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08:33 Stompro mmorgan, I didn't see your question on Friday, B&T did say it was on their end.  It is still broken this morning when I test it.
08:35 mmorgan Stompro: Thanks! I got a similar reply from B&T late Friday. Tested it first thing myself, too.:) Still broken.:-(
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10:15 ahazaril Hye, I'm Ariez. I having difficulties to create Circulation Policies in Evergreen. I already set the Circulation Policies according to shelving location.
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10:21 csharp_ ahazaril: can you provide more details about what's not working?
10:22 ahazaril when i'm doing check-out, it shows error: no_matchpoint
10:22 csharp_ ahazaril: for all items or just some?
10:23 csharp_ ahazaril: that error means that the conditions of the circulation didn't match any of the rules you've configured
10:23 jeff It sounds like you have created some policies (based on your post to the mailing list, "Unable to Create Circulation Policies"), but it's possible that the policies you have now created are too specific, and aren't matching the item + library + user that you're testing with. Sometimes a "catch-all" policy helps, other times you *want* to know that things are amiss -- like the current "no matchpoint" error
10:23 ahazaril actually i just installed back Evergreen and i'm not fully skilful enough to set up Evergreen
10:23 jeff you're getting.
10:24 ahazaril i see
10:24 csharp_ ahazaril: yes, lots of moving parts
10:24 rhamby start with as broad a policy as possible for all users, all items, all locations and then create more specific ones after you know that one is working
10:24 rhamby and it can be your default for your most common items and patrons types
10:25 ahazaril can you guys give me some examples for configuring circulation policies
10:25 ahazaril because, i need to expert enough to use Evergreen before i'm installing to one of the school library in Malaysia
10:26 csharp_ ahazaril: very cool that you're doing that!
10:27 terranm That is exciting!
10:27 csharp_ ahazaril: https://docs.evergreen-ils.org/eg/d​ocs/latest/admin_initial_setup/borr​owing_items.html#_circulation_rules provides some guidance - have you seen that?
10:27 csharp_ maybe start at the top of that page for context
10:27 ahazaril i doing a research a lot about Evergreen as Evergreen give Consortium option, suitable for library school in Malaysia
10:28 terranm For the basic broad circulation policy, you can set one up with just the permission group set to the top "Users" level and the org unit set to the top "Consortium" level and nothing else filled in.
10:29 csharp_ ahazaril: to be successful, you'll need strong Linux server admin skills and patience and time to learn Evergreen's configuration
10:29 csharp_ ahazaril: lots of people here can point you to resources, but at the end of the day you'll need to be the expert :-)
10:30 csharp_ (or investigate getting admin help from someone with skills/knowledge - or even hosting, if that's reasonable for your situation)
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10:31 ahazaril i read the manual, i follow exactly inside the manual
10:32 ahazaril I follow terranm instructions, it seems succefully
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10:38 Dyrcona ahazaril: Are you saying that you followed the instructions in the manual and circulation doesn't work?
10:40 ahazaril No
10:40 ahazaril I put value in Copy circ library
10:40 ahazaril after I remove the vlaue, it seems work now
10:41 Dyrcona OK! Glad to hear it.
10:43 ahazaril thanks! for now i need to read again the manual n learn how to use evergreen
10:43 Dyrcona What rhamby suggested earlier is to input a row with almost all of the match fields blank and the rule fields filled in. This would be a default rule that would match any circulation that doesn't match other rules.
10:44 Dyrcona Evergreen matches from most specific to least specific rule, so having a "blank" rule as a fall back is a good idea.
10:44 rhamby and depending on your needs may save you a lot of time
10:45 ahazaril noted on that Dyrcona.
10:45 ahazaril Thanks rhamby
10:45 rhamby no worries
10:45 rhamby I've often thought we should do a round table of this kind of thing at the conference and record it sometime
10:46 rhamby not "here is what you have to do" but "here are things that might make your life easier starting with configuring Evergreen"
10:46 ahazaril interesting! perhaps Evergreen Committee can host a session for newbie like me
10:47 terranm I'd love to see a detailed recording of the entire process of installing and configuring a new Evergreen instance from scratch.
10:48 csharp_ ahazaril++
10:49 ahazaril before this, i'm trying to install evergreen back in 2017 after I finished my high school. but due to lack of skills in ubuntu, i seek helps from local ubuntu community in Malaysia
10:49 rhamby we often have sort of orientation to the community events at the conference but not ones that go into specific areas
10:50 ahazaril so this year i'm planning to install to my high school library after school librarian decided to migrate to the new library system
10:50 rhamby I'd be curious to see next year's conference committee pole the community for a few of those, especially if it's online again since recording is fairly straightforward that way
10:50 ahazaril i will share the entire procces after i finished install at the school library terranm
10:50 rhamby ahazaril++
10:50 terranm ahazaril++
10:51 ahazaril rhamby if you have any schedule for community event, feel free to share with me
10:51 rhamby whatever you gather as insights are welcome, if you do a blog or some kind of record of it please share with others
10:52 ahazaril because i'm planning to join IFLA Conference in Rotterdam this year, and one of my friends suggested to bring Evergreen as a topic for poster competition
10:52 ahazaril sure rhamby
10:52 rhamby ahazaril the community conference is coming up in april, details at evergreen-ils.org; it is in the united states but a few sessions will be streamed.  next year's we don't have a schedule for yet but may be entirely online
10:52 Dyrcona ahazaril: https://evergreen-ils.org/communicate/calendar/
10:52 ahazaril thanks rhamby & Dyrcona, i will check the calnder
10:54 Dyrcona And, the conference isn't on the calendar, or does it just not show up for me?
10:56 ahazaril it didn't show in calendar Dyrcona
10:59 Dyrcona I think I can add it, but probably not from the Google account that I'm presently using.
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11:49 scottangel ahazaril, Here is a docker container that you can run that has Evergreen pre-installed. https://hub.docker.com/r/m​obiusoffice/evergreen-ils
11:49 ahazaril tq so much scottangel
11:52 ahazaril has anyone tried this self check out software? https://www.greensburglibrary.org/selfcheck & https://evergreenindiana.org/wp-content/uploads/​2015/05/Customizable-Open-Source-Self-Check.pdf
11:52 ahazaril i'm trying to setup but but it shows Patron is not allowed to check out the selected items
11:53 Dyrcona ahazaril: Evergreen has its own built-in self check out.
11:54 ahazaril i see
11:54 Dyrcona As it says in the slides on Disadvantages, that one you've linked to is "not supported by Evergreen tech. support."
11:55 Dyrcona If I remember correctly, the Evergreen circulation code has a line that checks if a patron is checking out to themselves as part of the permission checks. This is so that online renewals and the self check work.
11:56 ahazaril thanks Dyrcona
11:59 pinesol News from commits: LP#2007877: various fixes to Server Admin Print Templates page <https://git.evergreen-ils.org/?p=E​vergreen.git;a=commitdiff;h=f0ea82​4684afc6ac02ca65aace91992c79504982>
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12:54 Stompro Does anyone know if there actually is a NISO NCIP committee right now?  I'm finding lots of dead links on www.ncip.info and on the niso.org site.
12:59 Dyrcona Stompro: I dunno. Do you need any document in particular? I have a couple of them locally.
13:01 Stompro All the V1 schema links are dead, our state ILL uses OCLC VDX, which uses NCIP V1, plus a translator to V2 to communicate with Evergreen.
13:04 Stompro So I was just going to check out the V1 schema, but cannot find a link that works on there.
13:14 Stompro I sent NISO HQ an email just to see if they know what is up.
13:29 pinesol News from commits: LP2003742 Shelf browse in angular catalog uses deleted call numbers <https://git.evergreen-ils.org/?p=E​vergreen.git;a=commitdiff;h=45119e​4e465887315b8841145081bb378d4527ff>
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15:16 Dyrcona Anyone have a fix for ContentCafe images?
15:24 Dyrcona IRC logs, for the win.
15:25 Dyrcona Guess I signed out a little too soon on Friday.
15:34 Dyrcona I notice that Koha uses a different URL/entrypoint into the API.
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16:00 pinesol News from commits: LP2004187 Opens acq provider link in new tab on PO <https://git.evergreen-ils.org/?p=E​vergreen.git;a=commitdiff;h=647898​e5240e768558e48ecdee25a9c6a8f12549>
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16:04 dtmoore Hey all - quick question - anyone presently using the serials module to any degree?
16:30 pinesol News from commits: LP2003947 Add LID count to Acq Search <https://git.evergreen-ils.org/?p=E​vergreen.git;a=commitdiff;h=1b4af3​5cb02b4a329c41c559a9d7e30e22a2bdec>
16:38 Dyrcona While looking into something else, I discovered that PostgreSQL has an ISN extension that adds functions for ISBN, EAN, ISMN, and ISSN.
16:38 Dyrcona Oh, and UPCs.
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17:00 jeff this line from the documentation: "Why would you want to use the weak mode? Well, it could be that you have a huge collection of ISBN numbers, and that there are so many of them that for weird reasons some have the wrong check digit [...]" is right up there with "The maximum practical number of sort bins [...] is probably only 3 or 4, but many digits are allowed to accommodate some sort of fantastic
17:01 jeff sorting device [...]"
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