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pinesol |
News from qatests: Testing Success <http://testing.evergreen-ils.org/~live> |
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rfrasur |
gmcharlt, are you available? |
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gmcharlt |
rfrasur: what's up? |
| 11:21 |
csharp |
can anyone who batchloads OverDrive records comment on how that works and whether there are problems doing so, including record quality/findability? |
| 11:21 |
csharp |
we're having an internal discussion on that option pending development of integration with OD's search APIs or whatever |
| 11:22 |
jvwoolf |
csharp: mllewell is doing training right now, but I can ask her to pop in when she's done |
| 11:23 |
jvwoolf |
Or I'm sure she would be willing to answer some questions by email |
| 11:24 |
jvwoolf |
csharp: But I know from discussions with her that it's a pain in the neck, and she is very excited about that development |
| 11:40 |
csharp |
are there any serious development efforts in motion to do OverDrive API integration? |
| 11:43 |
csharp |
s/do/do further/ |
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rfrasur |
Hmm, we do batchloads, but I don't. rjackson_isl_hom, do you have some info about this? |
| 11:47 |
rjackson_isl_hom |
will have to get back pm this - been a while since reviewing the scripts involved. It does require some hand holding if I am thinking about the correct set of scripts/data |
| 11:47 |
rjackson_isl_hom |
s/pm/on |
| 11:48 |
rfrasur |
csharp: this is something that's been prioritized by ECDI, but we'll need to discuss what that actually means when we meet to go over those priorities. |
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csharp |
rfrasur: 10-4 |
| 12:29 |
csharp |
rfrasur: we're just surveying the landscape - it's definitely high on our list of dev projects |
| 12:30 |
csharp |
s/dev projects/preferred ECDI dev projects/ |
| 12:30 |
rfrasur |
I think there's an imperative for it since the acquisition of RB Digital. For Evergreen Indiana, there's also the additional nuance of needing to support multiple OD consortia. |
| 12:35 |
csharp |
sounds fun! |
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mmorgan |
csharp: I'm forwarding via email some information from my colleague who maintains the OverDrive records. |
| 12:44 |
csharp |
mmorgan: thanks! |
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csharp |
rfrasur++ rjackson_isl_hom++ |
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csharp |
mmorgan++ jvwoolf++ |
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JBoyer |
FYI: The Evergreen Project Board Meeting commences in 10 mins. |
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JBoyer |
One hasty meetbot script edit later... |
| 14:02 |
JBoyer |
It's that time folks |
| 14:02 |
JBoyer |
#startmeeting EOB/Evergreen Project Board meeting for 2020-11-19, agenda: https://wiki.evergreen-ils.org/doku.php?id=governance:minutes:2020-11-19 |
| 14:02 |
pinesol |
Meeting started Thu Nov 19 14:02:02 2020 US/Eastern. The chair is JBoyer. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. |
| 14:02 |
pinesol |
Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. |
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Topic for #evergreen is now (Meeting topic: EOB/Evergreen Project Board meeting for 2020-11-19, agenda: https://wiki.evergreen-ils.org/doku.php?id=governance:minutes:2020-11-19) |
| 14:02 |
pinesol |
The meeting name has been set to 'eob_evergreen_project_board_meeting_for_2020_11_19__agenda__https___wiki_evergreen_ils_org_doku_php_id_governance_minutes_2020_11_19' |
| 14:02 |
JBoyer |
#topic Roll Call |
| 14:02 |
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Topic for #evergreen is now Roll Call (Meeting topic: EOB/Evergreen Project Board meeting for 2020-11-19, agenda: https://wiki.evergreen-ils.org/doku.php?id=governance:minutes:2020-11-19) |
| 14:02 |
rhamby |
#info rhamby = Rogan Hamby, Equinox Open Library Initiative |
| 14:02 |
JBoyer |
#info JBoyer = Jason Boyer, Equinox |
| 14:02 |
dluch |
#info dluch = Debbie Luchenbill, MOBIUS |
| 14:02 |
tlittle |
#info tlittle = Tiffany Little, PINES |
| 14:02 |
jlundgren |
#info jlundgren = Jeanette Lundgren, CW MARS |
| 14:02 |
agoben |
#info agoben = Anna Goben, Independent |
| 14:02 |
gmcharlt |
#info gmcharlt = Galen Charlton, Equinox |
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Cowens |
#info Cowens = Chris Owens COOL/BPL |
| 14:03 |
JBoyer |
Chris B and Jessica can info in when they arrive. |
| 14:03 |
JBoyer |
#topic Approval of the minutes |
| 14:03 |
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Topic for #evergreen is now Approval of the minutes (Meeting topic: EOB/Evergreen Project Board meeting for 2020-11-19, agenda: https://wiki.evergreen-ils.org/doku.php?id=governance:minutes:2020-11-19) |
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JBoyer |
minutes are available at https://evergreen-ils.org/meetings/evergreen/2020/evergreen.2020-10-15-14.00.html |
| 14:04 |
JBoyer |
minutes from the 10/15 meeting, that is. |
| 14:04 |
jvwoolf |
#info jvwoolf = Jessica Woolford, Bibliomation |
| 14:04 |
agoben |
Move to approve the minutes as presented. |
| 14:04 |
nfBurton |
#info cburton = Chris Burton, NFPL |
| 14:04 |
JBoyer |
any seconds? Thanksgiving approaches |
| 14:05 |
dluch |
seconded |
| 14:05 |
JBoyer |
#vote Approve the minutes of the 2020-10-15 Evergreen Project Meeting |
| 14:05 |
JBoyer |
#vote Approve the minutes of the 2020-10-15 Evergreen Project Meeting? yes no abstain |
| 14:05 |
jvwoolf |
#vote yes |
| 14:05 |
tlittle |
#vote yes |
| 14:05 |
jlundgren |
#vote yes |
| 14:05 |
Cowens |
#vote yes |
| 14:05 |
dluch |
#vote yes |
| 14:05 |
agoben |
#vote yes |
| 14:05 |
nfBurton |
#vote yes |
| 14:05 |
JBoyer |
#vote yes |
| 14:05 |
gmcharlt |
#vote yes |
| 14:05 |
JBoyer |
though I don't think it's working. |
| 14:06 |
JBoyer |
OH, bah. startvote. |
| 14:06 |
JBoyer |
#startvote Approve the minutes of the 2020-10-15 Evergreen Project Meeting? yes no abstain |
| 14:06 |
pinesol |
Begin voting on: Approve the minutes of the 2020-10-15 Evergreen Project Meeting? Valid vote options are yes, no, abstain. |
| 14:06 |
pinesol |
Vote using '#vote OPTION'. Only your last vote counts. |
| 14:06 |
JBoyer |
#vote yes |
| 14:06 |
nfBurton |
#vote yes |
| 14:06 |
dluch |
#vote yes |
| 14:06 |
tlittle |
#vote yes |
| 14:06 |
agoben |
#vote yes |
| 14:06 |
gmcharlt |
#vote yes |
| 14:06 |
jlundgren |
#vote yes |
| 14:06 |
jvwoolf |
#vote yes |
| 14:06 |
JBoyer |
#endvote |
| 14:06 |
pinesol |
Voted on "Approve the minutes of the 2020-10-15 Evergreen Project Meeting?" Results are |
| 14:06 |
pinesol |
yes (8): nfBurton, JBoyer, agoben, tlittle, jlundgren, jvwoolf, gmcharlt, dluch |
| 14:06 |
JBoyer |
Thanks |
| 14:07 |
JBoyer |
#topic Chair Report |
| 14:07 |
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Topic for #evergreen is now Chair Report (Meeting topic: EOB/Evergreen Project Board meeting for 2020-11-19, agenda: https://wiki.evergreen-ils.org/doku.php?id=governance:minutes:2020-11-19) |
| 14:07 |
JBoyer |
I don't have any updates at present. Except I suppose that I'm not who would usually make this update. Surprise. |
| 14:07 |
JBoyer |
moving on.. |
| 14:07 |
agoben |
#info agoben stepped down as Chair due to new job |
| 14:07 |
csharp |
agoben++ # we hardly knew ye |
| 14:08 |
dluch |
agoben++ |
| 14:08 |
JBoyer |
agoben++ |
| 14:08 |
jvwoolf |
agoben++ |
| 14:08 |
gmcharlt |
agoben++ |
| 14:08 |
tlittle |
agoben++ |
| 14:08 |
nfBurton |
agoben++ |
| 14:08 |
JBoyer |
note quite gone. :) |
| 14:08 |
JBoyer |
#topic Financial Report |
| 14:08 |
|
Topic for #evergreen is now Financial Report (Meeting topic: EOB/Evergreen Project Board meeting for 2020-11-19, agenda: https://wiki.evergreen-ils.org/doku.php?id=governance:minutes:2020-11-19) |
| 14:08 |
jlundgren |
agoben++ |
| 14:08 |
agoben |
I"m still out there and happily using my personal EVG instance, so I'm here ;) |
| 14:08 |
agoben |
Thanks all! |
| 14:08 |
gmcharlt |
agoben++ # personal EG instance |
| 14:08 |
dluch |
:-) |
| 14:08 |
agoben |
How else would I keep track of my books? |
| 14:08 |
agoben |
;) |
| 14:09 |
dluch |
lol! |
| 14:09 |
tlittle |
Ha! :D |
| 14:09 |
jvwoolf |
Mic drop |
| 14:09 |
csharp |
jvwoolf++ |
| 14:09 |
tlittle |
lol |
| 14:09 |
dluch |
jvwoolf++ |
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| 14:10 |
JBoyer |
Any financial news, gmcharlt ? |
| 14:10 |
gmcharlt |
#info We have $36,464.74 in hand in accounts under the control of TEP and MOBIUS |
| 14:10 |
gmcharlt |
#info To our knowledge, $22,575.76 is held by SFC |
| 14:10 |
gmcharlt |
#info We have received $22,125 in donations since the venue cancellation, with a further $7,500 in pledges expected to come in shortly |
| 14:10 |
gmcharlt |
#info We have received no acknowledgement from SFC of our request to transfer assets to TEP. Initial request was sent on 10/10 with a reminder from agoben on 10/23 |
| 14:10 |
gmcharlt |
#info Our 990 was accepted; no queries or commentary received from the IRS. |
| 14:10 |
gmcharlt |
#info I have started work on our GuideStar profile and plan on continuing with tlittle's help |
| 14:11 |
JBoyer |
All good news, save the no-news about our SFC request. |
| 14:11 |
dluch |
Boo SFC |
| 14:11 |
agoben |
It's very disappointing |
| 14:11 |
gmcharlt |
#info We are now caught up on back invoices to our attorney |
| 14:11 |
agoben |
(Just the SFC part.....the rest is awesome!) |
| 14:12 |
gmcharlt |
#info We have taken over direct payment of our QuickBooks service |
| 14:12 |
gmcharlt |
#info We recently paid $480 to MOBIUS for professional services and are up to date w.r.t. our account with them |
| 14:12 |
gmcharlt |
#info 990 filing fee was $38 |
| 14:12 |
gmcharlt |
fin |
| 14:12 |
gmcharlt |
any questions for me? |
| 14:13 |
dluch |
gmcharlt++ |
| 14:13 |
agoben |
gmcharlt++ |
| 14:13 |
rfrasur |
gmcharlt++ |
| 14:13 |
JBoyer |
not from me. |
| 14:13 |
JBoyer |
gmcharlt++ |
| 14:13 |
jvwoolf |
gmcharlt++ |
| 14:13 |
tlittle |
gmcharlt++ |
| 14:13 |
jlundgren |
gmcharlt++ |
| 14:13 |
nfBurton |
gmcharlt++ |
| 14:13 |
JBoyer |
#topic SFC transition update |
| 14:13 |
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Topic for #evergreen is now SFC transition update (Meeting topic: EOB/Evergreen Project Board meeting for 2020-11-19, agenda: https://wiki.evergreen-ils.org/doku.php?id=governance:minutes:2020-11-19) |
| 14:14 |
agoben |
That's been a lot to accomplish and manage over the last month! Thanks so much for all the extra time and effort |
| 14:14 |
JBoyer |
#info No news since last meeting |
| 14:14 |
dluch |
Do we need to poke them again? |
| 14:14 |
JBoyer |
#action JBoyer will try to get in touch re: our request. |
| 14:14 |
JBoyer |
yup |
| 14:14 |
nfBurton |
Is the money our last tie to the SFC? |
| 14:14 |
dluch |
lol |
| 14:14 |
agoben |
Trademark |
| 14:14 |
gmcharlt |
nfBurton: the money and the Evergreen trademarks |
| 14:14 |
nfBurton |
Ah okay |
| 14:14 |
gmcharlt |
ah, also, adminsitrative control of our DNS domains |
| 14:15 |
JBoyer |
Oh, I didn't realize that was involved. |
| 14:15 |
tlittle |
Me neither |
| 14:15 |
agoben |
Maybe if they don't respond to JBoyer in a week or two we should have Dilly reach out? |
| 14:15 |
JBoyer |
Seems reasonable to me. |
| 14:15 |
gmcharlt |
yeah, I think that will have to be next step |
| 14:15 |
dluch |
+1 to that |
| 14:15 |
tlittle |
+1 |
| 14:15 |
nfBurton |
+1 |
| 14:15 |
jlundgren |
+1 |
| 14:16 |
JBoyer |
If there's no further questions or comments re: SFC we'll move on to release team updates |
| 14:16 |
JBoyer |
#topic Release Team Updates |
| 14:16 |
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Topic for #evergreen is now Release Team Updates (Meeting topic: EOB/Evergreen Project Board meeting for 2020-11-19, agenda: https://wiki.evergreen-ils.org/doku.php?id=governance:minutes:2020-11-19) |
| 14:17 |
tlittle |
#action If SFC doesn't respond to JBoyer, we will ask Dilly to reach out to them |
| 14:17 |
tlittle |
Sorry about that, I was too slow |
| 14:18 |
JBoyer |
I can get a little carried away on occasion since my meetings run anywhere from 20 minutes to an hour 40. :) |
| 14:18 |
dluch |
lol |
| 14:19 |
tlittle |
Hah, no worries, I was just listening/watching and realized, oh duh, I should probably action/info that :D |
| 14:19 |
JBoyer |
Any updates from the 3.7 release team? All I have from 3.6 is that I'm going to try to get 3.6.1 put together asap. |
| 14:20 |
JBoyer |
moving on then |
| 14:20 |
gmcharlt |
main update for 3.7 is that we're getting ourselves organized, I believe |
| 14:20 |
JBoyer |
gmcharlt++ It is a little early days to have much to report I suppose |
| 14:21 |
JBoyer |
#topic Hack-a-way Update |
| 14:21 |
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Topic for #evergreen is now Hack-a-way Update (Meeting topic: EOB/Evergreen Project Board meeting for 2020-11-19, agenda: https://wiki.evergreen-ils.org/doku.php?id=governance:minutes:2020-11-19) |
| 14:21 |
rhamby |
updates were sent to the board list earlier today so questions are welcome. the hack-a-way went well and we're now counting down to the online conference. |
| 14:21 |
JBoyer |
rhamby++ |
| 14:21 |
jlundgren |
rhamby++ |
| 14:21 |
jvwoolf |
rhamby++ |
| 14:21 |
agoben |
rhamby++ |
| 14:21 |
tlittle |
rhamby++ |
| 14:21 |
gmcharlt |
rhamby++ |
| 14:21 |
nfBurton |
rhamby++ |
| 14:21 |
JBoyer |
I was a fan of the platform, your recommendations would make another conference using it significantly better. |
| 14:21 |
rhamby |
but if anyone has a tardis available for loan I'd welcome the means to squeeze additional hours into the day :) |
| 14:21 |
rfrasur |
rhamby++ |
| 14:22 |
gmcharlt |
alas, I seem to have mislaid mine |
| 14:22 |
rhamby |
yeah, we need to have a bit of a formal comparision of zoom vs hopin still (on my to do list) but I think the conference would work well on hopin |
| 14:22 |
dluch |
rhamby++ |
| 14:22 |
gmcharlt |
dratted thing has a _functional_ chameleon circuit |
| 14:22 |
csharp |
time turners work well for that too rhamby |
| 14:22 |
rhamby |
gmcharlt: when you don't want things to work ... |
| 14:23 |
rhamby |
and I would like to recognize abneiman who will head up the online conference organizing as part of outreach and I know she'll do a great job just as she did last time |
| 14:23 |
JBoyer |
abneiman++ |
| 14:23 |
dluch |
abneiman++ |
| 14:23 |
jlundgren |
abneiman++ |
| 14:23 |
tlittle |
abneiman++ |
| 14:23 |
agoben |
abneiman++ |
| 14:23 |
gmcharlt |
abneiman++ |
| 14:23 |
JBoyer |
looking forward to that. |
| 14:23 |
jvwoolf |
abneiman++ |
| 14:24 |
nfBurton |
abneiman++ |
| 14:24 |
rhamby |
so that's all from me |
| 14:25 |
JBoyer |
Aha! |
| 14:25 |
JBoyer |
#info rhamby's update was sent to the board list and is available at http://list.evergreen-ils.org/pipermail/board/2020-November/000202.html |
| 14:25 |
JBoyer |
Took me a bit to locate. |
| 14:25 |
JBoyer |
that brings us to outreach |
| 14:25 |
JBoyer |
#topic Outreach Update |
| 14:25 |
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Topic for #evergreen is now Outreach Update (Meeting topic: EOB/Evergreen Project Board meeting for 2020-11-19, agenda: https://wiki.evergreen-ils.org/doku.php?id=governance:minutes:2020-11-19) |
| 14:26 |
JBoyer |
Any update from the outreach committee? or is the hackaway / conference update taking its place this month? |
| 14:26 |
rhamby |
same as above really |
| 14:26 |
JBoyer |
That works. |
| 14:26 |
JBoyer |
#topic Fundraising Subcommittee Update |
| 14:26 |
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Topic for #evergreen is now Fundraising Subcommittee Update (Meeting topic: EOB/Evergreen Project Board meeting for 2020-11-19, agenda: https://wiki.evergreen-ils.org/doku.php?id=governance:minutes:2020-11-19) |
| 14:27 |
agoben |
Have we met yet? |
| 14:27 |
agoben |
(My email has been a bit wonky since it changed.) |
| 14:27 |
dluch |
Nope |
| 14:27 |
gmcharlt |
no... so action item time! |
| 14:27 |
agoben |
Ok, was afraid I'd missed it. |
| 14:27 |
tlittle |
I just added it into the agenda as a placeholder since we'd talked about forming it last meeting |
| 14:28 |
tlittle |
Or, it was formed last meeting, whatever is more proper to say |
| 14:28 |
gmcharlt |
I'll call a meeting, shooting for the first two weeks of December |
| 14:28 |
dluch |
sounds good |
| 14:28 |
agoben |
++ |
| 14:28 |
gmcharlt |
AKA, Februvember 267th |
| 14:28 |
JBoyer |
I was taking too long to ask who would like the item, thanks gmcharlt. :) |
| 14:28 |
dluch |
gmcharlt++ |
| 14:28 |
jvwoolf |
gmcharlt++ |
| 14:28 |
tlittle |
gmcharlt++ |
| 14:28 |
agoben |
gmcharlt++ |
| 14:28 |
jlundgren |
gmcharlt++ |
| 14:29 |
JBoyer |
#action gmcharlt will organize the first meeting of the fundraising subcommittee |
| 14:29 |
JBoyer |
Time for a blast from the past. |
| 14:29 |
JBoyer |
#topic Old Business |
| 14:29 |
|
Topic for #evergreen is now Old Business (Meeting topic: EOB/Evergreen Project Board meeting for 2020-11-19, agenda: https://wiki.evergreen-ils.org/doku.php?id=governance:minutes:2020-11-19) |
| 14:29 |
JBoyer |
#topic 2021 Conference Cancellation |
| 14:29 |
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Topic for #evergreen is now 2021 Conference Cancellation (Meeting topic: EOB/Evergreen Project Board meeting for 2020-11-19, agenda: https://wiki.evergreen-ils.org/doku.php?id=governance:minutes:2020-11-19) |
| 14:30 |
JBoyer |
dluch, any word from the venue? |
| 14:30 |
dluch |
SIGH. I have had zero response after Mark's acknowledgement of my cancellation email. |
| 14:30 |
dluch |
No invoice or anything |
| 14:31 |
agoben |
Has the MOBIUS lawyer had a chance to reach out yet? |
| 14:31 |
dluch |
I created a timeline of all the stuff for Dale, the MOBIUS lawyer. He also wants a copy of all the actual emails, so I'm working on htat |
| 14:31 |
JBoyer |
So on the one hand, they want all of our money, but on the other hand, they want none of our money. Not ideal. |
| 14:31 |
dluch |
also that |
| 14:31 |
dluch |
JBoyer yes, lol |
| 14:32 |
dluch |
I'd hoped to have the emails doc to him this morning, but life intevened |
| 14:32 |
tlittle |
Has the lawyer reached out to them at all, or is he waiting on the documentation? |
| 14:32 |
agoben |
While we're waiting on the SFC, I guess it's good that they're not demanding payment 2 weeks ago, but still... |
| 14:32 |
dluch |
He's waiting. I think to be able to have a forceful argument |
| 14:33 |
dluch |
and all the info |
| 14:33 |
JBoyer |
Well if there is anything that any of us can do to assist please let us know |
| 14:33 |
JBoyer |
dluch++ |
| 14:33 |
tlittle |
I am super suspicious that the hotel has totally ghosted you |
| 14:33 |
dluch |
It's my fault it hasn't gotten done before, sorry |
| 14:33 |
dluch |
tlittle: Me, too |
| 14:33 |
gmcharlt |
dluch: what is the general COVID-19 situation in MO? |
| 14:34 |
agoben |
They've been pretty suspicious since the contract was signed. :/ |
| 14:34 |
dluch |
Everything's on the rise here. And no coordinated regulation whatsoever. |
| 14:34 |
tlittle |
I feel like they're going to try to put the burden back on us for non-payment even though they haven't responded to us |
| 14:35 |
agoben |
You've asked about the cancellation invoice, right? |
| 14:35 |
agoben |
And they're just not responding? |
| 14:35 |
dluch |
And we're surrounded by almost all of the top 10 highest states, including Kansas, just across the border from where the hotel is. |
| 14:36 |
dluch |
Correct. Last communication, Mark was going to have billing send us an invoice. |
| 14:36 |
agoben |
++ |
| 14:37 |
dluch |
I haven't done any other communication, because I think we should let Dale do any communicating from here on out. |
| 14:38 |
dluch |
I definitely think there's a strong argument for force majeure |
| 14:38 |
agoben |
Seems that way more and more every day again. |
| 14:38 |
tlittle |
Yep |
| 14:38 |
dluch |
Yep |
| 14:39 |
agoben |
Will look forward to hearing Dale's take once he has the rest of everything! |
| 14:39 |
dluch |
Me, too! Fingers crossed! |
| 14:39 |
agoben |
++ |
| 14:39 |
JBoyer |
Indeed, please keep us up to date on board@ or board-private@ depending on the content. |
| 14:39 |
JBoyer |
dluch++ |
| 14:39 |
tlittle |
dluch++ |
| 14:39 |
agoben |
dluch++ |
| 14:39 |
dluch |
Absolutely. Will do |
| 14:39 |
jvwoolf |
dluch++ |
| 14:39 |
jlundgren |
dluch++ |
| 14:39 |
gmcharlt |
dluch++ |
| 14:40 |
JBoyer |
Up next are taxes. Let me find my party hat. |
| 14:40 |
JBoyer |
#topic 2020 990 tax return |
| 14:40 |
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Topic for #evergreen is now 2020 990 tax return (Meeting topic: EOB/Evergreen Project Board meeting for 2020-11-19, agenda: https://wiki.evergreen-ils.org/doku.php?id=governance:minutes:2020-11-19) |
| 14:41 |
JBoyer |
#info The 990 has been submitted to the IRS and it has been accepted |
| 14:41 |
agoben |
Celebrating the calm receipt thereof! |
| 14:41 |
gmcharlt |
at this point, the primary item I see for discussion is making public disclosure of it on our website or via GuideStar |
| 14:41 |
dluch |
Woohoo! |
| 14:41 |
gmcharlt |
which is easy enough to do either way |
| 14:41 |
agoben |
I'm in favor of making it public. |
| 14:42 |
gmcharlt |
although making big updates to the website describing our governance will be easier to do once we have a timeframe from the speparation from SFC |
| 14:42 |
agoben |
That seems to help with fundraising efforts |
| 14:42 |
gmcharlt |
yeah, and very concretely, it would get us points towards a higher level of badge on GuideStar |
| 14:43 |
* dluch |
throws confetti |
| 14:43 |
agoben |
But I think it's also fair to revisit next month when we hopefully have more from the SFC |
| 14:43 |
gmcharlt |
agreed |
| 14:43 |
JBoyer |
So would it be best then to make it available on GuideStar for now and the site once we have more substantive governance updates? |
| 14:44 |
tlittle |
I think that's fair |
| 14:44 |
gmcharlt |
+1 |
| 14:44 |
dluch |
Sounds reasonable |
| 14:44 |
agoben |
+1 |
| 14:44 |
gmcharlt |
actually, I think it's worth a motion, which I'll make |
| 14:45 |
gmcharlt |
motion: The 2020 990 shall be posted publicly, including on GuideStar and subsequently on the evergreen-ils.org website once the separation from SFC is complete. |
| 14:45 |
agoben |
Second |
| 14:45 |
agoben |
Oh, um, shouldn't that be the 2019? |
| 14:45 |
gmcharlt |
er, yeah, 2019 |
| 14:45 |
gmcharlt |
I know kung-fu^W time |
| 14:46 |
dluch |
lol |
| 14:46 |
gmcharlt |
so please consider my motion revised to say "2019" |
| 14:46 |
agoben |
I'm still seconding |
| 14:46 |
JBoyer |
#startvote Shall the 2019 990 be posted publicly, including on GuideStar and subsequently on the evergreen-ils.org website once the separation from SFC is complete? yes no abstain |
| 14:46 |
pinesol |
Begin voting on: Shall the 2019 990 be posted publicly, including on GuideStar and subsequently on the evergreen-ils.org website once the separation from SFC is complete? Valid vote options are yes, no, abstain. |
| 14:46 |
pinesol |
Vote using '#vote OPTION'. Only your last vote counts. |
| 14:46 |
nfBurton |
#vote yes |
| 14:46 |
JBoyer |
#vote yes |
| 14:46 |
jvwoolf |
#vote yes |
| 14:46 |
dluch |
#vote yes |
| 14:46 |
gmcharlt |
#vote yes |
| 14:46 |
agoben |
#vote yes |
| 14:46 |
jlundgren |
#vote yes |
| 14:46 |
Cowens |
#vote yes |
| 14:46 |
tlittle |
#vote yes |
| 14:46 |
JBoyer |
#endvote |
| 14:46 |
pinesol |
Voted on "Shall the 2019 990 be posted publicly, including on GuideStar and subsequently on the evergreen-ils.org website once the separation from SFC is complete?" Results are |
| 14:46 |
pinesol |
yes (9): nfBurton, JBoyer, jvwoolf, agoben, tlittle, jlundgren, gmcharlt, dluch, Cowens |
| 14:47 |
JBoyer |
gmcharlt++ |
| 14:47 |
tlittle |
gmcharlt++ |
| 14:47 |
dluch |
gmcharlt++ |
| 14:47 |
agoben |
gmcharlt++ |
| 14:47 |
nfBurton |
gmcharlt++ |
| 14:47 |
jlundgren |
gmcharlt++ |
| 14:47 |
JBoyer |
ok, not certain where the next item will be with no contact from the hotel or SFC, but let's hear about it |
| 14:47 |
JBoyer |
#topic Commerce Bank Account |
| 14:47 |
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Topic for #evergreen is now Commerce Bank Account (Meeting topic: EOB/Evergreen Project Board meeting for 2020-11-19, agenda: https://wiki.evergreen-ils.org/doku.php?id=governance:minutes:2020-11-19) |
| 14:47 |
JBoyer |
Any movement to report here, or just waiting for the above? |
| 14:48 |
gmcharlt |
just waiting |
| 14:48 |
JBoyer |
easy enough |
| 14:48 |
agoben |
Is there any value in transferring the funds so we're only paying one set of maintenance fees while we wait? |
| 14:48 |
tlittle |
At the last meeting we voted to close that account. Are we going to wait until we hear from the hotel to do that? |
| 14:49 |
JBoyer |
tlittle, I believe the assumption was that everything in it would be needed to pay the cancellation fees, yes |
| 14:49 |
gmcharlt |
IIRC, the Commerce account has no service fees |
| 14:50 |
JBoyer |
Not sure anyone thought it would take this long to get an invoice. |
| 14:50 |
agoben |
I thought it did. If not then, no worries. |
| 14:50 |
agoben |
And agreed, I was expecting the invoice 3 weeks ago. |
| 14:51 |
JBoyer |
onward toward the New, then |
| 14:51 |
JBoyer |
#topic New Business |
| 14:51 |
|
Topic for #evergreen is now New Business (Meeting topic: EOB/Evergreen Project Board meeting for 2020-11-19, agenda: https://wiki.evergreen-ils.org/doku.php?id=governance:minutes:2020-11-19) |
| 14:51 |
agoben |
So, who's going to be the chair for the rest of this term? |
| 14:52 |
agoben |
It's only 5 more meetings! |
| 14:52 |
JBoyer |
I suppose we'll start there. :) I'm willing to be board chair, jvwoolf has offered to be vice chair. Or president / VP, I don't recall our official titles. |
| 14:52 |
gmcharlt |
since I am aware of no other nominations, I nominate JBoyer to assume the position of chair until the next board elections |
| 14:52 |
nfBurton |
I would second |
| 14:53 |
gmcharlt |
and I further nominate jvwoolf to be vice chair until the next board elections |
| 14:53 |
dluch |
I'd second that |
| 14:53 |
gmcharlt |
#startvote shall Jason Boyer be elected chair of TEP until the next board elections? yes, no, abstain |
| 14:53 |
pinesol |
Only the meeting chair may start a vote. |
| 14:54 |
JBoyer |
#startvote Shall JBoyer be named board chair, and jvwoolf named vice chair of The Evergreen Project board? yes no abstain |
| 14:54 |
pinesol |
Begin voting on: Shall JBoyer be named board chair, and jvwoolf named vice chair of The Evergreen Project board? Valid vote options are yes, no, abstain. |
| 14:54 |
pinesol |
Vote using '#vote OPTION'. Only your last vote counts. |
| 14:54 |
tlittle |
#vote yes |
| 14:54 |
agoben |
#vote yes |
| 14:54 |
JBoyer |
#vote abstain |
| 14:54 |
Cowens |
#vote yes |
| 14:54 |
dluch |
#vote yes |
| 14:54 |
jvwoolf |
#vote yes |
| 14:54 |
nfBurton |
#vote yes |
| 14:54 |
gmcharlt |
#vote yes |
| 14:54 |
JBoyer |
(seemed the proper thing to do) |
| 14:54 |
JBoyer |
#endvote |
| 14:54 |
pinesol |
Voted on "Shall JBoyer be named board chair, and jvwoolf named vice chair of The Evergreen Project board?" Results are |
| 14:54 |
pinesol |
yes (7): nfBurton, jvwoolf, agoben, tlittle, gmcharlt, dluch, Cowens |
| 14:54 |
pinesol |
abstain (1): JBoyer |
| 14:54 |
jlundgren |
#vote yes |
| 14:55 |
jvwoolf |
Oops, I thought I was only voting for JBoyer or I would have abstained too |
| 14:55 |
JBoyer |
oops, sorry for being too impatient jlundgren . :) |
| 14:55 |
jlundgren |
I had to step away for a moment! |
| 14:55 |
gmcharlt |
self-votes are perfectly fine! |
| 14:55 |
dluch |
It's totally fine to vote for yourself! |
| 14:55 |
JBoyer |
WIth no alternatives for either seat I didn't see a lot of point in breaking it up, and I couldn't imagine a lot of drama over either choice. |
| 14:55 |
agoben |
Congrats to you both and thanks for taking it on! |
| 14:56 |
tlittle |
JBoyer++ jvwoolf++ |
| 14:56 |
nfBurton |
JBoyer++ jvwoolf++ |
| 14:56 |
jlundgren |
jboyer++ jvwoolf++ |
| 14:56 |
dluch |
JBoyer++, jvwoof++ |
| 14:56 |
Cowens |
JBoyer++ jvwoolf++ |
| 14:56 |
dluch |
also jvwoolf++ |
| 14:56 |
agoben |
JBoyer++ |
| 14:56 |
agoben |
jvwoolf++ |
| 14:56 |
gmcharlt |
JBoyer++ |
| 14:56 |
JBoyer |
jvwoolf++ |
| 14:56 |
gmcharlt |
jvwoolf++ |
| 14:56 |
jvwoolf |
JBoyer: We're ending our terms in style :) |
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* JBoyer |
buys some new shades |
| 14:57 |
tlittle |
lol |
| 14:57 |
jvwoolf |
They go well with your party hat |
| 14:57 |
JBoyer |
My tax party hat. Quite the stylish look for 2020. |
| 14:57 |
jvwoolf |
LOL |
| 14:57 |
dluch |
lol! |
| 14:58 |
JBoyer |
#action JBoyer will inform Dilly of our change of officers and look into any necessary paperwork |
| 14:58 |
JBoyer |
That brings us to |
| 14:58 |
JBoyer |
#topic Meeting Format |
| 14:58 |
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Topic for #evergreen is now Meeting Format (Meeting topic: EOB/Evergreen Project Board meeting for 2020-11-19, agenda: https://wiki.evergreen-ils.org/doku.php?id=governance:minutes:2020-11-19) |
| 14:59 |
JBoyer |
Which I don't recall anything about. Who wants to talk about that? |
| 14:59 |
tlittle |
Oh whoops, I put that in and I guess pinesol has called me out for changing it |
| 14:59 |
tlittle |
That's my bad |
| 14:59 |
JBoyer |
No changes then, no problem. :) |
| 15:00 |
JBoyer |
Any announcements or comments before I drop the next meeting date and the mic? |
| 15:00 |
JBoyer |
Hearing none, here it comes |
| 15:00 |
JBoyer |
#info Next Meeting 2020-12-17 |
| 15:00 |
JBoyer |
See you in December. |
| 15:00 |
JBoyer |
#endmeeting |
| 15:00 |
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| 15:00 |
pinesol |
Meeting ended Thu Nov 19 15:00:47 2020 US/Eastern. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) |
| 15:00 |
pinesol |
Minutes: http://evergreen-ils.org/meetings/evergreen/2020/evergreen.2020-11-19-14.02.html |
| 15:00 |
pinesol |
Minutes (text): http://evergreen-ils.org/meetings/evergreen/2020/evergreen.2020-11-19-14.02.txt |
| 15:00 |
pinesol |
Log: http://evergreen-ils.org/meetings/evergreen/2020/evergreen.2020-11-19-14.02.log.html |
| 15:00 |
dluch |
JBoyer++ |
| 15:00 |
agoben |
JBoyer++ |
| 15:00 |
tlittle |
JBoyer++ |
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jvwoolf |
JBoyer++ |
| 15:01 |
Cowens |
JBoyer++ |
| 15:01 |
jlundgren |
JBoyer++ |
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| 15:01 |
nfBurton |
JBoyer++ |
| 15:01 |
jlundgren |
I have a conflict next meeting and won't be able to join you all. |
| 15:01 |
JBoyer |
jlundgren++ thanks for letting us know. |
| 15:01 |
jlundgren |
JBoyer not sure the protocol... |
| 15:01 |
dluch |
That is my grandma's 99th birthday! (She's in Florida, so no conflict. Just neat!) |
| 15:02 |
jlundgren |
dluch that's a happy bday! Wow 99! |
| 15:02 |
gmcharlt |
:) |
| 15:02 |
dluch |
Right?! :-) |
| 15:03 |
JBoyer |
Pretty loose! If you felt you had a Very Important Update we'd try to reschedule, same as if we can't hit a quorum. As it is though, you could always send an update to one of us if there was something you wanted in the minutes. |
| 15:04 |
jlundgren |
JBoyer thanks! No Very Important Update expected. I'll catch up on the minutes. Too many December meetings! |
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| 15:05 |
JBoyer |
Agreed! |
| 15:05 |
jvwoolf |
Yeah, what's up with that? Usually everything slows down around holiday time. |
| 15:06 |
dluch |
#2020 |
| 15:06 |
JBoyer |
hah, dluch++ |
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mmorgan |
I'm trying to build a vm using VirtualBox and berick's ansible scripts. The build has been failing each time. Are there guidelines that cover what the Ubuntu installation needs prior to running the ansible scripts? And is it better to go with 16.04 or 18.04? |
| 16:43 |
Bmagic |
mmorgan: either one should work |
| 16:44 |
berick |
mmorgan: the docs are meant to guide from a fresh VM |
| 16:44 |
berick |
either should work, i recommend 18.04 becuase it's more lately maintained at this point |
| 16:44 |
berick |
s/lately/recently |
| 16:44 |
berick |
mmorgan: what step is failing? |
| 16:44 |
Bmagic |
Anyone have an action_trigger_filters.json example handy that will filter checkout.due AND the item with a certain circulation modifier/shelving location? |
| 16:45 |
mmorgan |
I've been doing a fresh installation of Ubuntu, but not that familiar with what needs to be included in the install. |
| 16:45 |
berick |
mmorgan: you shouldn't have to include anything |
| 16:47 |
mmorgan |
berick: Ok, good to know. Seems to fail at different points. And I haven't figured out how to copy text from the VirtualBox terminal to capture the errors. |
| 16:48 |
berick |
mmorgan: k. i run the installer frequently, but I don't use Virtualbox so it's possible there's something unexpected going on the virtualbox |
| 16:48 |
berick |
s/the virtualbox/virtualbox/ |
| 16:49 |
mmorgan |
berick: What do you run for your vms? |
| 16:49 |
berick |
mmorgan: lxd which is specific to linux |
| 16:50 |
berick |
and sometimes hyper-v |
| 16:50 |
Bmagic |
it should work in Virtualbox |
| 16:51 |
mmorgan |
In the PLAY RECAP, I see ok=38 changed=35 unreachable=0 failed=1 skipped=1 rescued=0 ignored=0 The error complaines about ChromeHeadLess have not captured in 60000 ms, killing |
| 16:53 |
Bmagic |
when getting the action_trigger_filter.json file to jump from the base table to a child table like: "checkout.due": { "filter" : {"target_copy": {"location" : {"=":100} } } } - is that possible? |
| 16:54 |
mmorgan |
Bmagic: I have a copy of a filter that Dyrcona shared once, I haven't used it, but will pastebin it. |
| 16:54 |
Bmagic |
ty |
| 16:55 |
Bmagic |
I thought I remember this getting a paste a long time ago :) |
| 16:55 |
berick |
mmorgan: does this file exist? /usr/bin/chromium-browser |
| 16:56 |
pastebot |
"mmorgan" at 168.25.130.30 pasted "Dyrcona's a_t_filter with circ mod" (22 lines) at http://paste.evergreen-ils.org/10053 |
| 16:57 |
mmorgan |
berick: Yes, it does |
| 16:57 |
Bmagic |
mmorgan++ |
| 17:00 |
berick |
mmorgan: k, well, hm |
| 17:00 |
mmorgan |
Dyrcona++ |
| 17:01 |
berick |
mmorgan: could be an issue with the CHROME_BIN environment variable. it's set in the play, so it should just work, but i've had the odd case of environment settings not working in ansible |
| 17:01 |
berick |
there's a possible workaround... |
| 17:04 |
berick |
mmorgan: something like this could fix it https://gist.github.com/berick/cd39e855697e077491d69ae4107021c3 |
| 17:05 |
berick |
or you could just comment out the 2 blocks that run 'npm run test' |
| 17:05 |
berick |
since you don't have to run the tests to install |
| 17:10 |
mmorgan |
berick: Ok, thanks for the suggestions. I'll try that tomorrow. |
| 17:10 |
mmorgan |
berick++ |
| 17:10 |
mmorgan |
Good night #evergreen! |
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pinesol |
News from qatests: Testing Success <http://testing.evergreen-ils.org/~live> |
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