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04:58 pinesol_green Incoming from qatests: Test Success - http://testing.evergreen-ils.org/~live/test.html <http://testing.evergreen-ils.org/~live/test.html>
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09:34 Dyrcona kmlussier: I did not do anything with my development vm this weekend. It is still the same as it was.
09:40 * dbs just wrote up and ran a simplistic "add oclcnumber to marc record" plperl function for easing batch reclamations etc
09:40 dbs now pondering genericizing it...
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09:46 krvmga does anyone know if anybody is playing with making an android app for the catalog?
09:48 Dyrcona krvmga: For patrons or for staff?
09:49 Dyrcona krvmga: Occasionally, someone from a college/university in Indiana(?) pops in the channel to ask questions. It seems there is an on-again off-again project there to do something like that.
09:49 dbwells_ krvmga: a fairly complete patron Android app exists.  I'll go dig up the branch in case you want to give it a spin.
09:51 dbwells_ krvmga: I think this is the most current branch:  http://git.evergreen-ils.org/?p=worki​ng/Evergreen.git;a=shortlog;h=refs/he​ads/user/kenstir/android-action-bar
09:52 krvmga Dyrcona: thanks. this would be for patrons.
09:53 Dyrcona What are you thanking me for? ;)
09:53 krvmga dbwells: that's cool to know. i have a week's vacation coming up and nothing to do. i was thinking of making a stab at it.
09:53 krvmga Drycona: answering me. :)
09:53 Dyrcona dbwells actually gave a more useful answer.
09:53 dbwells_ This branch is the app which came out of the GSoC a few summers ago.  It was then significantly enhanced by Ken Cox around a year ago.
09:54 Dyrcona And looking at that branch, there's a cwmars.app folder.
09:56 krvmga dbwells++
09:57 krvmga i was going to try to do this using the newest version of android studio.
09:57 krvmga i installed it two days ago and liked it.
09:57 dbwells_ If my memory serves me, Ken's wife works for cwmars, so that was his motivation in getting the app in better shape.  I'd love to hear any feedback on your experience with it if you decide to give it a run.
09:58 Dyrcona So, funny: I have It's Only Rock'n'Roll (and I Like It) playing right now.
09:59 Dyrcona Mick was at the chorus when I read krvmga's latest message.
10:01 krvmga Dyrcona: :)
10:01 kmlussier Dyrcona: No problem. I'm not sure when I'll have time to do testing anyway.
10:01 * kmlussier just realized today that she only has a little more than a week of work left with a long to-do list before going on vacation.
10:01 * Dyrcona watches his wifi indicator go up and down like a kid bouncing on a bed.
10:02 Dyrcona kmlussier: There's always next year.
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10:02 kmlussier dbwells_: I didn't realize more work had been done on that Android app branch. Very cool.
10:03 Dyrcona It gives me an excuse to install Android Studio and mess around with it again.
10:03 Dyrcona As if I have time....
10:06 julialima_ Hello Evergreeners!! This week I'm going to focus in understanding the whole product to start with the UI style guide, so I´m going to ask you some general questions
10:09 dbs julialima_: excellent! here's hoping we can answer them :)
10:09 kmlussier Hello julialima_!
10:11 julialima_ First of all, how does Evergreen started?
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10:12 dbs julialima_: do you mean how the project itself started?
10:13 julialima_ dbs: Yes
10:14 dbs julialima_: the wikipedia article has a pretty concise and reasonably accurate summary of the history of the project at https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Evergreen_(software)
10:15 dbs and http://lj.libraryjournal.com/2006/12/lj​archives/evergreen-your-homegrown-ils/ was an early article that talks more about the origins of the project
10:17 * dbs fixes the link in the wikipedia article to the library journal article
10:18 csharp julialima_: several of the original players are regular participants in this IRC channel, and if you want contacts at GPLS, I'd be happy to provide them ;-)
10:20 julialima_ csharp: That sounds good!
10:21 julialima_ dbs: Thank you for the links, that´s what I was asking for
10:21 eeevil julialima_: phasefx, berick and I are the original 3 developers
10:32 julialima_ eeevil: Nice to meet you!
10:35 julialima_ How did you start working? Which was the first step?
10:43 csharp wow - is there a way to browse the blog other than using Previous and Next (which only lists 3 posts at a time)?
10:44 bshum csharp: On the site?  I don't think so.  I think the reason for that is otherwise, we'd get more than 3 posts on the main page too.
10:44 bshum And that would make the front page a bit too busy.
10:45 csharp I just wanted a way to browse the original blog entries (by year/month/date would be preferable)
10:46 csharp julialima_: the evergreen-ils.org blog has lots of details about the way the project began: http://evergreen-ils.org/communicate/blog/87/
10:46 * bshum doesn't know enough Wordpress right now to answer that request :)
10:46 csharp bshum: should I mail my question to the web team list?
10:47 csharp eww - doesn't look like the blog posts have dates
10:47 bshum Of course they have dates
10:47 csharp oh wait
10:47 dbs the template is probably just hiding them
10:47 bshum It just seems that the template isn't showing them
10:47 bshum On the results
10:48 csharp the first post is entitled "Welcome!" and goes to http://evergreen-ils.org/welcome/, which is not the blog post
10:48 bshum csharp: It's probably the way the post is styled vs. the way the pages are named.
10:48 bshum There is a "welcome" page on the site
10:48 csharp right
10:49 csharp sorry - I know I'm probably one of the only people who occasionally goes back to 2004 blog posts on the site, but I expect people like julialima_ would find it useful
10:50 bshum I think that must be a redirect of some kind
10:50 julialima_ csharp: It´s very useful. Thank you!
10:50 csharp julialima_: I find the early posts to be fascinating - I hope you do too
10:51 * csharp remembers reading the entire blog up to 2007 when first applying to GPLS
10:51 dbs https://web.archive.org/web/200812050​23640/http://evergreen-ils.org/blog/? might be useful
10:51 csharp dbs++ # good idea
10:51 dbs the archived posts all the way back to "Welcome" appear to be available. Not pretty, but works.
10:52 csharp we probably just need a WP plugin or two and all will be right in the world ;-)
10:53 csharp wordpress+-
10:53 csharp @whocares wordpress
10:53 pinesol_green csharp: I can't find anyone who loves or hates wordpress.
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11:01 bshum csharp: Maybe another way is to create some sort of "all posts" list of everything so far.
11:01 bshum For example: http://wordpress.stackexchange.com/​questions/1071/create-an-all-posts-​or-archives-page-with-wordpress-3-0
11:01 bshum That said, yeah, more poking required.
11:02 bshum I'm not sure why welcome redirects yet.  But that makes me want to consider adding dates to the URL for posts
11:02 bshum Though I don't know if that affects pages too.
11:03 csharp I would assume that the <domainname>/<blog post title> URL formula would probably affect other entries as well
11:03 bshum In theory I believe there's a web team meeting on Wednesday (according to the Evergreen calendar?) but I'm not sure if that's actually going to happen or not.
11:03 bshum We've rescheduled a bit and I'm unsure what gmcharlt's availability is while he's in motion.
11:07 gmcharlt bshum: I'm now at reset
11:07 gmcharlt er, rest
11:07 bshum csharp: We changed it once, it used to be that blog posts were just numbers (the ID of the post).  When we moved the entire website to wordpress, I think I set it to use the blog post titles for easier reading.
11:07 gmcharlt I'll send a note regarding the web team meeting
11:07 * bshum hits the snooze button on his life.
11:07 kmlussier gmcharlt: There are days I would like to be at reset.
11:09 maryj kmlussier: Careful, aren't we getting into Groundhog Day territory here? ;)
11:09 bshum "Okay, campers, rise and shine, and don't forget your booties 'cause it's cooooold out there today."
11:09 kmlussier maryj: Yeah, it would have to be something that was totally under my control. :)
11:10 maryj kmlussier: Definitely. :)
11:10 dbs bshum: you did your masters, right? that's a snooze button.
11:10 bshum gmcharlt++
11:11 bshum dbs++ # haha :)
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11:25 paxed anyone wanting to test this: https://github.com/paxed/marc21-fi-mangle  (does marc_warnings.pl work on EG? i don't have an install or data i could test it against)
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11:49 kmlussier Darn! "Transfer All Title Holds" made it into the web client. I was hoping it would be "overlooked."
11:49 * kmlussier is revisiting bug 1350377
11:49 pinesol_green Launchpad bug 1350377 in Evergreen "Transferring holds functions need more granular permissions" (affected: 1, heat: 6) [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1350377
11:49 * mmorgan was hoping that as well :-(
11:54 eeevil julialima_: sorry I missed your response and question.  csharp pointed you at some good resources, and I'm happy to chat any time.  just prefix with "eeevil:" to get my attention :)
12:09 julialima_ eeevil: no worries. Thank you anyways
12:14 kmlussier mmorgan: Did you tell me you wanted to test something on a Sandbox? I can't remember what it was.
12:16 mmorgan kmlussier: lp 1210541
12:16 pinesol_green Launchpad bug 1210541 in Evergreen "Copy locations table should have a 'deleted' flag" (affected: 9, heat: 52) [Wishlist,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1210541
12:17 kmlussier mmorgan: OK. I'll load it on mlnc2 now.
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12:17 mmorgan Great! Thanks!
12:24 csharp @quote add * bshum hits the snooze button on his life.
12:24 pinesol_green csharp: The operation succeeded.  Quote #102 added.
12:25 kmlussier @quote random
12:25 pinesol_green kmlussier: Quote #44: "<bshum> Hmm, maybe it's just me, but your commits seem to be coming from my future." (added by csharp at 06:54 PM, February 20, 2013)
12:26 * csharp loves that quote
12:26 kmlussier Me too.
12:26 csharp feels very Dr. Who-ish
12:26 csharp @who is wibbly-wobbly-timey-wimey?
12:26 pinesol_green ldw is wibbly-wobbly-timey-wimey.
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13:44 kmlussier @dessert
13:44 * pinesol_green grabs some Apple Pie for kmlussier
13:48 csharp @love google forms
13:48 pinesol_green csharp: The operation succeeded.  csharp loves google forms.
13:48 csharp pinesol_green: er...
13:48 pinesol_green csharp: I see nothing, I know nothing!
13:51 * jeff raises an eyebrow
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14:21 gmcharlt dokuwiki on wiki.evergreen-ils.org upgrade to deal with a recent security fix
14:23 bshum gmcharlt: I think the tracking code went poof with that
14:23 bshum And the logo too
14:23 kmlussier Tracking code?
14:23 bshum For the webstats piwik
14:24 kmlussier Ah
14:24 gmcharlt bshum: k, I"ll restore them
14:25 bshum gmcharlt: I keep meaning to handle those better on upgrades, but I never found a smart/easy way
14:25 bshum Other than taking note of what needed to be dropped back in
14:30 bshum Oh nvm, maybe the code was there.
14:30 bshum Or gmcharlt is just awesome and quick
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14:42 Dyrcona @praise gmcharlt
14:42 * pinesol_green gmcharlt is one of the few who deserves to be praised
14:49 gmcharlt bshum: ok, I've got it set up so that overlaying with the dokuwiki tarball won't scribble over the image
14:49 gmcharlt the two new files are
14:49 gmcharlt conf/userall.css
14:49 bshum berick++ # +1 to your proposed 2.8 timeline.
14:50 gmcharlt and lib/tpl/dokuwiki/images/eg_logo.png
14:50 bshum gmcharlt++ # cool!
14:50 berick thanks bshum
14:57 csharp gmcharlt: bshum: jeff: we (mundungus admins) need to ponder building new lupin on newer debian at some point.  (prolly after the holidays/MLK upgrade for me)
14:57 csharp (just trying to keep that on The Radar)
14:59 gmcharlt csharp: switching it over to Squeeze LTS would be a useful short-term measure
15:00 * jeff can probably do that tonight if there are no objections
15:01 csharp jeff++ # no objections
15:01 gmcharlt jeff: +1
15:01 gmcharlt and jeff++
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