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09:30 kmlussier I'm putting out another message on the list for acq funding. If you can think of any sites that would be worth hitting up directly, let me know. Right now, I have confirmed/almost confirmed commitments from GPLS, Evergreen Indiana, and CW MARS.
09:32 JBoyer kmlussier, I assume SITKA has some interest in acq.
09:32 JBoyer They certainly have good docs.
09:32 kmlussier Gah! That wasn't supposed to go in the general channel.
09:32 * kmlussier had already made it through her entire Evergreen career without accidentally posting private things publicly. :)
09:34 * rhamby thinks this is the irc's ghost's revenge on kmlussier for abandoning it
09:34 kmlussier Yes, I should also say MassLNC is committing, which includes Sitka and other dev partners.
09:34 JBoyer Oops. At least it wasn't an airing of grievances as you near the end of your time at MassLNC. ;)
09:35 kmlussier Honestly, everything's ganging up against me this week. My local git repo was totally corrupted yesterday, and I can't get a VM to run Evergreen properly. I should just stop now before more things rebel.
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10:02 mmorgan @coffee kmlussier
10:03 * pinesol brews and pours a cup of Rwanda Karaba Fair Trade, and sends it sliding down the bar to kmlussier
10:12 kmlussier abneiman++
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10:59 pinesol [evergreen|Bill Erickson] LP#1797007 Grid cell tooltips apply to all cells - <http://git.evergreen-ils.org/?p=​Evergreen.git;a=commit;h=af92af5>
10:59 pinesol [evergreen|Bill Erickson] LP#1797007 Grid cell tooltips apply to all cells (Ang) - <http://git.evergreen-ils.org/?p=​Evergreen.git;a=commit;h=8fabb9e>
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11:33 Dyrcona berick: Thanks again for asking my a/t questions yesterday afternoon.
11:33 Dyrcona I found a simpler way to fix our custom lost print notice a/t that only required some minor changes to the template.
11:34 Dyrcona I didn't have to use a custom reactor to sort the data ahead of time, but I may give it a test run anyway just to see if I did it right.
11:35 Dyrcona heh.. s/asking/answering/  # I need some lunch! :)
11:41 berick :)
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13:13 kmlussier @quote random
13:13 pinesol kmlussier: Quote #157: "< jeff> when i see this branch needs a rebase i hear it in a jack nicholson voice, every time." (added by csharp at 10:12 AM, August 18, 2016)
13:13 kmlussier :)
13:14 Dyrcona :)
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13:18 bshum That's... creepy
13:25 * jeff laughs
13:25 jeff (but not in a creepy way)
13:30 dbwells FYI: Due to the US Thanksgiving holiday, tentative plans are for point releases to be moved up by one day next week to Tuesday, Nov. 20.
13:32 berick thanks dbwells
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13:44 kmlussier dbwells++
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13:59 terran FYI, EOB meeting shortly
13:59 miker in just a  few seconds, even
14:01 miker #startmeeting 2018-11-15 - EOB meeting -- https://wiki.evergreen-ils.org/doku.​php?id=governance:minutes:2018-11-15
14:01 pinesol Meeting started Thu Nov 15 14:01:24 2018 US/Eastern.  The chair is miker. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.
14:01 pinesol Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote.
14:01 Topic for #evergreen is now  (Meeting topic: 2018-11-15 - EOB meeting -- https://wiki.evergreen-ils.org/doku.p​hp?id=governance:minutes:2018-11-15)
14:01 pinesol The meeting name has been set to '2018_11_15___eob_meeting____https​___wiki_evergreen_ils_org_doku_php​_id_governance_minutes_2018_11_15'
14:01 miker #topic Introductions -- announce yourself, please
14:01 Topic for #evergreen is now Introductions -- announce yourself, please (Meeting topic: 2018-11-15 - EOB meeting -- https://wiki.evergreen-ils.org/doku.p​hp?id=governance:minutes:2018-11-15)
14:01 hbrennan #info  hbrennan is Holly Brennan, Homer Public Library, Alaska
14:01 miker #info miker = Mike Rylander, EOLI
14:01 terran #info terran is Terran McCanna, Georgia PINES
14:01 agoben #info agoben = Anna Goben, Evergreen Indiana
14:01 collum #info collum = Garry Collum, KCPL
14:02 rgagnon #info rgagnon is Ron Gagnon, NOBLE
14:02 Sthomas #info Sthomas = Scott Thomas, PaILS
14:02 JBoyer #info JBoyer = Jason Boyer, IN State Library, Evergreen IN
14:03 miker well, there's a quorum, so...
14:03 terran FYI Jessica Woolford indicated by email that she would be late
14:03 miker ah, indeed. thanks
14:03 miker #topic Approval or Correction of Minutes: http://evergreen-ils.org/meetings/evergr​een/2018/evergreen.2018-10-18-14.02.html
14:03 Topic for #evergreen is now Approval or Correction of Minutes: http://evergreen-ils.org/meetings/evergr​een/2018/evergreen.2018-10-18-14.02.html (Meeting topic: 2018-11-15 - EOB meeting -- https://wiki.evergreen-ils.org/doku.p​hp?id=governance:minutes:2018-11-15)
14:03 miker any questions or corrections for the minutes? discussion?
14:03 miker perfect!
14:04 miker #startvote Approve 2018-10-18 meeting minutes? yes, no
14:04 pinesol Begin voting on: Approve 2018-10-18 meeting minutes? Valid vote options are yes, no.
14:04 pinesol Vote using '#vote OPTION'. Only your last vote counts.
14:04 hbrennan I apologize for missing that one. But I was on an airplane. :)
14:04 miker #vote yes
14:04 rgagnon #vote yes
14:04 Sthomas #vote yes
14:04 hbrennan #vote yes
14:04 collum #vote yes
14:04 terran #vote yes
14:04 JBoyer #vote Yes
14:04 agoben #vote yes
14:04 miker hbrennan: that's an /OK/ excuse, I suppose ;)
14:04 miker #endvote
14:04 pinesol Voted on "Approve 2018-10-18 meeting minutes?" Results are
14:04 pinesol yes (8): rgagnon, JBoyer, agoben, miker, collum, Sthomas, terran, hbrennan
14:04 miker On to officers
14:04 miker #topic Chair report
14:04 Topic for #evergreen is now Chair report (Meeting topic: 2018-11-15 - EOB meeting -- https://wiki.evergreen-ils.org/doku.p​hp?id=governance:minutes:2018-11-15)
14:05 miker As usual, nothing here that won't be discussed later.
14:05 miker #topic Financial report
14:05 Topic for #evergreen is now Financial report (Meeting topic: 2018-11-15 - EOB meeting -- https://wiki.evergreen-ils.org/doku.p​hp?id=governance:minutes:2018-11-15)
14:05 miker #info No changes as of 1:55pm EST today; still waiting on final ledger reconciliation.
14:05 miker and related...
14:05 miker #topic SFC Update
14:05 Topic for #evergreen is now SFC Update (Meeting topic: 2018-11-15 - EOB meeting -- https://wiki.evergreen-ils.org/doku.p​hp?id=governance:minutes:2018-11-15)
14:06 miker #info Wearing our "The Evergreen Project" corporation hats, we have started the process of taking over from SFC.  We await their draft proposal, but, strictly speaking, that is now outside the EOB proper, and EOB's role is shrinking.
14:06 miker That said, "The Evergreen Project" now has a lawyer who will be working with "TEP" to finalize the SFC agreement, the IRS Form 1023, and additional initial setup of the entity.
14:07 JBoyer Excellent news.
14:07 miker we don't have an ETA on the SFC proposal, but Karen at SFC was responsive, and did not express any concerns about our needs, especially WRT timing and ordering of payments, etc.
14:08 miker so ... now, we wait
14:08 miker Does anyone have EOB-oriented question, comments, concerns or news to share, re SFC?
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14:09 terran Very glad it's moving forward. Thank you to everyone who has worked so hard on this process.
14:09 JBoyer indeed
14:09 agoben Seconded
14:09 JBoyer jvwoolf++
14:09 JBoyer Sthomas++
14:09 rgagnon Yes, thank you
14:09 JBoyer miker++
14:09 miker welcome, jvwoolf! I'd just asked: Does anyone have EOB-oriented question, comments, concerns or news to share, re SFC?
14:10 miker after providing a basic update on the status
14:10 jvwoolf miker: Thanks! Nothing from me at the moment.
14:10 miker cool, thanks!
14:10 miker well, let's turn to slightly more regular business!
14:11 miker I'm going to split the Release Manager part into 2...
14:11 miker #topic Release maintainer (Bill Erickson)
14:11 Topic for #evergreen is now Release maintainer (Bill Erickson) (Meeting topic: 2018-11-15 - EOB meeting -- https://wiki.evergreen-ils.org/doku.p​hp?id=governance:minutes:2018-11-15)
14:11 miker berick: updates/requests/etc for the maintenance of 3.2?
14:12 miker I'll take that as "it's moving along swimmingly", and head on to...
14:12 miker #topic Release Manager (Dan Wells)
14:12 Topic for #evergreen is now Release Manager (Dan Wells) (Meeting topic: 2018-11-15 - EOB meeting -- https://wiki.evergreen-ils.org/doku.p​hp?id=governance:minutes:2018-11-15)
14:12 miker dbwells, having received no challenge to his reign, will be our esteemed release manager for 3.3
14:13 miker 3(.3) cheers for dbwells!
14:13 hbrennan ha
14:13 miker dbwells: it's early in the cycle, but do you have anything to discuss?
14:13 terran dbwells++
14:13 Sthomas dbwells++
14:13 collum dbwells++
14:13 JBoyer dbwells++
14:13 jvwoolf dbwells++
14:13 agoben dbwells++
14:13 rgagnon dbwells++
14:13 dbwells miker: No report at this time, thanks for asking, and for the complete and partial cheers :)
14:13 miker dbwells++ #indeed
14:14 miker thanks! that brings us to:
14:14 miker #topic 2019 Conference committee (Scott Thomas)
14:14 Topic for #evergreen is now 2019 Conference committee (Scott Thomas) (Meeting topic: 2018-11-15 - EOB meeting -- https://wiki.evergreen-ils.org/doku.p​hp?id=governance:minutes:2018-11-15)
14:14 miker Sthomas: please take it away!
14:14 Sthomas Going to send Save the Date emails to exhibitors / sponsors while we wait for prospectus to be approved by SFC or reach a point where we don't need SFC approval. We received three program proposals I believe for the pre-conference. 11/16 is deadline for pre-conference. 12/7 is deadline for general proposals.
14:15 Sthomas I would be happy to entertain questions.
14:15 miker Sthomas: at this point, do you expect we'll need to extend either? (probably too early to even guess about the regular proposals ... I imagine they flood in at the last minute)
14:16 Sthomas We have a conference committee call at 3PM Eastern. Extending the pre-conference deadline (and sending out a begging email) will be discussed.
14:17 terran trying to remember who I was talking about preconference ideas with at the hackaway...
14:17 miker fair enough. how many were you hoping for?
14:17 miker or, how many slots are we trying to fill?
14:17 terran 4 slots to fill
14:17 Sthomas Yes 4.
14:17 miker kk, thanks
14:18 collum We still have until 3:00 for you viewers out there.
14:18 * miker glares at the 69 voiced members of this channel...
14:18 terran :D
14:19 miker any other questions for Sthomas, re the conference?
14:19 terran FYI, so far we have one on print templates, one on collection development, and one on deduplicating bib records
14:19 JBoyer Yes, these don't *have* to be conde-on-slides extravaganzas.
14:20 JBoyer Conde? Code-on-slides...
14:20 terran I thought you were saying something in French that I didn't understand.
14:20 jvwoolf JBoyer: I was wondering what kind of fancy thing I was not hip to...
14:20 miker terran: same :)
14:20 hbrennan terran: ha!
14:21 terran The print template submittal is meant to be hands-on
14:21 miker JBoyer, coiner of fancy typos
14:21 terran LOL
14:21 jvwoolf Hahaha
14:21 JBoyer Auw, haw haw.
14:21 JBoyer Ui.
14:22 JBoyer Hard to onomatopoeia en France.
14:22 miker at least when reading as english in one's head
14:23 miker alright, let's move on
14:23 miker #topic Outreach committee (Kathy Lussier)
14:23 Topic for #evergreen is now Outreach committee (Kathy Lussier) (Meeting topic: 2018-11-15 - EOB meeting -- https://wiki.evergreen-ils.org/doku.p​hp?id=governance:minutes:2018-11-15)
14:23 terran A hands-on code-y thing would be cool if someone was willing to lead it. Maybe cover a few simple types of things, like how to add columns to the grid/column picker?
14:23 terran (Sorry, typed too slow)
14:23 miker kmlussier: do you have things to deliver unto us before The End(tm)?
14:24 JBoyer :,-(
14:24 miker or, should we officially start directing that call to someone else now?
14:24 kmlussier Hi!
14:24 miker and, for good measure...
14:24 miker kmlussier++ # all the things
14:24 terran kmlussier++ (sob)
14:24 rgagnon kmlussier++
14:24 agoben kmlussier++
14:24 Sthomas kmlussier++
14:24 JBoyer kmlussier++
14:24 collum kmlussier++
14:24 kmlussier Awww, shucks. Thanks!
14:24 jvwoolf kmlussier++
14:25 kmlussier The Outreach Committee met yesterday.
14:25 kmlussier We will be announcing our first Evergreen Contributor of the Month this week. Stay tuned for that announcement. I am thrilled with the choice.
14:25 kmlussier The committee also unanimously elected rhamby as the new Outreach Committee chair.
14:25 kmlussier rhamby++
14:25 terran rhamby++
14:25 agoben rhamby++
14:26 JBoyer rhamby++
14:26 rgagnon rhamby++
14:26 Sthomas rhamby++
14:26 hbrennan rhamby++
14:26 collum rhamby++
14:26 jvwoolf rhamby++
14:26 kmlussier That's all I have to report.
14:26 miker rhamby++
14:27 kmlussier Also, feel free to nominate somebody for our next contributor of the month. https://docs.google.com/forms/d/e/1FAIpQLSd9NQNneP​-zk_wMn9iGs1KWkFjEKbicgf9s3mq3BvRm5pmgJw/viewform
14:27 miker thanks! that's going to be very cool, I think
14:28 miker now moving on to Old Business
14:28 miker #topic Update on nonprofit status
14:28 Topic for #evergreen is now Update on nonprofit status (Meeting topic: 2018-11-15 - EOB meeting -- https://wiki.evergreen-ils.org/doku.p​hp?id=governance:minutes:2018-11-15)
14:28 miker well, we discussed it above, mostly.  I have one question for Sthomas, though
14:29 Sthomas Sure.
14:29 miker Do we have any word on a consent action document from the MOBIUS for adopting the COI policy, or a template we could use for the same? I have half a memory of one, but can't find it.  Or we can just ask our new lawyer for same.
14:30 Sthomas I have it somewhere. I can dig it out.
14:30 miker perfect, thank you!
14:30 jvwoolf Probably a good thing to send to the lawyer for their files as well, yes?
14:30 Sthomas I'll get it out to you today or early tomorrow.
14:30 miker yes, and for them to review
14:31 miker (my hope is they'll say, "yep, that's fine" and we can proceed without the new lawyer spending any extra time on it)
14:32 miker JBoyer: thanks for the notes on the 1023, as well.  I think we're close to handing it to the lawyer for review, and SFC has a recent draft now. Sthomas, once you have some time to look at those changes, let's get the updated draft to both?
14:33 * miker should have split that long line...sorry
14:33 Sthomas Sure. I worked on that a bit today.
14:33 Sthomas JBoyer++
14:33 miker awesome
14:33 jvwoolf miker: Copy was sent to lawyer as it stands. He left me a voicemail I have not returned yet. He already has some comments.
14:33 miker any pressing needs, Sthomas, other than further review by "TEP" folks (aka, us)
14:34 miker jvwoolf: oh, great!
14:34 Sthomas We never clarification on who exactly our Registered Agent is. As of now it appears to be MOBIUS.
14:34 terran jvwoolf++ sthomas++ jboyer++
14:34 Sthomas We need I meant
14:34 miker Sthomas: yes, it is Donna, specifically
14:35 Sthomas Okay. I appreciate getting the verified.
14:35 miker we should just ask the lawyer for his opinion, and directions on changing with SOS in MO (assuming he agrees we should move it to him)
14:36 miker jvwoolf: would you mind asking about that (if it's clear to you) in your next communication with him?
14:36 jvwoolf miker: Sorry, what is SOS?
14:36 miker Secretary of State
14:36 jvwoolf (Other than save our souls :) )
14:36 jvwoolf Ah, got it.
14:38 jvwoolf Just to clarify, I'm asking for clarification on who the registered agent should be?
14:39 miker jvwoolf: well, whether they concur that it would be Good(tm) to change the Agent to our principle attorney, and if so, what do we need to do?
14:40 jvwoolf OK, got it
14:40 miker thanks, muchly
14:40 miker and, having already discussed it, we can skip the next topic (Evergreen Lawyer) except to say...
14:40 miker jvwoolf++ # lawyer wrangling
14:40 hbrennan jvwoolf++
14:40 JBoyer jvwoolf++
14:40 rgagnon jvwoolf++
14:40 Sthomas jvwoolf++
14:40 agoben jvwoolf++
14:40 collum jvwoolf++
14:40 collum Sthomas++
14:40 terran jvwoolf++
14:41 jvwoolf Sthomas++
14:41 miker Sthomas++ # form wrangling, et al
14:41 rgagnon Sthomas++
14:41 agoben Sthomas++
14:41 hbrennan Sthomas++
14:41 terran sthomas++
14:41 miker and, finally,
14:41 miker #topic New Business
14:41 Topic for #evergreen is now New Business (Meeting topic: 2018-11-15 - EOB meeting -- https://wiki.evergreen-ils.org/doku.p​hp?id=governance:minutes:2018-11-15)
14:42 miker Does anyone have any? Or shall we make this a blessedly short one!
14:42 jvwoolf Do we have an update on the bank account, or did I miss that?
14:42 Sthomas We need to figure out what address the bank account should be associated with which ties in with the registered agent question.
14:43 miker jvwoolf: Sthomas has identified what's needed, AIUI, but the Agent question should be answered first. mainly to reduce paperwork :) ...
14:43 miker and, what Sthomas said
14:43 jvwoolf Got it
14:44 jvwoolf I'll speak with the lawyer today if there is time, or possibly tomorrow.
14:44 miker jvwoolf: thanks.  time pressure doesn't /really/ start until we start reviewing a draft proposal from SFC ;)
14:44 miker but, having the ducks lined up earlier will be good
14:45 jvwoolf miker: That's what I was thinking.
14:45 Sthomas And conference business is still held up by all of this.
14:46 miker Sthomas: indeed. if we don't hear from SFC by next week, I'll ping Karen about the proposal /or/ moving forward with their approval of the prospectus
14:46 Sthomas Thank you.
14:48 miker here's to hoping we'll all each be wearing only one "board" hat soon...
14:48 miker and, one final call for new business
14:49 miker hearing none, I thank you all, again, for your time and wish you all a Happy Thanksgiving!
14:49 terran Happy Thanksgiving to all!
14:49 miker Have a good afternoon, everyone!
14:49 terran miker++
14:49 rgagnon Happy Thanksgiving!
14:49 agoben Thanks!!!
14:49 JBoyer miker++
14:49 miker #endmeeting
14:49 Topic for #evergreen is now Welcome to the #evergreen library system channel! | We are publicly logged: http://irc.evergreen-ils.org/evergreen | Large pastes at http://paste.evergreen-ils.org | Can't speak? Make sure your nickname is registered and that you are identified to freenode services: https://freenode.net/kb/answer/registration
14:49 pinesol Meeting ended Thu Nov 15 14:49:24 2018 US/Eastern.  Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4)
14:49 pinesol Minutes:        http://evergreen-ils.org/meetings/evergr​een/2018/evergreen.2018-11-15-14.01.html
14:49 pinesol Minutes (text): http://evergreen-ils.org/meetings/evergr​een/2018/evergreen.2018-11-15-14.01.txt
14:49 pinesol Log:            http://evergreen-ils.org/meetings/evergree​n/2018/evergreen.2018-11-15-14.01.log.html
14:49 agoben miker++
14:49 jvwoolf miker++
14:49 hbrennan miker++
14:49 rgagnon miker++
14:49 JBoyer @oprah Thanks!
14:49 pinesol JBoyer: Go away, or I'll replace you with a very small shell script!
14:49 Sthomas miker++
14:49 collum miker++
14:49 JBoyer Hmph.
14:49 terran Ha!
14:50 JBoyer Sthomas, given the above, do we have anything to discuss at 3 or would a checkin still be good?
14:51 JBoyer (was thinking about the prospectus being held up and kind of stalling us for the moment.)
14:52 Bmagic miker++
15:02 kmlussier miker++
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16:23 pinesol [evergreen|Ben Shum] LP#1757455: followup to fix installing i18n - <http://git.evergreen-ils.org/?p=​Evergreen.git;a=commit;h=9023f96>
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21:01 bshum Calling 1135
21:08 pinesol [evergreen|Rogan Hamby] LP#1091885: make sure bibs get reingested on undelete - <http://git.evergreen-ils.org/?p=​Evergreen.git;a=commit;h=020e2e7>
21:08 pinesol [evergreen|Ben Shum] LP#1091885: Stamping upgrade script - <http://git.evergreen-ils.org/?p=​Evergreen.git;a=commit;h=2f1cee0>
22:04 pinesol [evergreen|Dan Scott] LP1490616: Adjust "Penalties & Messages" label (webby) - <http://git.evergreen-ils.org/?p=​Evergreen.git;a=commit;h=0024789>
22:28 pinesol [evergreen|Jeanette Lundgren] Docs: LP#1578719 Update DIG Attributions page - <http://git.evergreen-ils.org/?p=​Evergreen.git;a=commit;h=e8cb39d>
23:12 bshum Yay, successful math test with Fedora 29 and OpenSRF master (using knowledge gleaned from legacy auth stuff we sorted out for Ubuntu Bionic)
23:13 * bshum is just amusing himself
23:14 bshum Apparently the ejabberd.yml file for Ejabberd 18.09 (that comes with Fedora29) completely removes the clauses for the legacy auth options.  But if you add them back in, things "just work", ha

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