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pinesol_green |
News from qatests: Test Success <http://testing.evergreen-ils.org/~live> |
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gmcharlt |
good morning |
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csharp |
@coffee gmcharlt |
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* pinesol_green |
brews and pours a cup of Sumatra Danau Toba, and sends it sliding down the bar to gmcharlt |
| 09:26 |
gmcharlt |
csharp++ |
| 09:27 |
gmcharlt |
so, general heads-up, I think master is in shape for the beta2 release, barring any last-minute updates to the draft release notes |
| 09:27 |
gmcharlt |
but given the spate of last-minute patches last night, would appreciate some testing on a fressh install, particularly on Jessie and Xenial, before we give the word to dbwells to start building |
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* csharp |
volunteers |
| 09:28 |
gmcharlt |
I also call miker's and berick's attention to commit 474afc447 for more pairs of eyes |
| 09:28 |
pinesol_green |
gmcharlt: [evergreen|Galen Charlton] LP#1718301: catch it when multiple connection attempts fail - <http://git.evergreen-ils.org/?p=Evergreen.git;a=commit;h=474afc4> |
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* csharp |
will install on xenial |
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gmcharlt |
csharp: thanks! |
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gmcharlt |
meanwhile I'll start building the OpenSRF 3.0-alpha |
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pinesol_green |
[opensrf|Galen Charlton] and continue to bump up version numbers - <http://git.evergreen-ils.org/?p=OpenSRF.git;a=commit;h=a90a1d9> |
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gmcharlt |
opensrf 3.0.0-alpha is now available for download at https://evergreen-ils.org/opensrf-downloads/ |
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gmcharlt |
no broader announcement just yet; plan to announce the same time as the beta2 |
| 11:49 |
* Dyrcona |
is struggling with vmbuilder to make fresh vms for testing. |
| 11:49 |
Dyrcona |
If it doesn't work this time, I'm going back to virtinstall and ISO images. |
| 11:50 |
* Dyrcona |
keeps hitting bugs that have solutions on Lp and each patch gets it that much closer to working.... |
| 11:50 |
Dyrcona |
And people think we're bad about keeping up with Lp..... |
| 11:51 |
Dyrcona |
"People" being myself and a few select others.... :) |
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Dyrcona |
Nope. vmbuilder just don't work no more. |
| 12:03 |
bwicksall |
Has 2.12.5-3.0-beta1-upgrade-db.sql blown up for anyone with the following? https://pastebin.com/ysHaaBXb |
| 12:12 |
Dyrcona |
No, but it looks like you have bad MARC records. |
| 12:13 |
Dyrcona |
I haven't run the upgrade script. |
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* Dyrcona |
thinks it is time to investigate lxd. |
| 12:23 |
bwicksall |
I'll run through the update step by step |
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| 12:29 |
jeffdavis |
bwicksall: At a glance it doesn't look like a bug in the upgrade script, but an issue with updating some record in your system which has bad character encoding (the "maintain_control_numbers" function usually runs when a biblio.record_entry record is updated). |
| 12:30 |
jeffdavis |
I'm trying to think of a good way to find the record(s). |
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Dyrcona |
write something to iterate through all of the biblio.record_entry table entries, spit out the id, then call maintain_control_numbers or just update the record with update on same marc set to true. |
| 12:32 |
Dyrcona |
The last record id you see will be the first one that causes a problem. |
| 12:33 |
Dyrcona |
It would help to do them in id order with a way to specify a starting record id. |
| 12:33 |
Dyrcona |
repeat that until none blow up. |
| 12:34 |
Dyrcona |
Or, if you're cleverer, write it in perl with an eval around the update and spit out the ids of the records that blow up, letting it process the good ones. |
| 12:34 |
jeffdavis |
That's basically a full reingest though right? |
| 12:34 |
Dyrcona |
Yeah, pretty much. |
| 12:34 |
Dyrcona |
But, that's how you'll find all the bad records. |
| 12:35 |
Dyrcona |
Or, I guess you could pull the marc out and try to make MARC::Record(s) out of 'em, but I've seen that succeed even on some bad records. |
| 12:36 |
jeffdavis |
I wonder if xml_is_well_formed(marc) would catch encoding issues? |
| 12:37 |
Dyrcona |
jeffdavis: Don't think so, since it runs every time a record is inserted or updated. |
| 12:38 |
Dyrcona |
Of course, if triggers were disabled during a batch load, then..... ;) |
| 12:38 |
jeffdavis |
so does maintain_control_numbers :) |
| 12:39 |
Dyrcona |
Not sure marc_export would find encoding issues like this, but it will spit errors for bad records and keep chugging. |
| 12:39 |
Dyrcona |
Sure...but I'd focus on the function that's complaining. :) |
| 12:40 |
Dyrcona |
Since you have to do a full ingest anyway might as well do it with a wrapper that will report bad records. |
| 12:42 |
Dyrcona |
"Pray, Mr. Babbage if you put the wrong figures in will the correct answer come out?" |
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kmlussier |
dbwells++ #Making serials users happy. |
| 12:50 |
kmlussier |
Irene's issue raised a question for me, though. Can we edit the raw prediction pattern code in the web client? I don't remember seeing that. |
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kmlussier |
And, if not, is there a way to address Irene's quarterly pattern issue in the web client? |
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kmlussier |
I can change bug 1709710 to no longer affecting Evergreen, right? Was that just an OpenSRF fix? |
| 13:01 |
pinesol_green |
Launchpad bug 1709710 in Evergreen "Default ejabberd max_stanza_size can be exceeded when chunking (MARC)XML-heavy responses" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1709710 |
| 13:03 |
Dyrcona |
It was a bug in OpenSRF that affected Evergreen, but not a bug in Evergreen. |
| 13:03 |
Dyrcona |
Most bugs in OpenSRF will affect Evergreen. |
| 13:03 |
Dyrcona |
Thank you, Captain Obvious. |
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* Dyrcona |
You're welcome. :) |
| 13:03 |
kmlussier |
Dyrcona: Well, I wasn't going to say that out loud, but since you said it. :) |
| 13:04 |
kmlussier |
I just want to get it off my list of 2.12 bugs. |
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Dyrcona |
I'd drop it as affecting Evergreen since no Evergreen changes were required for the fix. |
| 13:04 |
kmlussier |
Dyrcona: Thanks! |
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kmlussier |
rhamby++ #Highlighting more 3.0 goodness |
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rfrasur |
Hey my peeps. Apologies for interjecting in any ongoing conversations. rhamby_, are you about? |
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rhamby_ |
rfrasur: I am |
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rfrasur |
I'm watching the neato video you did about mobile ILS. I was wondering if anyone has rumbled/grumbled/woke_from_a_dead_stupor to ask about developing camera capability into webby so that can use tablet/phone camera as scanner? |
| 13:14 |
rfrasur |
(thank you for the video, btw. It's great and will be sharing into our local community) |
| 13:15 |
rhamby_ |
rfrasur: it's something that there is definitely interest in but it's just been low on the list of everyone's priorities right now. IMO I think interest will be higher if development is done for the uploading picture feature which i know there is interest in. |
| 13:15 |
rhamby_ |
rfrasur: last time I looked the means to make it happen wasn't complicated, it would just require someone's dedicated attention |
| 13:15 |
rfrasur |
hmm, uploading picture? that related to ID? |
| 13:16 |
rhamby_ |
rfrasur: you can have pictures associated with accounts but it's a feature that there isn't a staff UI option for right now |
| 13:16 |
rhamby_ |
rfrasur: it's actually been in Evergreen for a long time and they'll show up on the patron summary if the link is there |
| 13:16 |
rfrasur |
Hmm, vewy vewy intewesting. |
| 13:16 |
rfrasur |
Hmmmmmmmmmmm |
| 13:17 |
rhamby_ |
rfrasur: but whoever did it (an academic if memory serves?) handled it all on the backend and never really fleshed it out |
| 13:17 |
rfrasur |
Well, that happens. Is it "good" infrastructure? or something that'd need to be rewritten if there was UI developed? |
| 13:18 |
rfrasur |
(you don't have to answer that) |
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rhamby_ |
rfrasur: so if that happens then exploring the camera use to upload pictures will probably be attractive. From there, there are still "reading images as barcodes" challenges to get past but there are ways to do it and discussions would ensue. |
| 13:18 |
rhamby_ |
rfrasur: what's there is fine if minimal, there's just a fair bit to add on |
| 13:18 |
rfrasur |
Yes. I'm just thinking that if all that could packaged, it'd make using mobile devices that much more attractive. And cost effective. |
| 13:20 |
rhamby_ |
I like the idea too :) but as I said to somone last night "I'll get everyone thing I want done as soon as someone gives me unlmited access to a time turner" |
| 13:20 |
rhamby_ |
/s/everyone thing/everything <-- I shouldn't type as I think |
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* rfrasur |
laughs |
| 13:21 |
rfrasur |
Well, I'm there with ya. There's not enough time, and decreasing energy (but not inspiration) |
| 13:21 |
rfrasur |
That said, getting that mobile ILS in order would revolutionize the way we do business here. |
| 13:22 |
rfrasur |
In my specific library, that is. Heck, it'd change the way we actually have furniture placed. |
| 13:22 |
rhamby_ |
well a huge chunk is there with 3.0. printing is its own nightmare but that's the fault of the larger OS community and outside the hands of lonely ILS communities |
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rfrasur |
Right. But, and I think this functionality already exists, the option to email receipts could be a type of work around. |
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gmcharlt |
bwicksall: bug 1714026, particularly csharp's patch, may be relevant to your interests |
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pinesol_green |
Launchpad bug 1714026 in Evergreen "Maintain Control Numbers function should be schema-qualified" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1714026 |
| 13:39 |
gmcharlt |
i.e., potentially not an issue with the beta1 script per se, but may well be something to get in place by the RC |
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csharp |
hmm 'Cannot connect to offline DB: Error: http://google.github.io/lovefield/error_lookup/src/error_lookup.html?c=113' |
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csharp |
during 'grunt all' |
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pinesol_green |
[evergreen|Kathy Lussier] More release note edits for 3.0 - <http://git.evergreen-ils.org/?p=Evergreen.git;a=commit;h=7960a55> |
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pinesol_green |
[evergreen|Kathy Lussier] Docs: Add an entry for web staff client offline circ - <http://git.evergreen-ils.org/?p=Evergreen.git;a=commit;h=33b6a01> |
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gmcharlt |
csharp: does it abort the test, or just display? |
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csharp |
gmcharlt: just displays |
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gmcharlt |
csharp: ok, that's benign, at least as far as the test suite is concerned |
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csharp |
gmcharlt: ok - will move on |
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bshum |
miker++ # i18n fixing |
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tspindler |
EOB meeting will start in about 5 minutes |
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pinesol_green |
[evergreen|Mike Rylander] LP#1717777: Ensure the en-US is always represented in the dropdown - <http://git.evergreen-ils.org/?p=Evergreen.git;a=commit;h=1f10da4> |
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gmcharlt |
financial report - https://wiki.evergreen-ils.org/doku.php?id=governance:financials:update_2017_09_21 |
| 14:01 |
tspindler |
#startmeeting 2017-09-21 - Evergreen Oversight Board Meeting |
| 14:01 |
pinesol_green |
Meeting started Thu Sep 21 14:01:24 2017 US/Eastern. The chair is tspindler. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. |
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pinesol_green |
Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. |
| 14:01 |
pinesol_green |
The meeting name has been set to '2017_09_21___evergreen_oversight_board_meeting' |
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tspindler |
#topic roll call |
| 14:01 |
tspindler |
Use the #info command stating name and affiliation |
| 14:01 |
miker |
#info miker == Mike Rylander, EOLI |
| 14:01 |
tspindler |
#info tspindler is Tim Spindler, C/W MARS |
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collum |
#info collum = Garry Collum, Kenton County Public Library |
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ScottThomas |
#info scottthomas is Scott Thomas, PaILS |
| 14:02 |
gmcharlt |
#info gmcharlt = Galen Charlton, Equinox, release manager and observer |
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tspindler |
Terran, just started roll call |
| 14:02 |
terran |
Sorry I'm late |
| 14:03 |
tspindler |
NP |
| 14:03 |
terran |
#info terran is Terran McCanna, PINES |
| 14:03 |
tspindler |
I was much later last month |
| 14:03 |
tspindler |
rgagnon and rfrasur? |
| 14:03 |
rfrasur |
My bad |
| 14:04 |
rfrasur |
#info rfrasur is Ruth Frasur, Evergreen Indiana, Hagerstown Library |
| 14:04 |
rgagnon |
#info rgagnon is Ron Gagnon, NOBLE |
| 14:04 |
tspindler |
#info Agenda |
| 14:04 |
tspindler |
#link https://wiki.evergreen-ils.org/doku.php?id=governance:minutes:2017-9-21 |
| 14:04 |
tspindler |
#minutes of August 17, 2017 |
| 14:04 |
tspindler |
#link http://evergreen-ils.org/meetings/evergreen/2017/evergreen.2017-08-17-14.13.html |
| 14:05 |
tspindler |
Can I have a motion to accept the minutes? |
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| 14:05 |
rgagnon |
Move to accept the August minutes. |
| 14:05 |
rfrasur |
I'll second |
| 14:05 |
ScottThomas |
Second |
| 14:05 |
tspindler |
#info rgagnon moved to accpet minutes of 8/17/17 and rfrasur seconded |
| 14:06 |
tspindler |
#startvote Approve minutes of 8-17-17? Yes, No, Abstain |
| 14:06 |
pinesol_green |
Begin voting on: Approve minutes of 8-17-17? Valid vote options are Yes, No, Abstain. |
| 14:06 |
pinesol_green |
Vote using '#vote OPTION'. Only your last vote counts. |
| 14:06 |
tspindler |
Yes |
| 14:06 |
rgagnon |
#vote Yes |
| 14:06 |
collum |
#vote Yes |
| 14:06 |
terran |
#vote Yes |
| 14:06 |
ScottThomas |
#vote Yes |
| 14:06 |
tspindler |
#vote yes |
| 14:06 |
miker |
#vote yes |
| 14:06 |
rfrasur |
#vote yes |
| 14:06 |
tspindler |
#endvote |
| 14:06 |
pinesol_green |
Voted on "Approve minutes of 8-17-17?" Results are |
| 14:06 |
pinesol_green |
Yes (7): tspindler, rgagnon, miker, collum, rfrasur, ScottThomas, terran |
| 14:07 |
tspindler |
#topic Report of the Chair |
| 14:07 |
tspindler |
#info Nothing to report from the chair |
| 14:07 |
tspindler |
#topic Financial report |
| 14:07 |
tspindler |
#link https://wiki.evergreen-ils.org/doku.php?id=governance:financials:update_2017_09_21 |
| 14:08 |
tspindler |
gmcharlt just posed it. Any questions? |
| 14:08 |
ScottThomas |
Yes. Was $73,598.19 how much we spent at the Convington conference on food? |
| 14:08 |
rfrasur |
Reading through it. Just a moment, if that's alright |
| 14:09 |
gmcharlt |
ScottThomas: the summary numbers in the first section of the report are for the entire historical of the Evergreen Project under the SFC |
| 14:09 |
rfrasur |
Scott, I believe so, yes. |
| 14:09 |
rfrasur |
Ohhhh |
| 14:09 |
terran |
That must be what we've spent on food every since we've been with the SFC, right? |
| 14:09 |
ScottThomas |
Oh that explains it. |
| 14:10 |
tspindler |
gmcharlt, then we don't really get a Statement of Activities for a given period? (eg. P&L statement) |
| 14:10 |
gmcharlt |
no, not readily |
| 14:10 |
rfrasur |
are we still waiting on anything to be paid for the 2017 conference or is all accounted for and paid? |
| 14:10 |
tspindler |
Good to know, I wasn't aware of that |
| 14:11 |
ScottThomas |
And where can we get the expenses for individual conferences? |
| 14:11 |
gmcharlt |
numbers for the 2016 conference can be found here: https://wiki.evergreen-ils.org/doku.php?id=governance:financials:update_2016_06_15 |
| 14:12 |
ScottThomas |
Thank you. |
| 14:12 |
tspindler |
Are there other questions? |
| 14:13 |
gmcharlt |
rfrasur: to answer your question, I suspect, but don't know for certain, that ledger does not yet refelect the final venue bill |
| 14:13 |
rfrasur |
gmcharlt: my take as well. Thank you. |
| 14:14 |
tspindler |
#topic SFC Updates |
| 14:14 |
tspindler |
Amy Terlaga could not make the meeting. She did not give me anything to report at this time. |
| 14:15 |
tspindler |
Does anyone have any other information on the SFC to report? |
| 14:15 |
rfrasur |
Thank you for sending out the document via listserv. |
| 14:15 |
tspindler |
I'm not sure if it will affect us but there is a change with the SFC on some travel reimbursements. |
| 14:16 |
ScottThomas |
Are we going to address the SFC Alternatives document? |
| 14:16 |
tspindler |
That is further down in the agenda |
| 14:16 |
ScottThomas |
I see. Thank you |
| 14:17 |
tspindler |
We could tackle it now. It probably makes the most sense. |
| 14:17 |
tspindler |
#topic SFC Membership Review |
| 14:17 |
tspindler |
Everyone hopefully has had a chance to review the report. First are there questions or comments about the report? |
| 14:18 |
rfrasur |
I've reviewed it, and am curious the take of others. |
| 14:19 |
ScottThomas |
It was very clear and much appreciated. The first decision is whether to create a non-profit. Is there any reason not to make that decision now? |
| 14:19 |
terran |
Just a comment: I really appreciate the work both of you have put into it. It's very clear and thorough. |
| 14:19 |
rgagnon |
It's good to have some really promising options. |
| 14:20 |
tspindler |
From a time standpoint, I think we want to make some decision by the conference. Assuming we leave the SFC, we want whatever new organization that takes over to be able to set up contracts for the 2019 conference. |
| 14:20 |
rfrasur |
I guess my thoughts are...we seem to have been moving pretty steadily toward deciding to leave the SFC. |
| 14:21 |
rfrasur |
Is there any reason that we WOULDN'T want to leave the SFC based on the options addressed in the doc? |
| 14:21 |
terran |
And the SFC has dropped heavy hints that they aren't all that interested in continuing to support us. |
| 14:21 |
rfrasur |
terran: exactly |
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| 14:21 |
rfrasur |
Then...are there costs associated with separating? |
| 14:22 |
rfrasur |
Before we address the costs of establishing a 501(c)3 or whatever. |
| 14:22 |
tspindler |
I know some have really expressed concerns about the financial management. We had a significant issue that gmcharlt tracked down for the 2017 conference. |
| 14:22 |
ScottThomas |
We can frame a motion and make the decision today. Do we have an exact date as to when we want to terminate our relationship with them? |
| 14:22 |
tspindler |
rfrasur: I am not aware of separation costs but I must admit I have not investigated it. |
| 14:23 |
rfrasur |
ScottThomas: I'm not sure that we've even definitively said that we ARE going to separate yet. |
| 14:23 |
terran |
We had financial management issues with them after the 2016 conference as well. |
| 14:23 |
rgagnon |
Have we run any numbers to estimate how paying one of these concerns compares to the 10% charged by SFC? |
| 14:24 |
tspindler |
rgagnon: Sharon and I have not but I we could do that for the next meeting |
| 14:24 |
rfrasur |
I think that before we can set a date for leaving, if we move and vote to separate, we need to know, as definitively as possible, what the costs of both leaving and then setting up the nonprofit are. |
| 14:24 |
tspindler |
We could also determin any separtion costs |
| 14:25 |
rfrasur |
But, I would like to set a deadline to both have those costs, as much as possible, available. Perhaps before the next meeting, so that we could then decide if it was appopriate to set a date to vote on separating, etc. etc. |
| 14:25 |
ScottThomas |
That makes sense. I would like to lend a hand with this work. |
| 14:25 |
miker |
would the pre-hack-a-way EOB day be a good deadline? |
| 14:25 |
rfrasur |
Now, assuming we are going to set up a nonprofit, there are some other questions. What is going to be called? I know it's basic...but important. |
| 14:26 |
miker |
or, say, 2 weeks before that |
| 14:26 |
miker |
for digesting |
| 14:26 |
tspindler |
Do you want Sharon and I to gather costs and report back? One thing we want to do is make a decision by January 1, 2018. |
| 14:26 |
rfrasur |
miker: I'm not sure there's still going to be a EOB day, but yes. |
| 14:26 |
tspindler |
miker: yes I think we can do that |
| 14:26 |
rfrasur |
tspindler, yes and yes. |
| 14:26 |
terran |
I thought we decided not to do the EOB day? |
| 14:27 |
tspindler |
the next meeting will not be at the hackaway but the usual third thursday of the month |
| 14:27 |
rfrasur |
terran: that's right, but there will be a regular meeting. So perhaps for that? |
| 14:27 |
miker |
I don't recall that, but that doesn't mean it's not true :) |
| 14:28 |
terran |
I'd be more comfortable if we set the vote date for October rather than November. I feel like we need to get moving in order to have it settled before the conference. |
| 14:28 |
tspindler |
#action tspindler will prepare cost analyis for the next EOB that includes costs of separating from SFC and cost comparison of new models to cost of SFC membership |
| 14:28 |
miker |
fwiw, https://wiki.evergreen-ils.org/doku.php?id=hack-a-way-2017 still claims an EOB day on the 6th ... |
| 14:28 |
rfrasur |
If that's possible, I agree with Terran on October rather than November...but it might be a big ask. |
| 14:29 |
tspindler |
terran, we really need something in palce before we sign contracts for the 2019 conference so I think we are ok. |
| 14:29 |
rfrasur |
My other question is that there were three orgs mentioned as interested in the report, but only two survey responses. |
| 14:29 |
tspindler |
Someone can correct me if I'm wrong but I don't think we can leave the SFC before the conference ends because of insurance, etc. also |
| 14:30 |
rfrasur |
tspindler, that sounds familiar. |
| 14:30 |
tspindler |
rfrasur: C/W MARS withdrew |
| 14:30 |
rfrasur |
tspindler...so it says in the next sentence. My apologies and thank you. |
| 14:30 |
terran |
I thought the plan was to do the transition at the conference? Didn't the SFC offer to be there to support any transition work that needed to be done? |
| 14:30 |
collum |
They did. |
| 14:30 |
rfrasur |
terran, they did. |
| 14:31 |
tspindler |
Ok, so I think having a decision before the end of the calendar year is good. I think the one stumbling block is that if we chose to go with setting up a non-profit, it is extremely unlikely we would have one set up by the conference |
| 14:32 |
terran |
I am dubious about that as well |
| 14:32 |
ScottThomas |
We would need a plan for the transition from SFC to non-profit. It does take awhile. |
| 14:32 |
rfrasur |
Yes |
| 14:33 |
ScottThomas |
But no reason not to do it. |
| 14:33 |
rgagnon |
Yes, I believe the 501c3 approval would take a while. |
| 14:33 |
terran |
Either way, the sooner we are able to make a decision, the better |
| 14:33 |
rfrasur |
Though, from my experience, the IRS will provide some interim documentation... |
| 14:33 |
tspindler |
I think that is why we would first transition to an existing non-profit and then looking at establishing our own non-profit after that. It is what Sharon and I were recommending in the report. |
| 14:34 |
ScottThomas |
We will also need Bylaws, registered agent, stuff like that, |
| 14:34 |
rfrasur |
tspindler++ |
| 14:34 |
terran |
I like that idea |
| 14:34 |
collum |
tspindler++ |
| 14:35 |
ScottThomas |
Maybe look at having the non-profit in place by the 2019 conference. |
| 14:35 |
rfrasur |
So, if we can get info about any costs associated with leaving by October... |
| 14:35 |
ScottThomas |
Using an existing non-profit as an interim. |
| 14:35 |
tspindler |
rfrasur: yes I think that is doable |
| 14:35 |
rfrasur |
We can decide if that would be the appopriate time to vote one way or the other. |
| 14:35 |
terran |
+1 |
| 14:35 |
tspindler |
we will have the cost information before the next EOB meeting |
| 14:36 |
rfrasur |
tspindler: thank you and thanks for all the extra work you've been doing (and Sharon as well) |
| 14:36 |
ScottThomas |
tspindler++ |
| 14:36 |
rgagnon |
tspindler++ |
| 14:36 |
tspindler |
I think its important this question be resolved one way or another this year. It has been a recurring topic on the EOB. |
| 14:36 |
terran |
tspindler++ |
| 14:36 |
rfrasur |
agreed tspindler |
| 14:36 |
collum |
+1 |
| 14:37 |
tspindler |
#topic Release Manager (Galen Charlton) |
| 14:37 |
tspindler |
#link https://evergreen-ils.org/evergreen-3-0-development-update-15-feature-freeze/ |
| 14:37 |
tspindler |
gmcharlt, do you have anything to add? |
| 14:37 |
gmcharlt |
#info Evergreen 3.0 is proceeding on schedule with general release on 3 October |
| 14:37 |
gmcharlt |
#info The second beta release will come out today |
| 14:37 |
gmcharlt |
#info Important to emphasize that Evergreen 3.0 now requires OpenSRF 3.0, which has an alpha release today |
| 14:37 |
gmcharlt |
that's it unless there are questions for me |
| 14:38 |
terran |
We're starting training PINES staff on it next Monday so that they can do more testing and be fully prepared for our January upgrade. |
| 14:38 |
terran |
Everyone is very excited. |
| 14:38 |
tspindler |
terran++ |
| 14:38 |
tspindler |
we will be interested how it goes for PINES |
| 14:38 |
ScottThomas |
We also hope to upgrade asap. Looking at very early January |
| 14:38 |
tspindler |
gmcharlt++ |
| 14:38 |
terran |
We're doing MLK Jr weekend |
| 14:39 |
rfrasur |
I think 3.0 is our December upgrade here in Indiana. |
| 14:39 |
tspindler |
Any other questoins for gmcharlt? |
| 14:39 |
rfrasur |
Nope, but all the props. and gmcharlt++ |
| 14:39 |
ScottThomas |
gmcharlt++ |
| 14:40 |
terran |
gmcharlt++ |
| 14:40 |
rgagnon |
gmcharlt++ |
| 14:40 |
collum |
gmcharlt++ |
| 14:40 |
miker |
gmcharlt++ |
| 14:40 |
gmcharlt |
tis a collective effort |
| 14:40 |
gmcharlt |
EvergreenTheFolks++ |
| 14:40 |
terran |
EvergreenTheFolks++ definitely |
| 14:40 |
rfrasur |
Yeah, but you have cute cats |
| 14:40 |
rfrasur |
It matters |
| 14:41 |
tspindler |
#topic 2018 Conference Committee Report |
| 14:41 |
tspindler |
Amy is not here but is there anyone on the conference committee who can report anything? |
| 14:41 |
tspindler |
I saw the hotel announcement |
| 14:41 |
collum |
Yep. Hotel info is on the web. |
| 14:41 |
terran |
We nearly have the sponsorship packet ready to send out to start soliciting sponsorships and exhibitors |
| 14:42 |
collum |
MOBIUS is working on a logo, and contacting keynote speakers. |
| 14:42 |
tspindler |
#info hotel info is up, sponsorship packet is ready and MOBIUS is working on logo and contacting speakers |
| 14:43 |
terran |
We should be sending out the call for program ideas soon - maybe next week? |
| 14:43 |
terran |
I'm not sure what the schedule is on that, but I know it's soon |
| 14:43 |
tspindler |
that all sounds good |
| 14:44 |
tspindler |
Anything else? |
| 14:44 |
collum |
I can't think of anything else off the top of my head. terran? |
| 14:44 |
terran |
Nope |
| 14:44 |
tspindler |
#topic Outreach Committee (Kathy Lussier) |
| 14:44 |
tspindler |
I just want to say I really like the videos outreach is doing |
| 14:45 |
kmlussier |
#info The Outreach Committee has been working on a campaign to promote the upcoming 3.0 release with a series of "On the Road to 3.0" videos. We encourage folks to share them with your libraries to get a look at what's coming with the release. |
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kmlussier |
We released the latest one today, feature rhamby_ as narrator. |
| 14:45 |
kmlussier |
Also, please subscribe to our new Evergreen YouTube channel. We need 100 subscribers to get a custom URL. |
| 14:45 |
tspindler |
rhamby_ ++ |
| 14:46 |
terran |
kmlussier++ rhamby_++ |
| 14:46 |
ScottThomas |
rhamby++ |
| 14:46 |
rfrasur |
The videos are great. Thank you. rhamby_++ kmlussier++ |
| 14:46 |
terran |
I haven't watched the second one yet, but the first one was great! Are library staff that watched it immediately asked for more. |
| 14:46 |
kmlussier |
#info I had also hoped to have a quote for you to vote today for refreshing the Evergreen logo. The quote we received was very affordable, but I just wanted to clarify a couple of things to make sure we're all on the same page. I should have something for you by the October meeting. |
| 14:46 |
rgagnon |
kmlussier++ rhamby_++ |
| 14:46 |
kmlussier |
That's all I have. |
| 14:47 |
tspindler |
kmlussier++ |
| 14:47 |
tspindler |
Any questions for kmlussier? |
| 14:47 |
ScottThomas |
kmlussier++ |
| 14:47 |
rfrasur |
kmlussier, thank you. Looking forward to moving on the logo as well. kmlussier++ |
| 14:47 |
collum |
kmlussier++ |
| 14:48 |
tspindler |
#topic Old Business |
| 14:49 |
tspindler |
#info there was an action item for me to look at the next months EOB meeting and the hackaway, but it it was resolved by the end of the meeting |
| 14:49 |
tspindler |
#topic New Business |
| 14:49 |
tspindler |
Any new items anyone wants to raise? |
| 14:50 |
rfrasur |
yeah...hold |
| 14:50 |
rfrasur |
Are there any responsibilities held by graced that need to be taken on? Or had they mostly been handed off already? |
| 14:51 |
rfrasur |
Or is she remaining active in the community? (graced...if you're here) |
| 14:51 |
miker |
I don't think Grace had any community duties anymore. she handed off her conf committee stuff last spring |
| 14:51 |
tspindler |
#info Are there responsibilities that graced had that need to be reassigned? |
| 14:51 |
tspindler |
I'm not aware of any myself either. |
| 14:51 |
miker |
(she's unavailable ATM) |
| 14:51 |
rfrasur |
miker: I was under that impression as well, but wanted to make sure we'd not missed anything. |
| 14:53 |
tspindler |
Ok I'm going to say that we don't need to reassign any duties |
| 14:53 |
tspindler |
#info no duties need to be reassigned from graced |
| 14:53 |
tspindler |
Any other last minute topics? |
| 14:54 |
miker |
though, she would likely appreciate the reassignment of any gin you may have to her |
| 14:54 |
tspindler |
#info Next meeting will be in IRC on 10/19/17 2PM EST |
| 14:54 |
rfrasur |
Thanks all |
| 14:54 |
tspindler |
not bourbon? |
| 14:54 |
rfrasur |
Hmm, no...definitely gin |
| 14:54 |
miker |
aye, gin |
| 14:54 |
miker |
assign the bourbon to me :) |
| 14:54 |
rfrasur |
and scotch to me |
| 14:55 |
rfrasur |
please and thank you |
| 14:55 |
terran |
Cider here |
| 14:55 |
rfrasur |
tspindler++ |
| 14:55 |
terran |
Thanks everyone! |
| 14:55 |
gmcharlt |
cool, that means I get ALL THE COFFEE! |
| 14:55 |
rfrasur |
graced++ thanks for all the all |
| 14:55 |
tspindler |
ok can we have a motion to adjourn |
| 14:55 |
ScottThomas |
tspindler++ |
| 14:55 |
collum |
tspindler++ |
| 14:55 |
gmcharlt |
tspindler++ |
| 14:55 |
terran |
I so move |
| 14:55 |
* rfrasur |
moves to adjourn |
| 14:55 |
ScottThomas |
Second |
| 14:55 |
tspindler |
#info terran moves to adjourn |
| 14:55 |
tspindler |
#endmeeting |
| 14:55 |
pinesol_green |
Meeting ended Thu Sep 21 14:55:45 2017 US/Eastern. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) |
| 14:55 |
pinesol_green |
Minutes: http://evergreen-ils.org/meetings/evergreen/2017/evergreen.2017-09-21-14.01.html |
| 14:55 |
pinesol_green |
Minutes (text): http://evergreen-ils.org/meetings/evergreen/2017/evergreen.2017-09-21-14.01.txt |
| 14:55 |
pinesol_green |
Log: http://evergreen-ils.org/meetings/evergreen/2017/evergreen.2017-09-21-14.01.log.html |
| 14:55 |
tspindler |
Thanks all |
| 14:56 |
kmlussier |
tspindler++ |
| 14:56 |
miker |
tspindler++ |
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terran |
tspindler++ |
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gmcharlt |
https://evergreen-ils.org/second-evergreen-3-0-beta-released-opensrf-3-0-0-alpha/ |
| 16:33 |
gmcharlt |
dbwells++ |
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gmcharlt |
AllYall++ |
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abneiman |
gmcharlt++ |
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pinesol_green |
News from qatests: Test Success <http://testing.evergreen-ils.org/~live> |
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csharp |
seeing some sporadic complaints of network errors and slow response times from catalogers on 2.12/OpenSRF 2.5.2 - anyone else? |
| 17:03 |
csharp |
I don't have many specifics |
| 17:03 |
csharp |
but circ staff aren't complaining as much (that I'm aware of) |
| 17:05 |
csharp |
ah maybe bug 1704396? |
| 17:05 |
pinesol_green |
Launchpad bug 1704396 in Evergreen "Slowness for metarecord and one-hit searches in 2.12" [High,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1704396 |
| 17:05 |
mmorgan |
csharp: We're seeing network errors. Our production system is OpenSRF 2.5.0 Evergreen 2.12.4. |
| 17:05 |
mmorgan |
May be related to that bug. |
| 17:07 |
mmorgan |
One thing we've noticed is a staff user has a full record on the screen, but no record summary loads in the top pane. Then there's a network error about 70 seconds later. |
| 17:07 |
* mmorgan |
just throws that out there and runs away... |
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| 17:19 |
bwicksall |
@gmcharlt bug 1714026 does look like a good candidate for my problem. I started a fresh upgrade so I should know early tomorrow. I do see duplicate functions in my DB. |
| 17:19 |
pinesol_green |
bwicksall: Ba ba ba dook Dook DOOK! |
| 17:20 |
gmcharlt |
groovy |
| 17:20 |
gmcharlt |
I'll target that bug to the RC so that it stays in mind for the candidate |
| 17:21 |
bwicksall |
I'll comment on the bug once I know more |
| 17:21 |
gmcharlt |
thanks |
| 17:30 |
Bmagic |
I have never setup authorize.net. The library settings require "username" / "password" / "server" - is that API login ID, transaction key? |
| 17:32 |
csharp |
Bmagic: it's been a while but I think so |
| 17:33 |
csharp |
I think all of our libraries went with Stripe in the end |
| 17:33 |
csharp |
bug 1714026 |
| 17:33 |
pinesol_green |
Launchpad bug 1714026 in Evergreen "Maintain Control Numbers function should be schema-qualified" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1714026 |
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Bmagic |
csharp++ |
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