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pinesol_green |
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* Dyrcona |
goes down a rt.cpan.org rabbit hole. ;) |
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* tsbere |
comes back inside from the fire alarm going off at the office |
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* Guest62103 |
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Guest62103 |
speaking of names... |
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| 09:19 |
JBoyer |
So, if anyone has time (especially if you're considering a 2.11 upgrade soon, hint, hint, csharp) I'd appreciate more eyes on lp 1654567 |
| 09:19 |
pinesol_green |
Launchpad bug 1654567 in Evergreen "Replacing barcode creates duplicate copy" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1654567 |
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Dyrcona |
That rabbit hole wasn't so deep, just 4 related tickets... |
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Dyrcona |
tsbere: The alarm went off at my daughter's school yesterday afternoon, too. No explanation other than it might have been a malfunction and they'll have the company out to inspect it today. |
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Dyrcona |
JBoyer | agoben: Nice catch! |
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tsbere |
Dyrcona: We don't have an explanation. It went off, and half the people in offices *ignored* it from what I could see. |
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Dyrcona |
Heh. Sounds about right. :) |
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| 09:42 |
mmorgan |
JBoyer: I'm currently banging on a 2.11 system and can't reproduce that bug. |
| 09:43 |
mmorgan |
Tried using replace barcode from item status and also from the edit menu. The barcode was replaced as expected. |
| 09:43 |
JBoyer |
Here it's only happening from the menu. |
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agoben |
Use the Circulation menu entry |
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mmorgan |
Ah, ok. I'll try the circ menu |
| 09:44 |
agoben |
Or, rather, please try it from the Circ menu ;) |
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agoben |
Sorry, hectic morning |
| 09:46 |
mmorgan |
Still working as expected for me from the circulation menu. So you |
| 09:47 |
mmorgan |
're ending up with 2 items, one with the old barcode and one with the new? |
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agoben |
Yes |
| 09:47 |
agoben |
Identical except for the circ history |
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* csharp |
looks |
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agoben |
well and all the other things tied to the item ID :) |
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| 09:51 |
JBoyer |
I can't decide if it's a good thing or a bad one that it isn't reproducible. :/ |
| 09:51 |
csharp |
works on our 2.11.1 test server as far as I can tell |
| 09:51 |
csharp |
usually feels worse when it's not reproducible in other places :-/ |
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* JBoyer |
is leaning that way |
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* mmorgan |
just checked the asset.copy table and confirmed that it's not happening on our 2.11.1 system. |
| 09:52 |
JBoyer |
I suppose that means I should stop looking at git.evergreen-ils.org and start looking more closely at our local branch. |
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tsbere |
Hmmm |
| 09:53 |
csharp |
yeah, I can confirm that replacing the barcode from the Circulation menu overwrote the existing barcode and there's just one copy |
| 09:53 |
tsbere |
JBoyer: Could serials be involved? I could see there being a bug with serial.unit vs asset.copy entries. |
| 09:55 |
JBoyer |
tsbere, we're not using serials yet and all of these copy copies exist in acp. |
| 09:55 |
JBoyer |
Good thought though. |
| 09:55 |
tsbere |
JBoyer: I only mentioned it because serial.unit entries *look* like they are in acp but also aren't. |
| 09:56 |
Dyrcona |
serial.unit inherits from asset.copy doesn't it? |
| 09:56 |
Dyrcona |
yeah, it does. |
| 09:57 |
JBoyer |
Oh, yeah. Tried again with select * from only asset.copy and they're all still there. Select * from serial.unit is 0 rows. |
| 09:58 |
tsbere |
JBoyer: Well, that was my guess for a possible reason it wasn't being reproduced elsewhere. |
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* tsbere |
goes back to poking at a couple of bibs |
| 10:15 |
bshum |
There's a bug for that too, serial.unit I mean |
| 10:15 |
bshum |
JBoyer: Have you done anything new with org units lately? |
| 10:15 |
bshum |
When was the last autogen you ran I mean |
| 10:16 |
bshum |
Sometimes things like those interfaces go wonky post-upgrade if you don't do an autogen to refresh stuff if things move in any way. |
| 10:16 |
bshum |
I think it happened to us once like that with replace barcode specifically |
| 10:16 |
bshum |
Which is the only reason I bring it up |
| 10:17 |
bshum |
And I was panicking for a few hours about what I did wrong during an upgrade |
| 10:17 |
bshum |
Course my swiss cheese mind might just be mixing up cause and effects. |
| 10:17 |
bshum |
It's Friday, right? *big sigh* |
| 10:19 |
JBoyer |
We changed the names of a few, but that's it. I can run it now just to see if that makes a difference. |
| 10:19 |
bshum |
http://irc.evergreen-ils.org/evergreen/2014-11-14 <-- wacky memory |
| 10:20 |
bshum |
It happened once in 2014 where doing an autogen fixed my replace barcode problem :) |
| 10:20 |
bshum |
So I didn't just imagine it |
| 10:20 |
bshum |
I have no clue how I remembered that, but uh okay then! |
| 10:23 |
bshum |
"The names have been changed to protect the innnocent" |
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| 10:30 |
JBoyer |
Mystery over, bshum was right. I have NO IDEA why that would matter given the calls made and so on, but it's fixed, so I don't care anymore. Thanks |
| 10:30 |
JBoyer |
bshum++ |
| 10:31 |
Bmagic |
yes, I agree with bshum, this sounded so familiar, replacing barcode causes duplicate copies. This happened to us.... and YES! It was autogen I remember |
| 10:32 |
mmorgan |
bshum++ |
| 10:33 |
bshum |
Bmagic: Yeah I found two log entries in IRC actually. Once in 2014 and once in 2015 where it happened both times to me and then to you :) |
| 10:33 |
Bmagic |
haha! |
| 10:34 |
bshum |
JBoyer++ # happy to have one less mystery :) |
| 10:34 |
Bmagic |
bshum: good memory! bshum++ |
| 10:34 |
bshum |
That's me, Ghost of Evergreen Past. |
| 10:34 |
mmorgan |
So does anyone use a cron job to run autogen periodically? |
| 10:35 |
Bmagic |
bshum: lol |
| 10:35 |
Bmagic |
mmorgan: we do not |
| 10:35 |
mmorgan |
any harm in doing that? |
| 10:35 |
bshum |
I don't see any reason to do it periodically. |
| 10:35 |
bshum |
it should only matter if you touch the org units . Or apparently post-upgrades :) |
| 10:35 |
Bmagic |
changing the org unit structure is about the only reason we run it |
| 10:36 |
Bmagic |
we learned the hard way that we cannot edit the org unit tree during business hours |
| 10:36 |
bshum |
Ugh... painful sounding :) |
| 10:37 |
Bmagic |
click save.... ring ring, hello? "Yes, our staff client is throwing errors".... |
| 10:37 |
bshum |
Anyone else remember "bootstrapping" web interface for org unit editing in 1.4 and so on? :) Seeing the in-client editor for the first time was like, whoa mind blown :D |
| 10:37 |
JBoyer |
This is definitely something I'll be keeping in mind when we change all of the shortnames in a month or so... |
| 10:37 |
bshum |
Dojo, haha...... |
| 10:37 |
Dyrcona |
JBoyer: You changed the names of some org_units and it caused the duplication? |
| 10:38 |
* Dyrcona |
has to run autogen.sh.... :) |
| 10:38 |
JBoyer |
Apparently. |
| 10:38 |
Dyrcona |
We just changed an org_unit name this morning... |
| 10:38 |
mmorgan |
just a thought. Seems like many hours can be consumed tracking down issues that get fixed by running autogen. |
| 10:38 |
JBoyer |
Like I said, I can't fathom it by walking through the code but I ran it and retried and it was fine. |
| 10:38 |
Bmagic |
hurry, run autogen before anyone opens the staff client and downloads stale org_tree.js files |
| 10:38 |
bshum |
Haha |
| 10:40 |
Bmagic |
mmorgan: exactly! I have dumped many hours to it. Then ran autogen and almost caused injury to my forehead |
| 10:41 |
miker |
mmorgan: re cron'ing autogen, yes, nightly IIRC |
| 10:43 |
mmorgan |
Nightly makes sense to me in a "can't hurt might help" sort of way. |
| 10:43 |
mmorgan |
... and forhead injury should be avoided at all costs ;-) |
| 10:45 |
bshum |
@dunno get 4 |
| 10:45 |
pinesol_green |
bshum: Dunno #4: "Try restarting apache." (added by csharp at 02:44 PM, July 02, 2012) |
| 10:46 |
Dyrcona |
Speaking of Apache... Is an apache reload necessary after autogen or is that just superstition on my part? |
| 10:46 |
* bshum |
always bounces apache after every autogen |
| 10:46 |
bshum |
Which is why I brought it up |
| 10:47 |
miker |
Dyrcona: strictly speaking, should not be necessary, and we don't. autogen de-populates memcache of objects it creates, IIRC |
| 10:48 |
Dyrcona |
miker: Thanks. I recall tsbere telling me something like that a year or two ago, and I don't always restart apache after running autogen, but often do on my dev vms at least. |
| 10:48 |
Dyrcona |
Sometimes, that's because I just restarted services before doing the autogen, maybe. ;) |
| 10:48 |
_bott_ |
tsbere: You may find this useful, re Net::HTTP http://pastebin.com/raw/HpMzeRK1 |
| 10:50 |
_bott_ |
That's the result of a few lines of Perl, testing read_response_headers() |
| 10:52 |
* csharp |
doesn't usually restart apache after autogen runs |
| 10:54 |
Dyrcona |
cssh++ |
| 10:55 |
Dyrcona |
bshum++ # For recommending cssh |
| 10:55 |
* csharp |
googles cssh |
| 10:55 |
bshum |
I miss using Linux in my day to day. |
| 10:55 |
Dyrcona |
_bott_: Thanks. It's actually me that'll look into it. :) |
| 10:55 |
csharp |
ah - gotcha |
| 10:56 |
csharp |
KDE's terminal (at least used to in the early 4.X days) had that feature baked in |
| 10:57 |
csharp |
wait - well not the cluster definitions, being able to send commands to all tabs in a window |
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| 11:07 |
_bott_ |
Heh, sorry, grabbed the wrong username! |
| 11:07 |
Dyrcona |
NP. |
| 11:07 |
Dyrcona |
P=NP. :) |
| 11:07 |
_bott_ |
<groan> |
| 11:08 |
_bott_ |
NB |
| 11:08 |
_bott_ |
Net::HTTP::NB, that is |
| 11:08 |
Dyrcona |
:) |
| 11:09 |
Dyrcona |
Any time I type "NP" for "No Problem," I think of P=NP, so.... |
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Dyrcona |
I'm not so sure that bug 1654567 should be invalid. |
| 11:29 |
pinesol_green |
Launchpad bug 1654567 in Evergreen "Replacing barcode creates duplicate copy" [Undecided,Invalid] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1654567 |
| 11:29 |
Dyrcona |
Yes, running autogen is necessary, but should we consider it OK that not running it leads to behavior like that? |
| 11:31 |
Dyrcona |
I'm on the fence and asking someone to push me off, one way or the other. :) |
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* bshum |
pushes Dyrcona in the "there are other bugs in the sea" direction |
| 11:33 |
bshum |
:) |
| 11:33 |
bshum |
Following closely with the "what's for lunch?" direction |
| 11:33 |
bshum |
And the "TGIF" direction |
| 11:33 |
Dyrcona |
:) |
| 11:33 |
bshum |
And the "It's 5 o'clock somewhere" direction |
| 11:34 |
Dyrcona |
It's beer o'clock somewhere.... ;) |
| 11:34 |
* Dyrcona |
is bummed that they stopped making Emotional Rescue Ale. |
| 11:35 |
Dyrcona |
I'll have to get something else with my pizza tonight. |
| 11:41 |
* kmlussier |
just noticed that her LP karma is currently at 666. |
| 11:41 |
* mmorgan |
doesn't push Dyrcona in either direction, but hates to see those many hours wasted by neglecting autogen. Also wonders how many new users get discouraged when things don't work because autogen needs to be run. |
| 11:41 |
Dyrcona |
Spooky. :) |
| 11:41 |
bshum |
DUN, DUN, DUN!! |
| 11:42 |
bshum |
Now remember, use your powers for good, not evil. |
| 11:42 |
kmlussier |
By definition, I think 666 implies evil. |
| 11:43 |
kmlussier |
But I'm about to comment on a LP bug, so I expect the number will change soon. |
| 11:43 |
bshum |
Onwards and upwards! |
| 11:44 |
bshum |
Till up from the ashes grow the roses of success! |
| 11:53 |
JBoyer |
Dyrcona, there has been some mention here and there about doing away with the need for autogen; I'd rather see that as it's own goal than using this bug as a starting point to remove it. Either it hasn't been bugged yet or LP is just being LP, though. |
| 11:54 |
Dyrcona |
JBoyer: Sounds good to me. :) |
| 11:54 |
* Dyrcona |
falls off the fence. |
| 11:54 |
kmlussier |
Dyrcona: I hope you didn't hurt yourself. |
| 11:54 |
bshum |
All the king's horses, and all the king's men... |
| 11:55 |
Dyrcona |
heh. |
| 11:56 |
JBoyer |
That could be updated for dev work. "And all the kings horses and all the kings men couldn't get Humpty to give a single damn about bug 1234 again." |
| 11:56 |
pinesol_green |
Launchpad bug 1234 in Launchpad itself "Gina is an unmaintainable mess of command line options, environment variables and shell scripts" [Medium,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1234 - Assigned to Daniel Henrique Debonzi (debonzi) |
| 11:56 |
JBoyer |
Hah, hadn't thought about that. :D Also, I'm really curious how that gets fixed... |
| 11:57 |
bshum |
https://launchpad.net/gina -- funny :) |
| 11:57 |
bshum |
XMPP bot, hilarious |
| 11:57 |
JBoyer |
Apparently without comment given that bug page. o.O |
| 11:59 |
Dyrcona |
I wonder if gina could be used to automate stuff in Evergreen by injecting commands into ejabberd? |
| 12:00 |
Dyrcona |
heh. Fire up a Jabber client, tell gina to do something. It happens. :) |
| 12:00 |
Dyrcona |
gina: run autogen.sh on brick heads. |
| 12:03 |
Dyrcona |
Well, that's not so realistic... |
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bmills |
anyone in evergreen land gone full https? anything stopped you? mixed content, caching/speed? |
| 12:43 |
kmlussier |
bmills: Have you seen bug 507013? |
| 12:44 |
kmlussier |
https://bugs.launchpad.net/evergreen/+bug/1507013 |
| 12:44 |
pinesol_green |
Launchpad bug 1507013 in Evergreen "Forcing HTTPS breaks some functionality in staff client" [Undecided,New] |
| 12:44 |
kmlussier |
Oh, got the bug number wrong on the first try. |
| 12:45 |
bmills |
kmlussier having a peek at that now. thanks! |
| 13:18 |
Dyrcona |
I just noticed that the README for Evergreen master says the minimum supported version of Postgres is 9.1. |
| 13:18 |
Dyrcona |
I thought we were going to change that. |
| 13:21 |
bshum |
Yeah it was announced to be PG 9.3 minimum in an email. But the docs didn't get updated. |
| 13:24 |
kmlussier |
Time to update the README? :) |
| 13:24 |
bshum |
Given that 9.1 end of life last September, yeah probably |
| 13:29 |
bshum |
http://georgialibraries.markmail.org/thread/fkbp4xantwfcijba |
| 14:01 |
kmlussier |
Last chance to add your availability to http://doodle.com/poll/esxgzfum2cwkbv7v before I set a meeting date for next week! |
| 14:09 |
kmlussier |
Darn! Looks like Friday the 13th is out. |
| 14:10 |
* jeff |
clicks a bunch |
| 14:10 |
* jeff |
breaks doodle |
| 14:11 |
* berick |
sets up a doodle poll for a Friday 13 IRC seance |
| 14:12 |
berick |
requesting volunteers for a medium |
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* kmlussier |
volunteers. |
| 14:12 |
kmlussier |
Since I'm the one with the 666 karma rating in LP, it seems appropriate. |
| 14:12 |
berick |
kmlussier++ |
| 14:13 |
berick |
"I'm sensing... you have a lot of bugs you want to work on right now" |
| 14:13 |
Dyrcona |
heh |
| 14:14 |
jeff |
i see some shady characters in your future... wait, no. malformed characters -- not shady. |
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* jeff |
makes a weak rdacarrier / medium joke |
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berick |
the spirits all recoil in horror at MARC |
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kmlussier |
Looks like it will be 1 p.m. Eastern on Tuesday the 10th. I'll add it to the calendar and send out an e-mail. |
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kmlussier |
gmcharlt / miker: If you're around, I was thinking of testing/merging the recent web client code in the collab branch either today or first thing Monday. Is there current activity happening there that would make it a bad idea for me to do so? |
| 15:27 |
gmcharlt |
kmlussier: no, the branch should be in a stable enough state |
| 15:27 |
kmlussier |
gmcharlt: Great, thanks! |
| 15:28 |
* kmlussier |
also noticed that we're just a month away from feature slush. Yikes! |
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pinesol_green |
News from qatests: Test Success <http://testing.evergreen-ils.org/~live> |
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