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Dyrcona |
I'm curious: Did anyone else get a "Senior Expo Asia 2015" spam this morning/last night? |
| 09:03 |
Dyrcona |
I got it at home and at work. |
| 09:04 |
Dyrcona |
Checking our mail server logs all of the recipients here are associated with the Evergreen community. |
| 09:05 |
Dyrcona |
It's in English and Chinese. |
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bshum |
Dyrcona: Huh, I wondered where that came from... |
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bshum |
Not really, I just junked it. |
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tsbere |
I got two copies. One for me, one for gitadmin. <_< |
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kmlussier |
Both of mind came from two different sfconservancy addresses. But Dyrcona already knew that. |
| 09:08 |
Dyrcona |
Well, it was relayed through a conservancy server. |
| 09:08 |
Dyrcona |
The sender address is elf.hui@.... |
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Dyrcona |
Must have sent it to a conservancy mailing list or two. |
| 09:15 |
Dyrcona |
But mine apparently came directly from an ISP in Hong Kong. |
| 09:15 |
Dyrcona |
I suppose this person must think Evergreen has to do with aging/longevity research. |
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dbs |
Dyrcona: I got it a couple of times. |
| 09:29 |
Dyrcona |
I told bshum in private chat that some of us should go. |
| 09:29 |
Dyrcona |
It would be funny to be among the others with their geriatric products and there we are with our ILS. |
| 09:30 |
bshum |
July in Hong Kong is tooo brutally hot for me. |
| 09:30 |
csharp |
Dyrcona: it was sent to every list.evergreen-ils.org list |
| 09:31 |
Dyrcona |
I would probably not have bothered to look at our mail server logs or asked in channel, if I had only gotten the 1 at home and 1 at MVLC. |
| 09:32 |
Dyrcona |
But, I got 2 at MVLC so I was curious where they came from and what addresses they were sent to, so I started poking. |
| 09:32 |
Dyrcona |
Anyway, it's been a curious distraction this morning. |
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| 09:35 |
Dyrcona |
On a more directly Evergreen-related note: We recently bumped our max cstore drones to 200 as a result of getting "could not launch" errors consistently since our upgrade, when we were at 100. |
| 09:35 |
Dyrcona |
We made it one day without any "could not launch" errors at all. |
| 09:35 |
Dyrcona |
Then on Sunday, we had 1530 such log entries. |
| 09:36 |
Dyrcona |
We didn't have any on Monday, though we did hit 200 once or twice after midnight. |
| 09:36 |
Dyrcona |
Our next step is to run webalizer on the apache logs to see if we're getting hammered from somewhere in particular. |
| 09:37 |
Dyrcona |
And, our open-ils.cstore 'not connected' drone errors continue to plod along at the typical rate of several hundred to a thousand or so per day. |
| 09:38 |
Dyrcona |
I really think we're going to go multi-server when we get new machines in the first quarter of 2015. |
| 09:40 |
csharp |
bshum: are you seeing anything similar to what Dyrcona's describing? Just curious, since I'd like to have a heads up on that kind of thing |
| 09:41 |
csharp |
we have 6 app servers, FWIW, in case that's a factor |
| 09:41 |
bshum |
I haven't seen amything weird going on. Or heard anything strange. |
| 09:41 |
csharp |
ok - cool |
| 09:41 |
dbs |
Dyrcona: it really sounds like something is creating transactions that are never completing |
| 09:42 |
bshum |
Though bumping up cstore children is just a fact of life as far as I've known since 2.0 days |
| 09:42 |
csharp |
Dyrcona: we saw similar stuff a couple of years ago and it turned out to be a rogue SIP client that was sending many many connections per second |
| 09:42 |
dbs |
We saw that last year when we were getting hit with automated searches for things like "a", "the", "canada" that resulted in search timing out and the database pretty much locking up |
| 09:42 |
berick |
Dyrcona: you could look for occurrences of "No request was received in %d seconds, exiting stateful session" to see if there is a common API call leaving them hanging |
| 09:42 |
csharp |
(found with wireshark/tshark) |
| 09:43 |
dbs |
We found the nasty queries by monitoring the database server with pg_top for queries running at 99% CPU for longer than 10 seconds. |
| 09:44 |
dbs |
There are SIP clients that aren't rogues? Oh wait, "rogue" implies dashing/charming like Han Solo. |
| 09:44 |
BigRig |
morning all |
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csharp |
BigRig: greetings |
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kmlussier |
BigRig: Good morning! |
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csharp |
dbs++ |
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* dbs |
is starting to think we might be doing ourselves a disservice when we replace the $0 in a controlled field with our own locally-pointing $0 |
| 09:49 |
dbs |
because the existing $0 might be something like 100 1#$aTrollope, Anthony,$d1815-1882.$0(isni)1234567899999799 where the isni could be converted to a link out to http://isni.org/isni/0000000134596520 |
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dbs |
err, replace 0000 with 123456blah but you get the idea |
| 09:50 |
dbs |
and the $0 is repeatable, so we could point to external identifiers as well as to our internal authority record ID. |
| 09:50 |
dbs |
Just thinking about next steps from bug 1402921 |
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pinesol_green |
Launchpad bug 1402921 in Evergreen "Linked data: link out to major entities such as LoC and OCLC" (affected: 1, heat: 6) [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1402921 |
| 09:51 |
eeevil |
dbs: I could get behind only removing $0 where the conents of the paren'd part match our authority identifier |
| 09:51 |
eeevil |
s/removing/replacing/ or whatever |
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dbs |
eeevil: cool |
| 09:51 |
eeevil |
and supply a reasonable default value for that |
| 09:52 |
eeevil |
instead of generating "$0(you should really set this to something) 12345" ;) |
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dbs |
heh. What fool set that default! (DON'T RUN git blame!) |
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* dbs |
gets the feeling he might be diving back into authority code in the new year |
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* dbs |
heads out into the fog/rain |
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kmlussier |
@tea [someone] |
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* pinesol_green |
brews and pours a pot of Huang Shan Mao Feng Green Tea, and sends it sliding down the bar to jboyer-isl (http://ratetea.com/tea/teavivre/huang-shan-mao-feng-green-tea/6041/) |
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kmlussier |
In honor of Boston Tea Party day. |
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kmlussier |
Do people think it would be a good idea to add a community section to the FAQ? For example, we could add a question on how to get a wiki account. |
| 10:31 |
kmlussier |
I know the info is listed on the site somewhere, but I always forget where to find it. |
| 10:34 |
dbs |
kmlussier: sounds good to me, anything that lowers the barrier to joining |
| 10:34 |
dbs |
I think the existing info is basically under a page that lists "who does what", maybe |
| 10:35 |
kmlussier |
I also found it on a "how to participate in DIG" page, but I don't think most people who want to contribute to the wiki are necessarily thinking of documentation. |
| 10:35 |
kmlussier |
Hey, I remember that who does what page. I wonder if it's still up to date. |
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* dbs |
wonders if there's a "Person who updates this page: " entry on that page |
| 10:41 |
kmlussier |
I used to make a habit of updating that page, but I haven't looked at it in maybe a year. |
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dbs |
re Bug 1403098 I wonder if the problem is that the authority linking scripts need to be run on the concerto data set first. |
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pinesol_green |
Launchpad bug 1403098 in Evergreen "open-ils.supercat.authority.browse_center.by_axis.refs returns identical authority records" (affected: 1, heat: 6) [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1403098 |
| 10:43 |
dbs |
kmlussier: hey, what about development projects that developers are already actively working on (like bug 1402921)? |
| 10:43 |
pinesol_green |
Launchpad bug 1402921 in Evergreen "Linked data: link out to major entities such as LoC and OCLC" (affected: 1, heat: 6) [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1402921 |
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dbs |
Should that be part of the wiki page? Hrm. |
| 10:43 |
dbs |
probably not |
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yboston |
dbs: I was starting to look at that bug report too |
| 10:44 |
dbs |
maybe we should recommend searching & linking to existing entries in launchpad though where proposed development potentially overlaps |
| 10:44 |
yboston |
dbs: I wonder if what they are seeing is the repeated entries when auth matches have mutiple see and see alsos |
| 10:50 |
kmlussier |
dbs: The idea behind the page was to capture projects that weren't at the Launchpad stage yet. Things that are really in the idea stage. |
| 10:52 |
kmlussier |
yboston: I was thinking we should add the academic interest group to http://evergreen-ils.org/communicate/committees/, but I didn't know who to list as a main contact. |
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yboston |
kmlussier: you can list me |
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yboston |
as the main contact |
| 11:29 |
kmlussier |
yboston++ Thank you! |
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csharp |
okay - I'm not seeing DVD format icons show |
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csharp |
(in 2.7.1) |
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csharp |
the rest of the format icons display fine |
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kmlussier |
I'm feeling a bit of deja vu. Didn't somebody else have the same issue recently? |
| 12:00 |
csharp |
probably :-/ |
| 12:02 |
kmlussier |
csharp: Ah, that was mrpeters. And I think it was your server. :) |
| 12:03 |
berick |
yeah http://evergreen-ils.org/irc_logs/evergreen/2014-12/%23evergreen.01-Mon-2014.log |
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berick |
search for dvd |
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kmlussier |
csharp: It looks like the solution was revealed around http://irc.evergreen-ils.org/evergreen/2014-12-01#i_141800 |
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csharp |
berick: kmlussier: thanks@! |
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mrpeters |
csharp: the issue is the way certain items are cataloged |
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mrpeters |
dvd icon does show up when cataloged properly, but you have lots of items that seem to be cataloged as Laserdisc or "Video Disc" |
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mrpeters |
I made note of it on the upgrade spreadsheet. |
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kmlussier |
bshum or anyone else: do you know if we already have a page with guidance on testing bugs/using Launchpad? |
| 12:31 |
bshum |
kmlussier: Last I recalled, I thought ericar was working on a page for that. |
| 12:32 |
kmlussier |
I was thinking it would be useful to put http://wiki.evergreen-ils.org/doku.php?id=dev:bug_squashing:2014-11-10#testing_bugs on a page that is more permanant than a bug squashing day page, but I didn't want to create something new if there was something already out there. |
| 12:33 |
bshum |
kmlussier: Yeah, it was a carryover from a few web team meetings: http://wiki.evergreen-ils.org/doku.php?id=webteam:meetings:agenda:2014-10-15 |
| 12:34 |
bshum |
I imagine it's just gotten lost in the shuffles. |
| 12:36 |
kmlussier |
Well, maybe I can create the page with info on testing bugs, and then when somebody has time to do the larger "how to use Launchpad" page, they can incorporate it there? |
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kmlussier |
My initial goal was just to follow up on a web team action item, but I seem to be straying a bit. |
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jcamins |
@later tell rfrasur I just got an e-mail saying my foldscope is in the mail! :D :D :D |
| 14:03 |
pinesol_green |
jcamins: The operation succeeded. |
| 14:29 |
pinesol_green |
[evergreen|Ben Shum] Re-order parts of 0887 upgrade script - <http://git.evergreen-ils.org/?p=Evergreen.git;a=commit;h=e9fa808> |
| 14:29 |
pinesol_green |
[evergreen|Ben Shum] Update 2.6-2.7.0-upgrade-db.sql to reflect that it actually starts from 2.6.3 and up. - <http://git.evergreen-ils.org/?p=Evergreen.git;a=commit;h=d13e70e> |
| 14:29 |
bshum |
dbs: I'm tempted to take the 2.6.2-2.6.3 upgrade script and hammer it onto the end of whatever becomes 2.7.1-2.7.2 upgrade's script. |
| 14:29 |
bshum |
Just so that we cover the bases. |
| 14:29 |
bshum |
I forward ported things so that the chain is better now though. |
| 14:33 |
pinesol_green |
[evergreen|Dan Scott] LP#1400100 - Avoid extra </div> when OpenURL is enabled - <http://git.evergreen-ils.org/?p=Evergreen.git;a=commit;h=85ccb0c> |
| 14:36 |
paxed |
i mentioned this yesterday, but i'll repeat: anyone want to test this (marc_warnings.pl) on EG install & bib data: http://github.com/paxed/marc21-fi-mangle |
| 14:40 |
bshum |
paxed: I saw it, but haven't had a chance to play with anything. |
| 14:41 |
bshum |
I can't remember if adding a new dependency might break egbuilder, but let's see how it goes.. |
| 14:41 |
pinesol_green |
[evergreen|Jason Stephenson] LP#1401271: Add missing dependency for Date::Manip perl module - <http://git.evergreen-ils.org/?p=Evergreen.git;a=commit;h=da51e17> |
| 14:42 |
Dyrcona |
paxed: Looks like that would need some modification to work on Evergreen, if I'm looking at the proper marc_warnings.pl. |
| 14:43 |
Dyrcona |
Oh, never mind. I shouldn't look at code in a meeting. :) |
| 14:43 |
Dyrcona |
I glanced over the presets and missed the ones for evergreen. |
| 14:44 |
dbs |
paxed: I would like to look at it but time :/ |
| 14:45 |
pinesol_green |
[evergreen|Dan Scott] LP#1400082 - avoid uninitialized var warning at TPAC login - <http://git.evergreen-ils.org/?p=Evergreen.git;a=commit;h=8ee660e> |
| 14:46 |
dbs |
bshum: yeah, off hand I can't remember when the 2.6.2-2.6.3 upgrades need to be added but if they're wrapped in a transaction it can't hurt, right? :) |
| 14:46 |
bshum |
dbwells: As I work through pullrequests and 2.7.2 stuff, I'm backporting towards 2.6 too. Figure it'll help you out later :) |
| 14:49 |
bshum |
dbs: I'll do some thought and poking when I build the script then. :D |
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dbs |
bshum++ |
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bshum |
Calling 0899 |
| 14:53 |
pinesol_green |
[evergreen|Dan Scott] LP#1401286: Cleaner display of URIs in search results - <http://git.evergreen-ils.org/?p=Evergreen.git;a=commit;h=d04d181> |
| 14:57 |
pinesol_green |
[evergreen|Dan Wells] LP#1389403 Add normalizer detection to call number browse - <http://git.evergreen-ils.org/?p=Evergreen.git;a=commit;h=0836acd> |
| 14:57 |
pinesol_green |
[evergreen|Dan Wells] LP#1389403 Normalizer detection compatibility with LP#1373693 - <http://git.evergreen-ils.org/?p=Evergreen.git;a=commit;h=ea1c430> |
| 14:57 |
pinesol_green |
[evergreen|Ben Shum] LP#1389403: Stamping upgrade script for normalizer detection to call number browse - <http://git.evergreen-ils.org/?p=Evergreen.git;a=commit;h=c0680f7> |
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bshum |
Calling 0900 |
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paxed |
bshum, Dyrcona, dbs: heh, yeah, lack of time... :/ |
| 15:05 |
pinesol_green |
[evergreen|Mike Rylander] LP#1400376: Don't allow NULL attrs to polute an HSTORE as a key - <http://git.evergreen-ils.org/?p=Evergreen.git;a=commit;h=1921453> |
| 15:05 |
pinesol_green |
[evergreen|Ben Shum] LP#1400376: Stamping upgrade script for fix to metabib.record_attr - <http://git.evergreen-ils.org/?p=Evergreen.git;a=commit;h=aec9491> |
| 15:09 |
* kmlussier |
waves to paxed |
| 15:09 |
kmlussier |
paxed: I can't help out, but I just wanted to say hello. :) |
| 15:09 |
paxed |
:) |
| 15:14 |
bshum |
Calling 0901 |
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Dyrcona |
bshum++ |
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pinesol_green |
[evergreen|Bill Erickson] LP#1394356 Patron purge circs retain post code - <http://git.evergreen-ils.org/?p=Evergreen.git;a=commit;h=9bd335a> |
| 15:19 |
pinesol_green |
[evergreen|Ben Shum] LP#1394356: Stamping upgrade script for patron purge post code fix - <http://git.evergreen-ils.org/?p=Evergreen.git;a=commit;h=3424b29> |
| 15:23 |
pinesol_green |
[evergreen|Mike Rylander] LP#921142: Bring back automatic padding of short fixed fields in the GUI MARC editor - <http://git.evergreen-ils.org/?p=Evergreen.git;a=commit;h=32f7523> |
| 15:23 |
bshum |
That's an oldie |
| 15:32 |
berick |
bshum++ |
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berick |
(merging / LP) |
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dbs |
6-digit bugs, nice |
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bshum |
Only 5 pullrequest things left for 2.7.2 |
| 15:38 |
bshum |
Of those, 2 are related to action_trigger stuff, and I'm still deciding what to do about them; how to handle the backporting basically. |
| 15:39 |
bshum |
Two are still waiting for further testing. |
| 15:39 |
bshum |
And one looks like it's still in a state of flux |
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* bshum |
refers to berick/eeevil's https://bugs.launchpad.net/evergreen/+bug/1386347 |
| 15:39 |
pinesol_green |
Launchpad bug 1386347 in Evergreen 2.6 "Speed up hold copy map deletion for clear shelf process, etc." (affected: 1, heat: 6) [Undecided,New] |
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pinesol_green |
[evergreen|Dan Scott] LP#1402905 Use stricter matching for UPC values - <http://git.evergreen-ils.org/?p=Evergreen.git;a=commit;h=cd9dfdf> |
| 15:43 |
bshum |
From the comments it looks like we're mostly settled, but maybe we should test more before we're ready to put that through. |
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eeevil |
bshum: I'll sign off on that branch |
| 15:43 |
bshum |
eeevil: That works too :) |
| 15:43 |
berick |
bshum: we're running 1386347 |
| 15:43 |
bshum |
Then I feel fine if you guys want to push that through to the branches |
| 15:44 |
bshum |
Thanks! |
| 15:47 |
eeevil |
bshum: well, it was undecided as to whether it would get backported, I think |
| 15:47 |
bshum |
Ah, this is true. |
| 15:47 |
bshum |
I think you said something about errors. |
| 15:47 |
bshum |
Time-out errors? |
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eeevil |
right ... it was "RM's choice" |
| 15:48 |
bshum |
Hmm |
| 15:49 |
bshum |
I'm not hurting at the moment, so unless someone else who's using either 2.6 or 2.7 wants to lobby for it to be backported, I'm content with waiting for the new stuff in 2.8. |
| 15:49 |
* berick |
is content waiting |
| 15:51 |
bshum |
berick++ eeevil++ # it does look like a fancy nice feature then :D |
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* bshum |
feels generally happy with where we are presently for 2.7.2 cutting tomorrow then. |
| 15:58 |
bshum |
If anyone else has anything else they want to push along, feel free. Otherwise, I'm aiming to cut 2.7.2 tomorrow morning sometime. |
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jboyer-isl |
mmorgan, I see you were poking at lp 1210541 |
| 16:00 |
jboyer-isl |
yesterday, is that looking good? I didn't want to put a pullrequest on it if there are still issues. |
| 16:00 |
pinesol_green |
Launchpad bug 1210541 in Evergreen "Copy locations table should have a 'deleted' flag" (affected: 9, heat: 52) [Wishlist,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1210541 - Assigned to Michele Morgan (mmorgan) |
| 16:03 |
mmorgan |
jboyer-isl: I did start poking, but didn't finish testing yet. |
| 16:04 |
mmorgan |
I did find that the deleted locations still show up in the interfaces where location groups and location order are configured. |
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jboyer-isl |
How annoying of them. :/ I'm glad I didn't try to get it pushed in under the wire then, I'll keep plugging away. |
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jboyer-isl |
Thanks mmorgan . |
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mmorgan |
I was trying to decide if that was a showstopper. I think it would make those interfaces pretty confusing to use. :-( |
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pinesol_green |
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