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07:42 phasefx bshum: one of the guys behind that Arabic push says CSS would do the trick for RTL; dunno know about automagic though
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09:50 bshum phasefx: Something to play more with for sure, in the coming days ahead
09:50 bshum Good to know though, thanks!
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11:35 phasefx https://www.humblebundle.c​om/books/unix-book-bundle
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11:38 Dyrcona So, tempting, even though I already have some of those in dead tree format.
11:38 phasefx same here
11:39 phasefx Dyrcona: get work to buy it? :)
11:39 Dyrcona I may buy it, anyway. ;)
11:40 phasefx :D
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12:39 jeff well that's just a little weird. circulation of an item (that appears to have been checked in via backdate in the staff client just prior) where the stop_fines_time = xact_start and renewal_remaining is 0 (which contradicts duration_rule).
12:39 jeff circulation is not a renewal and has no parent_circ.
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12:40 jeff oh.
12:40 mmorgan jeff: claimed never checked out?
12:41 jeff mark missing pieces.
12:41 jeff the item was then manually edited to make its status Available.
12:41 jeff disclaimer: our mark missing pieces behavior may differ from stock still.
12:42 jeff but the "manually edited to set status to Available" is the weird part here.
12:42 mmorgan jeff: what status do missing pieces items get?
12:43 jeff we have circ.missing_pieces.copy_status org unit setting set to a local status of 116, "Missing Pieces Shelf"
12:44 jeff i forget without looking what the default is when that is unset.
12:45 * mmorgan forgets, too. We use "Damaged"
13:22 Bmagic I might have just noticed something. A report template filtered on a boolean "in list". When constructing the report, it gives you the dropdown for either true or false. No matter which one you choose and click "add" you will get "True". Same for anyone else?
13:24 csharp I usually hard-code booleans, so I haven't seen that before - also wondering about what's behind putting a boolean in a list
13:25 csharp seems like you'd get into a schroedinger's cat situation real quick like
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13:36 Bmagic csharp: it looks like the choice that you make "false" is respected in the report query but the UI shows "True" when you choose "False" from the dropdown
13:52 csharp Bmagic: I can confirm the behavior, but I would expect it's a rare use case to put a boolean value in a list - my answer is "don't do that!" :-)
14:03 Bmagic I used it for a "one template for all" to include or exclude deleted copies or include both deleted and non-deleted
14:06 csharp ah - I see
14:06 csharp well, I would use "Equals" rather than "In list"
14:07 csharp wait - I misread
14:07 Bmagic but then you have to choose one or the other and you can't get both (at least in one report)
14:07 csharp gotcha
14:07 Bmagic minor bug to be sure
14:07 Bmagic but wierd
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14:11 csharp since the "deleted is true" can be a mind-boggler for end users, I tend to train template-builders to hard-code "deleted = true" into their templates since it encompasses 95% of reports use cases in PINES
14:16 phasefx deleted = false you mean? :)
14:23 rhamby yeah, I've found(small sampling size of one person) that most reports need deleted = false
14:23 csharp phasefx: ugh - yes!  see what I mean?
14:24 csharp well, my sample is PINES, so I'm pretty confident in my approach (once I get the boolean logic right in my head :-) )
14:24 phasefx csharp: might be useful to provide a view for items and users that hardcodes deleted = false
14:24 phasefx and build reports against those
14:24 csharp actually, that's a great idea
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14:45 Bmagic when it comes to overdue items related to billing, we might need to include deleted items, which is the senario here
15:01 csharp for a report like that, I might *not* filter on deleted but possibly display it
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