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06:00 pinesol News from qatests: Testing Success <http://testing.evergreen-ils.org/~live>
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10:31 csharp @who will be getting the [band] box set this year?
10:31 pinesol cmalm will be getting the Fraud Dog box set this year.
10:32 berick haha
10:32 berick that name's a keeper
10:33 cmalm i feel like that's a McGruff the Crime Dog tribute band lol
10:33 csharp it was from a quote from Brooklyn Nine Nine, but web searches aren't grabbing it right now
10:34 cmalm ahh. clearly i need to watch that again :D
10:34 jeff mcgruff was the original proponent of pianos in parks and other public spaces
10:37 csharp I have another window open exploring @band and found "Clear Cache and Hard Reload"
10:37 csharp which made me lol
10:38 berick another keeper
10:39 Bmagic :)
10:39 berick jeff: huh, gotta be hard to keep a field piano in tune
10:39 csharp repeat business for the tuning company :-)
10:39 jeff berick: TUNE?
10:39 csharp "well, it rained again..."
10:39 Bmagic needs to be in a humidity vacuum bubble
10:40 jeff (I'm thinking Jason Mewes in Dogma... responding to "what gear are you in?" with "GEAR?")
10:40 csharp jeff++ # good reference
10:40 Bmagic complete with corridor chamber
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10:44 jeff In Boston, [as of 2016] there was a team servicing all 60 outdoor pianos "every two or three days".
10:46 berick whoa
10:48 jeff https://www.wbur.org/artery/2​016/10/07/street-pianos-tuner
10:52 berick and just like that I'm mad we don't have pianos on every street corner here
11:00 jeff we had at least one here, but i suspect it was not nearly as well maintained as those in boston.
11:00 jeff though that article does talk about the challenges in a way that implies it is very much "best effort only"
11:00 jeff (most of the pianos were donatea and already had problems, etc)
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11:58 rfrasur Just noting the piano discussion.  They had them on 16th street in Denver.  Maybe still do?
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12:45 gmcharlt mentioning the new pull request on bug 1843599 for quick consideration, as it fixes a regression
12:45 pinesol Launchpad bug 1843599 in Evergreen 3.3 "Unable to update Bib Source in MARC Edit screen" [Medium,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1843599
12:57 Dyrcona @blame The Internet
12:57 pinesol Dyrcona: The Internet typed Google into Google; broke the Internet.
12:57 Dyrcona :)
12:57 Dyrcona Sounds about right. :)
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13:11 Dyrcona Heh. Typo... :)
13:13 mmorgan c'mon Launchpad!
13:33 jeff mmorgan++ nice find on bug 1781274
13:33 pinesol Launchpad bug 1781274 in Evergreen "Web Client: Transactions Do Not Always Close When Bill Fully Paid" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1781274 - Assigned to Michele Morgan (mmorgan)
13:35 JBoyer mmorgan++
13:36 Dyrcona mmorgan++
13:36 Dyrcona floatingpoint--
13:36 Dyrcona Nobody believes me, but computers are actually bad at math.
13:37 Dyrcona Heh. Musta been made by humans.... Computers are bad at the one thing that they're supposed to be good at. :)
13:53 abowling The following works for an unrestricted global admin, but fails for a user with limited permissions, even after assigning the "ADMIN_COPY_BUCKET" perm to the user. Anyone have any ideas on what might be missing? egCore.pcrud.search('ccbi', { bucket: bucketSvc.currentBucket.a[2], "target_copy": { "in": cp_list } })
13:59 JBoyer abowling is it a shared bucket? and what level was that permission granted at?
14:03 berick hm, currentBucket.a[2] raises alarm bells.  wonder if that should be currentBucket.id() instead (doesn't explain the perm issue, though)
14:08 abowling JBoyer: it is not shared
14:10 jeff abowling: how does it fail?
14:10 abowling berick: currentBucket.a[2] seems to yield the same thing
14:10 jeff (ob: all buckets are shared buckets)
14:11 abowling jeff: it just doesn't return anything. osrfsys.log yields auth success and says it returns pcrud data, but no dice
14:12 jeff though i suppose there are still potential differences between "owned by user" and "owned by other user".
14:13 abowling jeff: if you're really interested in going in the weeds, the code in question is line 596 in ../default/staff/cat/bucket/copy/app.js here: https://git.evergreen-ils.org/?p=wor​king/Evergreen.git;a=commit;h=fc2118​55c5a4e95240fae49fd96d555c47b6cff8
14:15 jeff can you get the value of thqt variable for the bucket id for both users to compare?
14:15 berick abowling: k, if you're creating/modifying the code, then .id() would be the better option
14:15 abowling jeff: yep
14:15 jeff and also listen to berick. :-)
14:17 abowling berick: roger
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15:16 jeffdavis "listen to berick" is good advice for Evergreen development generally
15:22 csharp @dunno add always listen to berick
15:22 pinesol csharp: The operation succeeded.  Dunno #65 added.
15:25 mmorgan berick knows best :)
15:34 berick hah *group hug*
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15:59 Dyrcona @dunno
15:59 pinesol Dyrcona: Try running autogen
16:08 jeff The Updates tab of this software has a big red banner on (presumably) Fridays: "Applying System updates at the end of the week is not recommended."
16:09 jeff I don't think it's a "there's something special/weird about updating with regard to rotation/retention of data", I think it's just a general "don't break things before the weekend" / "don't upgrade this then ignore it for two days before you find out it stopped working", etc.
16:09 jeff "read-only friday", as it were.
16:10 * jeff idly wonders if their weekend support load went down when they deployed that banner
16:10 berick TGIROF
16:11 mmorgan The best time to apply system updates is just before going on vacation ;-)
16:14 jeff why do you hate your co-workers/customers so? ;-)
16:14 alynn26 lol
16:15 Dyrcona :)
16:15 * mmorgan has never actually advocated for that :)
16:15 Dyrcona Grr to merging branches that have some of the same commits applied and squashed.
16:16 Dyrcona We always do upgrades on long weekends, so I never get one.
16:18 Dyrcona I think I should just make a new branch and merge these two to clean out the redundant changes. It would help if the changes were identical but that's too much to ask. Sometimes thing are in a slightly different order or with different amounts of whitespace, dangling whitespace, and tabs versus spaces.
16:19 Dyrcona Yeahp. I'll just merge branch B into branch A so I'll have just the one branch.
16:19 Dyrcona Not my code by the way. I'm cleaning up someone else's branches.
16:43 mmorgan We've had a number of libraries decide to eliminate fines of late. Happy news!
16:49 jeff we did a fine forgiveness month in december, and the board just approved $0 overdue fines for youth and young adult materials last night.
16:50 mmorgan :)
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