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| 09:00 |
kmlussier |
@coffee [someone] |
| 09:00 |
* pinesol_green |
brews and pours a cup of Ethiopia Biloya Special, and sends it sliding down the bar to remingtron |
| 09:01 |
kmlussier |
@tea [someone] |
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* pinesol_green |
brews and pours a pot of Top Leaf™ Green Tea, and sends it sliding down the bar to dbwells (http://ratetea.com/tea/mellow-monk/top-leaf/1186/) |
| 09:02 |
Dyrcona |
@coffee kmlussier |
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* pinesol_green |
brews and pours a cup of El Salvador Finca Kilimanjaro, and sends it sliding down the bar to kmlussier |
| 09:03 |
remingtron |
coffee! |
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remingtron |
pinesol_green: thank you! |
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pinesol_green |
remingtron: What do you mean? An African or European swallow? |
| 09:04 |
pinesol_green |
Factoid 'thank you!' not found |
| 09:04 |
remingtron |
kmlussier: thanks for poking pinesol_green ! |
| 09:04 |
remingtron |
I've always wanted random coffee :) |
| 09:06 |
kmlussier |
remingtron: pinesol_green seems to have a fondness for Calvin College today. |
| 09:06 |
remingtron |
wow, we feel so (randomly) loved. |
| 09:10 |
csharp |
Calvin_College++ |
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dbwells |
:D |
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| 10:28 |
rhamby |
@quote |
| 10:28 |
pinesol_green |
rhamby: I see nothing, I know nothing! |
| 10:28 |
rhamby |
I think I got that in a fortune cookie once. |
| 10:32 |
kmlussier |
@quote random |
| 10:32 |
pinesol_green |
kmlussier: Quote #72: "<RoganH> gmcharlt: just because it got warmer in Niflheimr doesn't mean you're in Vanaheimr yet." (added by gmcharlt at 10:27 AM, January 07, 2014) |
| 10:35 |
rhamby |
I liked that one. I think I even got a reasonably accurate spelling in on Niflheimr (given different character sets and all that.) |
| 10:40 |
pinesol_green |
[evergreen|Remington Steed] Docs: Small syntax fix, formatting improvements - <http://git.evergreen-ils.org/?p=Evergreen.git;a=commit;h=8ac1932> |
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| 11:36 |
jeff |
I noticed the other day that docs.evergreen-ils.org doesn't seem to have some recent point release release notes. I don't remember if I verified that they were actually in git, though... |
| 11:37 |
jeff |
But is anyone in DIG aware of how the docs site updates, on what schedule and from which branches? |
| 11:37 |
* tsbere |
would not be surprised if some of it was "when X tells it to update" |
| 11:37 |
kmlussier |
jeff: It gets updated at least once a day overnight. But it may have been increased to twice a day. |
| 11:38 |
tsbere |
huh |
| 11:38 |
* tsbere |
also would not be surprised if the lack of release notes was "someone forgot to list them in the proper file" ;) |
| 11:39 |
kmlussier |
http://docs.evergreen-ils.org/dev/ is updated from the master branch, http://docs.evergreen-ils.org/2.10/ is updated from rel_2_10 and so on. |
| 11:41 |
kmlussier |
Huh, it appears that the 2.9 docs and dev docs have recent point release notes, but 2.10 docs do not. |
| 11:41 |
jeff |
from a quick look, it seems that master and rel_2_10 both have release notes for Evergreen 2.10.5, but they do not appear in http://docs.evergreen-ils.org/2.10/ |
| 11:42 |
jeff |
that url claims Last-Modified: Fri, 06 May 2016 12:55:13 GMT |
| 11:43 |
jeff |
(in the http headers) |
| 11:43 |
jeff |
as opposed to the dev and 2.9 urls that both claim a date today. |
| 11:44 |
jeff |
so, if someone has access or contact info to see what's up -- or feel free to point me in another direction. :-) |
| 11:46 |
kmlussier |
Robert Soulliere is the person who runs the docs server |
| 11:50 |
jeff |
And he's the only one who has access? I can drop him an email. |
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| 11:51 |
kmlussier |
I believe so. yboston would know if anyone else has access, but I think it's just Robert. |
| 11:54 |
jeff |
emailed. |
| 11:55 |
kmlussier |
jeff++ |
| 11:59 |
Dyrcona |
That should probably change. |
| 11:59 |
* Dyrcona |
runs off for lunch. |
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| 12:34 |
dbs |
so... ubuntu 16.04 these days? |
| 12:35 |
dbs |
http://evergreen-ils.org/egdownloads/ says "For Ubuntu, please use the latest 64-bit LTS (long term support) Server release." so I guess yes |
| 12:42 |
bshum |
dbs: 16.04 support was added to master for next 2.11 |
| 12:42 |
bshum |
But we hadn't discussed backporting it, since 16.04 added lots of new stuff like PG 9.5 |
| 12:42 |
bshum |
The language on the page could be more concise I suppose. |
| 12:42 |
bshum |
But hey master will work :D |
| 12:43 |
bshum |
In theory. |
| 12:45 |
JBoyer |
Theory and Practice meet at a fork in the road. SIGSEGV. |
| 12:46 |
JBoyer |
(not actually commenting on 16.04 viability) |
| 12:46 |
dbs |
hrm, so should we say "Ubuntu 14.04 LTS" explicitly then, until 2.11 rolls in? |
| 12:47 |
dbs |
(FWIW I was pondering 16.04 for the application server, not for PG server because I know 9.5 has its quirks) |
| 12:55 |
bshum |
dbs: I imagine that would work for app server vs. DB |
| 12:55 |
bshum |
And sure that language sounds more accurate |
| 12:56 |
dbs |
I guess we don't use the Evergreen_Website repo any more? http://git.evergreen-ils.org/?p=Evergreen_Website.git;a=summary |
| 12:56 |
* dbs |
is way out of the loop! |
| 12:56 |
dbs |
thanks bshum |
| 12:57 |
bshum |
dbs: Right it got moved to Wordpress several years ago |
| 12:58 |
dbs |
hah |
| 12:58 |
* tsbere |
personally wonders why we downgraded ;) |
| 12:59 |
jeff |
easier to edit, no more revision control or history. |
| 12:59 |
jeff |
tradeoffs. :-) |
| 12:59 |
bshum |
dbs: You are an admin in Wordpress |
| 12:59 |
tsbere |
jeff: I will disagree with "easier to edit" on that list. :P |
| 13:00 |
* bshum |
shrugs |
| 13:00 |
* dbs |
finds wp login credentials, yayz |
| 13:03 |
kmlussier |
Easier for more end users to edit. |
| 13:05 |
dbs |
WP has revision control and history for pages. Like, for example, if you don't like what I did with version 1.30 of https://evergreen-ils.org/egdownloads you can revert to 1.28 :) |
| 13:05 |
bshum |
I might revise that to say "initial support" since only the crazy people have been testing Xenial :D |
| 13:06 |
dbs |
sure |
| 13:06 |
bshum |
dbs++ |
| 13:06 |
dbs |
But hey, the Venn diagram showing "crazy people" and "active supporters" shows pretty much a complete overlap, so |
| 13:07 |
* bshum |
also feels wobbly about PG 9.5 being named, since the community dev group only *just* voted to use PG 9.3 as baseline |
| 13:07 |
bshum |
But I'm adventurous and loving of new Postgres things |
| 13:07 |
bshum |
:D |
| 13:09 |
* kmlussier |
is reluctant to make suggestions, because there's a fine line between suggesting and volunteering, but... |
| 13:09 |
dbs |
The most conservative route would just be to say "Use Ubuntu 14.04 LTS 64-bit.", and I would be fine with that too |
| 13:10 |
kmlussier |
Would it make sense to add something a recommended PG release or Linux distribution release for each Evergreen release? |
| 13:10 |
dbs |
kmlussier: we used to do that :) |
| 13:10 |
kmlussier |
dbs: I'm sure there was a good reason why you stopped doing it. :) |
| 13:10 |
bshum |
Right there used to be a wiki page with all that stuff on it. Anoop and I got tired of trying out every combination :) |
| 13:11 |
rhamby |
Can we add something to stop the infrequent (but recurring) question of "I can run it on Windows, right?" :-p |
| 13:12 |
kmlussier |
No. It doesn't matter what you put on that page, the question will inevitably come up. |
| 13:12 |
dbs |
kmlussier++ |
| 13:12 |
dbs |
No I read what you wrote there but I mean really how do I run it on windows |
| 13:22 |
dbs |
I've taken out the statement of future support to simplify things. |
| 13:40 |
csharp |
we should probably start recommending/expecting people use the postgresql APT repos so we aren't dependent on the distro-specific versions |
| 13:41 |
csharp |
that way we could move to 16.04 without all the caveats |
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| 14:13 |
* Dyrcona |
is late to the party, as usual, but I'd like to add a comment about 16.04. |
| 14:13 |
Dyrcona |
That is that Canonical doesn't recommend using the latest LTS in production until the .1 release which comes out in July. |
| 14:15 |
bshum |
Dyrcona: Smart tip then, they're like us, the .1 is better :) |
| 14:15 |
bshum |
Or we're like them? Hmm.. |
| 14:15 |
Dyrcona |
I'm NOT planning on backporting support for 16.04 to 2.9. |
| 14:16 |
Dyrcona |
Well the .1 is almost always better because bug fixes. :) |
| 14:17 |
kmlussier |
.5 is pretty awesome |
| 14:18 |
Dyrcona |
While on the subject of Ubuntu releases, we're also supposed to remove support for 12.04 in 2.11, and bshum has posted branches for both OpenSRF and Evergreen. |
| 14:18 |
Dyrcona |
kmlussier: .8 is always the best. ;) |
| 14:18 |
* Dyrcona |
remembers 2.0.11..... ;) |
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bshum |
@praise gmcharlt |
| 16:05 |
* pinesol_green |
gmcharlt is one of the few who deserves to be praised |
| 16:05 |
bshum |
Doh, not the newbie one :) |
| 16:06 |
gmcharlt |
nah, pinesol_green, lots of folks deserve praise |
| 16:06 |
bshum |
@praise 2 gmcharlt |
| 16:06 |
* pinesol_green |
gmcharlt is kind and patient to newbies |
| 16:10 |
Dyrcona |
The question makes me wonder if they installed OpenSRF already. |
| 16:10 |
Dyrcona |
I suspect there will be a follow up email in a short while. |
| 16:12 |
gmcharlt |
Dyrcona: I will not best against you there :) |
| 16:12 |
gmcharlt |
*bet |
| 16:34 |
JBoyer |
gmcharlt, time for me to vanish in a puff of smoke, but I wanted to send a gentle nudge re: my sec team email just in case it was lost amongst the shuffle. I forgot I was sending it during an extremely busy week. :) |
| 16:34 |
* gmcharlt |
blames ALA |
| 16:35 |
Dyrcona |
@blame ALA |
| 16:35 |
pinesol_green |
Dyrcona: ALA must eat cottage cheese! |
| 16:35 |
* gmcharlt |
now also blames ALA for eating my cottage cheese |
| 16:42 |
kmlussier |
I figure I can blame ALA for all the things I don't get to over the next month. |
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* berick |
wishes #evergreen a pleasant weekend |
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