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13:57 pinesol [evergreen|Jane Sandberg] LP1828840: Option to hide grid save settings button in angular grid - <http://git.evergreen-ils.org/?p=​Evergreen.git;a=commit;h=0ab8e87>
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16:09 jeff Dyrcona: around? you were talking about granularity and granularity-only the other day...
16:10 Dyrcona yeahp
16:11 jeff around here: http://irc.evergreen-ils.org/​evergreen/2019-06-27#i_410724
16:12 jeff I think in the following lines you described seeing different behavior when specifying a granularity with --granularity=foo with and without --granularity-only
16:12 Dyrcona Yes.
16:13 Dyrcona --granularity foo runs that granularity and null granularity event defs.
16:13 Dyrcona At lest for one stage.
16:13 Dyrcona It's in the logs at some point.
16:13 jeff But it looks like there's a line early in the action_trigger_runner.pl script that forces $opt_gran_only to 1 when $opt_granularity being trueish.
16:13 Dyrcona It's different for --process-hooks and --run-pending, IIRC.
16:13 jeff Oh! If you were basing your observations on the log output, I think those may lie about this.
16:14 jeff That might explain things.
16:14 Dyrcona I was basing it on a number of things, and asking me for details now is a mistake, but I'm pretty sure I saw it in the code, too.
16:15 jeff I'll continue to dig. Thanks. :-)
16:16 jeff The line in question overrides $opt_gran_only early enough that I don't think it gives the logs a chance to lie in the way I thought they might.
16:20 Dyrcona OK. I don't remember the details, 6/27 was two lifetimes ago.
16:23 jeff Yep. I started looking into something yesterday and remembered the conversation, went looking for it.
16:35 jvwoolf Has anybody ever noticed that if a hold is captured and then released back into the wild (due to a canceled transit or retarget while on the hold shelf) the expiration date doesn't come back?
16:36 jeff We don't use expiration on holds much, so I can't say I've noticed it, but it doesn't surprise me.
16:38 jvwoolf jeff: It took us this long to notice. :)
16:39 jeff action.hold_request.expire_time is cleared when a hold is suspended/frozen or when an item is captured for that hold.
16:39 jeff (possibly other times, but those are the two that stand out most)
16:40 jvwoolf Probably when canceled, too, from what I've seen.
16:40 jvwoolf I didn't find a bug report, so I guess I'll file one.
16:41 jeff I can see how it might be desirable to preserve and re-assign the previous expire_time when a hold no longer has a copy captured, but since we don't use it much to begin with (yet -- we might start), I'm not sure I'm not imagining use cases. :-)
16:42 jeff If a hold's expire_time has passed when the hold is reset / transit cancelled, should the hold expire_time be set to that original time, which is now in the past?
16:43 Dyrcona jeff: It's all relative.
16:45 jeff Interesting quirks with expire_time and uncancel_hold...
16:50 jvwoolf jeff: If the expire time has passed, the hold will be canceled anyway.
16:52 jeff Well, it won't because the expire_time was cleared when the hold was captured... I guess I should have asked "if we preserve the original expire_time and try to restore it when the hold no longer has a copy captured, what should happen?"
16:54 jeff probably "in that case, the hold should get whatever default expire time a newly placed hold would get"?
16:55 Dyrcona Unless, of course, you're traveling at 0.99C...
16:55 jeff a granularity of "0" is not recommended.
17:00 jvwoolf jeff: That would be a pretty rare case. So yeah, I'd agree that it should get whatever a new hold would get.
17:01 pinesol News from qatests: Testing Success <http://testing.evergreen-ils.org/~live>
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