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Bmagic |
@coffee |
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* pinesol_green |
brews and pours a cup of El Salvador Pacamara Finca Los Alpes The Bank, and sends it sliding down the bar to Bmagic |
| 10:19 |
Bmagic |
mmmmmmm, doughnuts |
| 10:21 |
bshum |
Bmagic: Oh, great.... now I want doughnuts too :( |
| 10:21 |
Bmagic |
haha! |
| 10:22 |
* kmlussier |
has Christmas cookies in close proximity to her desk. |
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* mmorgan |
has sampled kmlussier's Christmas cookies. Yum :) |
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RoganH |
I brought brownies into work today for staff. |
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kmlussier |
RoganH++ |
| 10:52 |
kmlussier |
It's too bad we can't share all these treats through the channel. |
| 10:58 |
remingtron |
kmlussier: someday we'll have a 3D fax machine |
| 10:59 |
kmlussier |
remingtron: Yes, and someday we'll be able to flavor the paper to taste like my chocolate mint cookies. |
| 10:59 |
kmlussier |
Or maybe we should just focus on the replicators. |
| 11:01 |
remingtron |
"Oh man! Who printed their reports on my chocolate paper?!" |
| 11:05 |
tsbere |
remingtron: Well, that would make it nicer when you decide someone needs to eat the report for security/privacy reasons. ;) |
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| 11:47 |
bshum |
berick++ # I'm testing https://bugs.launchpad.net/evergreen/+bug/1392759 to get a new build system setup today to roll releases. |
| 11:47 |
pinesol_green |
Launchpad bug 1392759 in Evergreen "Developer/Packager Makefile.install targets" (affected: 1, heat: 6) [Wishlist,New] |
| 11:49 |
bshum |
berick: As a side question, I can see that there's a distinction made between "developer" and "packager" in the Makefile |
| 11:49 |
bshum |
I assume I should also run the developer one so that when we go to build the release including the web client stuff, that it'll have the necessary deps in place |
| 11:50 |
berick |
bshum: yes. |
| 11:50 |
berick |
maybe "packager" should include "developer" within the makefile |
| 11:50 |
bshum |
Hmm |
| 11:50 |
bshum |
Could be handy |
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| 11:53 |
bshum |
berick: In my own notes for i18n, I have two more packages that I ended up installing to make the i18n dance work |
| 11:54 |
bshum |
libtemplate-perl and liblocale-maketext-lexicon-perl |
| 11:54 |
bshum |
For 14.04 anyways. |
| 11:54 |
berick |
bshum: ah, ok, i'll push a patch to include those and include developer w/i packager |
| 11:54 |
bshum |
berick++ # sweet :) |
| 11:55 |
bshum |
And might I say, I love this super handy addition for future release setup. :D |
| 11:57 |
berick |
great, glad it's helping |
| 11:59 |
* bshum |
goes and rolls 2.7.2 to test and see if everything installed right in his new building environment. |
| 12:04 |
berick |
bshum: hm, are you building on a machine that does not have EG installed? |
| 12:04 |
berick |
just curious about the lack of libtemplate-perl and liblocale-maketext-lexicon-perl |
| 12:04 |
bshum |
berick: Yep, I already found a quirk. |
| 12:04 |
bshum |
Not having autoconf, etc. |
| 12:04 |
bshum |
Yeah, maybe those come with a system that has everything |
| 12:05 |
berick |
they do |
| 12:05 |
bshum |
Or have the other prereq's for Evergreen |
| 12:05 |
berick |
EG uses them |
| 12:05 |
bshum |
Gotcha. |
| 12:05 |
eeevil |
berick: have you had a chance to look further at your https://bugs.launchpad.net/evergreen/+bug/1373690 ? |
| 12:05 |
pinesol_green |
Launchpad bug 1373690 in Evergreen "Direct EDI generation for ACQ orders -- AKA kill ruby webrick" (affected: 1, heat: 8) [Undecided,New] - Assigned to Bill Erickson (erickson-esilibrary) |
| 12:05 |
* bshum |
doesn't usually run Evergreen on his laptop directly. |
| 12:06 |
Dyrcona |
bshum: I find you have install a bit more stuff when you build a vm using the Ubuntu vmbuilder scripts. |
| 12:07 |
berick |
eeevil: not since the hackfest. it's on my mental todo list, but not sure when I can return to it. it was almost done, IIRC, minus the final merge prep |
| 12:07 |
eeevil |
oh, cool |
| 12:07 |
eeevil |
the "not for human eyes" scared me :) |
| 12:09 |
berick |
heh, yeah, well EDI rarely is, i guess |
| 12:09 |
eeevil |
that's fair |
| 12:09 |
Dyrcona |
berick eeevil: I might be able to scare up someone who would be willing to test it with a vendor, but probably not until after the New Year. |
| 12:09 |
berick |
bshum: if you come up w/ a list of prereqs for non-EG-installed machines, we can add them to the makefile target |
| 12:09 |
berick |
Dyrcona++ |
| 12:09 |
eeevil |
Dyrcona++ # indeed |
| 12:09 |
berick |
i'll try to give it some eyes soon, then |
| 12:10 |
berick |
bshum: hmm, but you have to build EG to create packages.. so you're goign to need most of the prereqs |
| 12:11 |
bshum |
berick: That's a good question. I don't usually install the EG pre-req's. Or at least I haven't been doing so regularly. |
| 12:11 |
bshum |
I just get the basics in there |
| 12:13 |
berick |
hmm, ok, yeah, when it runs ./configure it's using --disable-blah, so i'm wrong. you don't need most |
| 12:13 |
berick |
ignore that last comment :) |
| 12:13 |
bshum |
:P |
| 12:13 |
berick |
bshum: ok, so back to where I started, I'm happy to extend the 'packager' target to accommodate non-EG-installed systems |
| 12:14 |
bshum |
berick++ # it's pretty close I think; I'll know more once I get a successful tarball build out. |
| 12:14 |
berick |
cool |
| 12:20 |
Dyrcona |
bshum: If before you were talking about installing the Evergreen libs and what-not on your laptop in "client" mode, it's probably not a good idea. |
| 12:21 |
Dyrcona |
Most of it doesn't work without changes on the Evergreen to allow private router access, and then you wouldn't want to allow that from outside your LAN. |
| 12:22 |
Dyrcona |
"on the Evergreen" should probably be "on the ejabberd server" |
| 12:24 |
* Dyrcona |
runs off to microwave his pie. |
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| 12:37 |
mmorgan |
Anybody successfully overridden "COPY_NOT_AVAILABLE" in selfcheck? |
| 12:37 |
mmorgan |
I have circ.selfcheck.auto_override_checkout_events set as ["COPY_ALERT_MESSAGE","COPY_NOT_AVAILABLE"] |
| 12:37 |
mmorgan |
The copy alert part works fine, but trying to check out a not available copy just hangs. |
| 12:38 |
mmorgan |
The log is telling me: circulator: bailing out with events: COPY_NOT_AVAILABLE |
| 12:38 |
Dyrcona |
Does the self check circ user have COPY_NOT_AVAILABLE.override permission? |
| 12:39 |
Dyrcona |
Didn't look to see if COPY_NOT_AVAILABLE is overridable, btw. That just comes to mind, though. |
| 12:40 |
mmorgan |
Yes, the user has that permission. |
| 12:48 |
mmorgan |
I swear the selfcheck/status thing worked when I originally tested, but it's not working now :-( |
| 12:49 |
Dyrcona |
Well, the log messages suggest that either the user doesn't have the permission or the override check is not being done for that event. |
| 12:52 |
mmorgan |
Here are a few more lines from the log. |
| 12:52 |
mmorgan |
[2014-12-17 12:22:11] open-ils.circ [INFO:38527:Circulate.pm:1170:14185563064613121] circulator: permit_patron script returned events: HASH(0x2ea13a8) |
| 12:52 |
mmorgan |
[2014-12-17 12:22:11] open-ils.circ [INFO:38527:Circulate.pm:631:14185563064613121] circulator: pushing event COPY_NOT_AVAILABLE |
| 12:52 |
mmorgan |
[2014-12-17 12:22:11] open-ils.circ [INFO:38527:Circulate.pm:1377:14185563064613121] circulator: permit_copy script returned events: HASH(0x5c63db8) |
| 12:52 |
mmorgan |
[2014-12-17 12:22:11] open-ils.circ [INFO:38527:Circulate.pm:631:14185563064613121] circulator: pushing event COPY_NOT_AVAILABLE |
| 12:52 |
mmorgan |
[2014-12-17 12:22:11] open-ils.circ [INFO:38527:Circulate.pm:617:14185563064613121] circulator: BAILING OUT |
| 12:52 |
mmorgan |
[2014-12-17 12:22:11] open-ils.circ [INFO:38527:Circulate.pm:343:14185563064613121] circulator: bailing out with events: COPY_NOT_AVAILABLE |
| 12:52 |
mmorgan |
Sorry for the mess :-( |
| 13:00 |
gmcharlt |
EG web team meeting starting in a couple minutes |
| 13:03 |
gmcharlt |
#start_meeting Evergreen Web Team meeting, 17 December 2014 |
| 13:03 |
gmcharlt |
#startmeeting Evergreen Web Team meeting, 17 December 2014 |
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pinesol_green |
Meeting started Wed Dec 17 13:03:29 2014 US/Eastern. The chair is gmcharlt. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. |
| 13:03 |
pinesol_green |
Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic. |
| 13:03 |
pinesol_green |
The meeting name has been set to 'evergreen_web_team_meeting__17_december_2014' |
| 13:03 |
gmcharlt |
#info Agenda is http://wiki.evergreen-ils.org/doku.php?id=webteam:meetings:agenda:2014-12-17 |
| 13:03 |
gmcharlt |
#topic Roll call |
| 13:03 |
gmcharlt |
#info Galen Charlton, ESI |
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kmlussier |
#info Kathy Lussier, MassLNC |
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jeff |
#info Jeff Godin, TADL |
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RoganH |
#info Rogan Hamby, SCLENDS |
| 13:05 |
gmcharlt |
thanks |
| 13:05 |
RoganH |
And I'll be in and out of paying attention as I have something else going on at the same time (a reference materials meeting). |
| 13:05 |
gmcharlt |
I will need to keep this meeting short today, so let's just focus on highlights, please |
| 13:05 |
gmcharlt |
#topic Action items from previous meetings |
| 13:06 |
gmcharlt |
I've had very little time, what with crossing the continent, so first... |
| 13:06 |
gmcharlt |
#action (carry-over) gmcharlt will coordinate/assist with dbs to move the planet |
| 13:07 |
gmcharlt |
#action (carry-over) gmcharlt with work with DIG to get a test VM for doc-building set up |
| 13:07 |
gmcharlt |
#action gmcharlt will follow up with ericar re libraries roster and LP instructions page |
| 13:07 |
gmcharlt |
#action gmcharlt will tweak the “learn more” buttons shortly |
| 13:07 |
gmcharlt |
#action (carry-over) gmcharlt will coordinate with the EOB regarding the trademark policy page |
| 13:08 |
gmcharlt |
kmlussier: could you talk about your action items as well as the current status of the conference registration & events plugin? |
| 13:08 |
kmlussier |
I'll get the easy one out of the way first. |
| 13:09 |
kmlussier |
#info kmlussier has applied updates to the Getting Started page. The page now contains sections for testing code and funding projects. |
| 13:09 |
kmlussier |
I haven't worked on the action item to bring over previous conference materials, because I have been focusing on getting an event registration solution for this year's conference. |
| 13:10 |
kmlussier |
Mainly because it looks like we won't be able to get continued sponsorship to get Eventbrite fees, but also because I think it would be good if we didn't have to send our info to a third party. |
| 13:11 |
kmlussier |
I looked at a couple of plug-ins. The one that looks like it would work best for our conference is the Pro version of events manager. |
| 13:11 |
kmlussier |
#link http://wp-events-plugin.com/ |
| 13:12 |
kmlussier |
At this point, there are 2 things that could delay the conference registration. 1) we still are waiting for the venue contract to be signed. |
| 13:12 |
kmlussier |
And the SFC has concers about this plug-in because it isn't fully licensed as GPL. |
| 13:13 |
kmlussier |
I'm still waiting to hear back from them on those concerns. |
| 13:14 |
kmlussier |
My preference is to use it because I think it's a better solution to using Eventbrite. |
| 13:14 |
gmcharlt |
thanks for the update |
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gmcharlt |
I believe that phasefx has completed the update the FAQs page |
| 13:15 |
gmcharlt |
phasefx: correct? |
| 13:15 |
phasefx |
correct |
| 13:15 |
gmcharlt |
#info update of the FAQs page by phasefx is complete |
| 13:15 |
gmcharlt |
phasefx++ |
| 13:15 |
gmcharlt |
kmlussier++ |
| 13:16 |
phasefx |
related, yamil has put together some vendor-related faq's, linked off of the vendor page |
| 13:16 |
* phasefx |
is using "vendor" as short-hand, of course :) |
| 13:17 |
gmcharlt |
thanks |
| 13:18 |
gmcharlt |
on a different note, I believe that the test of the jobs plugin that RoganH did was a success |
| 13:18 |
gmcharlt |
so I think next steps are to get the jobs listing pages linked up |
| 13:19 |
gmcharlt |
and publicize their existance |
| 13:19 |
kmlussier |
Yay! RoganH++ |
| 13:20 |
gmcharlt |
#info Jobs plugin installed and tested; now needs to be linked to navigation and publicized |
| 13:20 |
gmcharlt |
in system administration news... |
| 13:21 |
gmcharlt |
#info Galen has updated dokuwiki after a security release |
| 13:21 |
gmcharlt |
#action jeff will upgrade the web server to Squeeze LTS |
| 13:23 |
bshum |
gmcharlt++ jeff++ |
| 13:23 |
gmcharlt |
so at this point, except for potentially some minor maintenance tasks and possibly installation of the events manager plugin |
| 13:23 |
gmcharlt |
we'll be in a holding pattern until next year |
| 13:24 |
gmcharlt |
(and gah -- is it really almost 2015? why was only six months allocated to 2014?!?!) |
| 13:24 |
gmcharlt |
so, any topics are areas of concern that folks would like to bring up now? |
| 13:24 |
kmlussier |
None from me. |
| 13:26 |
* kmlussier |
needs to disappear |
| 13:26 |
gmcharlt |
ok |
| 13:26 |
* gmcharlt |
as well |
| 13:26 |
gmcharlt |
thanks, everybody! |
| 13:27 |
gmcharlt |
#endmeeting |
| 13:27 |
pinesol_green |
Meeting ended Wed Dec 17 13:27:01 2014 US/Eastern. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) |
| 13:27 |
pinesol_green |
Minutes: http://evergreen-ils.org/meetings/evergreen/2014/evergreen.2014-12-17-13.03.html |
| 13:27 |
pinesol_green |
Minutes (text): http://evergreen-ils.org/meetings/evergreen/2014/evergreen.2014-12-17-13.03.txt |
| 13:27 |
pinesol_green |
Log: http://evergreen-ils.org/meetings/evergreen/2014/evergreen.2014-12-17-13.03.log.html |
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kmlussier |
gmcharlt++ |
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bshum |
Well I finished building the 2.7.2 tarball, but now I'm poking at the innards of the version upgrade script to add in the extra bits from the 2.6.2-2.6.3 script that we missed. Shouldn't take too much longer to roll out. |
| 14:46 |
* dbs |
in the process of disabling "Group formats and editions" after a lengthy tete-a-tete with a fellow librarian |
| 14:47 |
kmlussier |
dbs: What's the problem? |
| 14:48 |
bshum |
dbs: I like that there's a big global off-switch to metarecords :) |
| 14:49 |
bshum |
Well, for TPAC anyways. |
| 14:51 |
kmlussier |
We have one consortium that has turned it off, mostly due to bug 1373203 |
| 14:51 |
pinesol_green |
Launchpad bug 1373203 in Evergreen "Need a more intuitive means of escape after clicking Advanced Hold Options" (affected: 3, heat: 18) [Medium,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1373203 |
| 14:51 |
kmlussier |
One that issue is addressed, I think they plan to turn it back on again. |
| 14:51 |
bshum |
kmlussier: We turned ours off because we still haven't fully agreed on the way that metarecords are grouped. |
| 14:52 |
* kmlussier |
nods |
| 14:52 |
bshum |
In terms of title + author. |
| 14:52 |
bshum |
Just need some tweaking there. |
| 14:52 |
kmlussier |
I think improvements could be done there. |
| 14:52 |
bshum |
We just haven't gotten around to it. |
| 14:52 |
bshum |
Plus then we'd have to retrain everybody on what an "M" hold is. |
| 14:52 |
bshum |
That was super confusing the one upgrade I forgot to turn off metarecords for... |
| 14:53 |
mrpeters |
im drawing a blank on date transforms -- is there a way to filter on Date Value = "Today" so that a recurring report will always give the information for the day it was run (assuming it would run at say, 11PM towards the end of the day after closing) |
| 14:53 |
mrpeters |
kind of like now() in psql |
| 15:10 |
dbs |
kmlussier: a bunch of problems; some related to eresource display (seeing 30 largely undifferentiated eresource links for a single entry in search results isn't very useful) and that we don't allow holds on available items, so the whole metarecord hold is largely useless |
| 15:11 |
dbs |
And then grouping formats where format means not just large print vs. paperback, but also includes movies, etc, is also not so useful |
| 15:11 |
dbs |
So really, not great for our academic orientation |
| 15:14 |
dbs |
config.tt2++ # indeed |
| 15:21 |
bshum |
Grr, the more I poke at meshing the version-upgrade SQL bits together, the more I think I should just make a blog post talking about 2.7.2 and how we recommend folks to also run the 2.6.2-2.6.3 separately if they missed it prior to upgrading to 2.7. |
| 15:21 |
kmlussier |
dbs: Sure, that makes sense. |
| 15:21 |
* bshum |
is grumbly at the version-upgrade scripts |
| 15:22 |
bshum |
Or maybe I should just tack on an echo'd note at the end of 2.7.2 with a "if you upgrade from 2.6 to 2.7 and missed 2.6.2-2.6.3, go run that" |
| 15:24 |
kmlussier |
We don't find that our movies are grouped with books, paperbacks, large print. I always assumed it was because they didn't match on author. |
| 15:26 |
dbs |
Could be some local cataloguing things going on for us too. |
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dbs |
Just trying to explain what "Group formats and editions" does was a bit painful. We also saw confusion about whether "Group" was a noun, verb, or adjective in that label |
| 15:47 |
bshum |
Okay, uploading 2.7.2 stuff and getting things in place before I change up the downloads page. |
| 15:57 |
bshum |
And we're set. |
| 15:58 |
* bshum |
decides now is good time to go edit and update our wikipedia entry with the latest version release and date |
| 16:00 |
* Dyrcona |
waits on 4,291,491 lines from a file to populate into a database table. |
| 16:09 |
pinesol_green |
[evergreen|Ben Shum] Forward port 2.7.0-2.7.1 upgrade script - <http://git.evergreen-ils.org/?p=Evergreen.git;a=commit;h=284375d> |
| 16:09 |
pinesol_green |
[evergreen|Ben Shum] Forward-port 2.7.1-2.7.2 upgrade script - <http://git.evergreen-ils.org/?p=Evergreen.git;a=commit;h=8a3d755> |
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bshum |
These netsplits are annoying me |
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Dyrcona |
PgAdmin estimates that 764,897 rows have been loaded into my table. |
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Dyrcona |
At this rate, it won't finish until after I go home. |
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pinesol_green |
Incoming from qatests: Test Success - http://testing.evergreen-ils.org/~live/test.html <http://testing.evergreen-ils.org/~live/test.html> |
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* BigRig |
out |
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