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06:01 pinesol News from qatests: Testing Success <http://testing.evergreen-ils.org/~live>
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08:57 gmcharlt mmorgan++ # New core committer
08:58 mmorgan gmcharlt: Thank you!
08:58 alynn26 mmorgan++
08:59 terranm mmorgan++ Congrats!
08:59 tlittle mmorgan++ Congratulations!!
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09:04 mmorgan Thanks all! Looking forward to learning the ropes!
09:08 JBoyer mmorgan++
09:10 jeff mmorgan++
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09:11 kmlussier mmorgan++ #Well deserved!
09:13 mmorgan Thanks kmlussier!! Nice to see you -ish!
09:22 abneiman mmorgan++
09:29 collum mmorgan++
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09:38 Dyrcona gmcharlt++ # I almost asked last week if you wanted me to add mmorgan to the appropriate lists in gitolite.conf.
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09:54 phasefx Dyrcona: sorry, I missed your Stripe question; all good now?
09:55 Dyrcona phasefx: Yeah. It wasn't a Stripe problem, specifically. It turned out to be a network issue after I rebooted our load balancer.
09:57 phasefx k; I have another payment processor coming out soon, and will be sure to double-check error handling
10:03 Dyrcona The error handling ended up being OK. It told me what the problem. In fact, I didn't fully realize my problem until I also saw the errors from Stripe.
10:03 Dyrcona phasefx++
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13:11 berick mmorgan++
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14:32 JBoyer Dev meeting coming up in 30!
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14:55 JBoyer T-5 to meeting
14:56 Dyrcona "All engines running."
14:57 Dyrcona https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S3ufJ7lcr08
15:00 JBoyer Hey-o!, let's do a meeting.
15:00 JBoyer #startmeeting 2022-02-08 - Developer Meeting
15:00 pinesol Meeting started Tue Feb  8 15:00:32 2022 US/Eastern.  The chair is JBoyer. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.
15:00 pinesol Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote.
15:00 pinesol The meeting name has been set to '2022_02_08___developer_meeting'
15:00 JBoyer #info Agenda Available at https://wiki.evergreen-ils.org/do​ku.php?id=dev:meetings:2022-02-08
15:00 Dyrcona Third one today!
15:00 JBoyer #topic Introductions
15:00 JBoyer #info JBoyer = Jason Boyer, EOLI
15:01 gmcharlt #info gmcharlt = Galen Charlton, Equinox
15:01 Dyrcona #info Dyrcona = Jason Stephenson, CWMARS
15:01 miker #info miker == Mike Rylander, EOLI
15:01 alynn26 #info alynn26 is Lynn Floyd, Evergreen Indiana
15:01 JBoyer Dyrcona, hopefully not the worst of the day then
15:01 terranm #info terranm = Terran McCanna, PINES
15:01 shulabear #info shulabear == Shula Link, GCHR/PINES
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15:01 collum #info collum = Garry Collum, KCPL
15:01 berick #info berick === Bill Erickson, KCLS
15:02 abowling #info abowling = Adam Bowling, Emerald Data Networks
15:02 phasefx #info phasefx = Jason Etheridge, EOLI
15:02 dluch #info dluch = Debbie Luchenbill, MOBIUS
15:03 JBoyer And as ever, folks arriving later can throw an #info to your channel.
15:03 JBoyer #topic Action Items from Last Meeting
15:03 JBoyer #info JBoyer will check out sandbergja's GH Actions branch
15:03 JBoyer Checked out it was; checked-in it is. sandbergja++
15:04 abneiman abneiman = Andrea Neiman, EOLI
15:04 mmorgan #info mmorgan = Michele Morgan, NOBLE
15:04 Dyrcona sandbergja++ JBoyer++
15:04 JBoyer While github isn't the official home of the source it can be used for some useful things. It looks like GH Actions are powerful enough to investigate using for other things as well. (I especially like the ability to only trigger an action when a change is under this or that path.)
15:05 JBoyer Not a lot happening this month re: release updates, on to docs
15:05 JBoyer #topic Documentation Updates
15:05 Dyrcona Gitlab has similar features.
15:05 mantis1 #info mantis = Gina Monti, Bibliomation
15:06 JBoyer #info February DIG meeting rescheduled to 2/10, same time.
15:06 JBoyer #info Reviewing documentation and image needs
15:06 JBoyer DIG members, anything to add to the documentation and image needs review or is that just to say that it's ongoing?
15:07 alynn26 it's ongoing
15:07 JBoyer right-o
15:07 dluch Just ongoing. We're going over stuff at the meeting Thursday, and all are welcome
15:07 JBoyer Sounds good.
15:07 JBoyer Luckily for everyone I had just enough time to pre-type some of this up, so here we go.
15:07 JBoyer #topic Launchpad Status as today
15:07 JBoyer #info Snapshot
15:08 JBoyer #info Open Bugs - 2657
15:08 JBoyer #info Pullrequests - 106
15:08 JBoyer #info Signedoff - 49
15:08 JBoyer #info Updates Since Last Meeting
15:08 JBoyer #info Bugs Added - 38
15:08 JBoyer #info Pullrequest tag Added - 17
15:08 JBoyer #info Signedoff tag Added - 7
15:08 JBoyer #info Fix Committed - 3
15:09 JBoyer Progress is slow, but being made. Onward to better software!
15:10 JBoyer #topic New Business
15:10 JBoyer Just the one today, though certainly big enough to merit a full discussion.
15:10 JBoyer #topic 3.9 Release Manager / Release Team
15:11 JBoyer Does anyone have strong feelings about steering the ship that is 3.9, or at least want to put a hand on the rudder?
15:11 JBoyer Specifically Evergreen 3.9, as I never actually mentioned the software by name there.
15:11 miker after a restful hiatus since 3.0 (IIRC?) I'm willing to throw my hat in the ring
15:12 berick miker++
15:12 mmorgan miker++
15:12 phasefx miker++
15:12 shulabear What are the duties of the release team?
15:12 terranm miker++
15:13 miker shulabear: coordinating, prodding folks to test/signoff/commit, release building
15:13 gmcharlt miker++
15:13 terranm I'm happy to be bug squash/feedback fest wrangler again
15:13 phasefx I didn't help a lick with the last team I was on; I'm willing to, but may need some help/direction
15:13 miker terranm++
15:13 miker that was... going to be a question from me :)
15:14 mmorgan terranm++
15:14 shulabear I'm willing to volunteer, though I'm not sure how much help I'll be with the building part.
15:14 miker shulabear++ # the more the merrier on the release team
15:14 miker phasefx: c',mon in, the water's fine
15:15 phasefx +1
15:15 miker terranm: do you have a plan (or sense of one) for timing on FBF and BSW?
15:15 shulabear Then I'm in!
15:16 JBoyer Anyone else interested in helping out? 4 person teams are common but not necessarily required.
15:16 miker looking at 3.7's schedule, we're starting a little late (not a problem, just an observation)
15:16 terranm miker: I usually try to work back from whenever the targets are
15:16 * mmorgan is also willing to help out again, if there's room in the pool.
15:16 mmorgan Unless someone else wants to jump in.
15:16 miker mmorgan++ # please do! you can commit ALL THE THINGS now :)
15:16 JBoyer Ooh, an opportunity to try out the shiny new commit bit. :)
15:16 mmorgan :-D
15:17 JBoyer In that case,
15:17 terranm Last year we did FF mid-Feb and BSW mid-March
15:17 miker terranm: ok ... then I will endeavor to put together a rough schedule in an email to -dev for release timing planning, does that work for you?
15:18 terranm miker: sounds good!
15:18 JBoyer #info The Evergreen 3.9 release team is miker, shulabear, phasefx, and mmorgan.
15:19 miker cool. just looking at last year's spring release, I think we can plan on that + a week or two
15:20 miker IMO, FF and BSW are probably the most important parts of the release process, so
15:20 miker terranm++
15:20 JBoyer miker++
15:20 JBoyer shulabear++
15:20 JBoyer phasefx++
15:20 JBoyer mmorgan++
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15:20 JBoyer and indeed, terranm++ because those bugs need squashing.
15:21 mmorgan terranm is masterful at coordinating those weeks!
15:21 JBoyer Any other last minute new business that's too fresh for the agenda?
15:22 JBoyer OR, any discussion re: release team before machinations begin?
15:22 gmcharlt I have a minor announcement when you're ready
15:22 miker I have a request for past RM teams
15:22 JBoyer Quick Q from miker since it's relteam related, then on to gmcharlt
15:23 miker if you have any preexisting mechanisms that have been useful and productive in the past (side IRC channels, locations of buried skeletons, pot-holes to avoid) please feel free to throw them at me
15:23 miker that is all
15:24 miker gmcharlt: the floor is yours
15:24 gmcharlt miker: I encourage the use of duck imagery in regular community updates
15:24 miker quack quack
15:24 gmcharlt which, more seriously, means aiming for more regular updates from the release team; ducks are optional
15:24 terranm gmcharlt++
15:25 shulabear gmcharlt++
15:25 mmorgan gmcharlt++
15:25 gmcharlt anyway, the update I have is in regards to users of the Evergreen to OverDrive integration, specifically the checkout/download API
15:25 gmcharlt as noted in bug 1951021, OverDrive is changing how downloads happen
15:25 pinesol Launchpad bug 1951021 in Evergreen "Support changes to Overdrive Checkouts API" [Medium,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1951021
15:25 gmcharlt more details http://developer.overdrive.com/overdr​ive-api-notices/01-sep-2021-coming-so​on-changes-to-overdrive-checkouts-api
15:25 gmcharlt as I understand it, the drop-dead date has slipped over the past few months
15:26 gmcharlt but per an OverDrive rep, they're intending to flip the switch and remove the old download mechanism next week
15:26 gmcharlt so, one request: commiters looking at the pull request for that bug and signing off on my and jeffdavis' work
15:27 gmcharlt and second request: take note that you'll need that patch if you're a user of that integration and are responsible for applying your own patches
15:27 gmcharlt fub
15:27 gmcharlt er, fin
15:27 Dyrcona gmcharlt: Does it still use Dojo?
15:27 gmcharlt Dyrcona: correct, that hasn't changed
15:28 Dyrcona Do we have plans to replace it with something that doesn't use Dojo?
15:29 JBoyer I assume the choicest signoffs will involve using an Overdrive testing account, which I ... have gotten in the past but no longer remember the level of hassle one is required to endure. Have you and jeffdavis verified the actual downloading bits so that "Doesn't break my system and looks sane" type signoffs are sufficient?
15:29 gmcharlt JBoyer: yes, we've verified it w.r.t. to real OverDrive credentials
15:29 JBoyer gmcharlt++
15:29 JBoyer jeffdavis++
15:29 Dyrcona JBoyer: Even if you have credentials the Overdrive test environment is a pain to use.
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15:31 JBoyer Though to guess at the answer to your Q Dyrcona, I haven't seen specific mention of a major update to the feature that I can recall. Depending on what Dojo is doing it could be a major undertaking.
15:31 JBoyer And I can't say I'm surprised that it's a hassle to work with their backend. I'm still salty about the time they took away ftp access to new records.
15:32 gmcharlt eh, a plain vanilla rewrite is not huge IMO; just a question of tuits
15:32 jeffdavis it's been on my todo list forever, but yeah, finding time is the hard part
15:32 JBoyer That's good to know.
15:33 Dyrcona I completely understand. I know about not having time for things, too. :(
15:34 JBoyer Onward then, to saying things for the minutes.
15:34 JBoyer #topic Announcements
15:34 JBoyer #info Congratulations to new Core Committer Michele Morgan!
15:34 JBoyer mmorgan++
15:34 Bmagic mmorgan++
15:34 shulabear mmorgan++
15:34 alynn26 mmorgan++
15:35 collum mmorgan++
15:35 mantis1 mmorgan++
15:35 jeffdavis mmorgan++ # yay!
15:35 gmcharlt mmorgan++
15:35 abneiman mmorgan++
15:35 * mmorgan hopes folks will be available to help figure out exactly how to wield that shiny new bit! :)
15:35 terranm mmorgan++
15:35 Dyrcona mmorgan++
15:35 dluch mmorgan++
15:36 mmorgan Thanks all!
15:36 miker mmorgan++
15:37 JBoyer I feel like there's an easy joke about spinning up a new git-admins email list but having to wipe it out and start over every few months, but I've become too lazy to craft such a work correctly.
15:37 JBoyer #info Next Meeting is March 08, 2022
15:37 JBoyer poof
15:37 JBoyer #endmeeting
15:37 pinesol Meeting ended Tue Feb  8 15:37:34 2022 US/Eastern.  Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4)
15:37 pinesol Minutes:        http://evergreen-ils.org/meetings/evergr​een/2022/evergreen.2022-02-08-15.00.html
15:37 pinesol Minutes (text): http://evergreen-ils.org/meetings/evergr​een/2022/evergreen.2022-02-08-15.00.txt
15:37 pinesol Log:            http://evergreen-ils.org/meetings/evergree​n/2022/evergreen.2022-02-08-15.00.log.html
15:37 gmcharlt JBoyer++
15:37 miker JBoyer++
15:37 Bmagic JBoyer++
15:37 mmorgan JBoyer++
15:37 shulabear JBoyer++
15:37 dluch JBoyer++
15:37 Dyrcona JBoyer++
15:38 collum JBoyer++
15:39 terranm JBoyer++
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18:01 pinesol News from qatests: Testing Success <http://testing.evergreen-ils.org/~live>
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21:52 pinesol [evergreen|gmontimantis] Docs: Updating Opac Lists doc - <http://git.evergreen-ils.org/?p=​Evergreen.git;a=commit;h=ad42342>
22:45 pinesol [evergreen|Lynn Floyd] Adding videos from Conferences - <http://git.evergreen-ils.org/?p=​Evergreen.git;a=commit;h=bb054da>

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