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06:01 pinesol News from qatests: Failed Running perl live tests <http://testing.evergreen-ils.org/~live//arch​ive/2021-04/2021-04-15_04:00:03/test.49.html>
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10:00 rhamby if you are planning on attending the hack-a-way in indiana this year please fill out the survey https://www.surveymonkey.com/r/XTH2KYY before end of day tomorrow
10:10 rhamby FYI if anyone has strong feelings about October 18th-20th veruss Nov 1-3 those are in a dead heat right now
10:14 Dyrcona rhamby++
10:15 rhamby and for the record I blame email weirdness on my dog howling in the background
10:15 rhamby it is really freaking unnerving
10:19 alynn26 lol
10:20 alynn26 Has anyone had a request to make the opac available but not allow patrons to login to the opac.
10:20 berick rhamby: i prefer Nov if that helps
10:21 rhamby berick I will add that to votes pile
10:25 Dyrcona rhamby: November is slightly preferable for me, too, but all of the dates work.
10:26 rhamby we usually don't have a tie like this so preferred dates are good to know
10:26 rhamby in the future I need to use a service that lets me do weighted choices
10:27 Dyrcona alynn26: I can't say that I have had that request. Is this for 1 location/library?
10:27 rhamby survey monkey has also removed a ton of features from their free tier since I last used it
10:27 rhamby alynn26 I know we've done it in the past though not routinely, I'd have to ask somoen in ops about what they did for it as my memory is fuzzy
10:29 Dyrcona If it's just one library with their own domain name, you could make a custom template directory for them where the login page doesn't do anything but redirects to the home page. It would require some Apache config to support it.
10:30 Dyrcona Might not even need the custom template.
10:32 alynn26 It is one library, I have a way forward for this to work. If I need to pursue it.
10:33 rhamby my instinct would be custom template too
10:34 alynn26 Thanks
10:40 Bmagic Dyrcona / gmcharlt Could I get this merged into antora-ui  master: https://git.evergreen-ils.org/?p=wor​king/eg-antora.git;a=shortlog;h=refs​/heads/user/blake/dig-email-footer
10:47 jeffdavis I had to resolve a merge conflict to backport someone else's fix to 3.5 - should I get someone else to sign off on the backport, or can I go ahead and commit? (bug 1918362)
10:47 pinesol Launchpad bug 1918362 in Evergreen 3.6 "Unchanged workstation settings are re-applied on every checkin" [Medium,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1918362
10:50 Dyrcona jeffdavis: That depends on your confidence in the backport, really. If I'm not confident in the backport, I usually comment that in the bug and don't push it, or ask someone else to do the backport.
10:51 Dyrcona Some conflicts are more obvious to resolve than others.
10:52 Dyrcona Bmagic: Should you have commit access to the eg-antor git repo?
10:52 jeffdavis OK, thanks. In this case I want to put the backport in production ASAP, so maybe I'll do that and commit next week if nothing blows up.
10:53 Dyrcona jeffdavis: That's an excellent idea. I've done that, too, since we're usually a  few versions behind.
10:53 Bmagic Dyrcona: I'm not sure what the answer is for that
10:54 Dyrcona Bmagic: I can tell you that you do have access to push to it, so you don't have to ask.
10:54 Bmagic oh
10:54 Dyrcona I had to look it up, fwiw.
11:40 miker alynn26: I've done something like that by using just a few custom templates and sprinkling `class="[% IF !ctx.authtoken; 'hide_me'; END %]"` on thing like place-hold and my-list links/<option>s/<div>s that would drive someone through the login interstitial, and the main my-account <div> in the header. then the staff client still works, but you can't get an authtoken (easily) through the opac. there's surprisingly little to touch. in stock templates it
11:40 miker looks like parts/cart.tt2, parts/record/summary.tt2, parts/result/table.tt2 and parts/topnav.tt2 ... should be about the same in the bootstrap opac
11:59 alynn26 Thanks miker, I am waiting on them to come back to me.  I think we are going to try to adjust the timeouts first.  Set it for about 2 minutes then see if they are happy with that. I rather keep the options
12:09 Dyrcona Why don't they want patrons logging in? They don't want them placing holds?
12:20 jeffdavis A read-only mode would be useful during maintenance windows, fwiw.
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12:25 Dyrcona True, but we're usually doing database upgrades, etc. We have a "down for maintenance site" that we activate during those down times.
12:30 jeffdavis I was imagining a maintenance server that is basically a copy of production, with login disabled to prevent holds, renewals etc while "real" production is upgraded. I should try setting up a server without open-ils.auth to see if that works.
12:35 JBoyer I'm going to guess unless this library is a prison (users can't access it anyway) or school (have never cared before) that this is a spectacularly patron-hostile idea with equally bad reasoning.
12:35 JBoyer Something something "We know our patrons, they're never going to want to do that."
12:47 jeffdavis As a patron, when my library's ILS has been down, I've been grateful to still be able to search the catalogue via the discovery layer. I don't know the actual use case here though.
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13:28 Dyrcona We have some associate members or whatever who place holds for their patrons, but their patrons are not in the system, so they can't login.
14:13 miker JBoyer: you mean you /don't/ recommend just changing the PG user that EG uses to be RO and letting users flail against a RO replica? ;)
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14:59 Dyrcona I was just curious what motivates the request to block patrons from logging in. I can think of reasons.
15:12 alynn26 Dyrcona, I think more patron privacy then anything, was the concern.
15:18 Dyrcona OK. I wasn't expecting that one.
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15:32 Bmagic Dyrcona gmcharlt: alright, this one will* require a core committer. to Evergreen: https://git.evergreen-ils.org/?p=working/​Evergreen.git;a=shortlog;h=refs/heads/use​r/blake/antora-search-index-latest-only
15:33 gmcharlt Bmagic: I'll grab it now. Just needed for master?
15:33 Bmagic yeah, just master
15:34 Bmagic and that does it for my momentary EG docs fixes :)
15:34 Bmagic (for today anyway)
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15:35 Bmagic though, it's probably worth mentioning that I've synced our docs skin from the antora default UI repo (bringing in all the latest stuff with our stuff on top) - and the new footer is now on production (the blurb about emailing DIG)
15:36 pinesol [evergreen|blake] docs: Antora search index limit to master plus new switch - <http://git.evergreen-ils.org/?p=​Evergreen.git;a=commit;h=9eae8a6>
15:36 Bmagic ty gmcharlt
15:38 Bmagic lunr (as far as I can tell) doesn't feature the ability to show search results per version of Evergreen, so I prefer (and I am sure most of you will agree) that the search results only show results from "latest" - instead of showing triple results for each version of Evergreen that's indexed
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18:01 pinesol News from qatests: Failed Installing Angular web client <http://testing.evergreen-ils.org/~live//arch​ive/2021-04/2021-04-15_16:00:02/test.29.html>

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