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| 05:14 |
pinesol_green |
Incoming from qatests: Test Success - http://testing.evergreen-ils.org/~live/test.html <http://testing.evergreen-ils.org/~live/test.html> |
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jeff |
dbs++ and fwiw, the Udemy android app does claim "- You can watch your course offline: Save courses for offline viewing so you can watch them while you're on a plane or subway!" |
| 08:46 |
jeff |
though I fail to see why the app needs `` Allows the app to view one or more of: information about activity on the device, which apps are running, browsing history and bookmarks'' and `` Uses the device's location'' permissions. |
| 08:47 |
jeff |
android_permissions-- |
| 08:48 |
kmlussier |
Good morning #evergreen. Happy conference week! |
| 08:50 |
Stompro |
Good morning, trying to remember to set my OOF message and VM message today. |
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bshum |
Our phone system is evil and hates me. |
| 08:57 |
bshum |
Or I'm just reeeeeeally bad at using our phones. |
| 09:06 |
tsbere |
bshum: Your phone system hates you *because* you are bad at using the phones! ;) |
| 09:07 |
bshum |
tsbere: That must be it. |
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kmlussier |
Huh...:employed by an institution that is contributing to the project by virtue of running Evergreen.' I've always thought that people working in eg libs could vote, but technically they are not employed by an institution *running* Evergreen. |
| 09:46 |
* kmlussier |
missed the original discussion on who could vote in the community and has managed to somehow avoid it for her 3 years on the Board. |
| 09:52 |
tsbere |
kmlussier: I think you could argue that the library is part of the institution running Evergreen in a county system. Massachusetts libraries work the wrong way for that argument. ;) |
| 09:52 |
kmlussier |
Well, there are many different types of consortia in the community. I don't think you could say Massachusetts is unique in that respect. |
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tsbere |
kmlussier: I was using "what I know" as an example. Obviously it isn't going to be the only example. |
| 10:09 |
dbwells |
kmlussier: The wording could be more precise, but I don't think it was meant to exclude the folks you are talking about. I think it is trying to include anyone who has a legitimate stake in Evergreen, and people who use it daily should qualify, in my opinion. |
| 10:11 |
kmlussier |
dbwells: Yes, I agree. I guess I would just like to see more precise language since most of the people on the current Board weren't part of or following along with those early discussions and may not know the intent. |
| 10:11 |
kmlussier |
But I guess that's for the new Board to work on if they feel it's necessary. :) |
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gmcharlt |
kmlussier: FWIW, my memory of the intent is that it was, in effect, using "running" in the sense of "operating an Evergreen installation and/or using it as the institution's production ILS" |
| 10:56 |
kmlussier |
gmcharlt: Thanks! It occurred to me later that I probably was misinterpreting what was meant by "running." |
| 10:56 |
gmcharlt |
"running" in the sense of "turning the crank, and/or providing a crank that can be turned" |
| 10:56 |
kmlussier |
Technically, MassLNC doesn't run or even use a production Evergreen system, but I guess I cover myself with contributions. :) |
| 10:57 |
gmcharlt |
heh, I suppose you do at that ;) |
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* dbs |
wonders if he's registered to vote twice now. hrm |
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kmlussier |
dbs: I don't think it matters as long as you don't vote twice. :) |
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tsbere |
Less than fun: Try and setup a new server and the raid consisting of 500GB drives reports, once made, a max partitionable space of <100MB :( |
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| 13:57 |
bshum |
tsbere: That sounds unfriendly. |
| 13:58 |
tsbere |
I think the problem was an out of date partition table. As the amount partitionable was basically the same size as the "you need to load an OS!" bootloader partition on the first of the drives. |
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| 14:16 |
kmlussier |
@weather 97031 |
| 14:16 |
pinesol_green |
kmlussier: The current temperature in Hood River West, Hood River, Oregon is 53.4°F (11:15 AM PDT on May 11, 2015). Conditions: Overcast. Humidity: 81%. Dew Point: 48.2°F. Pressure: 29.93 in 1013 hPa (Steady). |
| 14:17 |
kmlussier |
@weather 02771 |
| 14:17 |
pinesol_green |
kmlussier: The current temperature in Rumford, East Providence, Rhode Island is 83.8°F (2:10 PM EDT on May 11, 2015). Conditions: Partly Cloudy. Humidity: 56%. Dew Point: 66.2°F. Pressure: 30.07 in 1018 hPa (Falling). |
| 14:17 |
kmlussier |
Wow! That's a 30-degree difference. |
| 14:18 |
* kmlussier |
contemplates packing a scarf. |
| 14:19 |
* jeff |
contemplates packing |
| 14:21 |
kmlussier |
Yeah, the only thing that is even close to being packed here are the cookies. |
| 14:26 |
jeff |
in years past, i've pulled off just a single carry-on. this year i budgeted for a checked bag. |
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bshum |
kmlussier: Cookies! :) |
| 14:33 |
kmlussier |
bshum: Yup! I've been spending my entire workday eating the ones that didn't fit. |
| 14:34 |
* kmlussier |
's kids will be so disappointed when they get home. |
| 14:34 |
bshum |
Hehe |
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dbs |
kmlussier: The cookies didn't fit in your suitcase? They must be *massive*! |
| 14:58 |
kmlussier |
dbs: Well, that would be something, wouldn't it? :) |
| 14:59 |
kmlussier |
They all didn't fit in the two containers that I'll be packing. Hopefully, there will be room remaining for my clothese. |
| 14:59 |
* bshum |
had a giant cookie for a birthday cake once. |
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* dbs |
made a giant pancake shaped as an "adipose" alien (Dr. Who) with blueberry eyes and a mouth, based on instructions from his child, for mother's day |
| 15:12 |
kmlussier |
dbs: Did you take a picture? |
| 15:20 |
dbs |
I didn't, no |
| 15:24 |
berick |
let me know if anyone has anything to add to the state of evergreen development section of the thursday morning state of evergreen update |
| 15:25 |
berick |
it's a ~4 minute slot. going to briefly mention 2.8 stuff, browser client, maybe a few committer stats |
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| 16:02 |
bshum |
berick: Sounds like a good span of four minutes or so. |
| 16:03 |
bshum |
I should play with making a gource of our git work again. |
| 16:05 |
berick |
if I adopt a nice slow southern accent |
| 16:11 |
berick |
hm, there's also a developer update and web client update saturday. |
| 16:12 |
berick |
well, i'll just keep it short and sweet |
| 16:14 |
berick |
c'mon people http://wiki.evergreen-ils.org/doku.php?id=dev:hackfest:eg2015 |
| 16:38 |
kmlussier |
berick: I don't know what you planned to do for committer stats, but I always like to see the names of the new code contributors. |
| 16:39 |
berick |
kmlussier: ok, good to know |
| 16:43 |
berick |
looks like Christine Morgan is the only new code author this time around |
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Stompro |
It looks like Debian Jessie includes libtemplate-plugin-posix-perl, so maybe it no longer needs to be built via CPAN. |
| 16:54 |
Guest28520 |
Stompro: not everyone agrees, but I always want us to rely on repo-based perl deps when possible, so +1 |
| 16:55 |
Guest28520 |
ew |
| 16:55 |
Guest28520 |
@who am I? |
| 16:55 |
pinesol_green |
jonadab_znc am I. |
| 16:55 |
kmlussier |
berick: No, that doesn't sound right. |
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* kmlussier |
checks |
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| 16:56 |
kmlussier |
berick: I usually update http://wiki.evergreen-ils.org/doku.php?id=contributing:contributors. There are a few more names there over the past year, but a couple may have been late-adds. |
| 16:56 |
pinesol_green |
Incoming from qatests: Test Success - http://testing.evergreen-ils.org/~live/test.html <http://testing.evergreen-ils.org/~live/test.html> |
| 16:57 |
Stompro |
csharp, I would like to help with the debian packaging work, I saw you added that to the dev hackfest page of proposals. |
| 16:57 |
csharp |
Stompro++ # awesome! I'm excited to hear that |
| 16:58 |
Stompro |
It looks like there are only 3 cpan modules left, Business::OnlinePayment::Paypal, Business::Stripe and Class::DBI::Frozen::301... I've been reading up on debian perl packaging, I wonder if packaging needed bugs have been filed for those 3 yet? |
| 16:58 |
csharp |
Stompro: I'm in the process of cleaning up our internal deb-building scripts (which are not Debian-standards-compliant) and making them more generic |
| 16:59 |
berick |
kmlussier: interesting.. ok. i'll check the recent additions |
| 17:00 |
Stompro |
Oh, and the libemail-send-perl which needs to get replaced... it is no longer available in Jessie. |
| 17:01 |
Stompro |
I'm guessing that to have a chance at having an official evergreen debian package that all the dependancies would need to be packaged also. |
| 17:02 |
csharp |
Stompro: doesn't looke like they are sponsored yet, but there may be another source of information I don't know about: https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/pkgreport.cgi?pkg=sponsorship-requests;dist=unstable |
| 17:03 |
csharp |
Stompro: I'd love to compare notes on the perl packaging process - I've just been using dh-make-perl |
| 17:03 |
csharp |
Stompro: this is where I've been working most recently: http://git.evergreen-ils.org/?p=contrib/pines/eg-debian.git;a=summary |
| 17:04 |
csharp |
http://git.evergreen-ils.org/?p=contrib/pines/eg-debian.git;a=blob;f=README;h=e88d013fce09eb8ff13cac70f781ef82e8f0e0d8;hb=HEAD is the README |
| 17:05 |
berick |
kmlussier: the last three additions (suzanne paterno, michele morgan, and terran) all had commits in 2.7 |
| 17:06 |
Stompro |
csharp, Oh, I don't know very much at this point, I was just doing some googling and saw some general steps for how to start the process at http://pkg-perl.alioth.debian.org/howto/RFP.html |
| 17:06 |
berick |
looking at.. http://wiki.evergreen-ils.org/doku.php?id=contributing:contributors&do=revisions |
| 17:06 |
kmlussier |
berick: Ah, ok. I was thinking the highlights would be for new contributors since the last conference. :) |
| 17:06 |
berick |
kmlussier: oh, well, i hadn't thought of that |
| 17:06 |
Stompro |
csharp, so I don't have many notes to compare. |
| 17:06 |
berick |
kmlussier: i like that better :) |
| 17:07 |
* berick |
was being to literal re: 2.8 |
| 17:07 |
berick |
er, too |
| 17:07 |
berick |
kmlussier++ |
| 17:07 |
kmlussier |
berick: Side benefit is it takes up more of the four minutes. :) |
| 17:08 |
berick |
exactly! |
| 17:08 |
csharp |
Stompro: this is where I got started (also using examples from Josh and Andy's work for the PINES-specific debs for GenaSYS (http://git.evergreen-ils.org/?p=contrib/pines/genasys.git;a=summary)): https://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/maint-guide/index.en.html |
| 17:08 |
csharp |
berick++ # slow southern accent |
| 17:10 |
* csharp |
is reminded of the sheriff in the Monster Plantation ride at Six Flags |
| 17:10 |
csharp |
"this way out, folks, this way out. Stay out of the marsh!" |
| 17:10 |
Stompro |
csharp, I don't know if my flights are long enought to get though that... I wonder if there is a kindle version. |
| 17:11 |
csharp |
heh - you might be able to find a PDF somewhere |
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| 17:11 |
csharp |
Stompro: hey! here it is: https://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/maint-guide/maint-guide.en.pdf |
| 17:12 |
csharp |
@praise the google |
| 17:12 |
* pinesol_green |
Shall I compare the google to a summer's day? the google is more lovely and more temperate. |
| 17:13 |
Stompro |
csharp, sending to kindle now, thanks |
| 17:13 |
csharp |
:-) |
| 17:14 |
berick |
kmlussier: interestingly.. this is the list of authors whose first commit occured after the 2014 conference: http://pastie.org/private/ftlixti2ejnep97ukzn1g |
| 17:14 |
berick |
kmlussier: curious if that seem reasonable to you |
| 17:15 |
berick |
(or anyone else) |
| 17:15 |
berick |
spot-checked a few and they seem to check out |
| 17:15 |
kmlussier |
I suspect some of those are doc commits. I don't know if that makes a difference. |
| 17:16 |
berick |
probably |
| 17:16 |
kmlussier |
Heh, Hekman Library Technology Team |
| 17:17 |
kmlussier |
berick: I guess it depends on how you want to handle it. If you wanted to focus on strictly code commits, I would be happy to higlight doc contributions during my piece. Or you could take them all. :) |
| 17:17 |
kmlussier |
Wait, what is my piece supposed to be focused on again? |
| 17:18 |
kmlussier |
Outreach and initiatives. hmmmm |
| 17:19 |
berick |
kmlussier: i'd prefer to list them all, but not if I'm taking away from your part |
| 17:19 |
kmlussier |
berick: That sounds fine to me. I've got plenty I can talk about. |
| 17:20 |
berick |
cool |
| 17:21 |
Stompro |
Night all, Looking forward to the conference, my flight is at 6am tomorrow morning, I should go pack. |
| 17:22 |
berick |
safe trip, Stompro |
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