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Topic for #evergreen is now Welcome to the #evergreen library system channel! | We are publicly logged: http://irc.evergreen-ils.org/evergreen | Large pastes at http://paste.evergreen-ils.org |
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kmlussier |
Good morning #evergreen! |
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kmlussier |
@coffee [someone] |
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* pinesol_green |
brews and pours a cup of Ibonia Kenya Peaberry, and sends it sliding down the bar to geoffsams |
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kmlussier |
@tea [someone] |
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* pinesol_green |
brews and pours a pot of Bio Pao Chung Pouchong, and sends it sliding down the bar to akilsdonk (http://ratetea.com/tea/teehaus-bachfischer/bio-pao-chung-pouchong/7609/) |
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mmorgan |
Good morning! |
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csharp |
Good morning to all of y'all. |
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kmlussier |
This time next week, we'll be saying good morning to each other face to face. :D |
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kmlussier |
With real coffee. |
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* kmlussier |
sees Dyrcona arrive and remembers that she needs to add a new branch to the list of branches to load on his dev server. |
| 08:59 |
* csharp |
needs to prepare his own dev environment(s) for the hackaway |
| 09:03 |
Dyrcona |
I have a rather urgent question: why would acp.po_items be empty? |
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* csharp |
checks his acq db |
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mmorgan |
Dyrcona: our acq.po_item has 17 rows. Our acq expert is not sure it's used. |
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Dyrcona |
I know it is used. |
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Dyrcona |
I don't know all of the details but there is code that is processed when an invoice comes in that won't do certain things if po_items is empty. |
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kmlussier |
Dyrcona: It would be empty if nobody was adding direct charges via the PO. But you know it's being used? |
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csharp |
maybe it's non-copy-related |
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csharp |
kmlussier: right |
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kmlussier |
Let me double-check the database, but I think it's related to direct charges, right? |
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Dyrcona |
Well, then, I don't know what someone's problem is. |
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kmlussier |
What is the problem that was reported? |
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mmorgan |
17 rows seems a very small number for us as we have several libraries actively using acq. |
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csharp |
ours have entries like "3 rolls tape" in the 'title' column |
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kmlussier |
Yeah, we find the most people add the direct charges from the invoice, but those direct charges are stored in another table. |
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csharp |
(and we have 18 rows) |
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* mmorgan |
is seeing similar to what csharp is. Jackets, etc., Shipping and Handling ... |
| 09:07 |
kmlussier |
For a while, there were problems adding direct charges from the PO, so people avoided doing it. Those bugs have been fixed, but only fairly recently. |
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csharp |
I looked one up and it's under "Direct Charges, Taxes, Fees, etc." on the PO |
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Dyrcona |
Thanks everyone. That must not be the issue. |
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Dyrcona |
I'll have to dig into it on Monday. I've got a demo to attend this afternoon. |
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jboyer-isl |
"Hey, should we connect these 2 switches via their stack ports or with an ethernet cable?" "Why connect them at all?" "What if someone wants to actually use all of the ports?" "Hah! Who would want to do that?" |
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csharp |
@eightball will I regret putting off things I don't want to do until after the hackaway? |
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pinesol_green |
csharp: Come again? |
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kmlussier |
@eightball Do you ever provide useful answers? |
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pinesol_green |
kmlussier: No clue. |
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berick |
heh |
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* kmlussier |
buckles down to complete the work she knows she can't put off until after the hackaway. |
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jeff |
jboyer-isl: i thought your tale was going to end in a loop and "why didn't we have STP enabled" regret. |
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jboyer-isl |
jeff: No, though it may have ended with a pair of dead/damaged switches had I not read that you're not supposed to connect stacking ports while things are hot. |
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jeff |
jboyer-isl: ouch. |
| 10:20 |
jeff |
i've never been a fan of stacking switches, though it's somewhat nice when the switches support stacking over a standard port. |
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jeff |
though there are some architectures where a dedicated port (or just a 10 GbE port) has advantages. |
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jboyer-isl |
jeff: I've found that you get the best bandwidth from buying 1 48 port switch over 2 24 ports in any config. :) |
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jboyer-isl |
But before I can replace my networking equipment I have to buy a cage nut tool, etc. I'm thinking of picking up a half dozen, littering them about like party favors. |
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Bmagic |
Happy Halloween yall! |
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berick |
and may your eyes of newt be potent |
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rjackson_isl |
rjackson-isl is thinking of dressing as a "caged nut" or some other "tool"! ;) |
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csharp |
and your voodoo dolls effective! |
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Dyrcona |
@who uses voodoo doll. |
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pinesol_green |
mdriscoll uses voodoo doll. |
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Dyrcona |
It is super-effective! |
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csharp |
Dyrcona: (and any other fellow Bob Dylan fans): http://www.npr.org/2015/10/23/451169307/first-listen-bob-dylan-the-cutting-edge-1965-1966-the-bootleg-series-vol-12 |
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kmlussier |
bshum++ #Helping me with legacy lost transactions that were having trouble with the Do not change fines/fees on zero-balance LOST transaction |
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gsams |
One of our libraries is getting an odd error when attempting to add items to the catalog. |
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pastebot |
"gsams" at 64.57.241.14 pasted "Odd error for one user" (23 lines) at http://paste.evergreen-ils.org/19 |
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gsams |
As best as I can tell there is something wrong with a template somewhere, but I'm not seeing any errors around the time frame |
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berick |
gsams: we had something like that happen recently. are they using copy templates? |
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gsams |
yes, I've been trying to see if there is something wrong with them |
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berick |
in our case, there were extra chars like carriage returns or something in the templates |
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berick |
that JSON.parse() doesn't like |
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berick |
but our old JSON parser was OK with |
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berick |
we ended up editing the copy templates by hand to remove any spaces or excess junk |
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gsams |
I will check into that and see if anything comes of it, thanks for the info! |
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gsams |
Hmmm. It seems that the templates are not necessarily at fault but then I'm not sure what would be. |
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gsams |
I am thinking I might just suggest reinstallation for this and hope that clears it up for her. |
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gsams |
I had her export her templates and send them to me, testing shows that the templates work just fine elsewhere and do not have any odd characters or issues. |
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jboyer-isl |
The state of automated vm building in Ubuntu is dire. |
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jboyer-isl |
(unless you use Canonical's OpenStack stuff, I suppose?) |
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Dyrcona |
jboyer-isl: I manage with vm-builder. |
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disappears in a puff of digital logic. |
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csharp |
jboyer-isl: we manage by building stock VMs and cloning as necessary |
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csharp |
on my to-do list is to install openstack on some soon-to-be-legacy hardware and build an EG cluster with it |
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jeff |
at present i'm using bootstrap-vz to build AMIs, usually just "debian with not much else". |
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RyanM_ |
Hi! Just recently upgraded to Evergreen client version 2.7.5, and the shortcut key in Cataloging, CTRL-S, no longer brings up a window of selectable special characters that includes the copyright and published symbols. It's all accent marked foreign characters. Is there another shortcut for the special characters such as copyright, etc..? |
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tsbere |
RyanM_: I think we added some of those to a local customization at one point. Maybe that had been done for you? |
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RyanM_ |
I don't know. All I know is that a few months ago (Prior to this recent update [last week]) they announced that this shortcut was there, and now all the available characters are umlauted letters and the like, but no copyright or other symbol characters. |
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RyanM_ |
It's the ultimate cataloging tease, to add the function and then take it away! |
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tsbere |
We added an extra row as a customization. If that had been done pre-upgrade, but not maintained during the upgrade, you would have lost them |
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RyanM_ |
Ah. Well, hopefully it is added back in then. |
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RyanM_ |
Thanks! |
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Bmagic |
with grouped formats turned on in a scoped search, EG includes bibs outside of the scope in the list of formats on each grouped result. Is that by design? |
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jeff |
Bmagic: bug 1420509 may cover that, unless i'm not understanding you correctly |
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pinesol_green |
Launchpad bug 1420509 in Evergreen "Grouped metabib results shows format icons that are not included" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1420509 |
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jeff |
also potentially related, bug 1461651 and potentially bug 1461650 |
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pinesol_green |
Launchpad bug 1461651 in Evergreen "In metarecord holds, the available format list should update the available formats once a pickup location is selected." [Wishlist,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1461651 |
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pinesol_green |
Launchpad bug 1461650 in Evergreen "Metarecord search does not honor search filters" [Medium,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1461650 |
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kmlussier |
And this one https://bugs.launchpad.net/evergreen/+bug/1403907 |
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pinesol_green |
Launchpad bug 1403907 in Evergreen "E-resources not included in ver 2.7.1 Group formats and editions search" [Medium,Confirmed] |
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Bmagic |
wow |
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* kmlussier |
wanted to join the metarecord bug party |
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Bmagic |
I was just taking a stab at 1420509 which is why I asked the question to begin with because I wasn't totally sure it was a bug |
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kmlussier |
Bmagic: My expectation is that, in a scoped search, the results page would only display icons for formats owned by the scoped OUs. |
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kmlussier |
Whether it's by design or not, I don't know, but I would consider it to be a bug. |
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Bmagic |
I would think that as well, but that's just little old me |
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Bmagic |
looking at the code, I was starting to have doubts |
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kmlussier |
I would say bug and will set the bug to Medium priority to set the decision in stone. |
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kmlussier |
Until somebody else decides to change it to Wishlist. ;) |
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Bmagic |
word up |
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* kmlussier |
should probably take a stab at confirming it, but can't today. |
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kmlussier |
@who needs to stop procrastinating? |
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pinesol_green |
jcamins needs to stop procrastinating. |
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kmlussier |
Bmagic: FWIW, during a quick attempt to confirm it, the only time I ran across the problem was with ebooks, and, in all those cases, the e-formats should have appeared in the final search results, but didn't because of bug 140397. |
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pinesol_green |
kmlussier: Error: Could not gather data from Launchpad for bug #140397 (https://launchpad.net/bugs/140397). The error has been logged |
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kmlussier |
So I'm not sure I can confirm that we're seeing the problem here. |
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kmlussier |
Sorry ,that was bug 1403907 |
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pinesol_green |
Launchpad bug 1403907 in Evergreen "E-resources not included in ver 2.7.1 Group formats and editions search" [Medium,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1403907 |
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Bmagic |
right on, I was on the same trail, still hammering away |
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Bmagic |
I'm not positive yet |
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Bmagic |
the code is hard to follow |
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kmlussier |
OK, good luck with it! Anything you can do to fix metarecord bugs would be much appreciated here. :) |
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kmlussier |
@dessert |
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* pinesol_green |
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Stompro |
gmcharlt++ for figuring out that the hold proximity was getting sorted asciibetically. |
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gmcharlt |
Stompro: I had a feeling you'd notice that bug report right away ;) |
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Stompro |
gmcharlt, I'll adjust our proximity adjustments so we stop sending holds cross consortium by default. |
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gmcharlt |
bshum: around? |
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bshum |
gmcharlt: sorry, was away, what's up? |
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bshum |
If not I'll try catching up next week. |
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kmlussier |
5 pm deadline has come and gone. Looks like we have just one nominee for RM |
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kmlussier |
gmcharlt++ |
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