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02:58 * dbs going a bit nuts trying to use Acq; funds show up in Batch Update fund picker scoped to our OU, but won't show up in the line item details fund picker when I try to add a copy.
03:00 dbs http://i.imgur.com/tqfTD4Q.png?1
03:01 * dbs wonders if maybe everyone using acquisitions is using funds at the Consortium level
03:11 dbs If I create a purchase order from the selection list, however, then I can select the Fund at the individual copy level
03:11 dbs which makes me think that the selector isn't expected to actually select the fund. hmm.
03:15 dbs Interesting. So in our workflow, the selectors generally say what they want to order, and what fund to apply that order to, but the acq people figure out the provider (Amazon, B&T, whatever)
03:17 dbs Looks like you have to choose the provider when you create the PO, then you can choose the fund, but that's the opposite of our workflow.
03:17 dbs And looks like there's no way to change the provider after the PO is created but before it is activated.
03:19 dbs I guesss for Coutts at least we can try to make Load MARC Order Records work; then focus on the one-offs for the non-Coutts orders
03:19 dbs Should be a fun session with our acq people tomorrow
07:17 csharp dbs: yeah - the OU scoping for different acq things is confusing to our libraries too
07:18 csharp the funds are owned by individual branches, but the orders are all placed at the system level (iirc) and that creates confusion for everyone (including vendors)
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08:33 dbs sitka++ # http://docs.sitka.bclibraries.ca/Acq/cu​rrent/pdf/Sitka_Acquisitions_Manual.pdf - some pretty thorough docs there
08:35 dbs One of the main things that was really confusing me was the presence of the Fund field on the Selection List - copies line, even though you can't do anything with it.
08:37 csharp dbs: we have a part-time person here who has been diving deep into acq... if you're interested in connecting with her, please let me know
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08:39 dbs thanks csharp!
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08:40 dbs I went over acq admin with our admin people last week, am introducing ordering to our technicians this morning
08:40 csharp cool
08:40 csharp I'll be interested in how it all goes
08:40 dbs Bar should be low: make ordering less painful than updating a big old spreadsheet + local fields in each MARC record along with the actual provider site
08:40 dbs we'll see.
08:40 csharp we're piloting one (maybe two) libraries for acquisitions in the coming months
08:42 csharp the biggest headache I've had to deal with is EDI setup (and specifically FTP) because when it fails there's not a straightforward way to re-do things
08:42 csharp and of course, the Ruby bits
08:45 dbs no plans for EDI here in the near future. Loading MARC Order Records is likely though.
08:45 csharp that has been an adventure for us too, having little practical vandelay experience
08:46 bshum Better than it used to be anyways ;)
08:47 bshum Unrelated, I didn't get to cutting a new maintenance release of 2.7 yesterday by the calendar.  The day ended up a bit more exciting in other areas.
08:48 bshum Hoping to take a look at pulling a few fixes in before the next cut.
08:49 bshum I'll likely aim to put together a 2.7.3 this evening.
08:49 bshum So fix, fix away
08:51 dbs highly critical fixes like <table> <table> ? :)
08:52 bshum dbs: super important! :D
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08:55 * csharp only sees 4 new commits in rel_2_7, one of which he's already applied to 2.7.2
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08:56 bshum csharp: Like I said, need to merge more stuff.
08:56 csharp ah, gotcha
08:57 bshum If you look at the actual milestone, there's a lot of targeted bugs. I need to go through them all and decide if they continue to remain targeted, push fixes, or leave for next milestone.
08:58 bshum https://launchpad.net/evergreen/+milestone/2.7.3
08:58 bshum And that's not including any wildcards that have yet to be targeted for backports
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09:00 * csharp agrees with berick: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ever​green/+bug/1386347/comments/13
09:00 pinesol_green Launchpad bug 1386347 in Evergreen 2.6 "Speed up hold copy map deletion for clear shelf process, etc." (affected: 1, heat: 6) [Undecided,New]
09:05 csharp dbs: or eeevil: for bug 1206936, does the suggested change in comment #7 supercede my "use window functions" branch and solve the original problem?
09:05 pinesol_green Launchpad bug 1206936 in Evergreen "money.transaction_billing_summary view displays incorrect billing_type and billing_note for the actual last transaction" (affected: 1, heat: 6) [High,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1206936
09:05 * csharp hasn't tested, jsyk
09:07 tsbere jeff: Regarding differences in default notification formats: TPac (pipe, prefers email, then phone, then sms) vs old JSPac entries (dunno) vs Patron Editor (colon, prefers phone, then email, then sms)
09:10 jeff tsbere: thanks. i had suspected as such, and started to compare new/old patron editors vs tpac -- thought i saw in tpac that it was colon-delimited, just with a different order. guess i'll have to re-look.
09:14 bshum csharp: On bug 1386347, I was leaning towards removing the milestone from that, since nobody seems to be championing it for backport presently.
09:14 pinesol_green Launchpad bug 1386347 in Evergreen 2.6 "Speed up hold copy map deletion for clear shelf process, etc." (affected: 1, heat: 6) [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1386347
09:14 csharp bshum: +1
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09:23 Dyrcona Well the first commit on the collab branch has been running in production since about 8:00 pm last night.
09:24 Dyrcona If anyone else wants to jump in, just say what service you're looking at.
09:28 jboyer-isl I had a question about the various services. Is the intention for there to always be pcrud and cstore (and qstore? I don't know what uses that off hand) or is this the middle of a transition where pcrud is old and broken and cstore is the new hotness?
09:30 tsbere jboyer-isl: As I understand it, cstore is "backend, no auth needed" and pcrud is "frontend, auth needed". rstore is a reporting(?) version of cstore. qstore is unrelated.
09:31 jboyer-isl ok, so likely they're all going to be around long-term. Thanks tsbere.
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09:45 dbs csharp: we're using the #7 recommendation in production here
09:46 csharp dbs: excellent - thanks
09:49 dbs I guess we should really go ahead and create a whole new set of views that way
09:50 dbs jboyer-isl: on qstore: https://bugs.launchpad.net/evergreen/+bug/1077212
09:50 pinesol_green Launchpad bug 1077212 in Evergreen "add qstore to eg_db_config.pl --update-config list" (affected: 1, heat: 6) [Undecided,Incomplete]
09:51 dbs (the discussion goes decidedly in a different direction from the bug title)
09:51 bshum I thought qstore was dead?
09:51 bshum I guess I already thought we started ripping it out.  But I guess maybe I was wrong on that.
09:52 tsbere Wait, was it ever in use to begin with?
09:52 dbs was never in use in Evergreen
09:53 dbs It's just an extra attack vector / resource consumer if turned on. Kind of like an appendix.
09:54 bshum Right, it's not an activeapp anymore right?
09:54 bshum Or ever
09:54 bshum I guess
09:55 bshum Oh, I see, I'm mixing it up with the ingest thing that we also yanked out.  Nevermind, my confusion has ended.  :(
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09:56 jeff heh
09:59 jboyer-isl It appears my confusion on the qstore front is because it's still in opensrf.xml, but it's not in any of the service lists in opensrf_core.xml. So it's not on, but it's not really gone, either.
10:01 Dyrcona jboyer-isl: AFAIK, nothing at all uses qstore.
10:02 Dyrcona The code code be removed, but no one has bothered.
10:02 Dyrcona If you have it still configured to start, you should turn it off.
10:03 Dyrcona And I should have read what everyone else said before replying.
10:04 Dyrcona Too bad we can't set a bug's status to deprecated.... I'd be inclined to set that bug to invalid and create a new one to rip qstore out.
10:05 bshum "won't fix"
10:05 bshum i.e. not in project plans
10:05 jboyer-isl Invalid + new bug sounds like a fine plan to me. Maybe a comment could be dropped in the bug before it's closed for software archaeologists.
10:06 jboyer-isl O, what bshum said. :)
10:08 Dyrcona Yeah, +1 to won't fix.
10:09 Dyrcona I'll do it later and file a bug for ripping out qstore, but I've got some other things I should do, first.
10:19 * eeevil would hate to see qstore go away ... it's meant to support batch operations. but if it gets ripped out, it should be done in one fell swoop (please), so the commit can be reverted if it's needed later
10:22 Dyrcona Hmm. Then maybe we should make use of qstore for batch operations instead of what we do now?
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10:22 Dyrcona Would it be efficient enough to stop timeouts when doing things from large copy and bib buckets?
10:35 Dyrcona Grr. GoogleDrive/Docs/whatever-they-call-it-this-month is interfering the behavior of select and middle click in X.
10:36 Dyrcona I select something in the document, and middle click in another document and it does not paste what I selected.
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10:41 eeevil Dyrcona: I noticed the selection change in gdocs too... I had to start ctl-c'ing , which is dumb
10:42 Dyrcona Yep.
10:43 eeevil and, re qstore, it's just part of the puzzle, but yes. the idea was to let it manage batch change setup and supply completion state information for a polling UI to refresh regularly.  it also has a "remember old state" feature, IIRC, so you can say "hey, that named changeset that I ran a month ago to move copies to another branch? yeah, undo that now."
10:46 * eeevil looks under the couch cushions for tuits
10:47 Dyrcona eeevil: That sounds pretty cool. We already set a table up to store temporary copy changes, like moving stuff to/from Summer Reading copy locs and so on.
11:03 csharp since upgrading, we are no longer able to place "unfillable holds" - it gets to the screen where it says " You have permission to override some of the failed holds. Click Submit to override and place your hold on the selected items.", but clicking submit returns us to the bib record page with no further information
11:03 csharp we can't seem to track what that "submit" button is supposed to be doing
11:03 csharp we're on 2.7.2
11:05 mmorgan Hmm. Haven't heard that from our libraries - and I think we would have if it were a problem here.
11:06 csharp nevermind - it was a local commit that was keeping it from working
11:16 eeevil csharp: was it something others might run into?
11:44 kmlussier It's odd. I've never come across the problem where some users can't log into webby using Firefox, but I still hear reports of it from our users.
11:45 kmlussier I thought I might run into it when I switched to a new laptop.
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11:52 eeevil kmlussier: could it be noscript or the like, or an old version?
11:53 kmlussier The person who reported it said she was using Firefox 35. She enters the login information, but it just sits there.
11:53 kmlussier I know it was a known problem at one point.
11:54 bshum kmlussier: Is it a websocket problem maybe
11:54 bshum Like the ports aren't open on their end
11:54 * bshum is not sure how far gmcharlt has gotten with websocket configuration on webby or elsewhere
11:56 bshum kmlussier: If they open their web console
11:56 bshum They can check for errors
11:57 bshum Ignoring of course the check for 8443/hatch
11:57 bshum But if they were getting blocked on the websocket port, it might show up there as an unresponsive, or failure to connect
11:59 tsbere eeevil++ # Pointing out space delimination in the WWW::Proxy modules and causing me to notice I had missed a bug in the version of my code I had pushed to working
11:59 eeevil tsbere++ # fixin' stuffs
11:59 eeevil and that auth module looks good
12:00 kmlussier bshum: If it were an issue where the port is blocked, wouldn't they have come across it in Chrome too?
12:01 tsbere eeevil: Tis a combination of "basic auth that only accepts usernames is bad for patron access" and "WWW::Proxy::Authen may be broken in newer versions of Apache due to them changing the API a bit, so I needed to figure out how to do things differently"
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12:04 bshum kmlussier: Probably right.
12:04 bshum Maybe their firefox is configured differently.
12:05 tsbere uneducated user of adblock or noscript?
12:07 kmlussier berick: I was talking to some folks at NOBLE yesterday, and they have some minor catalog customizations we were thinking would be nice additions to the core code
12:08 kmlussier berick: I know we're passed the milestone targeting deadline, but if they created the LP bugs now, would they still have a chance of making it into 2.8?
12:08 kmlussier I was planning to work with them next week to get the code into a git branch.
12:08 berick kmlussier: yes, that's fine.
12:09 kmlussier berick: Thanks! I'll let them know.
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12:54 csharp eeevil: nope - it happened because we commented out the code for the checkbox in place_hold_result.tt2
12:54 csharp @who would be fool enough to do that?
12:54 pinesol_green dbwells would be fool enough to do that.
12:55 dbwells sounds about right
12:55 csharp heh
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13:18 phasefx_ hrmm, just noticed the live tester has been broken since the 12th.. skeletal output
13:22 Dyrcona Just thought I'd follow up on yesterday's conversation about CStoreEditor.
13:22 Dyrcona I loaded a branch on my development vm that has the CStoreEditor DESTROY method issue a warning.
13:23 Dyrcona I then did some stuff, like run action_trigger_runner.
13:25 Dyrcona The destructor is getting called.
13:25 Dyrcona So, theoretically, CStoreEditor should not really be causing issues.
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13:51 dbs so much for removing timeout=60 from the SIP config. now the self-check randomly hangs while accessing patron records
13:51 * dbs is going to roll back to a 2009-era version of SIPServer
13:51 bshum :(
13:53 csharp dbs: that's what we did pre-emptively after hearing about some of your trouble
13:54 * csharp *cough* we need SIPServer versioned releases *cough* *cough*
13:59 bshum @gitrehash
13:59 pinesol_green bshum: The operation succeeded.
14:00 bshum @git repolist
14:00 pinesol_green bshum: evergreen (Evergreen, branch: master)
14:00 pinesol_green bshum: opensrf (OpenSRF, branch: master)
14:00 pinesol_green bshum: evergreen_website (Evergreen Website, branch: master)
14:00 pinesol_green bshum: sipserver (SIPServer, branch: master)
14:00 bshum And now we have SIPServer :)
14:00 bshum So that I can do something like cd4551366fba4c30ad434b0c58432f2d6ff081cc
14:00 pinesol_green [sipserver|Thomas Berezansky] LP#1227273: Clear account info at start and end of connection - <http://git.evergreen-ils.org/?p=​SIPServer.git;a=commit;h=cd45513>
14:01 bshum That's the last commit our SIPServer is up to running apparently.
14:01 bshum It was before the timeout stuff and the multiplex stuff
14:25 pinesol_green Incoming from qatests: Test Success - http://testing.evergreen-ils.org/~live/test.html <http://testing.evergreen-ils.org/~live/test.html>
14:46 Stompro Is creating read only postgres access really as difficult as it seems to be?  Needing to run a command for every schema individually?
14:50 bshum Stompro: I believe that's how we had to do it in the past.
14:50 bshum And actually I think we even went further and specified it table by table in some cases.
14:51 bshum So we had to grant usage for the schemas
14:51 bshum And then grant select on each table
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14:52 bshum But it's been awhile since we toyed with that whole thing.  Awhile, meaning, that's the way we rolled back in PG 8.3 days
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14:53 jeffdavis Stompro: http://pastebin.com/aGqNKUYU <- you can "automate" the grant usage/grant select commands
14:54 bshum jeffdavis++
14:54 Stompro Thanks Jeff, jeffdavis++
14:55 jeffdavis You may wish to adjust the WHERE clauses if there are other tables you don't want your read-only user to have access to, of course.
14:58 kmlussier dbwells: We loaded collab/dbwells/1198465_cstore_fines_gen in our dev environment (we being Dyrcona). However, we're getting the following when starting up the client: Method [open-ils.circ.circ_modifier.retrieve.all] not found for OpenILS::Application::Circ
14:58 jeffdavis Oh, and to be clear that just outputs the commands that you need to run, it doesn't actually run them. You can put the output in a script and run that.
15:04 collum Stompro: here's a quick way to find out what schema.tables a user has the 'select' privilege on.  http://pastebin.com/PmSKmM7k  Just change 'username' in the script to the user.
15:05 jeff kmlussier: first thing I check in that scenario is for syntax errors in OpenILS/Application/Circ.pm
15:07 Dyrcona jeff: We did that, and if there were syntax errors that bublle up to Circ.pm, circ would not start.
15:07 Dyrcona open-ils.circ started.
15:07 jeff got it.
15:16 Stompro collum++ thanks for code.
15:24 kmlussier bshum: For bug 1078593, I actually have been meaning to take a look at that again and probably sign off on it.
15:24 pinesol_green Launchpad bug 1078593 in Evergreen "serials: deleting an issuance does not update the basic summary statement" (affected: 4, heat: 22) [Medium,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1078593 - Assigned to Dan Wells (dbw2)
15:25 bshum kmlussier: Sure, whatever you guys decide :)  I was just moving it out of my way on 2.7.3 work
15:25 kmlussier So I could make a comment on the bug saying just that and assign it to myself. :)
15:25 bshum If it is actually ready, we can always add it in there before I cut.
15:25 kmlussier You're cutting today?
15:26 bshum I was hoping to cut this evening, but can wait a bit if needed.
15:26 bshum We're already a day behind the scheduled date, but that hasn't stopped us before :\
15:28 kmlussier bshum: It shouldn't take me long to look at it again. The problem is all of the other stuff I have on my plate today.
15:30 kmlussier But if you wait until tomorrow, I can also look at that Lost and Paid bug too.
15:31 Dyrcona kmlussier: I've loaded the branch on my dev system already, so feel free to toggle settings on there if you want.
15:31 dbwells kmlussier: rats, sorry.  Probably a merge error I made of some kind when getting it into the branch.  I loaded the branch earlier on my test box, but haven't gotten back to it yet.  I'll get it fixed.
15:31 Dyrcona The lost and paid fix branch, that is.
15:31 kmlussier dbwells++ Great, thanks!
15:32 bshum kmlussier: That's fine, I can wait to cut tomorrow.
15:32 pinesol_green [evergreen|Chris Sharp] LP#1310619: Add links in reporter.classic_item_list to legacy_cat1 and legacy_cat2 views. - <http://git.evergreen-ils.org/?p=​Evergreen.git;a=commit;h=9b2ec17>
15:32 pinesol_green [evergreen|Chris Sharp] LP#1310619: Changing relationship between rcil and legacy stat cats to "might_have". - <http://git.evergreen-ils.org/?p=​Evergreen.git;a=commit;h=4ffe7d6>
15:32 bshum That'll give me more time to slack off, err...... I mean review and commit more fixes.
15:32 bshum :D
15:33 Dyrcona heh
15:34 kmlussier For some reason, the words "slack off" don't come to mind when I think of bshum.
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15:34 Dyrcona bshum: Do you want me to back port lp 1398926 to 2.7 when I push it?
15:34 pinesol_green Launchpad bug 1398926 in Evergreen "Symbol Overlay only works on pre-existing entry fields" (affected: 1, heat: 6) [Medium,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1398926
15:35 bshum Dyrcona: Sure, I don't see why not.
15:35 Dyrcona It could probably go to 2.6 also.
15:35 bshum Do me a favor though and edit the commit message to include the LP#
15:35 Dyrcona OK. I'll do that.
15:35 bshum Thanks :)
15:35 Dyrcona I think he made the branch before the LP bug.
15:36 pinesol_green [evergreen|Josh Stompro] LP 1373197: fixed default "Get Help With Evergreen" link. - <http://git.evergreen-ils.org/?p=​Evergreen.git;a=commit;h=05f86c8>
15:36 pinesol_green [evergreen|Josh Stompro] LP 1372197: Fixed another link to evergreen-ils.org that changed. - <http://git.evergreen-ils.org/?p=​Evergreen.git;a=commit;h=3a5aa33>
15:37 bshum Dyrcona: Yeah that's no problem.  I just like to try including the LP# in the commit for tracking purposes now.
15:38 bshum It has been surprisingly useful when learning more about a given changeset.
15:38 Dyrcona Any particular format?
15:38 jeff heh
15:39 * jeff is partial to "LP#number Commit short msg here"
15:40 Dyrcona Yep, that's what I did, since most commits follow that pattern.
15:40 jeff but that might just be because most of my terminals select the digits and not the LP# when i double-click the digits.
15:40 bshum What jeff said works.  Sometimes people do LP#number: (with a colon at the end)
15:40 pinesol_green [evergreen|Thomas Berezansky] LP#1398926: Allow symbol popup to trigger on new marc fields - <http://git.evergreen-ils.org/?p=​Evergreen.git;a=commit;h=8196546>
15:40 Dyrcona I added the colon.
15:40 jeff and a trailing colon wastes a precious character :-)
15:40 Dyrcona Well, there, you can see.
15:40 jeff heh
15:40 Dyrcona A trailing colon sounds painful.
15:41 bshum Damn, missed the # in the previous commits
15:41 jeff but not as many wasted characters as LP#number - Commit description here
15:41 bshum I need to finish poking at the ilbot config
15:43 Dyrcona I need to test phasefx_'s marc_export changes. Probably won't get to it today.
15:44 Dyrcona They won't go into 2.7 anyway.
15:48 pinesol_green [evergreen|Bill Erickson] LP#1407171 Avoid DEFLATEing fm_IDL.xml - <http://git.evergreen-ils.org/?p=​Evergreen.git;a=commit;h=112b270>
15:50 pinesol_green [evergreen|Ben Shum] LP#1373594: Also ignore subfield 7 in get_graphics_880s - <http://git.evergreen-ils.org/?p=​Evergreen.git;a=commit;h=67999a6>
15:52 pinesol_green [evergreen|Dan Scott] LP#1413490 Fix <table><table> markup - <http://git.evergreen-ils.org/?p=​Evergreen.git;a=commit;h=9436b7c>
15:57 bshum remingtron: I was looking at your final changes in https://bugs.launchpad.net/evergreen/+bug/1396161 and just checking on the thinking for removal of osrf-config from the example entries
15:57 pinesol_green Launchpad bug 1396161 in Evergreen "action_trigger_runner.pl documentation update" (affected: 1, heat: 8) [Undecided,Confirmed]
15:57 bshum It's cause that's already the default, but should we keep that in the help info for people who might have it live elsewhere for some reason?
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16:14 dbwells kmlussier: Dyrcona: I missed one added and two deleted lines in my merging (or unmerging, as the case may be).  It seems happier now at my end, so I force pushed over the same branch (collab/dbwells/1198465_cstore_fines_gen).  Thanks for the early testing!
16:14 kmlussier dbwells++
16:18 Dyrcona kmlussier: I can load the revised branch if you want to look at it tomorrow.
16:18 remingtron bshum: I think the help info should be enough as is, since the config setting is the first option listed. But I don't have strong feelings either way.
16:18 Dyrcona I'm off tomorrow, so otherwise it would have to wait until Saturday.
16:18 kmlussier Dyrcona: Yes, I think I'll have time to look at it after my meeting tomorrow, so that will be great if you could load it now.
16:18 Dyrcona Will do.
16:19 bshum remingtron: Works for me, I'll go ahead and push all that on through momentarily then :)
16:20 tsbere berick: I am told that I should check with you about including https://bugs.launchpad.net/evergreen/+bug/1413624 in 2.8 before I mark it as 2.next instead. Any thoughts one way or the other?
16:20 pinesol_green Launchpad bug 1413624 in Evergreen "New AccessHandler Module" (affected: 1, heat: 8) [Undecided,New]
16:20 bshum remingtron++
16:20 remingtron bshum++ #thanks for keeping things moving!
16:23 kmlussier Does anyone recall off the top of their heads when the WCAG work was incorporated in Evergreen?
16:24 pinesol_green [evergreen|Josh Stompro] LP#1396161: action_trigger_runner.pl documentation update - <http://git.evergreen-ils.org/?p=​Evergreen.git;a=commit;h=82bb117>
16:24 pinesol_green [evergreen|Remington Steed] LP#1396161: Improve public docs and change osrf-config default from script help - <http://git.evergreen-ils.org/?p=​Evergreen.git;a=commit;h=d445150>
16:24 bshum kmlussier: I want to say 2.6
16:24 jeff kmlussier: commit 598267d contains the release notes -- i think it was 2.6
16:24 pinesol_green [evergreen|Dan Scott] Release notes for WCAG compliance for the TPAC - <http://git.evergreen-ils.org/?p=​Evergreen.git;a=commit;h=598267d>
16:25 bshum And http://evergreen-ils.org/documentat​ion/release/RELEASE_NOTES_2_6.html agrees with me
16:25 kmlussier bshum++ jeff++ Thanks!
16:26 Dyrcona kmlussier: The branch has been installed and services restarted.
16:26 jeff are the -developer and -packager makefile targets intended to never be both installed?
16:28 bshum jeff: I thought developer was a subunit of packager.  Meaning if you ask for packager, it'll also call the stuff in developer.
16:28 bshum Something weird going on?
16:28 jeff i suppose that would have been the obvious thing for me to check.
16:29 Dyrcona bshum: I notice you're pushing a lot of stuff to 2.6 also. Should I push the symbols popup fix branch to 2.6? I guess it is also a question for dbwells.
16:29 bshum So I wouldn't expect a problem to call either or
16:30 jeff bshum: install_packager calls install_developer, you are correct.
16:30 bshum Dyrcona: Most of the things I end up pushing to 2.7 tend to be either tiny or broken things.  I usually save dbwells the trouble of pushing it to rel_2_6 on his behalf, but I could change that if he'd prefer to push it himself :)
16:31 kmlussier Dyrcona++ Thank you!
16:31 jeff bshum: so trying to install debian-wheezy-packager target after installing debian-wheezy-developer results in an error because it tries to clone the node git repo a second time.
16:31 bshum If it was me, I wouldn't hold off on backporting if it's indeed a bug fix.
16:32 bshum jeff: Ahh..... I primarily tested the Ubuntu side of things, and those are all packages.
16:32 bshum So it doesn't usually clobber itself, it'll just add whatever packages it's still missing.
16:32 * jeff nods
16:32 bshum jeff++ # may want to file that a new bug then for 2.8 series.
16:33 bshum Darn Wheezy
16:33 bshum :)
16:33 jeff might be as simple as clarifying the README (assuming it isn't already clear and I misread) to point out that it's either-or, not both.
16:35 bshum jeff: Ideally I think it ought to handle both.
16:35 bshum Meaning if I start off with the developer package, but want to grow up to be a packager on behalf of the project, it shouldn't blow up on me.
16:35 * jeff nods
16:43 bshum jeff: I wonder if we added some sort of check to see if the node directory was already cloned
16:43 bshum Or existing I mean
16:43 bshum And if so, move on
16:43 dbwells Dyrcona: If a fix for 2.7 also applies to 2.6, please feel free to push it in.  Does that answer your question, or did I misunderstand?
16:44 Dyrcona dbwells; That answers the question. I didn't want to step on RM toes.
16:44 bshum jeff: Course then the next step after that to checkout the branch would fail too, cause the branch would already be checked out...
16:44 bshum Hmm
16:45 bshum Maybe like the install_libdbi thing before install_nodejs_from_source
16:45 bshum Where we look for the folder, if not present, get it, etc.
16:45 dbwells I think whoever does the testing should go ahead and push to all applicable branches.  The fact that bshum is an RM and also tests a bunch of things just confuses the situation ;)
16:46 * bshum either has lots of hats or lots of heads.
16:46 bshum Possibly both.
16:47 bshum jeff: That's of course all from Makefile.common I'm curiously looking at.
16:49 Dyrcona dbwells kmlussier: I'm still getting the error with the branch installed. I even made sure to git fetch before making a new branch.
16:49 Dyrcona I don't have time to mess with it much today.
16:50 pinesol_green [evergreen|Dan Scott] LP#1409844: Towards more meaningful catalogue <title> elements - <http://git.evergreen-ils.org/?p=​Evergreen.git;a=commit;h=eda58b7>
16:53 dbwells Dyrcona: I'm sorry it's probably still some problem on my end.  Or maybe you just did a 'git fetch' and not 'git fetch working'?  Again, the problem is probably my fault, so just a suggestion.
16:53 Dyrcona No, it's me. I fucked my git branches.
16:54 bshum "Closing time, James."
16:54 Dyrcona Yep, it's too late in the day to fix this now.
16:55 Dyrcona I'll just build a new vm on Saturday or Monday.
16:55 kmlussier Dyrcona: Thanks for trying!
16:55 * kmlussier calls it a day
16:56 pinesol_green Incoming from qatests: Test Success - http://testing.evergreen-ils.org/~live/test.html <http://testing.evergreen-ils.org/~live/test.html>
17:01 berick tsbere: re: bug 1413624, if you hope to get it merged into 2.8, go ahead and target 2.8-beta
17:01 pinesol_green Launchpad bug 1413624 in Evergreen "New AccessHandler Module" (affected: 1, heat: 8) [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1413624
17:02 eeevil dbwells: I've been terribly remiss in not looking at your cstore-fine-gen code ... I'm wondering what the reason for that is? (the use of cstore instead of dbi in the storage app, in particular) ... but, I think I've found a problem in any case. it looks like penalty calculation is being called before the cstore->commit is called
17:03 eeevil so, fine-oriented penalties won't have fresh data...
17:06 eeevil dbwells: well, you can ignore the first part, really
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17:10 dbwells eeevil: Thanks for looking at it.  I'll check out what your saying about the penalty calc, and thank goodness I don't have to relive how I arrived at this path.
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17:12 berick dbwells: in a nutshell, "make it possible to run the whole circ shebang, including fine generation, in a single transaction" ?
17:15 dbwells berick: yep, that's the gist.  Just don't ask me why, at least not this late in the day :)
17:16 dbwells although, it's starting to come back to me
17:16 berick i have a pretty good idea why, at least in part.. I won't ask you to re-live it :)
17:23 dbwells eeevil: yep, I see what you mean.  I think it'll be easy enough to fix for the backwards compat calls, but penalty generation will have to become responsibility of any code passing in their own transaction.
17:26 dbwells eeevil++
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