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06:01 |
pinesol |
News from qatests: Testing Success <http://testing.evergreen-ils.org/~live> |
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08:57 |
gmcharlt |
mmorgan++ # New core committer |
08:58 |
mmorgan |
gmcharlt: Thank you! |
08:58 |
alynn26 |
mmorgan++ |
08:59 |
terranm |
mmorgan++ Congrats! |
08:59 |
tlittle |
mmorgan++ Congratulations!! |
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09:04 |
mmorgan |
Thanks all! Looking forward to learning the ropes! |
09:08 |
JBoyer |
mmorgan++ |
09:10 |
jeff |
mmorgan++ |
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kmlussier |
mmorgan++ #Well deserved! |
09:13 |
mmorgan |
Thanks kmlussier!! Nice to see you -ish! |
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abneiman |
mmorgan++ |
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collum |
mmorgan++ |
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Dyrcona |
gmcharlt++ # I almost asked last week if you wanted me to add mmorgan to the appropriate lists in gitolite.conf. |
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09:54 |
phasefx |
Dyrcona: sorry, I missed your Stripe question; all good now? |
09:55 |
Dyrcona |
phasefx: Yeah. It wasn't a Stripe problem, specifically. It turned out to be a network issue after I rebooted our load balancer. |
09:57 |
phasefx |
k; I have another payment processor coming out soon, and will be sure to double-check error handling |
10:03 |
Dyrcona |
The error handling ended up being OK. It told me what the problem. In fact, I didn't fully realize my problem until I also saw the errors from Stripe. |
10:03 |
Dyrcona |
phasefx++ |
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berick |
mmorgan++ |
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14:32 |
JBoyer |
Dev meeting coming up in 30! |
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14:55 |
JBoyer |
T-5 to meeting |
14:56 |
Dyrcona |
"All engines running." |
14:57 |
Dyrcona |
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S3ufJ7lcr08 |
15:00 |
JBoyer |
Hey-o!, let's do a meeting. |
15:00 |
JBoyer |
#startmeeting 2022-02-08 - Developer Meeting |
15:00 |
pinesol |
Meeting started Tue Feb 8 15:00:32 2022 US/Eastern. The chair is JBoyer. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. |
15:00 |
pinesol |
Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. |
15:00 |
pinesol |
The meeting name has been set to '2022_02_08___developer_meeting' |
15:00 |
JBoyer |
#info Agenda Available at https://wiki.evergreen-ils.org/doku.php?id=dev:meetings:2022-02-08 |
15:00 |
Dyrcona |
Third one today! |
15:00 |
JBoyer |
#topic Introductions |
15:00 |
JBoyer |
#info JBoyer = Jason Boyer, EOLI |
15:01 |
gmcharlt |
#info gmcharlt = Galen Charlton, Equinox |
15:01 |
Dyrcona |
#info Dyrcona = Jason Stephenson, CWMARS |
15:01 |
miker |
#info miker == Mike Rylander, EOLI |
15:01 |
alynn26 |
#info alynn26 is Lynn Floyd, Evergreen Indiana |
15:01 |
JBoyer |
Dyrcona, hopefully not the worst of the day then |
15:01 |
terranm |
#info terranm = Terran McCanna, PINES |
15:01 |
shulabear |
#info shulabear == Shula Link, GCHR/PINES |
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15:01 |
collum |
#info collum = Garry Collum, KCPL |
15:01 |
berick |
#info berick === Bill Erickson, KCLS |
15:02 |
abowling |
#info abowling = Adam Bowling, Emerald Data Networks |
15:02 |
phasefx |
#info phasefx = Jason Etheridge, EOLI |
15:02 |
dluch |
#info dluch = Debbie Luchenbill, MOBIUS |
15:03 |
JBoyer |
And as ever, folks arriving later can throw an #info to your channel. |
15:03 |
JBoyer |
#topic Action Items from Last Meeting |
15:03 |
JBoyer |
#info JBoyer will check out sandbergja's GH Actions branch |
15:03 |
JBoyer |
Checked out it was; checked-in it is. sandbergja++ |
15:04 |
abneiman |
abneiman = Andrea Neiman, EOLI |
15:04 |
mmorgan |
#info mmorgan = Michele Morgan, NOBLE |
15:04 |
Dyrcona |
sandbergja++ JBoyer++ |
15:04 |
JBoyer |
While github isn't the official home of the source it can be used for some useful things. It looks like GH Actions are powerful enough to investigate using for other things as well. (I especially like the ability to only trigger an action when a change is under this or that path.) |
15:05 |
JBoyer |
Not a lot happening this month re: release updates, on to docs |
15:05 |
JBoyer |
#topic Documentation Updates |
15:05 |
Dyrcona |
Gitlab has similar features. |
15:05 |
mantis1 |
#info mantis = Gina Monti, Bibliomation |
15:06 |
JBoyer |
#info February DIG meeting rescheduled to 2/10, same time. |
15:06 |
JBoyer |
#info Reviewing documentation and image needs |
15:06 |
JBoyer |
DIG members, anything to add to the documentation and image needs review or is that just to say that it's ongoing? |
15:07 |
alynn26 |
it's ongoing |
15:07 |
JBoyer |
right-o |
15:07 |
dluch |
Just ongoing. We're going over stuff at the meeting Thursday, and all are welcome |
15:07 |
JBoyer |
Sounds good. |
15:07 |
JBoyer |
Luckily for everyone I had just enough time to pre-type some of this up, so here we go. |
15:07 |
JBoyer |
#topic Launchpad Status as today |
15:07 |
JBoyer |
#info Snapshot |
15:08 |
JBoyer |
#info Open Bugs - 2657 |
15:08 |
JBoyer |
#info Pullrequests - 106 |
15:08 |
JBoyer |
#info Signedoff - 49 |
15:08 |
JBoyer |
#info Updates Since Last Meeting |
15:08 |
JBoyer |
#info Bugs Added - 38 |
15:08 |
JBoyer |
#info Pullrequest tag Added - 17 |
15:08 |
JBoyer |
#info Signedoff tag Added - 7 |
15:08 |
JBoyer |
#info Fix Committed - 3 |
15:09 |
JBoyer |
Progress is slow, but being made. Onward to better software! |
15:10 |
JBoyer |
#topic New Business |
15:10 |
JBoyer |
Just the one today, though certainly big enough to merit a full discussion. |
15:10 |
JBoyer |
#topic 3.9 Release Manager / Release Team |
15:11 |
JBoyer |
Does anyone have strong feelings about steering the ship that is 3.9, or at least want to put a hand on the rudder? |
15:11 |
JBoyer |
Specifically Evergreen 3.9, as I never actually mentioned the software by name there. |
15:11 |
miker |
after a restful hiatus since 3.0 (IIRC?) I'm willing to throw my hat in the ring |
15:12 |
berick |
miker++ |
15:12 |
mmorgan |
miker++ |
15:12 |
phasefx |
miker++ |
15:12 |
shulabear |
What are the duties of the release team? |
15:12 |
terranm |
miker++ |
15:13 |
miker |
shulabear: coordinating, prodding folks to test/signoff/commit, release building |
15:13 |
gmcharlt |
miker++ |
15:13 |
terranm |
I'm happy to be bug squash/feedback fest wrangler again |
15:13 |
phasefx |
I didn't help a lick with the last team I was on; I'm willing to, but may need some help/direction |
15:13 |
miker |
terranm++ |
15:13 |
miker |
that was... going to be a question from me :) |
15:14 |
mmorgan |
terranm++ |
15:14 |
shulabear |
I'm willing to volunteer, though I'm not sure how much help I'll be with the building part. |
15:14 |
miker |
shulabear++ # the more the merrier on the release team |
15:14 |
miker |
phasefx: c',mon in, the water's fine |
15:15 |
phasefx |
+1 |
15:15 |
miker |
terranm: do you have a plan (or sense of one) for timing on FBF and BSW? |
15:15 |
shulabear |
Then I'm in! |
15:16 |
JBoyer |
Anyone else interested in helping out? 4 person teams are common but not necessarily required. |
15:16 |
miker |
looking at 3.7's schedule, we're starting a little late (not a problem, just an observation) |
15:16 |
terranm |
miker: I usually try to work back from whenever the targets are |
15:16 |
* mmorgan |
is also willing to help out again, if there's room in the pool. |
15:16 |
mmorgan |
Unless someone else wants to jump in. |
15:16 |
miker |
mmorgan++ # please do! you can commit ALL THE THINGS now :) |
15:16 |
JBoyer |
Ooh, an opportunity to try out the shiny new commit bit. :) |
15:16 |
mmorgan |
:-D |
15:17 |
JBoyer |
In that case, |
15:17 |
terranm |
Last year we did FF mid-Feb and BSW mid-March |
15:17 |
miker |
terranm: ok ... then I will endeavor to put together a rough schedule in an email to -dev for release timing planning, does that work for you? |
15:18 |
terranm |
miker: sounds good! |
15:18 |
JBoyer |
#info The Evergreen 3.9 release team is miker, shulabear, phasefx, and mmorgan. |
15:19 |
miker |
cool. just looking at last year's spring release, I think we can plan on that + a week or two |
15:20 |
miker |
IMO, FF and BSW are probably the most important parts of the release process, so |
15:20 |
miker |
terranm++ |
15:20 |
JBoyer |
miker++ |
15:20 |
JBoyer |
shulabear++ |
15:20 |
JBoyer |
phasefx++ |
15:20 |
JBoyer |
mmorgan++ |
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15:20 |
JBoyer |
and indeed, terranm++ because those bugs need squashing. |
15:21 |
mmorgan |
terranm is masterful at coordinating those weeks! |
15:21 |
JBoyer |
Any other last minute new business that's too fresh for the agenda? |
15:22 |
JBoyer |
OR, any discussion re: release team before machinations begin? |
15:22 |
gmcharlt |
I have a minor announcement when you're ready |
15:22 |
miker |
I have a request for past RM teams |
15:22 |
JBoyer |
Quick Q from miker since it's relteam related, then on to gmcharlt |
15:23 |
miker |
if you have any preexisting mechanisms that have been useful and productive in the past (side IRC channels, locations of buried skeletons, pot-holes to avoid) please feel free to throw them at me |
15:23 |
miker |
that is all |
15:24 |
miker |
gmcharlt: the floor is yours |
15:24 |
gmcharlt |
miker: I encourage the use of duck imagery in regular community updates |
15:24 |
miker |
quack quack |
15:24 |
gmcharlt |
which, more seriously, means aiming for more regular updates from the release team; ducks are optional |
15:24 |
terranm |
gmcharlt++ |
15:25 |
shulabear |
gmcharlt++ |
15:25 |
mmorgan |
gmcharlt++ |
15:25 |
gmcharlt |
anyway, the update I have is in regards to users of the Evergreen to OverDrive integration, specifically the checkout/download API |
15:25 |
gmcharlt |
as noted in bug 1951021, OverDrive is changing how downloads happen |
15:25 |
pinesol |
Launchpad bug 1951021 in Evergreen "Support changes to Overdrive Checkouts API" [Medium,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1951021 |
15:25 |
gmcharlt |
more details http://developer.overdrive.com/overdrive-api-notices/01-sep-2021-coming-soon-changes-to-overdrive-checkouts-api |
15:25 |
gmcharlt |
as I understand it, the drop-dead date has slipped over the past few months |
15:26 |
gmcharlt |
but per an OverDrive rep, they're intending to flip the switch and remove the old download mechanism next week |
15:26 |
gmcharlt |
so, one request: commiters looking at the pull request for that bug and signing off on my and jeffdavis' work |
15:27 |
gmcharlt |
and second request: take note that you'll need that patch if you're a user of that integration and are responsible for applying your own patches |
15:27 |
gmcharlt |
fub |
15:27 |
gmcharlt |
er, fin |
15:27 |
Dyrcona |
gmcharlt: Does it still use Dojo? |
15:27 |
gmcharlt |
Dyrcona: correct, that hasn't changed |
15:28 |
Dyrcona |
Do we have plans to replace it with something that doesn't use Dojo? |
15:29 |
JBoyer |
I assume the choicest signoffs will involve using an Overdrive testing account, which I ... have gotten in the past but no longer remember the level of hassle one is required to endure. Have you and jeffdavis verified the actual downloading bits so that "Doesn't break my system and looks sane" type signoffs are sufficient? |
15:29 |
gmcharlt |
JBoyer: yes, we've verified it w.r.t. to real OverDrive credentials |
15:29 |
JBoyer |
gmcharlt++ |
15:29 |
JBoyer |
jeffdavis++ |
15:29 |
Dyrcona |
JBoyer: Even if you have credentials the Overdrive test environment is a pain to use. |
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15:31 |
JBoyer |
Though to guess at the answer to your Q Dyrcona, I haven't seen specific mention of a major update to the feature that I can recall. Depending on what Dojo is doing it could be a major undertaking. |
15:31 |
JBoyer |
And I can't say I'm surprised that it's a hassle to work with their backend. I'm still salty about the time they took away ftp access to new records. |
15:32 |
gmcharlt |
eh, a plain vanilla rewrite is not huge IMO; just a question of tuits |
15:32 |
jeffdavis |
it's been on my todo list forever, but yeah, finding time is the hard part |
15:32 |
JBoyer |
That's good to know. |
15:33 |
Dyrcona |
I completely understand. I know about not having time for things, too. :( |
15:34 |
JBoyer |
Onward then, to saying things for the minutes. |
15:34 |
JBoyer |
#topic Announcements |
15:34 |
JBoyer |
#info Congratulations to new Core Committer Michele Morgan! |
15:34 |
JBoyer |
mmorgan++ |
15:34 |
Bmagic |
mmorgan++ |
15:34 |
shulabear |
mmorgan++ |
15:34 |
alynn26 |
mmorgan++ |
15:35 |
collum |
mmorgan++ |
15:35 |
mantis1 |
mmorgan++ |
15:35 |
jeffdavis |
mmorgan++ # yay! |
15:35 |
gmcharlt |
mmorgan++ |
15:35 |
abneiman |
mmorgan++ |
15:35 |
* mmorgan |
hopes folks will be available to help figure out exactly how to wield that shiny new bit! :) |
15:35 |
terranm |
mmorgan++ |
15:35 |
Dyrcona |
mmorgan++ |
15:35 |
dluch |
mmorgan++ |
15:36 |
mmorgan |
Thanks all! |
15:36 |
miker |
mmorgan++ |
15:37 |
JBoyer |
I feel like there's an easy joke about spinning up a new git-admins email list but having to wipe it out and start over every few months, but I've become too lazy to craft such a work correctly. |
15:37 |
JBoyer |
#info Next Meeting is March 08, 2022 |
15:37 |
JBoyer |
poof |
15:37 |
JBoyer |
#endmeeting |
15:37 |
pinesol |
Meeting ended Tue Feb 8 15:37:34 2022 US/Eastern. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) |
15:37 |
pinesol |
Minutes: http://evergreen-ils.org/meetings/evergreen/2022/evergreen.2022-02-08-15.00.html |
15:37 |
pinesol |
Minutes (text): http://evergreen-ils.org/meetings/evergreen/2022/evergreen.2022-02-08-15.00.txt |
15:37 |
pinesol |
Log: http://evergreen-ils.org/meetings/evergreen/2022/evergreen.2022-02-08-15.00.log.html |
15:37 |
gmcharlt |
JBoyer++ |
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miker |
JBoyer++ |
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Bmagic |
JBoyer++ |
15:37 |
mmorgan |
JBoyer++ |
15:37 |
shulabear |
JBoyer++ |
15:37 |
dluch |
JBoyer++ |
15:37 |
Dyrcona |
JBoyer++ |
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collum |
JBoyer++ |
15:39 |
terranm |
JBoyer++ |
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18:01 |
pinesol |
News from qatests: Testing Success <http://testing.evergreen-ils.org/~live> |
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21:52 |
pinesol |
[evergreen|gmontimantis] Docs: Updating Opac Lists doc - <http://git.evergreen-ils.org/?p=Evergreen.git;a=commit;h=ad42342> |
22:45 |
pinesol |
[evergreen|Lynn Floyd] Adding videos from Conferences - <http://git.evergreen-ils.org/?p=Evergreen.git;a=commit;h=bb054da> |