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| 06:11 |
devi_ |
hello pipl |
| 06:12 |
devi_ |
can someboy help me with importing data to evergreen? |
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| 08:09 |
devi_ |
I have CSV files and want to import to my Evergreen clean server |
| 08:09 |
devi_ |
how? |
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| 08:28 |
kmlussier |
devi_: You can't import records from a CSV files. You need to import MARC records. |
| 08:29 |
devi_ |
how to obtain MARC records? |
| 08:31 |
kmlussier |
devi_: If you're setting up a test system to see how it works, there is a test dataset called Concerto that can be used. |
| 08:31 |
devi_ |
I have other system with data and want to migrate to new server |
| 08:32 |
kmlussier |
devi_: OK, there is some info in this email thread here, but basically you would be looking to export the records out of your old system into a MARC format. http://markmail.org/message/ojwvigqpldn6wtsg |
| 08:33 |
kmlussier |
devi_: A lot of it depends on what system you were previously using and how easy it is to obtain the records. But most library systems will already have those records in the MARC format. |
| 08:34 |
devi_ |
thank you |
| 08:34 |
kmlussier |
devi_: Once you get those records, you can import them into Evergreen by using the instructions here - http://docs.evergreen-ils.org/2.8/_migrating_from_a_legacy_system.html |
| 08:34 |
kmlussier |
devi_: Or if there is just a small number of records, you can use the staff client to import them -http://docs.evergreen-ils.org/2.8/_importing_materials_in_the_staff_client.html |
| 08:35 |
* kmlussier |
wouldn't recommend using the staff client if you have a large number of records. |
| 08:35 |
devi_ |
ok |
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rjackson_isl |
kmlussier: is it just me or are there problems getting to the docs such as the link you just provided? |
| 08:42 |
kmlussier |
rjackson_isl: It works for me. |
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| 08:53 |
rjackson_isl |
it apears that IOT (state network) is blocking... :( |
| 08:54 |
kmlussier |
rjackson_isl: Ha ha. As it should. You never know what trouble you can get into by reading Evergreen documentation. |
| 08:54 |
rjackson_isl |
really! |
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Dyrcona |
heh |
| 08:57 |
csharp |
@quote add < kmlussier> You never know what trouble you can get into by reading Evergreen documentation. |
| 08:57 |
pinesol_green |
csharp: The operation succeeded. Quote #116 added. |
| 08:58 |
rjackson_isl |
csharp++ kmlussier++ ;) |
| 09:01 |
Dyrcona |
@quote random |
| 09:01 |
pinesol_green |
Dyrcona: Quote #58: "<groucho> Outside of a dog, a book is man's best friend. Inside of a dog, it is too dark to read." (added by Dyrcona at 11:31 AM, June 15, 2013) |
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| 09:28 |
jeff |
after hearing the start of a debate on public radio which touched on what constant distraction does to our brains, i open my work laptop and am greeted by 25 open tabs and a few dozen new messages in my inbox. |
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phasefx |
jeff: and here you are in IRC :) |
| 09:30 |
kmlussier |
No distractions here! |
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kmlussier |
dbwells++ # Diving into negative balance "fun" again. |
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* tsbere |
wonders what it is that causes spammers to love referring to Oprah |
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jboyer-isl |
tsbere, I'm willing to bet that gets a depressingly large number of users to give it more attention. (You get spam, and you get spam, everybody gets spam!) |
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tsbere |
jboyer-isl: I am also amazed at how many spam messages I see that show signs of legitimately coming from yahoo's IOS app. <_< |
| 11:17 |
jboyer-isl |
There are multiple gross things about that statement. spam and yahoo's ios app are both vying for top spot. |
| 11:33 |
Dyrcona |
heh |
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kmlussier |
I think webby might need a kick. I can't log in. |
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| 12:35 |
kmlussier |
@quote random |
| 12:35 |
pinesol_green |
kmlussier: Quote #20: "<bshum> The staff client looks pretty in Armenian" (added by Dyrcona at 09:50 PM, November 16, 2011) |
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bshum |
Heh, it does. |
| 12:46 |
kmlussier |
bshum: I was trying to find the context in which that quote was made, but I couldn't find the original instance of the quote. |
| 12:47 |
Dyrcona |
It might have been in a private conversation. |
| 12:47 |
Dyrcona |
We have a few quotes that lack context in the logs. |
| 12:51 |
kmlussier |
I feel really sad that I haven't had a chance to experience the Armenian staff client yet if it is indeed that pretty. I was hoping I might find a link to a screenshot along with the quote. |
| 12:53 |
bshum |
I don't have a copy of all my IRC logs from that time on this laptop, but Dyrcona is probably right that it was a PM I sent or some other remark. |
| 12:54 |
bshum |
Looking at the log of the day it was added, it was during 2.1's development testing and I think I was testing all the languages for the staff client |
| 12:54 |
bshum |
Trying to figure out an i18n error. |
| 12:54 |
bshum |
That was preventing login or something |
| 12:54 |
bshum |
But I might have gotten my bugs and stories mixed up. |
| 12:57 |
* bshum |
grabs a stock 2.8 client to use to get a screenshot for kmlussier |
| 12:58 |
kmlussier |
bshum: Well, I'm not *that* sad. You don't need to go to the trouble. |
| 12:58 |
bshum |
Ouch |
| 12:58 |
bshum |
Yeah that won't work :) |
| 12:58 |
bshum |
I don't have i18n setup on our servers and it bombs very unhappily trying to log in |
| 12:59 |
bshum |
kmlussier: You can see some of it if you download the stock staff client, and then apply the locale for Armenian to see some of the string translations on the main login window itself. |
| 12:59 |
bshum |
It's just a fancy looking script, I thought. |
| 12:59 |
jeff |
@weather ktvc |
| 12:59 |
kmlussier |
bshum: Thanks! I'll do that the next time I'm in the client. |
| 12:59 |
pinesol_green |
jeff: The current temperature in Traverse City, Michigan is 73.4°F (12:53 PM EDT on May 29, 2015). Conditions: Light Thunderstorms and Rain. Humidity: 73%. Dew Point: 64.4°F. Pressure: 30.01 in 1016 hPa (Rising). |
| 13:00 |
jeff |
pretty sure i left at least two windows open at home. :P |
| 13:01 |
* kmlussier |
got drenched in a thunderstorm yesterday walking from the MVLC office to her car. |
| 13:04 |
* bshum |
carried his umbrella with him all day yesterday and didn't get hit by anything. |
| 13:05 |
bshum |
But my car did get a nice rinse |
| 13:06 |
kmlussier |
I carry my umbrella in my car. Which does me no good when I'm not in my car to start with. |
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| 13:09 |
alynn26 |
kmlussier: https://www.dropbox.com/s/55hq40te0k30rpo/armenian%20staff%20client.jpg?dl=0 here is a pic of the Arminian Staff client. |
| 13:10 |
bshum |
alynn26++ |
| 13:10 |
kmlussier |
Nice! |
| 13:10 |
kmlussier |
alynn26++ |
| 13:12 |
kmlussier |
I find it funny that Z39.50 continues to display the same. |
| 13:15 |
kmlussier |
Would it be fair to say that, in the web client, it will be easier to customize which fields display in places like the record summary and the patron summary? Are those just tt2 files that will need editing? |
| 13:17 |
alynn26 |
The Catalog and Admin Menu items are still in English also. Looking at the actual staff client, there are still some areas that are not translated. |
| 13:21 |
bshum |
alynn26: Yeah, keeping translations updated and synchronized has been... Interesting. |
| 13:21 |
alynn26 |
Most of them were added in 2.5+ |
| 13:25 |
* bshum |
idly wonders if the Armenian libraries upgraded |
| 13:33 |
bshum |
Well, a public server on the web seems to indicate that they're on 2.5.5 or so. |
| 13:33 |
bshum |
Maybe |
| 13:35 |
bshum |
Anywho |
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| 14:31 |
rjackson_isl |
Embarrased to go back to this AM - but our state folks reviewed the docs.evergreen-ils.org time out and indicated everything is fine from within our network. Is their someone at Mowhak College that could review and see if we are being bounced for some reason? |
| 14:31 |
rjackson_isl |
I try an nslookup on 142.222.71.254 and it timesout in 2 seconds |
| 14:31 |
csharp |
http://downforeveryoneorjustme.com/docs.evergreen-ils.org - works for me okay |
| 14:32 |
rjackson_isl |
I get an "It's just you" reply - is that indicating I do have a problem (other than the obvious)? |
| 14:33 |
csharp |
it just means "we can get to it okay" |
| 14:33 |
csharp |
I would suspect bad DNS unless your folks have ruled that out |
| 14:34 |
rjackson_isl |
NEVER! ;) |
| 14:34 |
csharp |
oh - wait - you said it didn't work with IP either |
| 14:34 |
rjackson_isl |
right |
| 14:34 |
csharp |
I can confirm that that IP is just spinning for me too |
| 14:35 |
csharp |
docs.evergreen-ils.org has address 142.222.145.74 |
| 14:35 |
rjackson_isl |
tracert goes from 216.185.64.122 then to the mentioned spinner |
| 14:36 |
csharp |
rjackson_isl: ^^ that's what I get with "host docs.evergreen-ils.org" |
| 14:38 |
montgoc1 |
Is there a way to change hold types (meta, title, etc.) without recreating the hold from scratch? |
| 14:40 |
csharp |
montgoc1: I don't think so |
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| 14:41 |
csharp |
I mean, direct DB change to modify the type, but I have no idea whether that would change anythin |
| 14:41 |
csharp |
g |
| 14:42 |
montgoc1 |
OK. We currently just replace the hold as the new type, alter the date to match the original, and delete the original. |
| 14:44 |
montgoc1 |
I didn't know if I was missing some clever option that streamlined that process. |
| 14:44 |
csharp |
we've trained our folks to default to title hold placement unless there's a specific reason to do otherwise |
| 14:44 |
csharp |
staff place copy and volume holds thinking that will speed things up somehow, but it usually means the patron waits longer when a specific copy goes missing or something |
| 14:45 |
montgoc1 |
I agree. |
| 14:46 |
montgoc1 |
I actually place volume holds for myself to slow things down. |
| 14:46 |
montgoc1 |
I time my holds and hate when I forget to place a volume hold. The book then comes in a day, when I was hoping to have a couple more weeks. |
| 14:48 |
montgoc1 |
I was actually looking at moving some title holds to meta to include both reg print and large print. |
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ohiojoe |
montgoc1: I'd thought about retraining/encouraging the staff to start doing meta holds for most situations where the patron doesn't care exactly which format they would get.. |
| 15:03 |
ohiojoe |
especially large print versus regular |
| 15:04 |
montgoc1 |
The issue is happening when we have a regular print already and a new LP copy comes in. To reduce the list wait time, we'd like to make them all meta holds unless the patron specified a format. |
| 15:06 |
ohiojoe |
Do you think it would workk as desired with DVDs as well? i've noticed that there are times when we have multiple DVD records that by rule, should kind of be kept seperate.. |
| 15:07 |
montgoc1 |
I suppose so. |
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kmlussier |
@dessert |
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* pinesol_green |
grabs some of mllewellyn's Cupcakes for kmlussier |
| 16:26 |
alynn26 |
Everybody have a good weekend. |
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pinesol_green |
Incoming from qatests: Test Success - http://testing.evergreen-ils.org/~live/test.html <http://testing.evergreen-ils.org/~live/test.html> |
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jeff_ |
Bad Friday for he.net / Linode |
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ohiojoe |
So I know it's a massive long shot asking questions in the channel at this hour on a Friday evening, but.. |
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ohiojoe |
Is anybody listening who might know. I'm starting the weekend project of doing my first EG install, and have stumbbled on the prereqs for OpenSRF |
| 22:44 |
ohiojoe |
instruction #2 states to issue the command, in my case of: make -f /src/extras/Makefile.install debian-wheezy |
| 22:44 |
ohiojoe |
however, when I issue this command make returns "*** No rule to make target 'Makefile.install' and stops |
| 22:52 |
ohiojoe |
ah, wait a sec.. I think I just figured out what I was missing.. |
| 23:30 |
jeff_ |
Glad to hear! |
