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06:02 pinesol_green News from qatests: Test Success <http://testing.evergreen-ils.org/~live>
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07:24 Nidheesh hi
07:24 Nidheesh i need a help in SIP2 configuration
07:26 Nidheesh i configured SIP2 in evergreen ils 2.11.8 version with RAW port for bibliotheca kiosk integration. configuration is done successfully but got two issues in the connectivity
07:26 Nidheesh one: kiosk goes offline when a patron enters wrong credentials and it takes exactly 60 seconds to come back
07:28 Nidheesh two: i have integrated security gate also with ILS via SIP2, kiosk goes offline if gate connectivity is on. both are not working simultaniously. (created another SIP user account for gate with telnet port but result is negative
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07:55 Nidheesh hi
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09:54 gmcharlt berick: you might find 1729610 of interest
09:55 gmcharlt er, bug 1729610
09:55 pinesol_green Launchpad bug 1729610 in OpenSRF "allow requests to be queued if max_children limit is hit" [Wishlist,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1729610
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10:18 berick gmcharlt: *nod* good idea
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12:07 dbs Ah, vandelay upload error "nginx: 2017/11/02 09:04:53 [error] 3693#3693: *76600 client intended to send too large body: 2121251 bytes", to be solved by bumping client_max_body_size in nginx conf
12:08 berick dbs++
12:13 rhamby ericar: can you poke Cherokee on those bibs IDs.  I really don't want to create 60K pre-cats.
12:13 rhamby ignore me, irc is freezing up on me
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12:37 berick @quote random
12:37 pinesol_green berick: Quote #142: "csharp: do you want to be a sys admin or a fireman?" (added by mrpeters at 08:41 PM, March 03, 2016)
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12:40 berick I'll go with fire admin
12:53 bshum Bmagic: Hmm... that sample oils_sip.xml.example from Evergreen repo is a bad one if I recall right.  That's part of this old LP bug - https://bugs.launchpad.net/evergreen/+bug/1399790
12:53 pinesol_green Launchpad bug 1399790 in Evergreen "deprecate oils_sip.xml.example" [Wishlist,Triaged]
12:53 bshum Though at this point, who knows
12:53 Bmagic oh?
12:53 Bmagic We are using some sort of a hybrid
12:53 Bmagic seems* to be working
12:54 bshum Yeah, probably that's the right answer, almost 3 years after I filed that bug :)
12:54 bshum As I'm sure there's been changes in both places since
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13:02 csharp ours is still *named* oils_sip.xml, but incorporates sipconfig.xml
13:03 bshum csharp: Well looking for my bug, I found your bug idea to move it all to DB side
13:03 bshum So yeah, lots of room to improve :)
13:03 csharp yeah we shouldn't have to edit hundreds of lines of XML to add/remove/change accounts (IMHO)
13:04 csharp you can script it of course, but better if it can all just be in the db
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13:13 * Bmagic waves at hbrennan
13:13 hbrennan Bmagic: Hi! I know, it's really me!
13:14 Bmagic hbrennan: going to make the trip from Alaska next week?
13:14 hbrennan Bmagic: No sir. :(
13:14 Bmagic There is always "next time"
13:15 hbrennan Bmagic: Always a next time. And a year goes by awfully fast
13:16 Bmagic That is what I have come to realize as well!
13:16 hbrennan Bmagic: Got my own little hackfest going at home since we upgraded to 3.0 :)
13:16 Bmagic yeah! You might* be the first
13:16 Bmagic We are not far behind
13:16 Bmagic December 11th is our go-live with 3.0.[12]
13:18 hbrennan Bmagic: Nice!
13:18 bshum "Meet me in St. Louis"
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14:01 ohiojoe #startmeeting 2017-11-02 Documentation Interest Group Meeting
14:01 pinesol_green Meeting started Thu Nov  2 14:01:04 2017 US/Eastern.  The chair is ohiojoe. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.
14:01 pinesol_green Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote.
14:01 pinesol_green The meeting name has been set to '2017_11_02_documentation_interest_group_meeting'
14:01 ohiojoe Introductions: paste "#info <username> is <name> <affiliation>" to identify who you are and what organization, if any, you represent
14:02 sandbergja #info sandbergja is Jane Sandberg, Linn-Benton Community College
14:02 hbrennan #info Holly Brennan, Homer Public Library (lurking)
14:02 ohiojoe #info ohiojoe is Joe Knueven, Germantown Public Library, Consortium of Ohio Libraries
14:03 abneiman #info abneiman is Andrea Neiman, EOLI
14:04 ohiojoe #topic Ongoing Business
14:04 ohiojoe #topic Progress on documenting new features in Evergreen 3.0 (and previous)
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14:07 ohiojoe welcome, if you're here for the DIG meeting, please identify yourself with "#info <username> is <name> <affiliation>" to identify who you are and what organization, if any, you represent
14:07 alynn26_ #info alynn26_ is Lynn Floyd, Anderson County Library, SCLENDS
14:07 ohiojoe and then, progress on documenting new features in EG 3.0.  Does anyone have any updates here?
14:08 alynn26_ I'm working on the library settings editor today.
14:08 abneiman ohiojoe: I would like to ask that someone merge my pullrequest for Web Client Offline Circ
14:09 alynn26_ Then I goung to tackle Spine labels
14:10 sandbergja abneiman: thanks for the pullrequest!  Could you send a link to your documentation to the documentation list, and somebody should be able to review/merge it
14:11 abneiman sandbergja: will do
14:12 ohiojoe Thank you Jane.  I was thinking "I know there are people in DIG who can do that, and at this point, I'm not yet one of them.."
14:12 ohiojoe ok, anything else?
14:13 ohiojoe alright, moving along
14:13 ohiojoe #topic Progress on reorg clean up
14:13 ohiojoe #link https://wiki.evergreen-ils.org/doku.​php?id=evergreen-docs:reorg:clean_up
14:14 sandbergja For this topic, I'm curious how much more review/assessment of the reorganized documentation we need to do
14:14 ohiojoe Which reminds me, I should have put this out here too
14:14 ohiojoe #link https://wiki.evergreen-ils.org/doku.php?id=​evergreen-docs:dig_meeting_20171102-agenda
14:15 sandbergja We created a set of requirements for the reorg project way back when
14:15 sandbergja #link https://wiki.evergreen-ils.org/doku.php?i​d=evergreen-docs:reorg_2014:requirements
14:15 sandbergja I don't know if we met all of the requirements.  Particularly the requirement that says: "We need to identify a group of beta testers for each book that will test out each book in their day-to-day operations."
14:15 alynn26_ I like the new organization.
14:16 sandbergja alynn26_:  oh great!  That's good to hear. :-)
14:16 ohiojoe even looking at the cleanup list, it looks like good progress is being made wittling down the identified needs..
14:16 alynn26_ We may need to make a call to the General list for help with that.
14:18 sandbergja I'm also not sure how many folks feel comfortable with the nitty-gritty of the new, reorganized root_*.adoc files
14:18 sandbergja i.e. folks who can actually get these issues cleaned up
14:20 sandbergja (I wouldn't be totally surprised if that's just me)
14:21 alynn26_ I am thinking give them what we have, and let them tell us what is missing.  I can run through the docs, but that's not going to tell us that.  I am thinking of actually taking the docs as is and giving it to one of our catalogers and have her go through them.
14:22 alynn26_ Especially someone who has not seen the web client at all.
14:23 sandbergja If you and your cataloger could do that, that'd be awesome!
14:24 sandbergja So, I maybe have 3 action items in mind:
14:24 sandbergja 1) send out a call to the general list to help generate some feedback
14:24 alynn26_ I'll let you know how it goes.
14:24 ohiojoe Actually, now that I read what Lynn is describing, I'm sure I could probably make an assignment or two along the same lines, either in my library or by asking for a volunteer among the other Ohio libraries to do the same..
14:25 sandbergja 2) follow alynn26_'s example and get some folks at our own libraries to test drive the new manuals
14:26 sandbergja 3) this one would be for me, but share knowledge of how to work with the new manuals on an asciidoc level (and I would appreciate guidance from this group on how the best way for me to share that knowledge might be)
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14:26 sandbergja thoughts?
14:26 ohiojoe I think those sound like good action items.  Would the call just be for other folks outside of DIG to do what Lynn described?  I could write up that appeal..
14:29 alynn26_ Yea, we look at the docs but don't see the holes, we need to find the holes.
14:30 ohiojoe ok, this sounds like a plan to me.  any objections?
14:30 sandbergja none from me
14:30 abneiman nope
14:30 ohiojoe #action ohiojoe will make a call out to the general list for help generating feedback to the current state of the reorganized documentation
14:30 ohiojoe #action everyone will find volunteers at their libraries to test drive the new manuals
14:31 ohiojoe #action sandbergja will share asciidoc level knowledge of how to work with the new manuals
14:31 ohiojoe although, now that I think about it, we didn't give you any feedback on how best to go about doing that..
14:32 alynn26_ I've not looked at it, so I've got no idea yet.
14:33 ohiojoe and I'm still at the "reread resources and learn asciidoc" stage..  I know it's not hard, I just need to carve out the time to do it..
14:35 alynn26_ Time, i wish i had more of it.
14:37 ohiojoe hmm..  I don't like to leave an action item like that hanging, but lacking any good suggestions..   perhaps we try to discuss this on the DIG list?
14:38 alynn26_ I think that would be wise
14:38 sandbergja I could always just connect with the folks who have been pushing to the git repo lately and make sure they are feeling comfortable
14:38 ohiojoe that sounds like a plan
14:39 alynn26_ Sansbergja +1
14:39 ohiojoe ok, moving along then
14:39 ohiojoe #topic Progress on documentation launchpad bugs
14:39 ohiojoe #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/evergr​een/+bugs?field.tag=documentation
14:39 ohiojoe sandbergja +1
14:39 ohiojoe any discussion here?
14:43 alynn26_ I think I need to commit to tackling at least one bug a week. I also now tgere are several we can mark as fixed.
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14:47 ohiojoe it looks like some of them already are..
14:48 ohiojoe or at least there's notation that a fix has been pushed and they've been assigned back to nobody..   should we leave this on our agenda as a useful reminder to keep an eye on it?
14:48 alynn26_ Yes
14:50 ohiojoe ok, sounds good, moving along, lets jump down to action items
14:50 ohiojoe #topic Old Business
14:50 ohiojoe #topic Previous action items
14:50 ohiojoe at first glance, it looks like some of these can be taken off..
14:52 abneiman I followed up with Angela.  She is working on doc pieces related to work we have been contracted to do (i.e. chapter 82, Overlay Existing Catalog Records), but had not intended to rewrite all of Cataloging.
14:54 sandbergja abneiman: Thanks!  That's helpful
14:54 sandbergja (and thank you, akilsdonk!)
14:55 sandbergja 5, 6, 8, and 9 are definitely done
14:56 ohiojoe excellent.  Thank you.
14:57 ohiojoe As to the new business item, I will email the DIG list and try to get a discussion started since we ran out of time here
14:57 ohiojoe #action ohiojoe will email DIG list to discuss the suggestion regarding screen name labeling in docs vs Evergreen
14:57 ohiojoe with that, I'm afraid we are coming up on the hour.  Is there anything else?
14:58 sandbergja thanks to hbrennan for lurking!  Glad to have you with us
14:58 alynn26_ Yep, glad to have you
14:59 ohiojoe yeah, thank you, you're welcome any time
14:59 hbrennan sandbergja: Sorry I couldn't participate (at circ desk) ..but I'll be reading back!
14:59 ohiojoe and with that..
14:59 ohiojoe #endmeeting
14:59 pinesol_green Meeting ended Thu Nov  2 14:59:25 2017 US/Eastern.  Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4)
14:59 pinesol_green Minutes:        http://evergreen-ils.org/meetings/evergr​een/2017/evergreen.2017-11-02-14.01.html
14:59 pinesol_green Minutes (text): http://evergreen-ils.org/meetings/evergr​een/2017/evergreen.2017-11-02-14.01.txt
14:59 pinesol_green Log:            http://evergreen-ils.org/meetings/evergree​n/2017/evergreen.2017-11-02-14.01.log.html
14:59 sandbergja thanks for leading, ohiojoe!
14:59 sandbergja ohiojoe++
14:59 alynn26_ Ohiojoe++
15:00 ohiojoe Thanks again.  Next month I'll email a reminder to the general list again, try and get more folks into these meetings..
15:00 sandbergja and thanks for all your docs work, alynn26_ and abneiman!
15:00 alynn26_ Sandbergja++
15:00 sandbergja abneiman++
15:00 sandbergja alynn26_++
15:00 ohiojoe alynn26_++
15:00 ohiojoe sandbergja++
15:00 ohiojoe abneiman++
15:01 ohiojoe I realize now, that's what I meant to do above..  lol
15:01 ohiojoe have a good afternoon/noon everyone
15:02 abneiman ohiojoe++ sandbergja++
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15:35 Bmagic Do I have something misconfigured? I am getting asset.copy_attr_vis_cache doesn't exist in my pg logs. Searching the repository, I don't see it defined in the PG schema. This sounds vaguely familiar
15:45 berick bug 1718300
15:45 pinesol_green Launchpad bug 1718300 in Evergreen "web client serials: OPAC no longer displaying serials created in webby" [High,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1718300
15:45 berick Bmagic: ^-- and 1076.function.copy_vis_attr_cache_fixup.sql perhaps?
15:47 Bmagic hmmm
15:47 Bmagic asset.copy_attr_vis_cache  !=  asset.copy_vis_attr_cache
15:48 Bmagic referenced in Open-ILS/src/perlmods/lib/OpenILS/App​lication/Storage/Publisher/metabib.pm
15:49 Bmagic berick ^
15:53 bshum Huh
15:53 bshum That's an interesting read on it
15:54 Bmagic do we have a typo in metabib.pm?
15:55 Bmagic It also turns up in sitemap_generator
15:56 hbrennan ohiojoe: The general list reminder is oh so helpful. Only way I remembered to put it on my calendar! Thanks!
16:05 bshum Bmagic: That's what it's starting to look like to me
16:05 bshum Which is newer or older I guess
16:16 bshum Given that in the DB it's "asset.copy_vis_attr_cache" I'm going to go with those other two references are bad.
16:17 bshum Bmagic: Change 'em up and re-test?  :D
16:24 bshum Bmagic++
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18:00 pinesol_green News from qatests: Test Success <http://testing.evergreen-ils.org/~live>
19:09 pinesol_green [evergreen|Jane Sandberg] Docs: replacing Admin menu with Administration menu - <http://git.evergreen-ils.org/?p=​Evergreen.git;a=commit;h=8b3eb6c>
19:35 pinesol_green [evergreen|Jane Sandberg] Docs: Fixing menu refs on booking docs - <http://git.evergreen-ils.org/?p=​Evergreen.git;a=commit;h=096f5a5>

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