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csharp |
@weather 30033 |
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csharp |
@weather 30033 |
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pinesol_green |
csharp: Decatur, GA :: Thunderstorm :: 63F/17C | Monday: Cloudy with periods of rain, some heavy early. Thunder possible. High 66F. Winds ENE at 10 to 15 mph. Chance of rain 100%. 1 to 2 inches of rain expected. Monday Night: Overcast. Slight chance of a rain shower. Low 57F. Winds light and variable. |
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csharp |
so rain, much wet |
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csharp |
@weather 01923 |
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pinesol_green |
csharp: Danvers, MA :: Clear :: 47F/8C | Monday: Sunshine and a few clouds. High near 60F. Winds WNW at 5 to 10 mph. Monday Night: Some clouds this evening will give way to mainly clear skies overnight. Low 41F. Winds light and variable. |
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* csharp |
just read "manly clear skies"; decides to get more coffee |
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kmlussier |
Yes, I often find that clear skies are rather manly. |
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Dyrcona |
Fun, fun, fun... |
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csharp |
wow - looks like a full house for the hackaway, kmlussier! |
| 08:50 |
* csharp |
just saw the added entries to http://wiki.evergreen-ils.org/doku.php?id=hack-a-way-2015-agenda |
| 08:50 |
kmlussier |
:) |
| 08:51 |
kmlussier |
Some of the NOBLE folks may be coming and going during the event, but I know several of them are interested in working on course reserves during the week. |
| 08:51 |
* mmorgan |
may need to start brewing the coffee now |
| 08:51 |
csharp |
mmorgan++ |
| 08:53 |
kmlussier |
Also, I invited kenstir, who has been working on bug 1506207. He's local, so I thought it would be a good opportunity for him to meet other devs from the community. And maybe we can make the app more generic for other eg sites. :) |
| 08:53 |
pinesol_green |
Launchpad bug 1506207 in Evergreen "Android app for Evergreen" [Wishlist,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1506207 - Assigned to Ken Cox (kenstir) |
| 08:54 |
csharp |
awesome! |
| 08:55 |
Dyrcona |
I won't be there, but I might see if I can make in on Wednesday. |
| 08:55 |
csharp |
Dyrcona: hope you can ;-) |
| 08:58 |
Dyrcona |
My wife has a retreat with other teachers from her school on Thursday night through Friday, so I'm taking the days off. |
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csharp |
ah - understood |
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Dyrcona |
I'm not going on the retreat, of course. I'm staying home because our daughter won't have school on Friday and will only have a half day on Thursday. |
| 09:17 |
* gmcharlt |
tosses out #evghack15 as a suggested hashtag for the hack-a-way |
| 09:18 |
jeff |
less tweeting, more hacking! |
| 09:18 |
gmcharlt |
no hacking in a vacuum! ;) |
| 09:19 |
jeff |
:-) |
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| 09:38 |
Dyrcona |
Alway good with opensrf.math add 2,2 tells you the response is 4. |
| 09:39 |
gmcharlt |
Dyrcona: has it every done otherwise for you? ;) |
| 09:39 |
Dyrcona |
Once in a while it says whatever it says when the service is not running. :) |
| 09:40 |
tsbere |
gmcharlt: No response, error response, and I once got it to answer with a hash ref instead of a number. |
| 09:40 |
gmcharlt |
boring; just once it would be nice if it were to connect with an OpenSRF stack running in a different universe with different laws of arithmetic! |
| 09:40 |
* Dyrcona |
is starting Movember/NaNoWriMo with a fresh vm. |
| 09:41 |
* Dyrcona |
wishes he could write fiction as easily as he writes code. |
| 09:44 |
Dyrcona |
I often threaten myself with writing software to write fiction. |
| 09:44 |
gmcharlt |
well, there's the whole Literate Programming thing |
| 09:44 |
jeff |
Dyrcona: I've pondered entering a poetry contest using a markov chain generated from past published winners of said contest. |
| 09:44 |
gmcharlt |
and heck, code as a literary genre, while it's inspired things like Perl poetry, is underdeveloped |
| 09:45 |
Dyrcona |
jeff++ gmcharlt++ |
| 09:45 |
Dyrcona |
Yep, on both counts. |
| 09:46 |
Dyrcona |
jeff: BTW, https://github.com/Dyrcona/markov |
| 09:46 |
jeff |
first I'd like to finish work on a bot to read my mail from other bots. |
| 09:46 |
Dyrcona |
heh. |
| 09:47 |
Dyrcona |
My daughter thought it was fun to run Through the Looking Glass and Alice's Adventures in Wonderland through a Markov chain. |
| 09:47 |
jeff |
email is a de facto notification channel for many things, but especially since much of this is "warn me when you DON'T get one of these" or "warn me when it contains something other than THIS", I really think a script would be more appropriate. |
| 09:48 |
Dyrcona |
Yep. Icinga sends me a text for the truly important stuff. :) |
| 09:48 |
Dyrcona |
One vendor sends us an email when a new batch of records is ready to load. |
| 09:49 |
Dyrcona |
I thought asking them to send it to a new email address that will run a program to download the records and load them into Evergreen automatically. |
| 09:49 |
Dyrcona |
Gee, I can see it's gonna be one of those days, where I words. ;) |
| 09:49 |
* jeff |
reads the post-mortem/apology from a phone vendor |
| 09:49 |
jeff |
nope, nothing interesting. |
| 09:50 |
jeff |
sometimes postmortems are entertaining, educational, or both. this was not one of those post-mortems. |
| 09:51 |
jeff |
unless you want to take the lesson of "sometimes outages have mundane causes like 'failure to handle increased load'. don't forget the simple stuff when doing whatever risk analysis you do." |
| 09:51 |
Dyrcona |
Interesting, two people have forked my Markov code. |
| 09:52 |
Dyrcona |
We currently have an email outage because, main hard drive on the server filled up. |
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* tsbere |
found a way to free up enough space to allow logging into webmail again, but is still waiting on moving a large number of small files to an alternate location |
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mixo |
hello, does circulator access to server with staff client? |
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csharp |
mixo: I'm not understanding your question? Could you explain what you mean by "circulator"? Which server do you mean? |
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csharp |
s/question?/question... / |
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tizwoz |
Is there a recommended Linux Server distro recommended for the database? |
| 12:21 |
gmcharlt |
tizwoz: Debian, Ubuntu, and Fedora all have current support; most folks use a Debian or Ubuntu |
| 12:23 |
tizwoz |
Thank you. When you say "current support", are you referring to support from Evergreen techs? |
| 12:24 |
gmcharlt |
community support from folks currently using Evergreen (and there being folks sending in patches to keep per-distro stuff up to date) |
| 12:26 |
tizwoz |
That's very useful. Will take a look at those distros again. Thanks. |
| 12:26 |
mixo |
I've created user as cilculator |
| 12:27 |
mixo |
and when i try to login to server with staff client I get permission denied message |
| 12:27 |
mixo |
view_billing_type, perission denied |
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csharp |
mixo: make sure your user has the right working location - you can set that within the user account -> Other -> User Permission Editor - just check the box by the branch that owns the workstation |
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jeff |
jboyer-isl++ for the "de-tangle shared addresses" script at https://bugs.launchpad.net/evergreen/+bug/885270/comments/8 |
| 13:02 |
pinesol_green |
Launchpad bug 885270 in Evergreen "Delete User Aborts on Shared Address" [Medium,Confirmed] |
| 13:03 |
jeff |
came in handy for updating 61 users at a library that had opted to enable the copy-don't-link address setting. |
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csharp |
jeff: yeah, that helped us too :-) |
| 14:25 |
csharp |
jboyer-isl++ |
| 14:25 |
jeff |
modified to only affect one home_ou, ran a quick check to see if we could skip the "two different addresses" part (we could). |
| 14:49 |
berick |
wondering if it would make sense to put canonical URL's in our TPAC record detail pages that point to the same pages in our external catalog (bibliocommons). |
| 14:49 |
berick |
they're not the same pages, of course, but the content is mostly the same |
| 14:50 |
berick |
and ideally the googs would send traffic to the external catalog (since that's what patrons use) |
| 14:50 |
gmcharlt |
doesn't seem unreasonable if you've got crawls going at the TPAC |
| 14:50 |
gmcharlt |
*crawlers |
| 14:51 |
gmcharlt |
curious: BiblioCommons embed any semantic markup? |
| 14:51 |
berick |
gmcharlt: just about deploy bug #1330784 in fact |
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pinesol_green |
Launchpad bug 1330784 in Evergreen "Evergreen needs automated sitemap generation" [Wishlist,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1330784 |
| 14:52 |
berick |
gmcharlt: i know they have work in progress, but i'm not sure what's actually done yet |
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* berick |
reads bug #1406451 |
| 14:53 |
pinesol_green |
Launchpad bug 1406451 in Evergreen "Discoverability: apply rel=canonical to record detail and library pages" [Undecided,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1406451 |
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dbs |
berick: huh, normally canonical is all about stripping off query params and the like to present one clean view |
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dbs |
saying the canonical URL for cat.foo.com/eg/opac/1 should be cat.bar.com/1 (cross domain) seems weird, but never really thought about it |
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berick |
dbs: yeah, that was my concern. it's not quite what it's for |
| 15:22 |
dbs |
It's all snake oil! |
| 15:23 |
dbs |
Bibliocommons embeds OpenGraph Protocol (Facebook) and Twitter card metadata in <head> |
| 15:29 |
dbs |
I could see cat.foo.com -> cat.bibliocommons.com, I guess. Worth a try! But holy crap are you ever locked into bibliocommons after that... :) |
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dbs |
@who has all the google juice? |
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pinesol_green |
phasefx has all the google juice. |
| 15:30 |
dbs |
Those quiet types, always so powerful |
| 15:30 |
berick |
https://support.google.com/webmasters/answer/1716747?hl=en suggests cross-domain is OK. |
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berick |
may be some locale issues to contend with |
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dbs |
nice |
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* phasefx |
had the google juice, but they deprecated and removed it to better focus on other stuff |
| 15:59 |
Stompro |
What term would be used in permissions for items that have to do with damaged materials? I cannot find anything that has to do with marking damaged in 950.data.seed-values.sql. |
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mmorgan |
Stompro: I have MARK_ITEM_DAMAGED |
| 16:01 |
berick |
and that's what the code appears to be looking for |
| 16:02 |
berick |
hm, not seeing that in the seed data either |
| 16:03 |
mmorgan |
Odd. I don |
| 16:03 |
mmorgan |
oops. |
| 16:04 |
mmorgan |
I don't remember adding that, but it has id 1044 in our db. |
| 16:04 |
Stompro |
I wonder what happened to it? |
| 16:05 |
Stompro |
I'll create a bug report and add it manually. |
| 16:05 |
mmorgan |
That high an id suggests that it was added to our db at some point. |
| 16:05 |
dbs |
Perhaps it was marked as damaged and removed |
| 16:05 |
* berick |
chuckles |
| 16:05 |
mmorgan |
Heh. |
| 16:05 |
berick |
don't see it in any version upgrades, etc. probably never existed |
| 16:05 |
Stompro |
Secret permissions are the best permissions. |
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* gmcharlt |
is a big fan of the OPEN_NECRONOMICON permission |
| 16:06 |
gmcharlt |
wait... I may have said too much |
| 16:07 |
dbs |
Feel free to open it. Just don't read it out loud |
| 16:07 |
* mmorgan |
sees a number of permissions with ids higher than 1000 in our db. If those also don't exist in the seed data, should I add them on to Stompro's soon to exist bug? |
| 16:08 |
berick |
mmorgan: depends. some may be local only, particularly for things like perms to create user's in custom groups |
| 16:08 |
Stompro |
I think there are several bugs open right now about missing permissions. |
| 16:08 |
gmcharlt |
i.e., group_application.user.* |
| 16:09 |
mmorgan |
berick: Yeah. I have added those, but I also have added, for example ITEM_DEPOSIT_PAID.override, ITEM_DEPOSIT_REQUIRED.override |
| 16:10 |
mmorgan |
possibly a few others, too. |
| 16:10 |
berick |
mmorgan: yeah, those should probably be bugged |
| 16:11 |
Dyrcona |
EVERYTHING EVERYWHERE |
| 16:12 |
mmorgan |
Dyrcona: Where's the challeng in that? ;-) |
| 16:12 |
Stompro |
mmorgan, lp 1456301 might be a good spot to add those to. |
| 16:12 |
pinesol_green |
Launchpad bug 1456301 in Evergreen "No permission in permission.perm_list that give permission to override ITEM_DEPOSIT_REQUIRED" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1456301 |
| 16:14 |
mmorgan |
ok, I'll see what else I've added and visit launchpad. |
| 16:14 |
mmorgan |
Stompro++ |
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kmlussier |
I probably won't be here in the morning since I'll be embarking on day 2 of jlitrell's crazy tour of the MassLNC consortia offices, so I'm stopping in tonight to wish everyone a happy travels as they make their way to Mass. tomorrow. |
| 17:58 |
berick |
thanks, see you soon, kmlussier |
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gmcharlt |
thanks, kmlussier! |
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