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pinesol_green |
Incoming from qatests: Test Success - http://testing.evergreen-ils.org/~live/test.html <http://testing.evergreen-ils.org/~live/test.html> |
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08:21 |
jeff |
hah. thought i was seeing something Really Odd. |
08:22 |
jeff |
enabled SIP msg64_hold_datatype = barcode, did some testing with (a possibly hacked up copy of) tsbere's PHP SIP2 client. requested Hold and UnavailableHolds summary types in a patron information message. |
08:23 |
jeff |
the only item barcodes i was seeing in the response were not items i had holds on... but they were items that i would not be able to renew because someone ELSE had a hold on them. |
08:23 |
jeff |
This seemed like a Really Odd failure method until I realized that something was amiss and that the details I was getting were overdue items (which just so happened to be overdue because they had not been able to be renewed, etc) |
08:24 |
jeff |
Anyway, all better. |
08:24 |
jeff |
And if I didn't break it in the first place, I'll pass on a patch to tsbere. :-) |
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09:10 |
Dyrcona |
perl-- |
09:10 |
Dyrcona |
An empty hashref is a true value: i.e. "{}" evaluates to true. |
09:11 |
csharp |
ew |
09:11 |
Dyrcona |
I knew that, but I didn't realize that is what I was getting back from a lib when a value was not set. |
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09:33 |
jeff |
for those following along at home, i was missing at least one relevant PHPSIP2 commit: a27e927 Fix patronInformation summary field setting. |
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09:42 |
Dyrcona |
"And, there was rejoicing." |
09:42 |
Dyrcona |
oops. misquoted. |
09:44 |
Dyrcona |
For those following along at home or not: I added some defensive code to NCIPServer and it now returns a Problem message when identifier fields are empty, instead of causing a crash in Actor.pm at line 1140 or 1134, depending on your release. |
09:45 |
Dyrcona |
'Cause Evergreen does too much of this: $result = $editor->search_some_object({criterion=>value1,etc=>more})->[0]; |
09:46 |
Dyrcona |
And, hey, an empty barcode causes a nice 'can't derefence an undefined value' error. |
09:59 |
miker |
jeff: I think the bigger problem is ... PHP |
10:02 |
Dyrcona |
heh. |
10:02 |
jeff |
so, success displaying useful and accurate hold information on new self checkout kiosk software version. |
10:03 |
jeff |
my patron of course had an interesting quirk -- two holds on the same bib. |
10:03 |
jeff |
which tripped up the software. |
10:04 |
Dyrcona |
Of course.... |
10:04 |
jeff |
and for some reason i can only get HALF of the client-side "cancel hold" interface to enable. it's possible that i've not enabled server-side bits that may be required for that. wasn't part of the goal for today, i just got curious. :-) |
10:12 |
jeff |
parsing of bills is still not working well. |
10:13 |
jeff |
after working on "here's the fine item details per the supplemental document" and having the vendor come back with "oh, we don't support that", now it turns out that they want to support that. |
10:13 |
jeff |
(their name was on the document i was targeting) |
10:13 |
jeff |
apparently their devs lamented that we lacked predictable delimiters. i explained why. :P |
10:13 |
jeff |
anyway, progress! |
10:23 |
Dyrcona |
Billing is not....fun. |
10:24 |
kmlussier |
Dyrcona: That's a bit of an understatement |
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11:02 |
jeff |
Fixed parsing of bills. Since there only delimiter is space, and we have spaces in our billing types, it requires that we specify every billing type we care about in the format string. |
11:04 |
miker |
jeff: who needs human-friendly strings, really? [answer: not your selfcheck vendor] |
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11:09 |
jeff |
miker: i remember being so happy to see a somewhat sane delimiter scheme in the supplemental doc, then pretty sad when the vendor whose name was on the doc said that their systems couldn't handle that. |
11:09 |
jeff |
so i'm happy and at the same time exasperated to be told by same vendor that they really prefer delimiters now. |
11:10 |
jeff |
NCIP to the left of me, SIP2 to the right, here I am... |
11:13 |
miker |
:) |
11:15 |
Dyrcona |
"stuck in the middle with SIP3." |
11:15 |
Dyrcona |
;) |
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11:46 |
Dyrcona |
Technology sucks. |
11:46 |
Dyrcona |
Ima go raise some goats. |
11:47 |
jeffdavis |
goats++ |
11:50 |
kmlussier |
Dyrcona: I've heard goats are a great natural method for getting rid of poison ivy. |
11:50 |
Dyrcona |
So have I. |
11:51 |
jonadab |
I think you can also use them to get rid of garden plants. |
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11:51 |
kmlussier |
My daughter thought this would be a greaty way to convince me to get a pet goat since I've been complaining a lot lately about the poison ivy I picked up while gardening. |
11:52 |
kmlussier |
If they ate the weeds with the garden plants, I wouldn't complain. |
11:53 |
Dyrcona |
On a more practical note, I think I'll mosey across the street to get some lunch. |
11:53 |
RoganH |
kmlussier: if you get a goat, be warned the male ones pee everywhere |
11:54 |
kmlussier |
RoganH: I'll keep that in mind. |
11:54 |
RoganH |
kmlussier: they like to mark their scent on their faces and then if they like you rub against you to mark you |
11:54 |
* kmlussier |
imagines her neighbors' reaction when they see a goat wandering around in the back yard. |
12:05 |
RoganH |
https://i.imgur.com/PkCqPMq.jpg |
12:05 |
* berick |
chuckles |
12:06 |
berick |
was expecting a goat picture |
12:08 |
RoganH |
No goats. I've interacted with goats enough to not get one. Chickens are great to have, goats are pain. |
12:11 |
csharp |
RoganH++ |
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12:22 |
jeff |
oh isn't that lovely. they're posting credit card payments as cash now. |
12:23 |
jeff |
where "they" are the self checkout kiosks that have recently been upgraded. |
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12:35 |
gsams |
RoganH++ |
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12:37 |
Dyrcona |
jeff: Does Evergreen's SIP2 actually differentiate? You'd think I'd remember having started the code for that. |
12:37 |
jeff |
Yup. |
12:37 |
jeff |
bug 1013263 |
12:37 |
pinesol_green |
Launchpad bug 1013263 in Evergreen "Support SIP payment type 02 - "credit card"" (affected: 1, heat: 6) [Wishlist,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1013263 |
12:39 |
jeff |
i wrote, you tested and signed off, lebbeous committed since neither you nor i could push to master at that point in time. :-) |
12:39 |
jeff |
I seem to recall it was only a few lines of code. |
12:57 |
Dyrcona |
Oh, three years ago... No wonder I don't remember. :) |
13:00 |
kmlussier |
Funny...I tend to recall bugs from 3 years ago better than I remember ones from a month ago. |
13:04 |
jboyer-isl |
So, about pgTAP tests; are we assuming the use of pg_prove, or should test scripts include all of the \pset and \set boilerplate? Only pg_prove is referenced in the documentation but most of our tests have all of the boilerplate, so... |
13:05 |
jboyer-isl |
I'd like to dump the lines we don't need, unless there was a decision that we do need them. |
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13:10 |
RoganH |
I need to invent a SIP wheel of doom so I can spin it each day and see what I think SIP will do today. |
13:15 |
jboyer-isl |
RoganH: My favorite experience was when a PC time management company wrote their own SIP communication library that would recognize field codes ANYWHERE. Made capitalized addresses much more "exciting" because it would also crash when it didn't understand what it was getting. |
13:15 |
jboyer-isl |
No testers like live testers. |
13:15 |
RoganH |
jobyer-isl: I'm not sure if that makes me want to laugh or cry. |
13:16 |
jboyer-isl |
Not having it be my problem made me want to laugh, having written my own SIP parsing library just made me mad about it. (ITS SO EASY, THAT |
13:16 |
jboyer-isl |
'S WHY THE SECURITY IS BAD, SIMPLICITY!) |
13:18 |
tsbere |
I liked the vendor that had their own parser that could only recognize a given field once per message. |
13:18 |
tsbere |
They were.....unhappy when I pointed out that the standard includes repeating fields. |
13:18 |
jboyer-isl |
Hah, and a lot of them, if memory serves. |
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13:20 |
tsbere |
They insisted that I couldn't use a repeating field for what I was using it for because the standard didn't *do* that. Then I pointed them at several in the standards doc they were using... |
13:23 |
jboyer-isl |
Although, come to think of it my toy code didn't take that into account properly either. At least I wasn't trying to charge anyone to use it. |
13:24 |
jeff |
so: tips of the day... a basic AAA membership card behaves enough like a Visa card for smoke testing credit card payments at a self-pay kiosk |
13:24 |
miker |
jeff: nice |
13:24 |
jeff |
and tip 2: if you have someone remoting into a kiosk to work on it and you want the kiosk obviously out of service with screen obscured, grab your nearest clean library T-shirt |
13:25 |
jboyer-isl |
jeff++ # lifehacks |
13:28 |
Dyrcona |
jeff++ #libraryhacks |
13:30 |
miker |
"protect your kiosks with this one weird 'trick'" |
13:30 |
Dyrcona |
heh. |
13:32 |
Dyrcona |
"Well, bother!" said Pooh. "I get 408s from Dell.com." |
13:33 |
Dyrcona |
jeff: Does your AAA card have the American Express prepaid logo on it? Mine does. |
13:34 |
jeff |
mine does not. i know that certain membership levels have the ability to be used as an emergency gas card, etc. |
13:35 |
Dyrcona |
I never put anything on the prepaid bit, so don't use it, but that is a handy tip. |
13:35 |
jeff |
if everything else is working correctly, mine fails with SERV NOT ALLOWED |
13:35 |
Dyrcona |
And, since Dell.com is flaking out on me, I'll have to find something else to do. |
13:36 |
jeff |
which saves me from needing to 1) re-bill my patron / test patron, 2) void the charge before settlement or 3) remove/zero the payment in the ILS if things DO test well. |
13:36 |
jeff |
Once that part works, I usually do a $1.23 or similar payment and consider it the cost of knowing things are working. |
13:37 |
jeff |
(er, to be clear i'd usually have to do 1, 2, AND 3 above, not OR) |
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13:40 |
Dyrcona |
And, I don't see how the 408 could be my fault. I'm not on the wireless at the moment. :) |
13:48 |
* Dyrcona |
mumbles something about "magic beans." |
13:48 |
jboyer-isl |
re: pgTAP, I'm assuming no comment means "sure, do that" and I'll be dropping the noise from my upcoming tests. :) |
13:48 |
bshum |
@dessert add Lemon Cupcakes |
13:48 |
pinesol_green |
bshum: The operation succeeded. Dessert #38 added. |
13:49 |
bshum |
@dessert add Key Lime Cheesecake |
13:49 |
pinesol_green |
bshum: The operation succeeded. Dessert #39 added. |
13:49 |
phasefx |
jboyer-isl: I think the live tester is using pg_prove, but psql should work just as well I thought |
13:50 |
csharp |
@dessert add A Moon Pie and some RC Cola |
13:50 |
pinesol_green |
csharp: The operation succeeded. Dessert #40 added. |
13:51 |
jboyer-isl |
phasefx: The README in the tests dir also only talks about pg_prove, so I figured that's what would see the most use. |
13:52 |
phasefx |
jboyer-isl: cool deal |
13:53 |
phasefx |
jboyer-isl: looks like psql can run them, but pg_prove actually parses and summarizes the test results |
13:54 |
phasefx |
but does that require the boilerplate you mentioned? |
13:55 |
phasefx |
oh I see.. those psets make it look nice if using psql |
13:56 |
phasefx |
could put that stuff into a common file and \i it |
13:56 |
kmlussier |
@dessert 40 csharp |
13:56 |
* pinesol_green |
grabs some A Moon Pie and some RC Cola for csharp |
13:59 |
jboyer-isl |
phasefx: yeah, the boilerplate is just for formatting, pg_prove sets all of that ahead of time. I was hoping to just say "we suggest using pg_prove, so do that" and then we can ignore all of that, simple tests could have 4 necessary lines vs a dozen lines of setup + 4 lines of work. (line # are estimates, of course) |
13:59 |
phasefx |
sounds good to me |
14:01 |
bshum |
@dessert 40 csharp |
14:01 |
* pinesol_green |
grabs some Moon Pie and some RC Cola for csharp |
14:01 |
bshum |
Better :) |
14:02 |
jboyer-isl |
Cool. |
14:05 |
csharp |
bshum: thanks ;-) |
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14:31 |
rfrasur |
Our Exploding Kittens game arrived today including the NSFW deck. It is tres magnifique. |
14:34 |
maryj |
:D |
14:35 |
rfrasur |
(larry.in.gov?) |
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14:46 |
jboyer-isl |
rfrasur: There's a larry, moe, and curly, depending on how our traffic leaves the internal network. (at least someone gets to have fun with machine names around here.) |
14:47 |
rfrasur |
Well, you know I love THAT. |
14:47 |
berick |
i was really hoping for larry, darryl, and darryl |
14:47 |
rfrasur |
berick++ |
14:48 |
jboyer-isl |
berick: I almost said the DNS would be too much trouble to get working, but as long as they're not web servers I bet that could work, heh. |
14:48 |
jboyer-isl |
berick++ |
14:49 |
berick |
:) |
14:49 |
rfrasur |
I wonder if I can justify getting all the expansion packs for Cards Against Humanity including Crabs Adjust Humidity with our collection development policy. |
14:50 |
* phasefx |
can't even say some of the product names in channel without cringing |
14:50 |
Dyrcona |
rfrasur: You're the director, are you not? |
14:51 |
rfrasur |
Dyrcona: I am, but I like to pretend I have more oversight than I do. Fake accountability. |
14:53 |
rfrasur |
Would it be more responsible to get expansion packs for Settlers of Catan...or get some other versions of Munchkin? So many choices that make me job more interesting that making sure all the vouchers are sequential. |
14:54 |
phasefx |
how about more base games? |
14:54 |
rfrasur |
For instance? And don't overestimate what I know about games. Very little. I'm an enabler at best. |
14:54 |
phasefx |
Love Letter is simple and fun |
14:55 |
Dyrcona |
Hanabi! |
14:55 |
rfrasur |
looking them up |
14:55 |
phasefx |
flux |
14:56 |
rfrasur |
I have thought about flux |
14:56 |
phasefx |
qwirkle |
14:56 |
jboyer-isl |
There's even a Fluxx board game now, but we haven't unwrapped it yet to know if it's any good. |
14:56 |
rfrasur |
lol, qwirkle. I'd forgot about that. |
14:57 |
phasefx |
guillotine |
14:57 |
* phasefx |
is thinking of some kid friendly games |
14:57 |
* bshum |
is boring |
14:57 |
rfrasur |
They CAN be kid friendly but don't have to be. |
14:58 |
bshum |
"How about a nice game of chess?" |
14:58 |
phasefx |
dixit |
14:58 |
rfrasur |
Me too, bshum. I just like other people having fun. Oh, but Exploding Kittens is pretty great for a short card game. |
14:58 |
* mmorgan |
reads backscroll, tries to ponder what it all means... |
14:58 |
Dyrcona |
bshum: "No. Let's play Global Thermonuclear War." |
14:58 |
mmorgan |
Each morning on the way to work I pass a house with three goats in the yard. |
14:59 |
jboyer-isl |
Carcassone is also good, though scoring can be complicated. |
14:59 |
mmorgan |
The fence has a sign: Larry, Moe and Curly. |
14:59 |
phasefx |
ratuki (better than slap jack :) |
14:59 |
bshum |
Dyrcona: :) |
14:59 |
rfrasur |
Hmm, we did register for International Games Day and Fluxx is one of the participants. We may wait to see if we get it for free. |
14:59 |
rfrasur |
lol, mmorgan :D |
14:59 |
Dyrcona |
heh. for the goats |
15:00 |
rfrasur |
Oooooh, Qwirkle is what RoganH brought to Cambridge. |
15:00 |
RoganH |
Fun game. |
15:00 |
rfrasur |
Yes, it was. |
15:00 |
RoganH |
Exploding kittens has started shipping so I'm looking forward to getting the decks in. |
15:00 |
phasefx |
We Didn't Playtest This |
15:01 |
rfrasur |
It's cool RoganH. We got ours today. The box for the main game is pretty awesome. |
15:01 |
rfrasur |
lol, Guillotine is funny. You win by getting a head. |
15:02 |
rfrasur |
Ugh, Sushi Go! just makes me hungry. |
15:03 |
rfrasur |
bshum, chess added |
15:03 |
phasefx |
rfrasur: I can rattle off a lot more :) |
15:03 |
rfrasur |
I'm checking them all as you say them. |
15:04 |
* phasefx |
played Clue for the first time recently (past year) |
15:04 |
rfrasur |
I love Clue. |
15:04 |
phasefx |
I had no idea what I had been missing |
15:04 |
rfrasur |
all the murder |
15:04 |
RoganH |
Kill Doctor Lucky |
15:04 |
phasefx |
I haven't played this one, but I'm interested: https://boardgamegeek.com/boardgame/2511/sherlock-holmes-consulting-detective |
15:05 |
RoganH |
It's Clue in reverse. |
15:05 |
* phasefx |
played the firefly version of clue :) |
15:05 |
rfrasur |
jboyer-isl, is Carcassonne similar to Catan as far as gameplay goes? |
15:05 |
RoganH |
phasefx: The Sherlock Holmes game is good. If you get it and like it they're about to reprint the Fury of Dracula and you might like it too. |
15:05 |
phasefx |
RoganH: rock |
15:06 |
RoganH |
rfrasur: no, they play very differently |
15:06 |
rfrasur |
Okay |
15:06 |
RoganH |
rfrasur: but they're both very popular, Carcassone is a tile laying game rather than resource management, the only resource you manage is putting meeples down and hoping you can lay tiles in a way to grab points and get them back to get more points |
15:06 |
jboyer-isl |
Not really. You can only "claim" a tile if you put it down on this turn (easy) but you can also claim fields which then only scores points based on how many completed cities it touches (complicated) |
15:07 |
jeff |
86% of self checkout terminals are upgraded. Phew. |
15:07 |
rfrasur |
Hmm, kinda sounds like Go. |
15:07 |
jboyer-isl |
And there can be points awarded to multiple people when more than one claimed resource become joined into one. |
15:07 |
RoganH |
And there are short versus long term rewards in Carcassone. Do you go for the long value of a field that could pay off big or a complicated city or grab quick road points, etc.... |
15:07 |
* phasefx |
also played candy land recently.. that.. is not a game |
15:08 |
rfrasur |
phasefx, it is if you're VERY young. |
15:08 |
RoganH |
And everything jboyer-isl said is true too. :) OK, maybe I need to bring Carcassone to Raleigh |
15:08 |
phasefx |
rfrasur: if you make your own rules for it :) |
15:08 |
jboyer-isl |
Candy Land is dice-rolling solitaire with a board game visual aide. |
15:08 |
RoganH |
rfrasure: my middle child played Candy Land when she was seven and thought it was awful. But she grew up playing things like Carcassone and Catan. |
15:09 |
kmlussier |
RoganH: Seven is too old for Candy Land. Four is a better age |
15:09 |
rfrasur |
I actually think Candy Land for 3 year olds who are learning to roll dice instead of throwing them and not crying when they don't get the playing piece they really wanted. |
15:09 |
rfrasur |
think Candy Land "is great" that is. |
15:09 |
RoganH |
kmlussier: she was going to a therapist who wanted her to play it. I wasn't involved in this decision. |
15:10 |
jboyer-isl |
RoganH: The iPad version is great for new players because the scoring is automatic. Not as great to pass around the table though. |
15:10 |
rfrasur |
RoganH, bring all the games to NC. |
15:10 |
RoganH |
kmlussier: The therapist asked me where she learned terms like "probability curve" from |
15:10 |
RoganH |
jboyer-isl: agreed, I like it on the iPad too |
15:10 |
RoganH |
rfrasur: I'm driving to Raleigh so I can bring more games :) |
15:11 |
rfrasur |
We're driving too (so mi amor doesn't have to get in a plane and go golfing). |
15:11 |
RoganH |
lol |
15:11 |
* rfrasur |
would rather fly over the mountains than drive through them. |
15:11 |
rfrasur |
oh...and CAN go golfing. |
15:12 |
rfrasur |
I'm just skipping words today. |
15:12 |
rfrasur |
Uh, there's a Batman Love Letter. |
15:13 |
RoganH |
rfrasur: ug |
15:13 |
rfrasur |
We're getting the original...or what looks like the original. Based on The Tempest, I guess? |
15:15 |
RoganH |
rfrasur: it's a vaguely renaissance/medieval setting ... as much as you can depict in a handful of cards |
15:15 |
rfrasur |
Right. |
15:17 |
jwoodard |
Ok I have a dev request for Evergreen. |
15:18 |
jwoodard |
Can we get a built in Chess interface? |
15:18 |
rfrasur |
lol, NO. |
15:18 |
rfrasur |
My staff would get distracted. I would get distracted. |
15:18 |
jwoodard |
...didn't hurt to ask. >_> |
15:18 |
rfrasur |
Truth be, however....if you fund a development project.... |
15:18 |
jeff |
Your account balance is $3.00. Would you like to pay these fines now, or challenge the ILS to a game of chess? |
15:19 |
rfrasur |
EG IS open-source after all. |
15:19 |
phasefx |
rfrasur: we had tetris once, embedded in the staff client |
15:19 |
rfrasur |
jeff++ |
15:19 |
rfrasur |
phasefx, that would be so much worse for me than chess. |
15:19 |
jwoodard |
jeff++ |
15:20 |
phasefx |
rfrasur: it had some developer photos as the background :) they made me remove it |
15:20 |
rfrasur |
We could put it in our development priorities survey for Evergreen Indiana. See if people took it seriously :D |
15:20 |
berick |
$scope.iframe_url = http://www.firstpersontetris.com/ |
15:21 |
* berick |
wipes hands, call it a day |
15:21 |
jboyer-isl |
berick wins. |
15:21 |
jwoodard |
"Run the report Evergreen ILS." " I'm sorry, jwoodard. I'm afraid I can't do that." |
15:21 |
rfrasur |
phasefx++ |
15:21 |
jboyer-isl |
"I would like this report with X, Y, and Z" "The only winning move is not to play." |
15:21 |
rfrasur |
berick++ |
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rfrasur |
jboyer-isl, I can envision how that'd go over with some of our libraries. "I TOLD you reports were evil! The DEVIL, I say! The DEVIL!" |
15:24 |
jeff |
oh. 86% of kiosks are upgraded, but 14% still have a summer reading t-shirt over the top of them. I think I'll go fix that. |
15:24 |
jwoodard |
"I know I've made some very poor decisions recently, but I can give you my complete assurance that my work will be back to normal. I've still got the greatest enthusiasm and confidence in reports. And I want to help you." |
15:24 |
jeff |
Then: lunch. |
15:24 |
rfrasur |
lol, jeff....kiosks with summer reading t-shirts |
15:24 |
berick |
lol at taking them off |
15:25 |
* rfrasur |
laughs |
15:25 |
jeff |
rfrasur: you missed it earlier -- that was our solution for making them unavailable so that they could go through a 1-2 hour upgrade without having to move them off the floor, etc. |
15:25 |
rfrasur |
Oooooooooh. Did you take pictures of people's faces and turn them into face summer reading staff? |
15:25 |
rfrasur |
With captions? |
15:26 |
rfrasur |
It's a very good idea, btw. |
15:26 |
rfrasur |
The shirts...not my ideas. |
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jeffdavis |
hmm, acq.acq_lineitem_history is presumed to exist but there seems to be no CREATE TABLE statement for it in Open-ILS/src/sql/Pg |
15:59 |
Dyrcona |
heh. just an index created on an apparently non-existent table. |
16:00 |
jeffdavis |
I'll create a bug report and push a fix |
16:00 |
Dyrcona |
Hmm. Don't see it in upgrade scripts, either. |
16:00 |
tsbere |
jeffdavis: acq.create_acq_auditor is called with "lineitem" as part of the params... |
16:01 |
tsbere |
I bet that is what makes the table, and probably some views and such |
16:01 |
Dyrcona |
And.....yep. there it is in my schema. |
16:01 |
Dyrcona |
tsbere is probably correct. |
16:02 |
jeffdavis |
ah! yep. |
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jeffdavis |
tsbere++ # thanks |
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tsbere |
Figured I should speak up before it went to Launchpad, given that I figured it was an auditor-style table |
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