don't cover up the Exclude Electronic Resources checkbox <https://git.evergreen-ils.org/?p=Evergreen.git;a=commitdiff;h=d7110c7f4b7fb39c52b3d022ec87a7c0f6ad59a0> |
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pinesol |
News from commits: LP1994057 Add Survey Responses to Patron Data Print Template <https://git.evergreen-ils.org/?p=Evergreen.git;a=commitdiff;h=79b479c4cae4b1482abb1f7dd441b5e7feae94e7> |
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pinesol |
News from commits: LP1920234: Manual carousels should link to the existing bucket, rather than creating... <https://git.evergreen-ils.org/?p=Evergreen.git;a=commitdiff;h=e3c9350e1296ce49efa5549000f43b53ef7dfaeb> |
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eeevil |
hack-a-way folks! meetings have kept me away much of the day, but I hope Day 1 has been great. Please eat a little extra $best_dish_from_wherever_you_all_end_up for me! |
| 15:54 |
berick |
eeevil++ |
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pinesol |
News from commits: LP1920234 docs: add release notes <https://git.evergreen-ils.org/?p=Evergreen.git;a=commitdiff;h=41a878a402699b92f4b4a2362e24bb3ad48e937a> |
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pinesol |
News from commits: LP1960885 Correctly Read Default Classification Scheme OU Setting <https://git.evergreen-ils.org/?p=Evergreen.git;a=commitdiff;h=c3b1e281efd93f66f24e1eeaf9c16f029004b7f2> |
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kmlussier |
jeffdavis: We were looking at the privacy waiver today. Can you tell me what the intent was behind including View Checkout History in the waiver? Since My Account is the only place where a checkout history appears, we were puzzling over how this option is used in practice. |
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jeffdavis |
kmlussier: I'm pretty sure the View Checkout History option is obsolete. The feature is very old, I don't recall if there was a time when a patron's checkout history was visible in the staff client? |
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| 17:37 |
kmlussier |
jeffdavis: OK, got it. I don't remember there ever being a time when it was visible in the staff client. Maybe in xul? |
| 17:37 |
kmlussier |
jeffdavis++ |
| 17:38 |
jeffdavis |
the privacy waiver definitely dates back to the XUL days at Sitka |
| 17:38 |
kmlussier |
Belated karma because I wasn't around when this very cool feature was released. But I talked it up with some of my colleagues at the time when I saw it in the release notes! |
| 17:38 |
jihpringle |
kmlussier jeffdavis: actually I think it's intended to cover if the patron has items currently checked out |
| 17:39 |
jihpringle |
staff can then tell the person about current overdues etc. |
| 17:39 |
jeffdavis |
hm, in that case the name should probably be changed |
| 17:39 |
kmlussier |
jihpringle: Oh, I see. So it really isn't a checkout history as much as viewing current checkouts. |
| 17:39 |
kmlussier |
jeffdavis: You read my mind. :) |
| 17:40 |
jihpringle |
I wonder if we made it more generic cause of fines etc - there could be history of returned items in fines |
| 17:40 |
jihpringle |
or in notes or alerts |
| 17:41 |
jihpringle |
different wording to convey you can tell the person about any circ data currently available through the account would be good |
| 17:43 |
jihpringle |
the other three options are you can do these specific functions and this one is more, staff can tell you anything that staff can see about circulations on the account |
| 17:45 |
kmlussier |
View Circulation Information? Access Circulation Information? Obtain Circulation Information? |
| 17:45 |
kmlussier |
Having trouble coming up with the right verb. |
| 17:45 |
jihpringle |
of the three I like Obtain the best |
| 17:46 |
kmlussier |
I agree. |
| 17:52 |
jihpringle |
it would be handy if the waiver had a tool tip or explanation of some sort built in for the patron |
| 17:54 |
jihpringle |
Place Holds - your chosen person can place holds on your behalf, Pick Up Holds - your chosen person can pick up holds on your behalf, Check Out Items - your chosen person can check out library items on your account, Obtain Circulation Information - your chosen person can be told about your overdues, outstanding bills, etc. |
| 17:54 |
jihpringle |
maybe something like that ^^ |
| 17:57 |
kmlussier |
I like that idea! |
| 17:59 |
kmlussier |
jihpringle: For Check Out Items, then, was the original intent that the item is checked out in the system on the patron's account, but the proxy is the person who leaves with the item? We weren't sure whose account the item is checked out to in the system. |
| 18:00 |
jihpringle |
I think so |
| 18:00 |
jihpringle |
that's how my local libraries use it |
| 18:01 |
kmlussier |
jihpringle: Thanks for clarifying. Of course, since it's just a note, I know we can make it mean whatever we want it to mean, but I was curious how it was used originally. |
| 18:01 |
kmlussier |
jihpringle++ |
| 18:01 |
jihpringle |
when my sister picks up my holds they get checked out on my account (she works beside the library the next town over so it's very convenient when I want things from them) |
| 18:03 |
jihpringle |
It would also be handy if it was something libraries could easily customize if they have different restrictions - maybe staff are only allowed to say how many items the person already has out but not the titles |
| 18:09 |
kmlussier |
Customization is never a bad thing. |
| 18:10 |
kmlussier |
Thanks for your help. I'm heading out for the day in the hope that traffic has died down in the past hour. Have a good night! |
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