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05:00 pinesol_green News from qatests: Test Success <http://testing.evergreen-ils.org/~live>
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08:36 kmlussier Good morning #evergreen!
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08:50 JBoyer Good morning kmlussier!
08:52 mmorgan Good morning!
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09:07 csharp @praise [someone]
09:07 * pinesol_green gmcharlt is kind and patient to newbies
09:13 Dyrcona @blame my laptop
09:13 pinesol_green Dyrcona: I come to bury Dyrcona's laptop, not to praise them.
09:14 Dyrcona Hm.. That's a thought, burying it....
09:15 Dyrcona It just shuts down at random intervals. Hasn't done it for months, and then, when I was scrolling through text in a console.... It shuts off as if it lost all power.
09:19 Dyrcona Much annoy! Very frustrate!
09:19 Dyrcona :)
09:22 Dyrcona phasefx: I bought that bundle last night, just in case you're curious.
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10:18 phasefx Dyrcona: rock :D
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10:50 Stompro Dyrcona++ for the no-op checking floating fix.  That is a daily issue for us.
10:51 Dyrcona Stompro: You are most welcome. It's not daily here, but happens often enough to be an annoyance.
10:51 Dyrcona If you'd care to sign off on the fix, that would be much appreciated. :)
10:51 Stompro Dyrcona, I'll try and test as soon as I can.
10:52 Dyrcona Cool.
10:55 Dyrcona Now, I'm wondering if I need to join metabib.record_attr_vector_list twice if I want to look up bibs by item_type and item_form....
10:55 Dyrcona I'll try it with it joined once to see what happens.
11:07 Dyrcona Joining the mravl table one time does what I want.
11:12 Dyrcona Hmm.. I suppose that I could also come up with a search string for this and call open-ils.search.biblio.multiclass.query.... Decisions...decisions.
11:19 Dyrcona Hmm... Why are the APIs that use bib_extras in OpenILS::Search::Biblio deprecated?
11:24 Dyrcona Correction: OpenILS::Application::Search::Biblio. :)
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11:35 berick Dyrcona: they are a (now) unnecessary layer over coded value maps, which you can fetch directly
11:36 berick and they only offer access to a subset of ccvm types
11:36 Dyrcona berick: OK. I can see that.
11:37 Dyrcona Also, the names containing "map" gave me false hope that it could easily be used as a lookup table.
11:37 Dyrcona I have some incoming records and I want to map their field values to marc21 rec types and ccvm rather quickly.
11:38 Dyrcona I'll build my own lookup code.
11:39 Dyrcona But, yeah. After looking those methods don't appear to be very useful any more.
11:58 miker Dyrcona: what do you mean by "field values"? fixed fields, or datafield->subfield contents?
11:59 miker or, I gues, what's your goal?
12:01 Dyrcona fixed fields.
12:02 Dyrcona i want to find records that match on item form and 035$a or 020$a.
12:02 miker ah, match as in vandelay matching?
12:02 Dyrcona Similar, yes.
12:03 Dyrcona Right now, I'm looking at doing it all with SQL.
12:03 Dyrcona Well, Perl and DBI.
12:03 miker gotcha. are 035a and 020a set up as uncontrolled record attrs for you right now?
12:04 miker and, do you need to match the records before they make into the db, or is post-insert ok? (either can work, but post-insert means all-sql, no perl)
12:05 Dyrcona The match is done pre-insert, because if there's a match, I won't insert the record.
12:05 miker k
12:05 Dyrcona Instead, I'll add an 856 to the existing record.
12:07 Dyrcona The ultimate goal is to add new URLs for electronic resource records.
12:07 * Dyrcona steps away for a bit.
12:07 miker anyway, I bet you see where I'm heading ... look up the set of controlled and uncontrolled value IDs, probe metabib.record_attr_vector_list
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12:48 Dyrcona miker: Yeah, I've got a query to retrieve bibs by item type and form that uses mravl.
12:49 Dyrcona I don't think 035 and 020 lend themselves to mravl, since they are not controlled, nor controllable.
12:52 Dyrcona @dessert 46 bshum
12:52 * pinesol_green grabs some a thick slice of Jubilee Roll for bshum
12:52 Dyrcona Meh. The plugin is "too smart."
12:57 Dyrcona I was looking at the deprecated function because I was looking at alternatives to trying to lookup the item form in an incoming marc records.
12:57 Dyrcona Looks like I'll make an object module to read some data from the database and create lookup tables.
12:58 Dyrcona It'll have methods to look up various attributes for a given MARC::Record.
13:12 * kmlussier rediscovers bug 1522644 and contemplates raising the discussion on the mailing list again to remove that "Transfer All Title" holds button from the web client.
13:12 pinesol_green Launchpad bug 1522644 in Evergreen "webclient: Transfer title holds issues" [Medium,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1522644
13:14 mmorgan kmlussier++
13:14 kmlussier I knew mmorgan would agree with me. :)
13:15 mmorgan :)
13:17 kmlussier Alternatively, we could set up a new sound alert that loudly says "Danger, Will Robinson!" whenever staff performs an action that is potentially dangerous.
13:19 mmorgan Would fit right in with the red alert sound.
13:19 mmorgan How about a loud alert that says "Don't do that!"
13:20 bshum "Warning: this may void your warranty"
13:21 kmlussier Ha ha ha. I would like to know who I should go to for those warranty repairs.
13:22 mmorgan How about a 3-d animated gif that slaps the user's hand?
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15:51 agoben Can meet at the usual corner if she's still ok with going.  (Want to make sure she's not had a relapse or anything...)
15:53 Dyrcona agoben: Wrong window?
15:55 agoben lol, yep!  Sorry about that!
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16:33 Dyrcona Bit late, I know, but....
16:34 Dyrcona I have a record that blows up in MARC::Batch with this message: utf8 "\xE8" does not map to Unicode at /usr/lib/perl/5.14/Encode.pm line 176.
16:34 Dyrcona I already have strict_off(), so I wonder how to trap that error and keep on going.
16:34 Dyrcona Maybe I should have a look at Encode.pm.
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16:53 Dyrcona Nope. Not gonna be simple to recover from this. I'll have to rethink the logic of my program.
17:00 pinesol_green News from qatests: Test Success <http://testing.evergreen-ils.org/~live>
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