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jboyer_laptaupe |
Cool, cool, cool. I forgot this laptop likes to forget how the internet works several times per day. Good thing I work exclusively online... oops. |
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tsbere |
jboyer_laptaupe: Could be worse. For the last few weeks my friend's router has been forgetting that it is supposed to be routing every three hours or so, give or take 10 min. |
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kmlussier |
g'morning |
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kmlussier |
@coffee |
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* pinesol_green |
brews and pours a cup of El Patron Nicaragua Espresso, and sends it sliding down the bar to kmlussier |
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kmlussier |
@coffee [someone] |
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* pinesol_green |
brews and pours a cup of Aricha Selection Seven Ethiopia Yirgacheffe, and sends it sliding down the bar to dbwells |
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jboyer_laptaupe |
tsbere, I'd rather buy a router than a laptop. ;) (Also, I've love it if this thing would go 3 hours. :,( ) |
| 09:07 |
jboyer_laptaupe |
morning kmlussier! |
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jboyer_laptaupe |
(If I'm going to remarking, may as well be sociable.) |
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tsbere |
jboyer_laptaupe: At least your laptop likely doesn't need a factory reset and reconfiguration to get working again. >_> |
| 09:08 |
kmlussier |
jboyer_laptaupe: You're always sociable! :) |
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jboyer_laptaupe |
tsbere, ouch, that is a bit extreme. |
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jboyer_laptaupe |
It may help me though, I suspect it's because I upgraded some chipset drivers. Haven't wanted to burn a full weekend rebuilding it from factory. :/ |
| 09:10 |
tsbere |
jboyer_laptaupe: My friend has ordered parts to build himself a new router from scratch, rather than buy one off the shelf. He figures that way he might have the ability to get log info at least... |
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csharp |
DD-WRT FTW! |
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tsbere |
csharp: That works best when the router has a "replace firmware" option in the first place. He got a *really* cheap one. <_< |
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lualaba |
Hello folk |
| 09:50 |
lualaba |
how to make visible records in opac? |
| 09:50 |
lualaba |
evergreen=# select count(*) from biblio.record_entry; count ------- 8 (1 row) |
| 09:51 |
kmlussier |
lualaba: Have you added items to the records? |
| 09:52 |
lualaba |
do you me barcodes? |
| 09:53 |
lualaba |
i have 4 files and need to import into system (i just import 8 marc record) using mark importer |
| 09:53 |
kmlussier |
lualaba: Yes, I mean call numbers and barcodes. You need to have items/copies on the record before they will be visible in the opac. |
| 09:54 |
kmlussier |
But you should be able to find those records from the staff client even when they are not visible in the opac. |
| 09:54 |
lualaba |
i can also import from file |
| 09:55 |
kmlussier |
lualaba: Yes, you can also import the copies from a file. |
| 09:56 |
lualaba |
my goal is to copy lybrary on other system (i have 4 files: barcodes, catalogers, biblio records) wha tis the best approach? |
| 09:56 |
lualaba |
using staff client or directly ipdate in DB? |
| 09:57 |
lualaba |
i have empty DB |
| 09:58 |
kmlussier |
lualaba: If you can import that data, it will probably be the best approach. But you need more than the barcodes. Each copy also needs a call number, for example. |
| 09:58 |
lualaba |
i have also call numbers |
| 09:58 |
kmlussier |
The documentation I linked to earlier talks about how to get those copies in the system - http://docs.evergreen-ils.org/2.8/_migrating_your_call_numbers_copies_and_parts.html |
| 09:59 |
kmlussier |
lualaba: How many records are in the files you are importing? |
| 09:59 |
lualaba |
now is 10 (but will be 40K) |
| 10:00 |
lualaba |
i need fisrt import biblio records and then orthers? |
| 10:00 |
kmlussier |
For 10 records, you could also import them using the Batch Import in the staff client. For the 40k, you'll want to follow that other documentation. It's way too large to use the staff client. |
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csharp |
tsbere: ah ;-) |
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lualaba |
somewhere i can find step by step instruction with examples? |
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kmlussier |
lualaba: http://docs.evergreen-ils.org/2.8/_migrating_your_bibliographic_records.html and http://docs.evergreen-ils.org/2.8/_migrating_your_call_numbers_copies_and_parts.html are the only step-by-steps I'm aware of. |
| 10:06 |
kmlussier |
lualaba: I would suggest trying to follow those instructions. If you follow the instructions and come across specific problems, the folks in here should be able to help you out. |
| 10:09 |
lualaba |
Thank you |
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dbs |
lualaba: the SQL files in Open-ILS/tests/datasets/sql/ are a kind of evolved version of those docs, albeit with the express purpose of populating dummy data in the database for testing purposes |
| 10:13 |
dbs |
but if you like SQL, it might help you put the pieces together for things like electronic URIs (856 fields), parts, call number prefixes and suffixes, shelving locations, etc |
| 10:16 |
kmlussier |
dbs++ |
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kmlussier |
Is today definitely a point release day? Should I be working on release notes? |
| 11:37 |
bshum |
kmlussier: Actually I was just thinking about that. |
| 11:38 |
bshum |
And there's not a lot on my radar at the moment that requires cutting today. |
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* bshum |
checks with berick |
| 11:39 |
bshum |
Given that I only see doc changes and maybe one bug fix |
| 11:39 |
bshum |
I'm going to say that this might not be an urgent maintenance release. |
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* kmlussier |
didn't see a bug fix |
| 11:39 |
bshum |
And we can wait till next month or something. |
| 11:39 |
kmlussier |
I was just about to look at bug 1204671 |
| 11:39 |
pinesol_green |
Launchpad bug 1204671 in Evergreen "Fund tags are not carried over during fund propagation" (affected: 2, heat: 18) [Medium,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1204671 |
| 11:39 |
bshum |
Or maybe save it towards when the 2.9 alpha happens end of this month. |
| 11:40 |
kmlussier |
But I can't see creating a point release just for that bug fix. |
| 11:40 |
bshum |
In a couple weeks |
| 11:40 |
kmlussier |
I also wanted to make larger changes to the point release notes because I still think the acknowledgements are a bit confusing. If I had a little bit of time to work on that, I wouldn't complain. :) |
| 11:40 |
bshum |
https://bugs.launchpad.net/evergreen/+bug/1465830 was pushed to master, etc. but dbwells set the status back to Confirmed/High because of some issue he saw? |
| 11:40 |
pinesol_green |
Launchpad bug 1465830 in Evergreen 2.7 "presence of relator terms or codes in $e or $4 can prevent authority headings linking" (affected: 3, heat: 16) [High,Confirmed] |
| 11:40 |
bshum |
http://git.evergreen-ils.org/?p=Evergreen.git;a=commit;h=a0ada5bf53c1bb3abe7dfcc11029d380f075d0ec |
| 11:40 |
pinesol_green |
[evergreen|Yamil Suarez] LP#1465830: authority linker now ignores $e and $4 in bib name headings - <http://git.evergreen-ils.org/?p=Evergreen.git;a=commit;h=a0ada5b> |
| 11:41 |
berick |
yeah, i see the same, single bug fix in 2.8: LP#1465830: authority linker now ignores $e and $4 in bib name headings |
| 11:42 |
bshum |
I'm fine with delaying the maintenance cuts this round. |
| 11:42 |
bshum |
Gives us more time to clear the backlog :( |
| 11:42 |
kmlussier |
It looks like that bug should probably be resolved in some fashion before a release is cut. |
| 11:45 |
kmlussier |
Speaking of clearing out the backlog, it looks like we have some signedoff tags for code that hasn't been merged yet. I don't know how many are bug fixes. |
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kmlussier |
The first line of the contributing page on the wiki says: "A major goal of the Evergreen ILS Project is to become a long term, sustainable, community driven development effort. " |
| 13:07 |
kmlussier |
Could I make the argument that, since the time that this page was originally written, we have become a sustainable, community-driven development effort? |
| 13:09 |
bshum |
"A major goal of the Evergreen ILS Project is to continue encouragement of long term, sustainable, community driven development effort." |
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bshum |
:P |
| 13:10 |
kmlussier |
RIght now, I have it as "For the Evergreen ILS Project to continue as a long-term, sustainable, community-driven development effort..." |
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lualaba_ |
Hi, I Run load_all.sql and know i have records in DB, If i generate files like this sql i will able transfer one library to another correct? |
| 13:19 |
lualaba_ |
I have 4 files with data and i will try to modify if please check examples: |
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lualaba_ |
http://paste.evergreen-ils.org/13 |
| 13:20 |
lualaba_ |
i will use load_all.sql + perl scripts (any suggestion?) |
| 13:23 |
jeffdavis |
Ugh, pcrud is giving "transaction begin" errors in our multi-server environment (but not when connected directly to a specific individual EG server, oddly). |
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berick |
jeffdavis: OSRFTranslatorConfig in eg_vhost.conf is the usual cause of that |
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bshum |
Oh good times. |
| 13:27 |
berick |
jeffdavis: oops, i mean OSRFTranslatorCacheServer |
| 13:27 |
berick |
should match your EG memcache server configs |
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jeffdavis |
berick: oho, very interesting, thank you! |
| 13:56 |
gsams |
I'm having a day... Colo center had massive power outage about 7 hours ago, consortium servers are still down... |
| 13:56 |
kmlussier |
Heh. So I just tried the "find" command that's mentioned in the "Before you contribute" section of http://wiki.evergreen-ils.org/doku.php?id=contributing so that I could update the number of lines of code we have in Evergreen. |
| 13:56 |
kmlussier |
Looks like we've gone down since then. I got 873,998. |
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* kmlussier |
decides to round up. |
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* bshum |
feels gsams' pain |
| 13:58 |
kmlussier |
gsams: Sorry to hear it. |
| 13:58 |
kmlussier |
@dessert gsams |
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* pinesol_green |
grabs some Pecan Pie for gsams |
| 13:58 |
gsams |
I'm feeling like a nervous wreck just waiting |
| 13:58 |
gsams |
if it were evergreen troubles, I'd have been in and working on it hours ago |
| 13:59 |
gsams |
kmlussier++ #Pecan Pie happens to be a favorite |
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kmlussier |
Pecan pie makes everything in life better. |
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kmlussier |
bshum gets a higher number than me; https://www.openhub.net/p/evergreen/analyses/latest/languages_summary is lower. I'm going with bshum's higher number of close to 1 million lines of code. |
| 14:08 |
* bshum |
shrugs |
| 14:09 |
* bshum |
likes the openhub stat trend |
| 14:09 |
bshum |
Where JS lines went down April to May |
| 14:09 |
bshum |
Likely because we killed off the scripts :D |
| 14:11 |
* bshum |
wonders how much will go away when we remove selfcheck and jspac code |
| 14:11 |
jeff |
just out of curiosity, what command are you two running? |
| 14:11 |
bshum |
jeff: kmlussier was working off the http://wiki.evergreen-ils.org/doku.php?id=contributing page |
| 14:12 |
kmlussier |
find . -name “*[.pm|.pl|*.py|*.c|*.h|*.sql|*.js|*.xml|*.css|*.html|*.xhtml|*.ac|*.am|*.tt2|*.xul]” -exec cat {} \; | wc -l |
| 14:12 |
bshum |
The "find" command embedded there in the "Before you contribute" section |
| 14:12 |
kmlussier |
I was making some other updates to the page and decided to give it an overall re-read. |
| 14:12 |
bshum |
I wondered if it was grabbing more than it should based on stuff in git |
| 14:13 |
jeff |
yeah, i don't have faith in that command as written. |
| 14:13 |
bshum |
Kind of how I felt when I read it. |
| 14:13 |
bshum |
But I ran it anyways. |
| 14:13 |
berick |
bshum is a rebel |
| 14:14 |
bshum |
And a traitor. |
| 14:14 |
berick |
bshum++ |
| 14:14 |
bshum |
:) |
| 14:15 |
bshum |
Maybe more like git ls-files | xargs cat | wc -l |
| 14:15 |
bshum |
http://stackoverflow.com/questions/4822471/count-number-of-lines-in-a-git-repository |
| 14:15 |
kmlussier |
Should I just go with the openhub number then? I think the idea is to give potential contributors some sense of the scale of the project. |
| 14:15 |
bshum |
Which I get 1887517 lines then |
| 14:15 |
bshum |
:P |
| 14:16 |
tsbere |
git ls-files | grep '^.*\.\(pm\|pl\|py\|c\|h\|sql\|xml\|css\|html\|xhtml\|ac\|am\|tt2\|xul\)$' | xargs cat | wc -l |
| 14:16 |
bshum |
With tsbere's I get 537499 (which is closer to the ohloh number) |
| 14:16 |
csharp |
@praise add You don't want to get mixed up with someone like $who. $who is a loner, Dottie. A rebel. |
| 14:16 |
pinesol_green |
csharp: The operation succeeded. Praise #10 added. |
| 14:16 |
csharp |
@praise 10 bshum |
| 14:16 |
* pinesol_green |
You don't want to get mixed up with someone like bshum. bshum is a loner, Dottie. A rebel. |
| 14:17 |
bshum |
Hahahaha |
| 14:17 |
bshum |
csharp++ |
| 14:18 |
kmlussier |
I get 1887866 with git ls-files | xargs cat | wc -l . bshum and I are very close on that one. |
| 14:18 |
kmlussier |
And 537844 with tsbere's |
| 14:19 |
* kmlussier |
flips a coin. |
| 14:19 |
bshum |
You're on master right? Not any other branch or checkout? |
| 14:19 |
tsbere |
A more "exclude" variant: git ls-files | grep -iv '^.*\.\(po\|jpg\|png\|exe\)$' | xargs cat | wc -l |
| 14:19 |
tsbere |
Hmmm. We have gifs too, don't we |
| 14:20 |
jeff |
yeah. we have jpg, JPG, png, PNG, gif, svg... |
| 14:20 |
bshum |
And ico |
| 14:20 |
tsbere |
Well, the i part of the -iv is "case insensitive", I believe |
| 14:20 |
tsbere |
so we don't have to worry about the case diffs there ;) |
| 14:21 |
jeff |
also js, which the original "find" command included but tsbere's first ls-files did not |
| 14:21 |
tsbere |
What about the .java files? |
| 14:21 |
jeff |
i think we might be focusing on the wrong thing here. :-) |
| 14:22 |
bshum |
Hehe |
| 14:22 |
kmlussier |
yeah |
| 14:22 |
* tsbere |
prefers "exclude the ones we don't want" because of this instead of "include the ones we do want" |
| 14:22 |
* kmlussier |
prefers going with the openhub numbers. :) |
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jeff |
i'm not sure that we need to state a given number of lines for this purpose. |
| 14:27 |
jeff |
if we did, there are lots of tools that can help us come up with a reasonable number, including the one that openhub itself uses: https://github.com/blackducksw/ohcount |
| 14:27 |
gsams |
kmlussier++ #Sounds like the easy option to me! |
| 14:29 |
jeff |
distilling a bit, the paragraph is obviously shorter: |
| 14:29 |
jeff |
> Familiarize yourself with the code. The Evergreen project contains [a large amount] of source code, documentation and data [...]. There is a lot of fairly interdependent code, and contributors must learn what to touch and what not to touch. |
| 14:31 |
jeff |
"must learn what to touch and what not to touch" jumps out as... something, i'm not sure what. |
| 14:31 |
bshum |
Yeah |
| 14:31 |
bshum |
That could use some touchup |
| 14:31 |
bshum |
Or just get dropped. |
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tsbere |
"There is a lot of fairly interdependent code, and contributors must learn how the different pieces interact." |
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kmlussier |
@love DokuWiki |
| 14:55 |
pinesol_green |
kmlussier: The operation succeeded. kmlussier loves DokuWiki. |
| 14:55 |
kmlussier |
Specifically, for remembering the edits I was making when Firefox decided to crash on me. |
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* gsams |
is having a hard time keeping calm and carrying on. |
| 15:27 |
kmlussier |
Still now power? |
| 15:27 |
kmlussier |
That is, no power |
| 15:27 |
gsams |
supposedly power is on, just waiting for them to make it to my ticket and turn the servers back on or something. |
| 15:27 |
gsams |
More frustrating is that I've received no emails about the incident at all |
| 15:28 |
csharp |
gsams: so is the colo far away from you? |
| 15:28 |
gsams |
It's about hour and a half ish on a good day |
| 15:28 |
* bshum |
remembers that place, if it's still the same place. |
| 15:28 |
* mmorgan |
sympathizes with gsams. No power = No fun :-( |
| 15:28 |
csharp |
yowza |
| 15:28 |
gsams |
bshum: same place |
| 15:29 |
gsams |
it's in the heart of dallas more or less |
| 15:29 |
bshum |
Yeah, fun times. |
| 15:29 |
gsams |
I'm actually thinking of making the drive anyway, but I can't get to the server |
| 15:29 |
bshum |
Seems like forever ago now. |
| 15:29 |
* csharp |
remembers power blips about 6.5 years ago that illustrated that our redundant power wasn't actually redundant and kept knocking PINES offline |
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bshum |
Chaos monkeys. |
| 15:29 |
lualaba_ |
hi i try to restore DB |
| 15:30 |
csharp |
that's almost worse than a full outage |
| 15:30 |
lualaba_ |
build-db.sh localhost 5432 evergreen postgres evergreen 9.3.7 |
| 15:30 |
gsams |
csharp: I wouldn't want to deal with random blips, but this is killing me |
| 15:30 |
lualaba_ |
Could not determine the version of PostgreSQL you have installed. Our best * * guess was: (error) |
| 15:31 |
csharp |
lualaba_: does the output of 'sudo dpkg -l | grep postgres' show that it *is* installed? |
| 15:32 |
csharp |
actually, no need for sudo there 'dpkg -l | grep postgres' will be sufficient |
| 15:32 |
lualaba_ |
for sure installed and i have records in DB |
| 15:34 |
csharp |
lualaba_: what is the output of ' psql -qtc 'show server_version;' | xargs | cut -c1,3' |
| 15:35 |
csharp |
lualaba_: you may need to do that as the postgres user |
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gsams |
and spam firewall was blocking emails from the colo center... |
| 15:35 |
gsams |
awesome! |
| 15:36 |
csharp |
yowza |
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lualaba_ |
ii postgresql-9.3 9.3.7-0ubuntu0.14.04 |
| 15:45 |
lualaba_ |
postgre is installed and running |
| 15:59 |
gsams |
And in reply to "things are good, are you still down?", "No, we need a power cycle", "you should email the colo center that you emailed initially, even though we replied to your ticket asking the question." |
| 16:03 |
jeff |
"are you sure you want us to just power cycle these? i hope there aren't SSDs in the servers..." |
| 16:04 |
jeff |
i feel for both you and the folk on the other side. never fun. |
| 16:07 |
gsams |
I've been put on priority apparently |
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lualaba_ |
please help to restore and empty postgre DB |
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lualaba_ |
i got error version is not ok postgre version 9.3 |
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jwoodard |
gsams: Can we just host the server locally? Put in a shed with a window a/c unit. lol |
| 16:23 |
gsams |
I actually have the space to host it, but not necessarily the bandwidth |
| 16:23 |
gsams |
I also have better redundancy apparently |
| 16:24 |
jwoodard |
Granted these things happen once in a blue moon but when they do happen, it hurts. |
| 16:25 |
mmorgan |
We host our servers locally, and recently had two unrelated extended power outages. |
| 16:25 |
mmorgan |
The good news is that we will soon have a standby generator :) |
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gsams |
We have some pretty solid back up power supplies (would last our current servers for a few hours at least) but beyond that we don't have backup generators. |
| 16:29 |
gsams |
I have thought on the idea of locally hosting a few times though |
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pinesol_green |
Incoming from qatests: Test Success - http://testing.evergreen-ils.org/~live/test.html <http://testing.evergreen-ils.org/~live/test.html> |
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Hello i empty DB |
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gsams |
huzzah! It's back up and running! |
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server comes up, takes less than a minute to get service restored. |
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lualaba: I _think_ postgresql 9.3 should be fine for the latest versions of Evergreen, you should be able to just hit return if I recall correctly |
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lualaba: but you shouldn't be using build_db.sh directly; running "eg_db_config --create-schema" (with all the other options of course) will blow away your existing database |
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jwoodard: You handy? |
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Anyone ever get an email regarding Email2SMS not accepting a from address? I'm not sure what might be going on there |
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