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pinesol_green |
News from qatests: Testing Success <http://testing.evergreen-ils.org/~live> |
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Bmagic |
@coffee [someone] |
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* pinesol_green |
brews and pours a cup of Hawaii Isla Kona Mauka, and sends it sliding down the bar to stephengwills |
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Bmagic |
@coffee [someone] |
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* pinesol_green |
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Bmagic |
@coffee [someone] |
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* pinesol_green |
brews and pours a cup of Panama Elida Estate Natural, and sends it sliding down the bar to bshum |
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Bmagic |
Sounds tasty! |
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Bmagic |
It would be handy if pinesol_green would provide the URL to the coffee |
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Dyrcona |
Are there URLs for the coffee? |
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kmlussier |
@coffee Bmagic |
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* pinesol_green |
brews and pours a cup of Kenya AA Gachatha, and sends it sliding down the bar to Bmagic |
| 09:52 |
Dyrcona |
So, that SIP thing I mentioned on Friday: http://irc.evergreen-ils.org/evergreen/2018-07-06#i_366727 |
| 09:53 |
Dyrcona |
I think it is actually a permission thing. I seem to recall running into this last year or the year before, figuring it out, planning to fix it in our database, and then not doing it. :) |
| 09:54 |
Dyrcona |
Cant' find any notes on it, though, so I have to start over. |
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JBoyer |
Dyrcona, do you have your SIP users using a suggested permission set from somewhere? (I know there's a list of perms suggested in the NCIP docs, I can't remember at the moment if there's a similar list somewhere for SIP) |
| 10:04 |
JBoyer |
Hopefully something just needs a depth adjustment since there doesn't appear to be a VIEW_BILLS permission anywhere. |
| 10:07 |
Dyrcona |
JBoyer: I recall it being some sort of VIEW permission that was just not granted, but as always, I'm working on more than 1 thing at a time. I will likely look into it later today. |
| 10:07 |
JBoyer |
True. Just hoping to perhaps jostle a memory. :) Good luck! |
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| 10:12 |
Dyrcona |
I believe it is VIEW_USER_TRANSACTIONS that was missing... |
| 10:14 |
jeff |
there is a wiki page with recommended SIP user permissions: https://wiki.evergreen-ils.org/doku.php?id=evergreen-admin:sip |
| 10:17 |
Bmagic |
Anyone delt with deleting pending patrons from Webby? |
| 10:17 |
Bmagic |
dealt |
| 10:18 |
terran |
Bmagic: I believe there's a bug report on that... |
| 10:18 |
Bmagic |
ah, couldn't find it |
| 10:18 |
terran |
https://bugs.launchpad.net/evergreen/+bug/1737800 |
| 10:18 |
pinesol_green |
Launchpad bug 1737800 in Evergreen "Web Client: Pending Patrons No Delete" [Medium,Confirmed] |
| 10:18 |
Bmagic |
thank you! |
| 10:19 |
Bmagic |
terran++ |
| 10:19 |
Dyrcona |
Nope. Both SIP groups have VIEW_USER_TRANSACTIONS. |
| 10:19 |
terran |
Bmagic: In combination with this bug, it's really problematic: https://bugs.launchpad.net/evergreen/+bug/1749970 |
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pinesol_green |
Launchpad bug 1749970 in Evergreen "Web Staff Client: Pending Patrons limited to 100" [Undecided,Confirmed] |
| 10:21 |
JBoyer |
jeff++ # behold, documentation! |
| 10:25 |
Dyrcona |
Ah ha! |
| 10:25 |
Dyrcona |
It's the group this user is in. There's a 3rd SIP2 group called View only. |
| 10:26 |
Dyrcona |
Now, why would an account named "*ecommerce" be view only? |
| 10:28 |
JBoyer |
Dyrcona++ # detecting |
| 10:28 |
Dyrcona |
Well, it all comes back, now... :) |
| 10:29 |
JBoyer |
Not a lot of good hypothetical answers to that hypothetical question though. ;) |
| 10:29 |
Dyrcona |
Yeah. I'm going to change it on my test database. Put the test library's users in the most permissive group. |
| 10:29 |
Dyrcona |
They have 3 sip accounts. |
| 10:30 |
Dyrcona |
I think the view only group needs the permissions changed. |
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| 10:35 |
Dyrcona |
I wouldn't be surprised if ecommerce is meant to be in the most permissive group, SIP-Pay, and it's in the other by accident. |
| 10:35 |
Dyrcona |
The profile ids are 321 and 322 so easy to make a mistake. |
| 10:53 |
Dyrcona |
Be funny if the whole reason the library requested this enhancement is a permissions issue. :) |
| 10:53 |
Dyrcona |
The vendor said "Evergreen can't provide fine item detail." |
| 10:54 |
Dyrcona |
Sure it can, if the proper profile is used. :) |
| 11:03 |
jeff |
which vendor? |
| 11:04 |
Dyrcona |
Envisionware believe it or not. |
| 11:05 |
Dyrcona |
I would think that they would know better. |
| 11:05 |
Dyrcona |
But, I really should not have quoted them since I got that information second hand. :) |
| 11:05 |
Dyrcona |
What we do provide isn't "standard" though. |
| 11:08 |
Dyrcona |
Too bad it only took a year... :P |
| 11:11 |
Dyrcona |
Too many people named Chris in my address book...... |
| 11:12 |
jeff |
Yeah, I blame another vendor for that. I tried to build support for delimited details per their spec, and they said "oh, we don't support that -- nobody supports that. we much prefer that you just pass mostly-freeform strings like this" -- and then a few years later were complaining to me about how they wish we provided delimited data like in their spec PDF. :-) |
| 11:12 |
jeff |
somewhere there was a breakdown in communication. :-) |
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| 11:14 |
Dyrcona |
Yeahp. |
| 11:15 |
Dyrcona |
I've basically got 3 formats: 3M, as suggested in the SIP2 documentation, Swyer A and Swyer B, 2 alternates from a document put out by some group named Swyer. |
| 11:16 |
Dyrcona |
The idea is to support all 3, plus what Evergreen does now, via config options. |
| 11:16 |
Dyrcona |
But, if what Evergreen does now is a mistake, we can probably remove it. |
| 11:24 |
jeff |
no, i wouldn't suggest that. |
| 11:25 |
jeff |
as it would break existing setups for little reason. |
| 11:25 |
Dyrcona |
Right, OK. I wasn't leaning very strongly toward removing it. |
| 11:25 |
jeff |
recommending a different setup for new installs or installs looking to change would be good, probably. |
| 11:27 |
Dyrcona |
The code we've got, which I have not, yet, successfully tested, keeps the current behavior as the default. |
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Dyrcona |
What a difference the proper permissions make. :) |
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Dyrcona |
So, got through all of the remove_ou_data scripts and they don't remove all of the circulations. |
| 12:51 |
Dyrcona |
I have 1,282 still hanging around. |
| 12:59 |
jeff |
with the move to action.usr_circ_history in bug 1527342, was there ever anything that migrated previously existing circ history? for whatever reason, i'm not seeing anything in upgrade script or related commits or release notes or in the bug. |
| 12:59 |
pinesol_green |
Launchpad bug 1527342 in Evergreen "Maintain patron reading history in a dedicated table." [Wishlist,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1527342 |
| 12:59 |
jeff |
yet i think i see some history maintained prior to the relevant upgrade date, so i'm guessing there was something which I overlooked. |
| 13:00 |
jeff |
<quack> |
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| 13:00 |
jeff |
and one comment in the bug mentions migrating data to the new table. i must've just overlooked that part of the upgrade script. |
| 13:01 |
Dyrcona |
jeff: The upgrade script did migrate history. |
| 13:02 |
jeff |
Yep, DO block right there staring me in the face now. :-) |
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mmorgan |
Has anyone seen this error when checking in a Lost item? |
| 15:14 |
pastebot |
"mmorgan" at 64.57.241.14 pasted "Checkin error" (6 lines) at http://paste.evergreen-ils.org/13604 |
| 15:14 |
mmorgan |
I suspected bug 1511765, but this looks like something different. |
| 15:14 |
pinesol_green |
Launchpad bug 1511765 in Evergreen "Checking in migrated lost status copies and Lost/Long Overdue/Lost and Paid copies with no associated circ generates error when zero-balance lost OU setting is enabled" [Medium,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1511765 |
| 15:18 |
bshum |
Google says that's happened before, but was fixed a long time ago: https://bugs.launchpad.net/evergreen/+bug/1691563 (maybe someething came back to haunt us, or there's another flaw similar to it in the logic) |
| 15:18 |
pinesol_green |
Launchpad bug 1691563 in Evergreen 3.0 ""Use of freed value in iteration" error during adjust to zero" [Undecided,Fix released] |
| 15:20 |
mmorgan |
bshum++ |
| 15:21 |
bshum |
Yeah different function, similar error |
| 15:21 |
bshum |
Have to dig deeper at it |
| 15:21 |
mmorgan |
We're 2.12.4 for another day or so, so maybe I just need to wait and see what happens after upgrading. |
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bshum |
Oooo |
| 15:22 |
bshum |
I see |
| 15:22 |
bshum |
So yeah that bug fix was 2.12.5 according to the note, and 3.0 |
| 15:22 |
bshum |
upgrading is good. I love upgrading things. |
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mmorgan |
Speaking of upgrades, I'm wondering why the signed off fix for bug 1776557 / bug 1669856 would not have gotten included in the 3.0.9 or 3.1.3 releases. Is it because they lack a target? |
| 15:44 |
pinesol_green |
Launchpad bug 1776557 in Evergreen "Grid: Right click fails to select new row if different row is selected" [Medium,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1776557 |
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pinesol_green |
Launchpad bug 1669856 in Evergreen "Web Client: Right click problems on links in web client grids" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1669856 |
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kmlussier |
mmorgan: Targets help, but I suspect it's also related to lack of tuits on the part of core committers. |
| 15:47 |
mmorgan |
Darn tuits ;-) |
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Dyrcona |
Add targets and we'll see about getting them in for the next updates. |
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mmorgan |
Dyrcona: will do, thanks! |
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kmlussier |
Who should be the assignee on bug 1773417? We have two right now. |
| 16:12 |
pinesol_green |
Launchpad bug 1773417 in Evergreen 3.1 "Webstaff Cataloging Cleanup Omnibus, May 2018" [High,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1773417 - Assigned to Dan Wells (dbw2) |
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NFPl |
Does anyone know what file deals with the postback of the account preference forms in the OPAC? I would like to unify the 3 preference tabs under one page as an option in my OPAC. |
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pinesol_green |
News from qatests: Testing Success <http://testing.evergreen-ils.org/~live> |
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