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pinesol_green |
News from qatests: Test Success <http://testing.evergreen-ils.org/~live> |
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| 07:52 |
Dyrcona |
firefox-- # It totally locks up my system. |
| 07:52 |
Dyrcona |
And, why is my load 10 with less 25% of CPU in use? |
| 07:53 |
Dyrcona |
Maybe I should blame kernel 4.10 instead. |
| 07:53 |
csharp |
maybe 2.12.2a was created to address this, but installation fails because of 3e31b9f33 in 2.12.2 |
| 07:53 |
pinesol_green |
csharp: [evergreen|blake] Bumping version numbers and adding Changelog - <http://git.evergreen-ils.org/?p=Evergreen.git;a=commit;h=3e31b9f> |
| 07:54 |
csharp |
Dyrcona: I use FF on Fedora 25 (4.10.17) and haven't seen that |
| 07:54 |
csharp |
(GNOME) |
| 07:54 |
JBoyer |
I thought 2.12.2a was translation related, but I haven't really paid attention. |
| 07:55 |
Dyrcona |
csharp: I'm on Ubuntu 17.04 with Unity. It happens when watching HTML5 videos on Youtube and it takes a while. |
| 07:55 |
Dyrcona |
It could be a media plug/package, but firefox freezes. |
| 07:55 |
csharp |
Dyrcona: huh - I'll let you know if I see anything similar |
| 07:56 |
Dyrcona |
If I kill it, it isn't long after when everything else freezes. |
| 07:56 |
Dyrcona |
It could just be really high load and I'm impatient, so I hit the power button. |
| 07:56 |
Dyrcona |
I know it's not Flashplayer, 'cause I disabledit. |
| 07:58 |
Dyrcona |
It's probably ffmpeg or something. |
| 08:00 |
Dyrcona |
Guess I'll just shut my laptop off every night. |
| 08:04 |
* csharp |
shrugs at the npm WARN deprecated messages for every package being installed |
| 08:05 |
csharp |
npm WARN optional Skipping failed optional dependency /chokidar/fsevents: |
| 08:05 |
csharp |
npm WARN notsup Not compatible with your operating system or architecture: fsevents 1.1.1 |
| 08:06 |
csharp |
this is on xenial |
| 08:07 |
Dyrcona |
Yeah, you don't need that package on Linux. |
| 08:07 |
csharp |
ok - good |
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kmlussier |
csharp: Did you try 2.12.2a? The change to 002.schema.config.sql does look a little different there. |
| 08:29 |
* Dyrcona |
is working on installing rel_2_12 with customizations. The db upgrade script is running. |
| 08:29 |
* Dyrcona |
is upgrading the db from 2.10.7, fwiw. |
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Dyrcona |
@coin |
| 08:31 |
pinesol_green |
Dyrcona: tails |
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| 08:53 |
Dyrcona |
ha! |
| 08:53 |
Dyrcona |
Write a short email, notice a typo, delete the text, type it again, hit send, notice the same typo... |
| 08:54 |
Dyrcona |
krvmga: s/here/her/ :) |
| 08:55 |
Dyrcona |
Lather. Rinse. Repeat. :) |
| 08:56 |
krvmga |
Dyrcona: :) I had looked in the templates myself and nothing had jumped out at me. |
| 08:56 |
Dyrcona |
krvmga: I blame the email client. The message is sent as plain text. |
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| 10:04 |
eVgEnthusiast |
Does Evergreen have functionality to manage eBooks? |
| 10:07 |
kmlussier |
eVgEnthusiast: What do you mean by 'manage'? |
| 10:09 |
eVgEnthusiast |
Is Evergreen able to add eBooks to the collection and can patrons borrow them? |
| 10:10 |
kmlussier |
Evergreen has the ability to identify which libraries own an ebook based on a subfield in the 856 and can control which results are retrieved based on that information. It has some integration with Overdrive and OneClick Digital, and will soon have the ability to borrow ebooks from the services from the catalog. |
| 10:10 |
kmlussier |
But we don't have our own mechanism for storing and lending ebooks. |
| 10:18 |
eVgEnthusiast |
I see. Thank you for the information, that's exactly what i was looking for. I'm trying to find a way of making some eBooks available to students with infringing copyright |
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Dyrcona |
phasefx++ |
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| 11:00 |
Dyrcona |
berick++ |
| 11:00 |
Dyrcona |
I like the idea of action.all_circulation_slim. |
| 11:01 |
berick |
Dyrcona: cool, yeah, seems like a clear win |
| 11:01 |
Dyrcona |
I'm going to add a comment about the naming, but I don't expect my idea to be popular. :) |
| 11:02 |
berick |
heh |
| 11:04 |
Dyrcona |
Well, maybe I won't comment. |
| 11:04 |
Dyrcona |
I was going to suggest moving the exiting view to the reporter schema, but after looking at the schema itself again, I see that is a worse idea than I originally thought. :) |
| 11:05 |
berick |
i also thought about repurposing all_circulation, but yeah that would get complicated |
| 11:05 |
berick |
and break reports and stuff |
| 11:06 |
Dyrcona |
Yeah. |
| 11:10 |
Dyrcona |
Well, I commented anyway. |
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| 11:17 |
bshum |
microsoft-- |
| 11:24 |
dbs |
Dyrcona: fwiw Chrome is currently running two processes at 80%+ (each) and I have a total of 3 tabs open, no media playing, nothing fancy in the tabs (email and files) |
| 11:25 |
dbs |
bshum: ? |
| 11:26 |
bshum |
dbs: Just hating on Microsoft for wacky updates |
| 11:26 |
bshum |
Not connected to anything in particular, other than my laptop being unhappy |
| 11:26 |
bshum |
And me being unhappy |
| 11:26 |
bshum |
And me thinking about reformatting this thing to something better (again) :D |
| 11:27 |
dbs |
bshum: ah. I had some severe hate for them a few weeks back when the latest Win10 update added a new boot partition and severely screwed up grub2-efi booting |
| 11:29 |
dbs |
but more hate directed at Lenovo for a bios update that made my 1TB SSD look like it was only 110GB (also screwing up booting severely) |
| 11:29 |
Dyrcona |
dbs: I have 16 Chromium processes running most at 0% total at less than 1.0% with 9 tabs open and no media playing. |
| 11:29 |
dbs |
maybe browsers-- |
| 11:31 |
Dyrcona |
:) |
| 11:34 |
dbs |
oh hey one process is still running at 100% with 0 tabs open. hmm |
| 11:36 |
Dyrcona |
I think Chrome/Chromium keeps a process around for quick restart later, but could be wrong. |
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| 11:44 |
bshum |
dbs: I got that SSD firmware update from Lenovo too, and you made me briefly panic that my SSD looked too small :) |
| 11:50 |
kaffenkj |
Lurking-- |
| 11:50 |
kaffenkj |
In the Receipt Template Editor for billing templates, is there a macro that prints the sum total of all the fines a patron owes? Seems like I can only get individual charges. |
| 11:53 |
bshum |
kaffenkj: I'm pretty sure there's an option for total |
| 11:53 |
bshum |
Like %total_owed% maybe, hmm |
| 11:55 |
kaffenkj |
Near as I can tell, %total_owed% and %balance_owed% echo the same thing, which appears to be the last billing amount in the list. |
| 11:55 |
bshum |
https://bugs.launchpad.net/evergreen/+bug/821640 -- there might be more macros |
| 11:55 |
pinesol_green |
Launchpad bug 821640 in Evergreen master "Define a macro for grand total of all bills listed" [Undecided,Fix released] |
| 11:56 |
bshum |
grand_total_owed ? |
| 11:57 |
bshum |
Yeah that patch in that bug added three new macros: grand_total_owed, grand_total_billed, grand_total_paid |
| 11:58 |
mmorgan |
Just tested, bshum is correct, %grand_total_owed% print the total outstanding for the patron |
| 11:58 |
mmorgan |
er, prints |
| 12:00 |
bshum |
mmorgan++ # thanks for checking out my theory |
| 12:01 |
* bshum |
misses having a real Evergreen server at his fingertips |
| 12:01 |
bshum |
Well, kinda misses. :) |
| 12:01 |
csharp |
@blame ALL THE PROBLEMS |
| 12:01 |
pinesol_green |
csharp: I come to bury ALL THE PROBLEMS, not to praise them. |
| 12:01 |
mmorgan |
bshum++ # thanks for the theory! |
| 12:02 |
kaffenkj |
bshum++ mmorgan++ |
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| 12:04 |
kaffenkj |
I'm a local admin for an individual library. I presume the patch from https://bugs.launchpad.net/evergreen/+bug/821640 is something I would need our wise and benevolent SysAdmins to implement? |
| 12:04 |
pinesol_green |
Launchpad bug 821640 in Evergreen master "Define a macro for grand total of all bills listed" [Undecided,Fix released] |
| 12:05 |
jeff |
kaffenkj: the "Fix released" status on the bug indicates that it's been released in a version of Evergreen. |
| 12:05 |
jeff |
kaffenkj: looking at the "Milestone" column, it looks likt it should be available in Evergreen 2.2 and higher. |
| 12:06 |
jeff |
Tina's comment on the bug from 2014 is probably worthy of consideration as a followup, though -- to document the three new macros in staff interfaces (and ideally documentation, if they're missing there also) |
| 12:07 |
kaffenkj |
Ah - we're on 2.11.something. That explains it. |
| 12:07 |
jeff |
kaffenkj: you should have those three macros available, then. |
| 12:08 |
kaffenkj |
Right - 2.11 > 2.2. Hmm. |
| 12:09 |
bshum |
jeff: Yeah, I didn't see anything in the docs about it. So definitely could use a followup I guess. |
| 12:15 |
kaffenkj |
jeff: %grand_total_owed% works perfectly! I was getting tripped up by the preview displaying the macro name instead of a dollar total. |
| 12:15 |
kaffenkj |
Thanks again! |
| 12:19 |
jeff |
bshum++ mmorgan++ |
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| 13:01 |
gmcharlt |
berick: action.one_big_ball_of_circs? |
| 13:02 |
berick |
gmcharlt: yes! |
| 13:02 |
berick |
the morning sun is shining like one big.. ball of circs |
| 13:02 |
gmcharlt |
@quote add <berick> the morning sun is shining like one big.. ball of circs |
| 13:02 |
pinesol_green |
gmcharlt: The operation succeeded. Quote #167 added. |
| 13:03 |
* mmorgan |
reaches for circglasses |
| 13:03 |
gmcharlt |
mmorgan++ |
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Dyrcona |
heh |
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| 15:03 |
JBoyer |
Is there a preference for <select ...> over <button ... uib-dropdown-toggle> in the web client? They're very different and the select seems to be easier to use. |
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| 15:10 |
JBoyer |
I'm asking because when looking at bug 1642035 it was suggested to change the uib-dropdown style to a select which worked fine, but I'm not sure I follow the reason just yet. |
| 15:10 |
pinesol_green |
Launchpad bug 1642035 in Evergreen "Web Staff Client - Problems saving notification preferences" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1642035 - Assigned to Cesar V (cesardv) |
| 15:15 |
JBoyer |
Given that a select looks very similar but doesn't cause the size and scroll position of the <body> to bungie around I certainly prefer them. |
| 15:17 |
cesardv |
@JBoyer I'd been meaning to tackle that bug, I hadn't had the chance yet... thanks for picking it up. Changing it to a select is def what I would have done... |
| 15:17 |
pinesol_green |
cesardv: I eat more coconut cream pie before breakfast than most people eat all day |
| 15:18 |
cesardv |
ha |
| 15:18 |
Dyrcona |
The bot thinks @ at the beginning of a word at the beginning of a line is a command to execute. |
| 15:19 |
JBoyer |
cesardv, I'm glad I didn't waste any of your effort, I never think to check if there's an assigned-to set. :D |
| 15:19 |
Dyrcona |
@coin |
| 15:19 |
pinesol_green |
Dyrcona: tails |
| 15:19 |
cesardv |
JBoyer: I'm pretty new around here, so I def don't know the reasoning behind the custom ul thing |
| 15:20 |
Dyrcona |
@dunno |
| 15:20 |
pinesol_green |
Dyrcona: Thank you Dyrcona! But our princess is in another castle! |
| 15:21 |
JBoyer |
I don't think it's entirely custom, I think a lot of the uib-* stuff is from bootstrap, seems a lot of template work is necessary to use it though. |
| 15:21 |
cesardv |
Dyrcona: >< yeah I noticed... hadn't used IRC before... as far back as I go is ICQ chat... idk if that what the same |
| 15:21 |
cesardv |
s/what/was |
| 15:22 |
Dyrcona |
S'OK. It happens a lot...Twitter. |
| 15:22 |
Dyrcona |
:) |
| 15:23 |
abneiman |
pinging gmcharlt as it was his suggestion to move from uib to select |
| 15:23 |
Dyrcona |
The bot runs dunno if you give it a command name it doesn't understand. |
| 15:23 |
Dyrcona |
@unknown |
| 15:23 |
pinesol_green |
Dyrcona: Thank you Dyrcona! But our princess is in another castle! |
| 15:23 |
Dyrcona |
@coin |
| 15:23 |
pinesol_green |
Dyrcona: tails |
| 15:23 |
Dyrcona |
Uh-oh. I think I'm dead, too. :) |
| 15:24 |
gmcharlt |
JBoyer: FWIW, I prefer uib-dropdown for things that are menu and menu-like things |
| 15:24 |
gmcharlt |
and use selects for inputs |
| 15:24 |
cesardv |
this bot def thinks I really like pie for some reason :) |
| 15:25 |
Dyrcona |
I think it was programmed by Tom Stoppard. :) |
| 15:25 |
kmlussier |
@dessert cesardv |
| 15:25 |
* pinesol_green |
grabs some of yboston's cheese flan for cesardv |
| 15:25 |
kmlussier |
There. Something other than pie. :) |
| 15:26 |
JBoyer |
gmcharlt, that makes some sense. I was wondering about switching over the stat cat stuff though, because if you have a lot (we have one with 200+ entries, for instance) it really messes with the page scroll position. |
| 15:26 |
* kmlussier |
wonders if she'll every get to try yboston's cheese flan. |
| 15:26 |
yboston |
kmlussier: we need to set something up |
| 15:26 |
gmcharlt |
JBoyer: indeed |
| 15:26 |
kmlussier |
JBoyer: If you're thinking of switching over stat cat stuff, there's a bug you should look at. |
| 15:26 |
cesardv |
kmlussier: yay variety |
| 15:26 |
gmcharlt |
(and with that many, a typeahead should be considered as well) |
| 15:26 |
JBoyer |
kmlussier, that bug is why I'm looking at it. ;) |
| 15:27 |
JBoyer |
(probably) |
| 15:27 |
kmlussier |
I'm trying to find it. Is it the same one? |
| 15:27 |
kmlussier |
bug 1618982 |
| 15:27 |
pinesol_green |
Launchpad bug 1618982 in Evergreen "webclient: editable dropdown menu for stat cat entries that allow free text" [Wishlist,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1618982 |
| 15:27 |
yboston |
kmlussier: maybe we can plan for a time you will be in the Boston/Cambridge area so I can give it to you |
| 15:28 |
Dyrcona |
@coin |
| 15:28 |
pinesol_green |
Dyrcona: tails |
| 15:28 |
kmlussier |
yboston: Yeah, I need to make it up there more often. |
| 15:28 |
JBoyer |
kmlussier, ooh, no, I didn't know about that one. I was going to look at working on bug 1686459 |
| 15:28 |
pinesol_green |
Launchpad bug 1686459 in Evergreen "Webstaff: Copy editor does not require values for required stat cats" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1686459 |
| 15:28 |
JBoyer |
(And the followup I just filed re: actor stat cats that don't allow free text) |
| 15:29 |
yboston |
kmlussier: think about a date/time and I will be ready |
| 15:29 |
JBoyer |
I would also like a "real" combobox type of control for them, if it doesn't have a half-mile long selection list. |
| 15:32 |
Dyrcona |
comboboxes are tricky on the web, 'cause standard JavaScript doesn't implement them. |
| 15:32 |
Dyrcona |
and HTML doesn't define them |
| 15:35 |
JBoyer |
I figured it would be some kind of chimera control (they technically are in Windows, at least the older style) but if there's already a bootstrap version ready to use (or our eg-basic-combo-box control) I'm ok with trying them out. |
| 15:46 |
bshum |
@coin |
| 15:46 |
pinesol_green |
bshum: tails |
| 15:47 |
bshum |
@roll 1d20 |
| 15:47 |
pinesol_green |
bshum: Down time is a fact of business when you're a poor 501c3 corporation. |
| 15:47 |
bshum |
Aww |
| 15:47 |
bshum |
@dice 1d20 |
| 15:47 |
pinesol_green |
bshum: 2 |
| 15:47 |
bshum |
Wow, swing and a miss |
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| 15:47 |
Dyrcona |
@coin |
| 15:48 |
pinesol_green |
Dyrcona: tails |
| 15:48 |
Dyrcona |
It only returns tails. |
| 15:48 |
kmlussier |
@coin |
| 15:48 |
pinesol_green |
kmlussier: heads |
| 15:48 |
kmlussier |
Ha! |
| 15:48 |
Dyrcona |
All I get is tails. |
| 15:48 |
Dyrcona |
@coin |
| 15:48 |
pinesol_green |
Dyrcona: tails |
| 15:48 |
Dyrcona |
:) |
| 15:48 |
Dyrcona |
@librarian |
| 15:48 |
pinesol_green |
Dyrcona: Management:14, Cataloging:14, Acquisitions:15, Reference:14, Circulation:17, Systems:12, Research:9, Custodial:11 |
| 15:48 |
kaffenkj |
bshum: What's the THAC0 of your average bug? 2 might be enough. ;) |
| 15:49 |
Dyrcona |
@dnd |
| 15:49 |
pinesol_green |
Dyrcona: strength:17 dexterity:15 constitution:12 intelligence:14 wisdom:7 charisma:12 |
| 15:49 |
bshum |
Hahaha, kaffenkj++ # loving it |
| 15:52 |
Dyrcona |
So, I see references to eg-basic-combo-box in the code but not where it is defined. Does that get pulled in by Node/npm, etc? |
| 15:53 |
berick |
Dyrcona: in the JS it would be egBasicComboBox |
| 15:53 |
Dyrcona |
Ah, right.... |
| 15:53 |
Dyrcona |
duh. |
| 15:54 |
kmlussier |
@sortinghat |
| 15:54 |
pinesol_green |
Hmm... kmlussier... Let me see now... HUFFLEPUFF! |
| 15:54 |
kmlussier |
Boo! |
| 15:54 |
bshum |
No Slytherin for you kmlussier! |
| 15:54 |
kmlussier |
:( |
| 15:55 |
Dyrcona |
@coin |
| 15:55 |
pinesol_green |
Dyrcona: tails |
| 15:55 |
kmlussier |
heh |
| 15:55 |
berick |
@tea [sortinghat] |
| 15:55 |
bshum |
Hahaha |
| 15:55 |
* pinesol_green |
brews and pours a pot of Masala Chai, and sends it sliding down the bar to Hmm... berick... Let me see now... RAVENCLAW! (http://ratetea.com/tea/rishi/masala-chai/4495/) |
| 15:57 |
Dyrcona |
@swill [librarian] |
| 15:57 |
* pinesol_green |
grabs a bottle of Smirnoff Ice Watermelon and sends it sliding down the bar to Management:12, Cataloging:11, Acquisitions:16, Reference:11, Circulation:16, Systems:17, Research:10, Custodial:10 |
| 15:58 |
berick |
@ana Smirnoff Ice Watermelon |
| 15:58 |
pinesol_green |
berick: Sorry, we can't do that because, you know, SOFTWARE. |
| 15:58 |
bshum |
Haha |
| 15:58 |
berick |
oddly appropriate, pinesol_green |
| 15:58 |
bshum |
I thought I enabled that one |
| 15:58 |
* kaffenkj |
wishes we could do away with resumes and look at character stat sheets when evaluating new hires |
| 15:58 |
bshum |
Guess not |
| 15:59 |
bshum |
@ana This is a test |
| 15:59 |
pinesol_green |
bshum: Its hastiest |
| 15:59 |
berick |
bshum++ |
| 15:59 |
berick |
@ana Smirnoff Ice Watermelon |
| 15:59 |
pinesol_green |
berick: Offences mail worriment |
| 16:00 |
csharp |
@ana [quote random] |
| 16:00 |
pinesol_green |
csharp: So tremulous quickie |
| 16:01 |
Dyrcona |
@quote randome |
| 16:01 |
pinesol_green |
Dyrcona: http://xkcd.com/1739/ |
| 16:01 |
Dyrcona |
@quote |
| 16:01 |
pinesol_green |
Dyrcona: We're going to need a bigger boat. |
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pinesol_green |
News from qatests: Test Success <http://testing.evergreen-ils.org/~live> |
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jeff |
3 |
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