| Time |
Nick |
Message |
| 01:18 |
jeff |
4.7h |
| 02:09 |
bshum |
Good times jeff :) |
| 02:16 |
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| 10:12 |
jeff |
small batches: they're not just for whiskey |
| 10:21 |
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| 10:21 |
webmind |
ohai |
| 10:21 |
webmind |
I'm trying to install evergeen |
| 10:21 |
webmind |
evergreen |
| 10:21 |
webmind |
but getting a bit confused |
| 10:22 |
webmind |
before installing evergreen, you need install opensrf, is running 'make -f src/extras/Makefile.install ubuntu-trusty' enough? |
| 10:23 |
webmind |
or does that only install the prereqs? |
| 10:29 |
webmind |
I gues not |
| 10:29 |
jeff |
that only installs pre-reqs, you are correct. |
| 10:37 |
webmind |
I'm at chown -R opensrf:opensrf /openils |
| 10:37 |
webmind |
but that user does not exist |
| 10:37 |
webmind |
when kind of user should this be |
| 10:37 |
webmind |
? |
| 10:38 |
jeff |
if that user does not exist, then you've missed at least one step. |
| 10:38 |
jeff |
I'd recommend re-tracing your steps -- the directions for creating that user are there. |
| 10:39 |
webmind |
creation of the user is not featured at https://evergreen-ils.org/documentation/install/README_2_10.html |
| 10:40 |
webmind |
but the site claims it's done during the installation of opensrf |
| 10:40 |
jeff |
> The opensrf Linux account is an account that you create when installing OpenSRF. |
| 10:40 |
webmind |
ah yes |
| 10:40 |
webmind |
and that docs is not the website? |
| 10:41 |
* webmind |
finds the hopping between installation docs a bit confusing |
| 10:41 |
jeff |
I don't know offhand, but it's loacated within the OpenSRF download for certain. |
| 10:41 |
webmind |
it's in the INSTALL file |
| 10:41 |
webmind |
but would be nice if the installation instructions are a complete document |
| 10:42 |
webmind |
but I'm going to reserve more time at another moment for doing this |
| 10:42 |
webmind |
it's a bit of a bigger operation than expected :) |
| 10:43 |
jeff |
The fact that OpenSRF is a requirement and needs to be installed first (using its own installation steps and with its own pre-req makefile) could perhaps be made more clear. |
| 10:43 |
jeff |
But once armed with that information, you shouldn't need to bounce between the two installation documents -- just OpenSRF first, then Evergreen. :-) |
| 10:44 |
webmind |
also considering opensrf seems to be part of the evergreen project |
| 10:44 |
webmind |
same download location |
| 10:44 |
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| 10:44 |
jeff |
Thanks for the feedback on the docs -- it's easy for those of us who have much of this in our heads to overlook gaps. |
| 10:45 |
webmind |
what is opensrf btw? |
| 10:45 |
webmind |
my pleasure |
| 10:46 |
jeff |
It's the distributed messaging framework that the various Evergreen services use to communicate with each other, and clients. |
| 10:47 |
webmind |
k |
| 10:47 |
webmind |
how come there are no distribution packages available? too much extra work? |
| 10:49 |
jeff |
There have been a few folk who have taken up the task over the years, with varying degrees of success/progress. I can't offer an educated opinion on "why", really. At my library, we use ansible to build Evergreen systems from a base Debian image with OpenSRF and Evergreen compiled on top of that. |
| 10:50 |
jeff |
Other libraries / vendors have their own process for either building a cluster of VMs or for using packages/scripts to install Evergreen and associated related software. |
| 10:50 |
webmind |
yeah, looking at evergreen for a small ngo |
| 10:50 |
webmind |
who has a library of 2 bookcase |
| 10:50 |
webmind |
cases |
| 10:50 |
webmind |
I read scalable as also aimed at small organisations :) |
| 10:51 |
webmind |
seem quite like a big system though |
| 10:51 |
webmind |
(but no idea yet) |
| 10:54 |
webmind |
is it suitable for small organisations? |
| 10:57 |
jeff |
We're not that small, so I can't give first-hand advice. Evergreen can scale down, but there is a certain base footprint in terms of resources. You might also add Koha to your list of options to evaluate, if you haven't already. |
| 10:57 |
webmind |
I only got this option mentioned |
| 10:58 |
webmind |
so thanks |
| 10:58 |
jeff |
Koha lives at https://koha-community.org/ |
| 11:00 |
webmind |
thnx |
| 11:07 |
bshum |
jeff++ # Saturday morning Q&A |
| 11:07 |
bshum |
This is a link I found on the wiki with various semi-automated install approaches for Evergreen |
| 11:07 |
bshum |
http://wiki.evergreen-ils.org/doku.php?id=server_installation:semi_automated |
| 11:08 |
bshum |
On the bottom of said list is a link to GPLS' package efforts |
| 11:09 |
bshum |
We should dust those off and look at it more closely some day. Maybe. |
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| 11:31 |
webmind |
it's late afternoon here :) |
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| 14:41 |
jeff |
264m49.093s on the attr-only ingest with 28 children and batches of 1000. All in all, not much shorter than the run last night with batches of 10,000. |
| 14:41 |
jeff |
Though the box was under different load last night than this morning/afternoon, so that could be a factor also. |
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