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tsbere |
_robbat2|irssi: http://docs.evergreen-ils.org/2.8/_domain_based_content_with_rewritemaps.html |
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tsbere |
_robbat2|irssi: Looked like you had found it anyway, but I figured I would point it out. That is basically how I did things, toned down and with explanations, compared to some of my pastebins that have to be picked apart ;) |
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StomproJ |
/nick stompro |
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StomproJ |
Oops |
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Dyrcona |
Extra space prolly. |
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mmorgan |
Does supercat support a keyword search? |
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miker |
mmorgan: yes, indeed |
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miker |
well, opensearch, but that returns data via supercat |
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miker |
mmorgan: re "Does supercat support a keyword search?" |
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pinesol_green |
All hail the supreme potentate, bshum has arrived! |
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csharp |
@praise bshum |
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* pinesol_green |
Shall I compare bshum to a summer's day? bshum is more lovely and more temperate. |
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Bmagic |
Reminds me of Olaf |
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mmorgan |
miker: Thanks! So how would one construct a link for a keyword search? I have been looking at all the supercat link examples I could find, but don't see a keyword example. |
| 10:48 |
dbs |
mmorgan: look at the source for any catalogue page |
| 10:48 |
dbs |
and you'll see a link for the osd.xml (that's the open search description XML file) |
| 10:48 |
dbs |
e.g. https://laurentian.concat.ca/opac/extras/opensearch/1.1/LUSYS/-/osd.xml |
| 10:49 |
dbs |
which contains templates like <Url type="application/x-marcxml+xml" template="https://laurentian.concat.ca/opac/extras/opensearch/1.1/LUSYS/marcxml/keyword/?searchTerms={searchTerms}&startPage={startPage?}&startIndex={startIndex?}&count={count?}&searchLang={language?}"/> |
| 10:50 |
dbs |
So https://laurentian.concat.ca/opac/extras/opensearch/1.1/LUSYS/marcxml/keyword/?searchTerms=apache+derby is a keyword search for "apache derby" |
| 10:50 |
dbs |
that help? |
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* mmorgan |
takes a look... |
| 10:56 |
mmorgan |
dbs++ |
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mmorgan |
Thanks, that helps a great deal!! |
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kmlussier |
dbs++ |
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tsbere |
_robbat2|irssi: I much prefer the rewrite maps variants I use. Want to add/update? Just update the text files, no touching apache configs (or reloading apache, even) needed. |
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tsbere |
(also keeps the apache config sizes down, for that matter) |
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tsbere |
_robbat2|irssi: I don't set them all with one map. Somewhat intentionally, really. |
| 11:16 |
miker |
dbs: thanks for gathering the opensearch examples! |
| 11:16 |
tsbere |
_robbat2|irssi: You could possibly use a prg map to read the data directly from Hiera |
| 11:19 |
tsbere |
_robbat2|irssi: Said prg would only run once, and constantly get input from stdin for requests, if I recall correctly. |
| 11:19 |
tsbere |
The easy solution there is "make whatever is doing the reading actually pull the individual pieces out for you" ;) |
| 11:20 |
tsbere |
Or, you know, put everything a comma-delimited string and pull pieces out into individual vars after the map spits stuff out |
| 11:20 |
tsbere |
regex can do a lot of fun things like that ;) |
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kmlussier |
Sigh...apparently I already had a set of negative balance use cases posted at http://wiki.evergreen-ils.org/doku.php?id=scratchpad:negative_balances that are not the same as the test cases I shared last week, but are similar enough that I probably didn't need to create 2 pages. |
| 12:20 |
kmlussier |
I don't even remember writing up those notes. |
| 12:20 |
bshum |
kmlussier: Good times :) |
| 12:22 |
kmlussier |
The first page actually has a lot more differences in how libraries might configure their settings, but I can't say I tested all those scenarios. http://wiki.evergreen-ils.org/doku.php?id=qa:billing_test_cases is an accurate reflection of what I tested. |
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Dyrcona |
Too many settings, says the guy who usually solves problems by coding a new setting or three. |
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bshum |
YAOUS+- |
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jboyer-isl |
YOUS-- |
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jboyer-isl |
IRONFIST++ |
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bshum |
jboyer-isl++ # hehe |
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Dyrcona |
:) |
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jeff |
@quote get 46 |
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pinesol_green |
jeff: Quote #46: "<_bott_> I am not a cataloger, but I speak enough MARC to be fun at parties" (added by gmcharlt at 11:43 AM, March 15, 2013) |
| 13:14 |
jeff |
I'm used to a MARC record with a single 100$a having the author name as Smith, John. |
| 13:15 |
jeff |
I notice when applying authorities from within the MARC editor, your 100$a is changed to Smith, John (with no trailing punctuation) |
| 13:16 |
jeff |
Is that a sign of a bad authority record (where it should have the trailing punctuation in the authority record's 100 field? |
| 13:16 |
Dyrcona |
@quote get 46 |
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pinesol_green |
Dyrcona: Quote #46: "<_bott_> I am not a cataloger, but I speak enough MARC to be fun at parties" (added by gmcharlt at 11:43 AM, March 15, 2013) |
| 13:16 |
Dyrcona |
:) |
| 13:17 |
Dyrcona |
Not sure we have too many catalogers in the room. |
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rfrasur |
Err. Lemme check. |
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csharp |
@praise catalogers |
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* pinesol_green |
And catalogers raised the report up on high, saying O Lord, bless this thy circ report, that with it thou mayst blow thine enemies to tiny bits, in thy mercy. |
| 13:18 |
csharp |
(just in case there are any in the room ;-) ) |
| 13:18 |
gmcharlt |
jeff: brace yourself |
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* Dyrcona |
runs off to tilt at commas. |
| 13:19 |
gmcharlt |
jeff: bib and authorities in MARC21 have exactly opposite input conventions for ending punctuation |
| 13:20 |
gmcharlt |
http://memegenerator.net/instance2/646907 |
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rfrasur |
And to be fair...it doesn't matter. It's left over from card catalogs. |
| 13:20 |
Dyrcona |
Of course they do. |
| 13:21 |
miker |
rfrasur++ |
| 13:23 |
rfrasur |
Okay, I couldn't find a definitive answer in less than 2 minutes...so I give up. |
| 13:24 |
* rfrasur |
goes back to accounting...it's less mind numbing. |
| 13:24 |
miker |
rfrasur: your first mistake was thinking there was a definitive answer to a question about ISBD punctuation ;) |
| 13:24 |
rfrasur |
miker++ #yes, you are so right, and now I'm paying the price in dead brain cells. |
| 13:24 |
gmcharlt |
miker: but there is: "do not store it in MARC records!" |
| 13:24 |
jeff |
gmcharlt: so, is it a bug if applying an authority record to a 100 field in a bib results in a change to the bib's ending punctuation? |
| 13:25 |
gmcharlt |
applies to most any question about it! ;) |
| 13:25 |
* rfrasur |
shakes fist at cataloging gods defying their wrath. |
| 13:25 |
gmcharlt |
jeff: reluctantly, I'd say that it can be classified as a bug |
| 13:25 |
rfrasur |
jeff, I think it's a serendipitous joyful happening. |
| 13:26 |
rfrasur |
More...like a ladybug than a hornet. |
| 13:26 |
rfrasur |
Or a firefly. |
| 13:26 |
gmcharlt |
jeff: though it suggests a new bug status for LaunchPad: "We are intentionally engaging in an act of standards disobedience, and you should too" |
| 13:27 |
* Dyrcona |
snickers "Standards." |
| 13:27 |
rfrasur |
Dyrcona++ |
| 13:27 |
Dyrcona |
Anyway, back to the commas... |
| 13:27 |
Dyrcona |
rfrasur++ gmcharlt++ |
| 13:28 |
miker |
hrm... I really want to pull out my +10 WONTFIX warhammer |
| 13:29 |
rfrasur |
On the plus side of it all, there are teens watching Harlock right outside my door. On the negative side, it's in Japanese, which I don't understand, and I can't see the subtitles. Which is probably good because grown up...and board meeting...and balanced ledgers.... |
| 13:29 |
* rfrasur |
is no longer enamored of adulthood. |
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Dyrcona |
adulthood-- |
| 13:30 |
rfrasur |
adulthood-- |
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RoganH |
rfrasur: all stages of life is overrated, what people really want is the self determination of adulthood and lack of responsibility of youth |
| 13:30 |
jeff |
perldoc++ |
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Dyrcona |
RoganH++ |
| 13:30 |
RoganH |
rfrasur: myself included |
| 13:31 |
rfrasur |
and the blissfulness of youth....and the fact that good days are WAY longer when you're young (someday that'll be quantifiable without a whole lot of calculus) |
| 13:31 |
kmlussier |
Hmmm...In Firefox, if I try to access the web client login screen on either webby or on Dyrcona's test server, I get a blank screen below the navigation menu. In Chrome, I can pull up the login page properly on webby, but not on Dyrcona's server. |
| 13:31 |
jeff |
though i'm amused that my environment is resulting in bullets that look like <B7> in my pager... |
| 13:31 |
kmlussier |
Does anyone else have trouble getting to a login page on webby? |
| 13:32 |
jeff |
kmlussier: webby's cert seems to have expired 2015-06-27 |
| 13:32 |
bshum |
Oops |
| 13:32 |
miker |
heh... that'll do it |
| 13:32 |
kmlussier |
jeff: Yeah, Chrome was giving me lots of warnings. |
| 13:32 |
Dyrcona |
kmlussier: Sorry, my dev machine is down at the moment. I reloaded the database yesterday and never finished bringing it back up. |
| 13:32 |
miker |
I'll investigate |
| 13:32 |
kmlussier |
Dyrcona: Ah, ok. That explains it. Same problem, different reasons. :) |
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* kmlussier |
now can't remember why she wanted to log in. |
| 13:34 |
jeff |
i've seen browsers be more strict about websockets certificate errors, leading me to believe that while you might have been able to override the cert error on your initial https connection to webby, websockets connections might still fail due to the expired cert. |
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berick |
kmlussier: go here and click through the cert warning: https://webby.evergreencatalog.com:7682/ |
| 13:37 |
MrMayor |
Hey ladies and gents. I was thumbing through the permissions and didnt see this, so either it doesn't exist or I missed it. Is there a way to deny patrons the right to change their own passwords through the my account area? I'm guessing probably not right? |
| 13:37 |
berick |
that let's websockets connections through for me in Chrome |
| 13:37 |
dbs |
jeff: yeah, I think I've even see Firefox outright refuse to connect to a server with a cert that has a weak Diffie-Hellman key; can't even override it. |
| 13:37 |
dbs |
Our VPN server of course. |
| 13:37 |
berick |
... and firefox |
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Dyrcona |
dbs: That's for you own good. :) |
| 13:38 |
berick |
so, yeah, you have to click through 2 security warnings total for it to work |
| 13:39 |
rfrasur |
RoganH++ #retroactive is better than radioactive unless you're a microwave...which you're not. |
| 13:39 |
kmlussier |
My library doesn't allow me to change my own password (non-Evergreen system), which makes me very angy. |
| 13:39 |
rfrasur |
MrMayor: Not in my experience, but my experience is limited. |
| 13:39 |
kmlussier |
Having said that, MrMayor, I imagine you could do some kind of template toolkit customization to hide that option in the My Account area. |
| 13:39 |
kmlussier |
Keeping in mind that it doesn't encourage safe password practices among your users. |
| 13:40 |
Dyrcona |
MrMayor: Also, not running the trigger runner for password reset emails would stop the emails from going out and thus preventing password change. |
| 13:41 |
dbs |
Dyrcona: The weak DH key? :) |
| 13:41 |
MrMayor |
I'd hate to not be able to change my own password. This was just something I was thinking about as we give out nice, secure passwords to everyone and sometimes they go and change their passwords to something awful. Not very often though. |
| 13:41 |
Dyrcona |
dbs: Firefox not letting use a weak DH key, but yeah. |
| 13:43 |
dbs |
Dyrcona: Yeah. I'm more interested in why our VPN server is so ironically insecure, but whatevs... |
| 13:43 |
MrMayor |
Probably not a good idea anyway as I can easily think of situations where people need to change their passwords. |
| 13:43 |
jeff |
MrMayor: you can set password requirements, if that helps. |
| 13:43 |
jeff |
i.e., "must be at least 10 characters and have at least one letter and one number" |
| 13:44 |
Dyrcona |
"and multibyte UTF-8 sequence" for that matter. |
| 13:44 |
MrMayor |
jeff: Thanks, but we would just give them a new one anyway as soon as we found out so I think I'm just gonna let this idea dies a quiet death. |
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kmlussier |
berick: After clicking through the cert warnings, I'm getting a page not found in Firefox |
| 13:45 |
MrMayor |
Thanks for the help everyone. See you peeps later. |
| 13:47 |
berick |
kmlussier: that's ok, just go back to a regular webby page |
| 13:47 |
berick |
that URL points to the websockets listener, which does not understand the browser request |
| 13:47 |
berick |
but does serve up the cert, allowing the browser to present the click-thru |
| 13:49 |
miker |
mtate++ # certs updated for webby |
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kmlussier |
That did it! |
| 13:51 |
kmlussier |
berick++ |
| 13:51 |
kmlussier |
Or was that the cert update. In that case, mtate++ |
| 13:51 |
miker |
:) |
| 13:52 |
rfrasur |
w00t. All three bank accounts balance with the ledger. |
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kmlussier |
@coffee [someone] |
| 14:30 |
* pinesol_green |
brews and pours a cup of Kenya Karogoto, and sends it sliding down the bar to RoganH |
| 14:30 |
RoganH |
Does pinesol serve it by the pint? |
| 14:32 |
Dyrcona |
@bartender RoganH |
| 14:32 |
* pinesol_green |
fills a pint glass with John Harvard's Commercial Street Christmas Ale, and sends it sliding down the bar to RoganH (http://beeradvocate.com/beer/profile/12/21151/) |
| 14:39 |
rfrasur |
Ooooh, I have a great piece of advice for today. "No matter how tempting that 3 week old brownie in the back of the refrigerator looks, don't eat it. Don't even eat half of it." |
| 14:40 |
* rfrasur |
unfortunately never takes her own advice. |
| 14:40 |
rjackson_isl |
should I say rfrasur ++ or rfrasur -- ? |
| 14:41 |
rfrasur |
Well....n/m. <insert="inappropriate_joke">here</insert>. |
| 14:43 |
rjackson_isl |
reminds me... we have some left over cherry pie from Krogers that isn't 3+ weeks old ;) |
| 14:43 |
rfrasur |
show off |
| 14:44 |
rjackson_isl |
calling whipped cream and whole bean vanilla ice cream |
| 14:45 |
rfrasur |
Oh good grief. Well, hey. It's okay. I no longer actually feel like eating at all after the 1/2 brownie...so I only envy you academically. |
| 14:47 |
rfrasur |
In other news, while I concede that the reports interface has some aesthetic issues, I love how flexible and powerful it is. |
| 14:48 |
* bshum |
wants to drink from the same kool-aid that rfrasur is having, but is afraid. |
| 14:49 |
rfrasur |
Don't be afraid. Just close your eyes. Imagine butterflies and snowcones...and down the hatch. |
| 14:49 |
rjackson_isl |
rfrasur I saw reports and started getting a sinking feeling that you were about to let me know about a "bad" change I had made to the templates/locations |
| 14:49 |
rfrasur |
This particular flavor is named "Oh dear God...board meeting today...all reports are about half done...no worries...I'm superhuman." |
| 14:50 |
* Dyrcona |
just mosied to the cafe across the streat and came back with a root beer and and oatmeal pie. |
| 14:51 |
rfrasur |
rjackson_isl: y'all aren't going to hear me complaining about the reports clean up. And hopefully no one will in my presence either. Y'all have been bustin' your backsides and armchair quarterbacks are annoying. |
| 14:51 |
rfrasur |
Dyrcona: I had a ginger beer this weekend and am still trying to decide what I think of it. |
| 14:51 |
rjackson_isl |
don't worry I made backups (I promise!!!) |
| 14:52 |
rfrasur |
Hah. I don't even CARE if there are backups. People need some incentive to learn how the heck a dbase works. |
| 14:52 |
Dyrcona |
rfrasur: Been a while since I had a ginger beer. |
| 14:53 |
kmlussier |
@love ginger beer |
| 14:53 |
pinesol_green |
kmlussier: The operation succeeded. kmlussier loves ginger beer. |
| 14:53 |
kmlussier |
@loves |
| 14:53 |
pinesol_green |
kmlussier loves parts; YAOUS; Fridays; clam chowder; coffee; new fanged email thing; quassel; magic eightball; trivia; Evergreeners; BBQ; spell check; mobile catalog; new edit links in the catalog; vim; pizza; grep; spring; summer; fall; clam chowdah; and ginger beer |
| 14:53 |
rfrasur |
Dyrcona: I think I might have liked it? But...I'm not sure. I mean, I'm sure I could probably drink six of them without a problem...but I'm not sure if that's a good thing or not. |
| 14:53 |
* rfrasur |
just ate an old brownie. |
| 14:54 |
Dyrcona |
Well, I can say the oatmeal pie was much better than Little Debbie. |
| 14:54 |
rfrasur |
Was it homemade or something? |
| 14:54 |
Dyrcona |
rfrasur: Yes. ;) |
| 14:54 |
rfrasur |
Oooooh. Yum. |
| 14:55 |
Dyrcona |
I don't know if they make 'em at the cafe or get them from a local baker. |
| 14:56 |
rfrasur |
It's a strange thought combo to think about how to make oatmeal pies and the joy of pivot columns. |
| 14:57 |
Dyrcona |
heh. Sounds like there could be an off-beat cook book/technical reference there. |
| 14:58 |
rfrasur |
Sounds like some of bshum's koolaid. |
| 14:58 |
* mmorgan |
would like to see rfrasur turn that into an oatmeal pie chart. |
| 14:58 |
* Dyrcona |
never drinks the koolaid. ;) |
| 14:58 |
Dyrcona |
mmorgan++ |
| 14:59 |
rfrasur |
mmorgan++ #I have no intelligent reply to that. I'm terrible at rendering graphs in Excel. TERRIBLE. |
| 14:59 |
* rfrasur |
thinks about using Publisher to make a mockup. |
| 14:59 |
rfrasur |
I hate board meeting days. |
| 15:02 |
jboyer-isl |
rfrasur: No lie, a lot of people use PowerPoint and Keynote to mock up software UIs. It makes me sad inside. (There are even templates for various buttons, controls, and other window things.) |
| 15:02 |
rfrasur |
jboyer-isl: <dringe> I was completely joking. |
| 15:02 |
jboyer-isl |
But I don't know about using Publisher to mock up a chart. |
| 15:02 |
rfrasur |
cringe even |
| 15:03 |
jboyer-isl |
That's what I thought. ;) |
| 15:03 |
* rfrasur |
is literally cringing. |
| 15:03 |
rfrasur |
There should be a flag on that play. And their keyboards should be confiscated. |
| 15:04 |
rfrasur |
And whoever on my staff checked anything out to a nonresident better hope they no longer work here. |
| 15:04 |
Dyrcona |
I recently saw a video of someone doing mock ups for an Android app using bits of colored paper. |
| 15:04 |
rfrasur |
ugh |
| 15:04 |
Dyrcona |
It appeared to work quite well actually. |
| 15:05 |
jboyer-isl |
Dyrcona: I think manipulating physical scraps of paper like that makes more sense than doing it with a mouse in a presentation program. At least it can be collaborative. |
| 15:06 |
rfrasur |
That...like sticky notes? They're flexible. Using the wrong software when you have the right software RIGHT there? Meh. |
| 15:06 |
jboyer-isl |
(And for an app, a lot of common things will be fixed sizes, so you can have a construction paper app construction kit) |
| 15:06 |
rfrasur |
I was just thinking what tool I could use to make a pie chart and have an actual pie as the background. |
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jboyer-isl |
rfrasur: Excel actually has options for background fill that I think could be coerced into giving you a pie pie chart. |
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rfrasur |
Hmm, I think you're right. I just HATE actually making graphics in Excel....even though I know they're not that hard...but I always think about them after I've set up the information and have to move stuff around more efficiently and it's annoying. |
| 15:12 |
jboyer-isl |
Oh, ho. You can specify a different image per slice. "As you can see here, shares of blueberry is through the roof while rhubarb is in the basement." |
| 15:13 |
jboyer-isl |
Ugh. Are through the roof. I can't English. |
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* rfrasur |
shrugs. Usage rules don't mean much in chat. |
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RoganH |
I only speak two languages, English and Bad English. |
| 15:19 |
rfrasur |
O. M. G. If you fill in the stat cat for a reciprocal borrower...why would you set up their profile type as one? Why? |
| 15:22 |
RoganH |
rfrasur: http://cdn.meme.am/instances/61743618.jpg |
| 15:22 |
rfrasur |
Oh, just doing monthly reports and seeing bad data and tracking down the source to...surprise, surprise...user error. |
| 15:23 |
RoganH |
rfrasur: I was actually referring to the mental state of the person who did said thing. |
| 15:23 |
RoganH |
rfrasur: you asked why after all |
| 15:23 |
rfrasur |
Something that a specific employee (who is no longer employed here) continued to do despite being shown, explained to... |
| 15:23 |
rfrasur |
I wish she'd been confused. I think she was willfully ignorant. |
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| 15:24 |
jeff |
now imagine if you could have a report e-mailed to you nightly with some of these common human errors and discrepancies. a report that -- if there were no discrepancies, didn't bother you with anything. :-) |
| 15:24 |
rfrasur |
And Keanu Reeves is cute. |
| 15:24 |
rfrasur |
jeff: I think that's very possible...but I don't wanna set it up. |
| 15:25 |
jeff |
not sure if it's possible in Evergreen, actually. not without some code changes. |
| 15:25 |
jeff |
that's one of the things we use Jasper for. |
| 15:25 |
rfrasur |
(and the not understanding what "physical address" means compared to "mailing address." Ugh...can't wait til I can ignore this report) |
| 15:25 |
jeff |
to be fair, it's confusingly worded/labeled in places. |
| 15:25 |
jeff |
but if it's a lack of understanding of how you locally use it... |
| 15:25 |
jeff |
bah. |
| 15:26 |
rfrasur |
jeff: hmm. we'll talk in the future about this again. |
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rfrasur |
For a variety of reasons. By the way, what did TADL run before Evergreen? |
| 15:28 |
rfrasur |
As their ILS, that is. |
| 15:31 |
jeff |
something i'd guess you've never heard of. local company. had its roots in software running on an IBM System/36 minicomputer (about 700 lbs). |
| 15:32 |
rfrasur |
Oh. |
| 15:33 |
rfrasur |
I suspect you're right that I've never heard of it. |
| 15:33 |
rfrasur |
I KNOW you're right. |
| 15:33 |
jeff |
amusingly, I've since discovered that SCLENDS ran a common ancestor. |
| 15:33 |
jeff |
or at least one of their members did. |
| 15:34 |
rfrasur |
I'm curious if you or anyone knows of anyone that migrated from Polaris. |
| 15:34 |
jeff |
from Polaris to Evergreen? |
| 15:34 |
rfrasur |
yes |
| 15:35 |
RoganH |
rfrasur: several SC LENDS libraries migrated from Polaris to Evergreen |
| 15:35 |
rfrasur |
What size were they? In a general sense? If you know offhand. |
| 15:36 |
RoganH |
rfrasur: small to medium by SC standards, so 20K bibs to 60K bibs roughly |
| 15:36 |
RoganH |
rfrasur: real small in SC standards is 5K bibs :) |
| 15:36 |
rfrasur |
Hmm. Lemme see how many bibs I'm thinking about. |
| 15:37 |
jeff |
looks like some nccardinal folk used to run polaris |
| 15:37 |
jeff |
some PINES libraries... |
| 15:39 |
jeff |
perhaps some in Indiana also |
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Dyrcona |
rfrasur: I'm curious as to why you ask about Polaris specifically. |
| 15:40 |
jeff |
rfrasur: the data isn't always the most accurate, but http://librarytechnology.org/libraries/ will let you create an account and search by current ILS and previous ILS. |
| 15:42 |
Bmagic |
Those of you using Acq - We have noticed that receiving invoice providers do not match the line items PO providers. It seems to me that the invoice table has a column for provider however, it can contain multiple items that belong to more than one purchase order which can have more than one provider |
| 15:42 |
Bmagic |
I guess my question is: does it matter? |
| 15:42 |
rfrasur |
I'm checking out our state lib statistics. |
| 15:42 |
rfrasur |
jeff, thank you...I forgot about that. |
| 15:47 |
rfrasur |
Dyrcona: Among other things, I'm curious about Polaris because I don't have much knowledge about why a larger library might find incentive to migrate from it to Evergreen. But, I think I have some clearer ideas now. |
| 15:49 |
Dyrcona |
I can think of three letters why, all beginning with 'i'. |
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Dyrcona |
;) |
| 15:49 |
rfrasur |
;) |
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rfrasur |
That actually warms my heart a little. |
| 15:50 |
rfrasur |
In a warped kinda way |
| 15:54 |
RoganH |
rfrasur: honestly all of our Polaris libraries were happy enough with Polaris (at the time). They just wanted to be part of SCLENDS. I think the issue Dyrcona mentions might be a factor now. :) |
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rfrasur |
RoganH: That makes sense. |
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jeff |
well... drat. i can reproduce this error, but only in certain environments. |
| 16:07 |
jeff |
and i thought i had identified the common thread, but then i reproduced it in a third. |
| 16:08 |
jeff |
well, reproduced it in a second class of environment, outside of the set that met the theoretical common criteria. |
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jboyer-isl |
jeff: even a rubber duck might need more detail than that if it's to help with your issue. :) |
| 16:15 |
jeff |
hah |
| 16:16 |
miker |
**quack quack sunspots quack** |
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rfrasur |
(although I hate graphics in Excel, I love basically everything else about it...like how it reads my mind) |
| 16:21 |
miker |
rfrasur: ... knowing how excel does "math", I'm a little, but only a little, frightened by that ;) |
| 16:23 |
jboyer-isl |
rfrasur: You use 3 decimal places to track money and round in unintuitive ways? Eww. |
| 16:26 |
miker |
what is this "IEEE-754" of which you speak? --excel |
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jboyer-isl |
Floating point makes me uneasyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyz |
| 16:36 |
rfrasur |
I prefer creative math anyway. But....I typed "January" in a cell and then pulled it to the right and it populated all the month names. |
| 16:36 |
rfrasur |
:D |
| 16:37 |
rfrasur |
(I also think those rubber popper toys are cool though...so...the bar is low) |
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kmlussier |
I'm about to head out, but wanted to throw a question out there before leaving. |
| 17:01 |
kmlussier |
The "Require at least one address for Patron Registration" OU setting appears to work when doing a new patron registration. It prevents you from clicking the x that removes the address fields from the patron registration form. |
| 17:01 |
kmlussier |
However, when you edit a patron record, there is nothing that stops you from removing all addresses from that record. |
| 17:01 |
kmlussier |
Is that expected behavior? |
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pinesol_green |
Incoming from qatests: Test Success - http://testing.evergreen-ils.org/~live/test.html <http://testing.evergreen-ils.org/~live/test.html> |
| 17:02 |
kmlussier |
I'll leave you all to ponder that question while I sit in afternoon rush hour traffic. :) |
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jwoodard |
My Evergreen question for the day. I am trying to create a Copy Location. I have created it but it is not showing up. |
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jwoodard |
Am I missing a step somewhere in EG? |
| 17:12 |
miker |
jwoodard: in the staff client, like in the copy editor, I assume you mean? you'll want to log out and back in, I believe. I think those are cached at login for the session |
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jwoodard |
miker: ok give me one sec to try that |
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jwoodard |
miker: I had to close out of evergreen completely . I did not do that before. I just logged then back in without closing the program. thks! |
| 17:16 |
miker |
kmlussier: IMO, it's doing what it says on the tin ... restricting "no addresses" at registration. I could see broadening that definition to be "require an address, period", but I'm not certain there's not a use case for removing all addresses from a patron later |
| 17:17 |
miker |
jwoodard: glad that helped |
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* miker |
looks forward to the web staff client where such things won't be a ... thing |
| 17:19 |
jeff |
ah, there we go. |
| 17:19 |
jeff |
bug 1389403 |
| 17:19 |
pinesol_green |
Launchpad bug 1389403 in Evergreen 2.6 "OPAC numeric search's call number search bug with LC call numbers " (affected: 1, heat: 6) [Undecided,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1389403 |
| 17:19 |
jlitrell |
Agreed on the addresses - ran into that lots with commercial sites. If you had an address, but you know they're not there anymore (moved but you don't have the new one), you don't want to keep around an old one just to fill a constraint. Null should be valid after creation. |
| 17:21 |
jeff |
i was hitting the "top-of-tree cnbrowse that does not match an EXACT existing call number fails" symptom. |
| 17:22 |
jeff |
fixed in 2.7.3 |
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gmcharlt |
berick: miker: 1472787 |
| 18:13 |
gmcharlt |
er, bug 1472787 |
| 18:13 |
pinesol_green |
Launchpad bug 1472787 in Evergreen "Web staff client: items out page does not display value of certain columns" (affected: 1, heat: 6) [Medium,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1472787 |
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kmlussier |
jlitrell: In our case, though, we have the ability to set the address to invalid, which also has the side benefit of giving staff a nice alert letting them know the address needs to be updated whenever they access the record. It can also be used to stop users from performing certain functions. |
| 19:25 |
kmlussier |
If you simply remove the address, there are no alerts or changes in the way someone can use the system. |
| 19:27 |
kmlussier |
miker: I'm curious why the move to the web client would change this particular behavior. Is the current behavior a result of some kind of constraint in xul? |
| 19:33 |
miker |
kmlussier: I was referring to the caching of shelving locations :) |
| 19:34 |
kmlussier |
miker: Ah, ok. Gotcha! |
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