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05:01 pinesol_green News from qatests: Test Success <http://testing.evergreen-ils.org/~live>
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09:25 gmcharlt good morning
09:26 csharp @coffee gmcharlt
09:26 * pinesol_green brews and pours a cup of Sumatra Danau Toba, and sends it sliding down the bar to gmcharlt
09:26 gmcharlt csharp++
09:27 gmcharlt so, general heads-up, I think master is in shape for the beta2 release, barring any last-minute updates to the draft release notes
09:27 gmcharlt but given the spate of last-minute patches last night, would appreciate some testing on a fressh install, particularly on Jessie and Xenial, before we give the word to dbwells to start building
09:28 * csharp volunteers
09:28 gmcharlt I also call miker's and berick's attention to commit 474afc447 for more pairs of eyes
09:28 pinesol_green gmcharlt: [evergreen|Galen Charlton] LP#1718301: catch it when multiple connection attempts fail - <http://git.evergreen-ils.org/?p=​Evergreen.git;a=commit;h=474afc4>
09:29 * csharp will install on xenial
09:29 gmcharlt csharp: thanks!
09:31 gmcharlt meanwhile I'll start building the OpenSRF 3.0-alpha
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09:37 pinesol_green [opensrf|Galen Charlton] and continue to bump up version numbers - <http://git.evergreen-ils.org/?p​=OpenSRF.git;a=commit;h=a90a1d9>
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11:45 gmcharlt opensrf 3.0.0-alpha is now available for download at https://evergreen-ils.org/opensrf-downloads/
11:45 gmcharlt no broader announcement just yet; plan to announce the same time as the beta2
11:49 * Dyrcona is struggling with vmbuilder to make fresh vms for testing.
11:49 Dyrcona If it doesn't work this time, I'm going back to virtinstall and ISO images.
11:50 * Dyrcona keeps hitting bugs that have solutions on Lp and each patch gets it that much closer to working....
11:50 Dyrcona And people think we're bad about keeping up with Lp.....
11:51 Dyrcona "People" being myself and a few select others.... :)
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12:01 Dyrcona Nope. vmbuilder just don't work no more.
12:03 bwicksall Has 2.12.5-3.0-beta1-upgrade-db.sql blown up for anyone with the following? https://pastebin.com/ysHaaBXb
12:12 Dyrcona No, but it looks like you have bad MARC records.
12:13 Dyrcona I haven't run the upgrade script.
12:13 * Dyrcona thinks it is time to investigate lxd.
12:23 bwicksall I'll run through the update step by step
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12:29 jeffdavis bwicksall: At a glance it doesn't look like a bug in the upgrade script, but an issue with updating some record in your system which has bad character encoding (the "maintain_control_numbers" function usually runs when a biblio.record_entry record is updated).
12:30 jeffdavis I'm trying to think of a good way to find the record(s).
12:32 Dyrcona write something to iterate through all of the biblio.record_entry table entries, spit out the id, then call maintain_control_numbers or just update the record with update on same marc set to true.
12:32 Dyrcona The last record id you see will be the first one that causes a problem.
12:33 Dyrcona It would help to do them in id order with a way to specify a starting record id.
12:33 Dyrcona repeat that until none blow up.
12:34 Dyrcona Or, if you're cleverer, write it in perl with an eval around the update and spit out the ids of the records that blow up, letting it process the good ones.
12:34 jeffdavis That's basically a full reingest though right?
12:34 Dyrcona Yeah, pretty much.
12:34 Dyrcona But, that's how you'll find all the bad records.
12:35 Dyrcona Or, I guess you could pull the marc out and try to make MARC::Record(s) out of 'em, but I've seen that succeed even on some bad records.
12:36 jeffdavis I wonder if xml_is_well_formed(marc) would catch encoding issues?
12:37 Dyrcona jeffdavis: Don't think so, since it runs every time a record is inserted or updated.
12:38 Dyrcona Of course, if triggers were disabled during a batch load, then..... ;)
12:38 jeffdavis so does maintain_control_numbers :)
12:39 Dyrcona Not sure marc_export would find encoding issues like this, but it will spit errors for bad records and keep chugging.
12:39 Dyrcona Sure...but I'd focus on the function that's complaining. :)
12:40 Dyrcona Since you have to do a full ingest anyway might as well do it with a wrapper that will report bad records.
12:42 Dyrcona "Pray, Mr. Babbage if you put the wrong figures in will the correct answer come out?"
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12:49 kmlussier dbwells++ #Making serials users happy.
12:50 kmlussier Irene's issue raised a question for me, though. Can we edit the raw prediction pattern code in the web client? I don't remember seeing that.
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12:50 kmlussier And, if not, is there a way to address Irene's quarterly pattern issue in the web client?
13:01 kmlussier I can change bug 1709710  to no longer affecting Evergreen, right? Was that just an OpenSRF fix?
13:01 pinesol_green Launchpad bug 1709710 in Evergreen "Default ejabberd max_stanza_size can be exceeded when chunking (MARC)XML-heavy responses" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1709710
13:03 Dyrcona It was a bug in OpenSRF that affected Evergreen, but not a bug in Evergreen.
13:03 Dyrcona Most bugs in OpenSRF will affect Evergreen.
13:03 Dyrcona Thank you, Captain Obvious.
13:03 * Dyrcona You're welcome. :)
13:03 kmlussier Dyrcona: Well, I wasn't going to say that out loud, but since you said it. :)
13:04 kmlussier I just want to get it off my list of 2.12 bugs.
13:04 Dyrcona I'd drop it as affecting Evergreen since no Evergreen changes were required for the fix.
13:04 kmlussier Dyrcona: Thanks!
13:07 kmlussier rhamby++ #Highlighting more 3.0 goodness
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13:12 rfrasur Hey my peeps.  Apologies for interjecting in any ongoing conversations.  rhamby_, are you about?
13:12 rhamby_ rfrasur: I am
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13:13 rfrasur I'm watching the neato video you did about mobile ILS.  I was wondering if anyone has rumbled/grumbled/woke_from_a_dead_stupor to ask about developing camera capability into webby so that can use tablet/phone camera as scanner?
13:14 rfrasur (thank you for the video, btw.  It's great and will be sharing into our local community)
13:15 rhamby_ rfrasur: it's something that there is definitely interest in but it's just been low on the list of everyone's priorities right now.  IMO I think interest will be higher if development is done for the uploading picture feature which i know there is interest in.
13:15 rhamby_ rfrasur: last time I looked the means to make it happen wasn't complicated, it would just require someone's dedicated attention
13:15 rfrasur hmm, uploading picture?  that related to ID?
13:16 rhamby_ rfrasur: you can have pictures associated with accounts but it's a feature that there isn't a staff UI option for right now
13:16 rhamby_ rfrasur: it's actually been in Evergreen for a long time and they'll show up on the patron summary if the link is there
13:16 rfrasur Hmm, vewy vewy intewesting.
13:16 rfrasur Hmmmmmmmmmmm
13:17 rhamby_ rfrasur: but whoever did it (an academic if memory serves?) handled it all on the backend and never really fleshed it out
13:17 rfrasur Well, that happens.  Is it "good" infrastructure? or something that'd need to be rewritten if there was UI developed?
13:18 rfrasur (you don't have to answer that)
13:18 rhamby_ rfrasur: so if that happens then exploring the camera use to upload pictures will probably be attractive.  From there, there are still "reading images as barcodes" challenges to get past but there are ways to do it and discussions would ensue.
13:18 rhamby_ rfrasur: what's there is fine if minimal, there's just a fair bit to add on
13:18 rfrasur Yes.  I'm just thinking that if all that could packaged, it'd make using mobile devices that much more attractive.  And cost effective.
13:20 rhamby_ I like the idea too :)  but as I said to somone last night "I'll get everyone thing I want done as soon as someone gives me unlmited access to a time turner"
13:20 rhamby_ /s/everyone thing/everything <-- I shouldn't type as I think
13:20 * rfrasur laughs
13:21 rfrasur Well, I'm there with ya.  There's not enough time, and decreasing energy (but not inspiration)
13:21 rfrasur That said, getting that mobile ILS in order would revolutionize the way we do business here.
13:22 rfrasur In my specific library, that is.  Heck, it'd change the way we actually have furniture placed.
13:22 rhamby_ well a huge chunk is there with 3.0.  printing is its own nightmare but that's the fault of the larger OS community and outside the hands of lonely ILS communities
13:23 rfrasur Right.  But, and I think this functionality already exists, the option to email receipts could be a type of work around.
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13:38 gmcharlt bwicksall: bug 1714026, particularly csharp's patch, may be relevant to your interests
13:38 pinesol_green Launchpad bug 1714026 in Evergreen "Maintain Control Numbers function should be schema-qualified" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1714026
13:39 gmcharlt i.e., potentially not an issue with the beta1 script per se, but may well be something to get in place by the RC
13:41 csharp hmm 'Cannot connect to offline DB: Error: http://google.github.io/lovefield/erro​r_lookup/src/error_lookup.html?c=113'
13:41 csharp during 'grunt all'
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13:44 pinesol_green [evergreen|Kathy Lussier] More release note edits for 3.0 - <http://git.evergreen-ils.org/?p=​Evergreen.git;a=commit;h=7960a55>
13:44 pinesol_green [evergreen|Kathy Lussier] Docs: Add an entry for web staff client offline circ - <http://git.evergreen-ils.org/?p=​Evergreen.git;a=commit;h=33b6a01>
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13:52 gmcharlt csharp: does it abort the test, or just display?
13:53 csharp gmcharlt: just displays
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13:54 gmcharlt csharp: ok, that's benign, at least as far as the test suite is concerned
13:54 csharp gmcharlt: ok - will move on
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13:56 bshum miker++ # i18n fixing
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13:57 tspindler EOB meeting will start in about 5 minutes
13:58 pinesol_green [evergreen|Mike Rylander] LP#1717777: Ensure the en-US is always represented in the dropdown - <http://git.evergreen-ils.org/?p=​Evergreen.git;a=commit;h=1f10da4>
13:59 gmcharlt financial report - https://wiki.evergreen-ils.org/doku.php?i​d=governance:financials:update_2017_09_21
14:01 tspindler #startmeeting 2017-09-21 - Evergreen Oversight Board Meeting
14:01 pinesol_green Meeting started Thu Sep 21 14:01:24 2017 US/Eastern.  The chair is tspindler. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.
14:01 pinesol_green Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote.
14:01 pinesol_green The meeting name has been set to '2017_09_21___evergreen_oversight_board_meeting'
14:01 tspindler #topic roll call
14:01 tspindler Use the #info command stating name and affiliation
14:01 miker #info miker == Mike Rylander, EOLI
14:01 tspindler #info tspindler is Tim Spindler, C/W MARS
14:01 collum #info collum = Garry Collum, Kenton County Public Library
14:01 ScottThomas #info scottthomas is Scott Thomas, PaILS
14:02 gmcharlt #info gmcharlt = Galen Charlton, Equinox, release manager and observer
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14:02 tspindler Terran, just started roll call
14:02 terran Sorry I'm late
14:03 tspindler NP
14:03 terran #info terran is Terran McCanna, PINES
14:03 tspindler I was much later last month
14:03 tspindler rgagnon and rfrasur?
14:03 rfrasur My bad
14:04 rfrasur #info rfrasur is Ruth Frasur, Evergreen Indiana, Hagerstown Library
14:04 rgagnon #info rgagnon is Ron Gagnon, NOBLE
14:04 tspindler #info Agenda
14:04 tspindler #link  https://wiki.evergreen-ils.org/doku.​php?id=governance:minutes:2017-9-21
14:04 tspindler #minutes of August 17, 2017
14:04 tspindler #link  http://evergreen-ils.org/meetings/evergr​een/2017/evergreen.2017-08-17-14.13.html
14:05 tspindler Can I have a motion to accept the minutes?
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14:05 rgagnon Move to accept the August minutes.
14:05 rfrasur I'll second
14:05 ScottThomas Second
14:05 tspindler #info rgagnon moved to accpet minutes of 8/17/17 and rfrasur seconded
14:06 tspindler #startvote Approve minutes of 8-17-17? Yes, No, Abstain
14:06 pinesol_green Begin voting on: Approve minutes of 8-17-17? Valid vote options are Yes, No, Abstain.
14:06 pinesol_green Vote using '#vote OPTION'. Only your last vote counts.
14:06 tspindler Yes
14:06 rgagnon #vote Yes
14:06 collum #vote Yes
14:06 terran #vote Yes
14:06 ScottThomas #vote Yes
14:06 tspindler #vote yes
14:06 miker #vote yes
14:06 rfrasur #vote yes
14:06 tspindler #endvote
14:06 pinesol_green Voted on "Approve minutes of 8-17-17?" Results are
14:06 pinesol_green Yes (7): tspindler, rgagnon, miker, collum, rfrasur, ScottThomas, terran
14:07 tspindler #topic Report of the Chair
14:07 tspindler #info Nothing to report from the chair
14:07 tspindler #topic Financial report
14:07 tspindler #link https://wiki.evergreen-ils.org/doku.php?i​d=governance:financials:update_2017_09_21
14:08 tspindler gmcharlt just posed it.  Any questions?
14:08 ScottThomas Yes. Was  $73,598.19 how much we spent at the Convington conference on food?
14:08 rfrasur Reading through it.  Just a moment, if that's alright
14:09 gmcharlt ScottThomas: the summary numbers in the first section of the report are for the entire historical of the Evergreen Project under the SFC
14:09 rfrasur Scott, I believe so, yes.
14:09 rfrasur Ohhhh
14:09 terran That must be what we've spent on food every since we've been with the SFC, right?
14:09 ScottThomas Oh that explains it.
14:10 tspindler gmcharlt, then we don't really get a Statement of Activities for a given period? (eg. P&L statement)
14:10 gmcharlt no, not readily
14:10 rfrasur are we still waiting on anything to be paid for the 2017 conference or is all accounted for and paid?
14:10 tspindler Good to know, I wasn't aware of that
14:11 ScottThomas And where can we get the expenses for individual conferences?
14:11 gmcharlt numbers for the 2016 conference can be found here: https://wiki.evergreen-ils.org/doku.php?i​d=governance:financials:update_2016_06_15
14:12 ScottThomas Thank you.
14:12 tspindler Are there other questions?
14:13 gmcharlt rfrasur: to answer your question, I suspect, but don't know for certain, that ledger does not yet refelect the final venue bill
14:13 rfrasur gmcharlt: my take as well.  Thank you.
14:14 tspindler #topic SFC Updates
14:14 tspindler Amy Terlaga could not make the meeting.  She did not give me anything to report at this time.
14:15 tspindler Does anyone have any other information on the SFC to report?
14:15 rfrasur Thank you for sending out the document via listserv.
14:15 tspindler I'm not sure if it will affect us but there is a change with the SFC on some travel reimbursements.
14:16 ScottThomas Are we going to address the SFC Alternatives document?
14:16 tspindler That is further down in the agenda
14:16 ScottThomas I see. Thank you
14:17 tspindler We could tackle it now.  It probably makes the most sense.
14:17 tspindler #topic SFC Membership Review
14:17 tspindler Everyone hopefully has had a chance to review the report.  First are there questions or comments about the report?
14:18 rfrasur I've reviewed it, and am curious the take of others.
14:19 ScottThomas It was very clear and much appreciated. The first decision is whether to create a non-profit. Is there any reason not to make that decision now?
14:19 terran Just a comment: I really appreciate the work both of you have put into it. It's very clear and thorough.
14:19 rgagnon It's good to have some really promising options.
14:20 tspindler From a time standpoint, I think we want to make some decision by the conference.   Assuming we leave the SFC, we want whatever new organization that takes over to be able to set up contracts for the 2019 conference.
14:20 rfrasur I guess my thoughts are...we seem to have been moving pretty steadily toward deciding to leave the SFC.
14:21 rfrasur Is there any reason that we WOULDN'T want to leave the SFC based on the options addressed in the doc?
14:21 terran And the SFC has dropped heavy hints that they aren't all that interested in continuing to support us.
14:21 rfrasur terran: exactly
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14:21 rfrasur Then...are there costs associated with separating?
14:22 rfrasur Before we address the costs of establishing a 501(c)3 or whatever.
14:22 tspindler I know some have really expressed concerns about the financial management.  We had a significant issue that gmcharlt tracked down for the 2017 conference.
14:22 ScottThomas We can frame a motion and make the decision today. Do we have an exact date as to when we want to terminate our relationship with them?
14:22 tspindler rfrasur: I am not aware of separation costs but I must admit I have not investigated it.
14:23 rfrasur ScottThomas: I'm not sure that we've even definitively said that we ARE going to separate yet.
14:23 terran We had financial management issues with them after the 2016 conference as well.
14:23 rgagnon Have we run any numbers to estimate how paying one of these concerns compares to the 10% charged by SFC?
14:24 tspindler rgagnon: Sharon and I have not but I we could do that for the next meeting
14:24 rfrasur I think that before we can set a date for leaving, if we move and vote to separate, we need to know, as definitively as possible, what the costs of both leaving and then setting up the nonprofit are.
14:24 tspindler We could also determin any separtion costs
14:25 rfrasur But, I would like to set a deadline to both have those costs, as much as possible, available.  Perhaps before the next meeting, so that we could then decide if it was appopriate to set a date to vote on separating, etc. etc.
14:25 ScottThomas That makes sense. I would like to lend a hand with this work.
14:25 miker would the pre-hack-a-way EOB day be a good deadline?
14:25 rfrasur Now, assuming we are going to set up a nonprofit, there are some other questions.  What is going to be called?  I know it's basic...but important.
14:26 miker or, say, 2 weeks before that
14:26 miker for digesting
14:26 tspindler Do you want Sharon and I to gather costs and report back?  One thing we want to do is make a decision by January 1, 2018.
14:26 rfrasur miker: I'm not sure there's still going to be a EOB day, but yes.
14:26 tspindler miker: yes I think we can do that
14:26 rfrasur tspindler, yes and yes.
14:26 terran I thought we decided not to do the EOB day?
14:27 tspindler the next meeting will not be at the hackaway but the usual third thursday of the month
14:27 rfrasur terran: that's right, but there will be a regular meeting.  So perhaps for that?
14:27 miker I don't recall that, but that doesn't mean it's not true :)
14:28 terran I'd be more comfortable if we set the vote date for October rather than November. I feel like we need to get moving in order to have it settled before the conference.
14:28 tspindler #action tspindler will prepare cost analyis for the next EOB that includes costs of separating from SFC and cost comparison of new models to cost of SFC membership
14:28 miker fwiw, https://wiki.evergreen-ils.or​g/doku.php?id=hack-a-way-2017 still claims an EOB day on the 6th ...
14:28 rfrasur If that's possible, I agree with Terran on October rather than November...but it might be a big ask.
14:29 tspindler terran, we really need something in palce before we sign contracts for the 2019 conference so I think we are ok.
14:29 rfrasur My other question is that there were three orgs mentioned as interested in the report, but only two survey responses.
14:29 tspindler Someone can correct me if I'm wrong but I don't think we can leave the SFC before the conference ends because of insurance, etc. also
14:30 rfrasur tspindler, that sounds familiar.
14:30 tspindler rfrasur: C/W MARS withdrew
14:30 rfrasur tspindler...so it says in the next sentence.  My apologies and thank you.
14:30 terran I thought the plan was to do the transition at the conference? Didn't the SFC offer to be there to support any transition work that needed to be done?
14:30 collum They did.
14:30 rfrasur terran, they did.
14:31 tspindler Ok, so I think having a decision before the end of the calendar year is good.  I think the one stumbling block is that if we chose to go with setting up a non-profit, it is extremely unlikely we would have one set up by the conference
14:32 terran I am dubious about that as well
14:32 ScottThomas We would need a plan for the transition from SFC to non-profit. It does take awhile.
14:32 rfrasur Yes
14:33 ScottThomas But no reason not to do it.
14:33 rgagnon Yes, I believe the 501c3 approval would take a while.
14:33 terran Either way, the sooner we are able to make a decision, the better
14:33 rfrasur Though, from my experience, the IRS will provide some interim documentation...
14:33 tspindler I think that is why we would first transition to an existing non-profit and then looking at establishing our own non-profit after that.  It is what Sharon and I were recommending in the report.
14:34 ScottThomas We will also need Bylaws, registered agent, stuff like that,
14:34 rfrasur tspindler++
14:34 terran I like that idea
14:34 collum tspindler++
14:35 ScottThomas Maybe look at having the non-profit in place by the 2019 conference.
14:35 rfrasur So, if we can get info about any costs associated with leaving by October...
14:35 ScottThomas Using an existing non-profit as an interim.
14:35 tspindler rfrasur: yes I think that is doable
14:35 rfrasur We can decide if that would be the appopriate time to vote one way or the other.
14:35 terran +1
14:35 tspindler we will have the cost information before the next EOB meeting
14:36 rfrasur tspindler: thank you and thanks for all the extra work you've been doing (and Sharon as well)
14:36 ScottThomas tspindler++
14:36 rgagnon tspindler++
14:36 tspindler I think its important this question be resolved one way or another this year.  It has been a recurring topic on the EOB.
14:36 terran tspindler++
14:36 rfrasur agreed tspindler
14:36 collum +1
14:37 tspindler #topic Release Manager (Galen Charlton)
14:37 tspindler #link https://evergreen-ils.org/evergreen-3-0​-development-update-15-feature-freeze/
14:37 tspindler gmcharlt, do you have anything to add?
14:37 gmcharlt #info Evergreen 3.0 is proceeding on schedule with general release on 3 October
14:37 gmcharlt #info The second beta release will come out today
14:37 gmcharlt #info Important to emphasize that Evergreen 3.0 now requires OpenSRF 3.0, which has an alpha release today
14:37 gmcharlt that's it unless there are questions for me
14:38 terran We're starting training PINES staff on it next Monday so that they can do more testing and be fully prepared for our January upgrade.
14:38 terran Everyone is very excited.
14:38 tspindler terran++
14:38 tspindler we will be interested how it goes for PINES
14:38 ScottThomas We also hope to upgrade asap. Looking at very early January
14:38 tspindler gmcharlt++
14:38 terran We're doing MLK Jr weekend
14:39 rfrasur I think 3.0 is our December upgrade here in Indiana.
14:39 tspindler Any other questoins for gmcharlt?
14:39 rfrasur Nope, but all the props.  and gmcharlt++
14:39 ScottThomas gmcharlt++
14:40 terran gmcharlt++
14:40 rgagnon gmcharlt++
14:40 collum gmcharlt++
14:40 miker gmcharlt++
14:40 gmcharlt tis a collective effort
14:40 gmcharlt EvergreenTheFolks++
14:40 terran EvergreenTheFolks++ definitely
14:40 rfrasur Yeah, but you have cute cats
14:40 rfrasur It matters
14:41 tspindler #topic 2018 Conference Committee Report
14:41 tspindler Amy is not here but is there anyone on the conference committee who can report anything?
14:41 tspindler I saw the hotel announcement
14:41 collum Yep. Hotel info is on the web.
14:41 terran We nearly have the sponsorship packet ready to send out to start soliciting sponsorships and exhibitors
14:42 collum MOBIUS is working on a logo, and contacting keynote speakers.
14:42 tspindler #info hotel info is up, sponsorship packet is ready and MOBIUS is working on logo and contacting speakers
14:43 terran We should be sending out the call for program ideas soon - maybe next week?
14:43 terran I'm not sure what the schedule is on that, but I know it's soon
14:43 tspindler that all sounds good
14:44 tspindler Anything else?
14:44 collum I can't think of anything else off the top of my head. terran?
14:44 terran Nope
14:44 tspindler #topic Outreach Committee (Kathy Lussier)
14:44 tspindler I just want to say I really like the videos outreach is doing
14:45 kmlussier #info The Outreach Committee has been working on a campaign to promote the upcoming 3.0 release with a series of "On the Road to 3.0" videos. We encourage folks to share them with your libraries to get a look at what's coming with the release.
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14:45 kmlussier We released the latest one today, feature rhamby_ as narrator.
14:45 kmlussier Also, please subscribe to our new Evergreen YouTube channel. We need 100 subscribers to get a custom URL.
14:45 tspindler rhamby_ ++
14:46 terran kmlussier++ rhamby_++
14:46 ScottThomas rhamby++
14:46 rfrasur The videos are great.  Thank you.  rhamby_++ kmlussier++
14:46 terran I haven't watched the second one yet, but the first one was great! Are library staff that watched it immediately asked for more.
14:46 kmlussier #info I had also hoped to have a quote for you to vote today for refreshing the Evergreen logo. The quote we received was very affordable, but I just wanted to clarify a couple of things to make sure we're all on the same page. I should have something for you by the October meeting.
14:46 rgagnon kmlussier++ rhamby_++
14:46 kmlussier That's all I have.
14:47 tspindler kmlussier++
14:47 tspindler Any questions for kmlussier?
14:47 ScottThomas kmlussier++
14:47 rfrasur kmlussier, thank you.  Looking forward to moving on the logo as well.  kmlussier++
14:47 collum kmlussier++
14:48 tspindler #topic Old Business
14:49 tspindler #info there was an action item for me to look at the next months EOB meeting and the hackaway, but it it was resolved by the end of the meeting
14:49 tspindler #topic New Business
14:49 tspindler Any new items anyone wants to raise?
14:50 rfrasur yeah...hold
14:50 rfrasur Are there any responsibilities held by graced that need to be taken on?  Or had they mostly been handed off already?
14:51 rfrasur Or is she remaining active in the community?  (graced...if you're here)
14:51 miker I don't think Grace had any community duties anymore. she handed off her conf committee stuff last spring
14:51 tspindler #info Are there responsibilities that graced had that need to be reassigned?
14:51 tspindler I'm not aware of any myself either.
14:51 miker (she's unavailable ATM)
14:51 rfrasur miker: I was under that impression as well, but wanted to make sure we'd not missed anything.
14:53 tspindler Ok I'm going to say that we don't need to reassign any duties
14:53 tspindler #info no duties need to be reassigned from graced
14:53 tspindler Any other last minute topics?
14:54 miker though, she would likely appreciate the reassignment of any gin you may have to her
14:54 tspindler #info Next meeting will be in IRC on 10/19/17 2PM EST
14:54 rfrasur Thanks all
14:54 tspindler not bourbon?
14:54 rfrasur Hmm, no...definitely gin
14:54 miker aye, gin
14:54 miker assign the bourbon to me :)
14:54 rfrasur and scotch to me
14:55 rfrasur please and thank you
14:55 terran Cider here
14:55 rfrasur tspindler++
14:55 terran Thanks everyone!
14:55 gmcharlt cool, that means I get ALL THE COFFEE!
14:55 rfrasur graced++ thanks for all the all
14:55 tspindler ok can we have a motion to adjourn
14:55 ScottThomas tspindler++
14:55 collum tspindler++
14:55 gmcharlt tspindler++
14:55 terran I so move
14:55 * rfrasur moves to adjourn
14:55 ScottThomas Second
14:55 tspindler #info terran moves to adjourn
14:55 tspindler #endmeeting
14:55 pinesol_green Meeting ended Thu Sep 21 14:55:45 2017 US/Eastern.  Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4)
14:55 pinesol_green Minutes:        http://evergreen-ils.org/meetings/evergr​een/2017/evergreen.2017-09-21-14.01.html
14:55 pinesol_green Minutes (text): http://evergreen-ils.org/meetings/evergr​een/2017/evergreen.2017-09-21-14.01.txt
14:55 pinesol_green Log:            http://evergreen-ils.org/meetings/evergree​n/2017/evergreen.2017-09-21-14.01.log.html
14:55 tspindler Thanks all
14:56 kmlussier tspindler++
14:56 miker tspindler++
14:57 terran tspindler++
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16:32 gmcharlt https://evergreen-ils.org/second-evergree​n-3-0-beta-released-opensrf-3-0-0-alpha/
16:33 gmcharlt dbwells++
16:33 gmcharlt AllYall++
16:41 abneiman gmcharlt++
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17:00 pinesol_green News from qatests: Test Success <http://testing.evergreen-ils.org/~live>
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17:03 csharp seeing some sporadic complaints of network errors and slow response times from catalogers on 2.12/OpenSRF 2.5.2 - anyone else?
17:03 csharp I don't have many specifics
17:03 csharp but circ staff aren't complaining as much (that I'm aware of)
17:05 csharp ah maybe bug 1704396?
17:05 pinesol_green Launchpad bug 1704396 in Evergreen "Slowness for metarecord and one-hit searches in 2.12" [High,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1704396
17:05 mmorgan csharp: We're seeing network errors. Our production system is OpenSRF 2.5.0 Evergreen 2.12.4.
17:05 mmorgan May be related to that bug.
17:07 mmorgan One thing we've noticed is a staff user has a full record on the screen, but no record summary loads in the top pane. Then there's a network error about 70 seconds later.
17:07 * mmorgan just throws that out there and runs away...
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17:19 bwicksall @gmcharlt bug 1714026 does look like a good candidate for my problem.  I started a fresh upgrade so I should know early tomorrow.  I do see duplicate functions in my DB.
17:19 pinesol_green bwicksall: Ba ba ba dook Dook DOOK!
17:20 gmcharlt groovy
17:20 gmcharlt I'll target that bug to the RC so that it stays in mind for the candidate
17:21 bwicksall I'll comment on the bug once I know more
17:21 gmcharlt thanks
17:30 Bmagic I have never setup authorize.net. The library settings require "username" / "password" / "server" - is that API login ID, transaction key?
17:32 csharp Bmagic: it's been a while but I think so
17:33 csharp I think all of our libraries went with Stripe in the end
17:33 csharp bug 1714026
17:33 pinesol_green Launchpad bug 1714026 in Evergreen "Maintain Control Numbers function should be schema-qualified" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1714026
17:34 Bmagic csharp++
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