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06:01 pinesol News from qatests: Testing Success <http://testing.evergreen-ils.org/~live>
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10:02 Dyrcona Sneakernet is sometimes faster than busy WiFi.
10:03 alynn26 lol
10:03 mmorgan :)
10:13 rhamby I feel like this has to be re-posted on such occasions: https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/rfc2549
10:14 Dyrcona Heh.
10:14 Dyrcona "Never underestimate the raw bandwith of a Ford station wagon filled with backup tapes."
10:17 Dyrcona Well, something like that.
10:21 Dyrcona Then there are those times when the USB stick and your laptop refuse to cooperate...
10:23 rhamby usb is dead on my laptop, on the rare occasions I need to do that I send over smb to another machine with working usb
10:25 Dyrcona My laptop has 2 Thunderbolt ports, so I have to use a little hub type thing.
10:25 Dyrcona Looks like the filesystem on this USB is hosed and the attempt to repair threw an error, so I'll just format it again.
10:26 rhamby hmmmm I have thunderbolt ports too that I forget about because they always have monitors plugged in, I could do that too
10:27 Dyrcona Yeah, I'm using an extra monitor with the hub/adapter right now. Only thing on it is the IRC window. :)
10:28 rhamby I usually use three monitors and have this rough setup: 1 monitor is IRC and slack, 2nd monitor is web browser and third is terminal screen
10:29 Dyrcona I only use the 2nd monitor when I'm in the CW MARS office.
10:31 rhamby I want AR to be a reality so I can walk around and sit outside with the limitation of physical screens.
10:31 rhamby without the limitation that is
10:34 Dyrcona Maybe with Neuralink.
10:36 rhamby I'm both terrified and excited by that kind of technology.
10:37 Dyrcona yeahp.
10:41 Dyrcona Having two of the same make and model of USB stick plugged in at the same time seems to confuse the Disks utility on Ubuntu 20.04.
10:45 * mmorgan needs 3 monitors. Once you add additional monitors, there's no going back.
10:46 alynn26 mmorgan, I am with you on that.   Now just how do you keep up with where your mouse is at. :)
10:47 Dyrcona I've used virtual desktops for years, so I don't normally feel the need for multiple monitors. I find it awkward at times.
10:47 * mmorgan has changed the mouse pointere to be huge and bright pink!
10:48 mmorgan pointere/pointer
10:51 rhamby alynn26 I use an add on app that puts a purple ring around my mouse and animates when I click, originally I installed it for doing training to make it easy for people viewing my screen but with three monitors it was nice and kept using it
10:55 alynn26 I usually don't have an issue, it's usually more of a focus issue, or when I switch between home and the office.
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13:03 jvwoolf I'm seeing the following error for each drone when running osrf_control --diagnostic on our test systems that run 3.5.4 and on one that runs 3.6.4: ERR opensrf.dbmath [####] NOT configured for this host
13:04 jvwoolf Any ideas about what might cause that?
13:05 Dyrcona jvwoolf: Most likely culprit is the -l or --localhost option was used when starting services.
13:05 Dyrcona Add it to the diagnostic and see what happens
13:06 jvwoolf Dyrcona: LIke this? osrf_control --diagnostic -l
13:06 Dyrcona Yeah, the order doesn't matter.
13:08 jvwoolf Dyrcona++
13:08 jvwoolf That did it
13:08 Dyrcona jvwoolf: Do you have host-specific configurations in opensrf.xml?
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13:10 jvwoolf Dyrcona: Not other than the DB they connect to
13:11 Dyrcona OK. Then, you always want to use -l option with osrf_control.
13:13 jvwoolf Good to know, thanks!
13:22 jvwoolf csharp_: (If you're arround) Sadly, disabling the experiemental catalog hasn't ended our drone exhaustion woes
13:23 csharp_ because I don't like mixing short and long options, I usually type out --localhost, but that's just me
13:23 csharp_ jvwoolf: sorry to hear that :-(
13:23 jvwoolf I'm going to see about backporting the fixes from 3.6+
13:23 csharp_ jvwoolf: you're on 3.5, right?
13:23 jvwoolf Yes
13:24 csharp_ if you want, I'll try to backport it to stock 3.5 and push my results to a working repo where you can cherry-pick them?
13:27 csharp_ jvwoolf: are you on 3.5.5?
13:27 jvwoolf csharp: that would be great!
13:27 jvwoolf Not yet, but we will be soon
13:27 csharp_ ok
13:27 jvwoolf This would give us an incentive to schedule that minor upgrade for sure LOL
13:28 csharp_ jvwoolf: which point release version are you on?
13:28 jvwoolf 3.5.4
13:28 csharp_ oh ok
13:39 csharp_ jvwoolf: the top 7 commits of https://git.evergreen-ils.org/?p=workin​g/Evergreen.git;a=shortlog;h=refs/heads​/user/csharp/3_5_drone_exhaustion_fixes include fixes that weren't backported to 3.5 - built on top of 3.5.5
13:39 jvwoolf csharp++
13:39 jvwoolf X10000000
13:39 csharp_ jvwoolf: FYI, 3.5.3 had two of the batching fixes applied already, so you should have those
13:40 Dyrcona csharp_++
13:41 jvwoolf csharp_++
13:41 csharp_ everything applied cleanly, too, so probably good to go
13:44 Dyrcona I may just have to swipe the ones that we're missing.
13:44 csharp_ Dyrcona: awesome - glad it's helpful that I did that
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13:45 csharp_ @who is messing around on dc.esilibrary.com again?
13:45 pinesol berick is messing around on dc.esilibrary.com again.
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13:47 berick and I would have gotten away with it too...
13:47 Dyrcona heh
13:47 csharp_ @band add Those Meddling Kids
13:47 pinesol csharp_: Band 'Those Meddling Kids' added to list
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13:48 csharp_ jvwoolf: Dyrcona: bug 1945003 also has a branch from berick authored last week
13:48 csharp_ not sure we've seen that issue, though
13:48 pinesol Launchpad bug 1945003 in Evergreen 3.6 "Vandelay Recent Imports Fetches Sessions in Parallel" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1945003
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13:50 jvwoolf csharp_: It's been openils.actor drones giving us trouble of late
13:53 Dyrcona We haven't had much trouble with the drones lately, but it is usually actor drones.
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16:32 Bmagic Checking here first. We have a library that recently turned on "Hold-driven recalls" - and the action trigger for recall notices was enabled. All is well, except the triggered emails are alerting the patron with the item 4 times a day. I can't see anything obvious that would cause a single hold to make that happen
16:34 Bmagic another thing that is funny: some of the holds are 6 years old, perfectly valid holds, and this new library setting is doing it's thing on ancient holds. I would have thought that the trigger would have only been put into motion upon hold placement, and not retroactively. But that's clearly not the case
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16:44 * mmorgan wonders if the notification is linked to the hold targeter. Bmagic, how often does the hold targeter run?
16:45 Bmagic every 2 hours. The triggers are getting scheduled every 4
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18:02 pinesol News from qatests: Testing Success <http://testing.evergreen-ils.org/~live>
19:47 csharp_ is it creating four events per hold every time?

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