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re: failure, ^^ Resolving ftp.mozilla.org (ftp.mozilla.org)... failed: Name or service not known. |
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kmlussier |
It's a quiet day in Evergreen land. |
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kmlussier |
yboston: Do you think you might have a chance to look at Dananji's doc contribution for the MVF icons? If not, let me know and I'll try to set aside some time for it. I've got back-to-back meetings today, but maybe I can take a quick look tonight. |
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yboston |
kmlussier: I don't think I will get to it today :( |
| 13:28 |
yboston |
kmlussier: I still need to reply to the greek candidate, will do that now |
| 13:28 |
kmlussier |
yboston: OK, I'll take care of it then. Thanks! |
| 13:28 |
kmlussier |
I'm at a conference Monday and Tuesday, so busy times here. :) |
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yboston |
good to know, will try to help more byt hen |
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berick |
kmlussier: thanks for helping julia yesterday. sorry i missed the fun. |
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dbwells |
kmlussier: Since it is an area I have a lot of interest in, berick has agreed to have me come on as a third mentor for the UI style guide project. He's going to start getting me into the communication loop on his side, but I wanted to make sure you, as the program coordinator, knew (and were alright with it), and could also start copying me on any communcations I might need from here forward. |
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berick |
dbwells++ |
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Bmagic |
csharp: It turned out to be a penalty that blocked holds. Weird, the error was misleading for sure |
| 14:18 |
dbwells |
yboston: After some experimenting, I think making the CN normalizers immutable won't cause as many problems as I feared. |
| 14:18 |
dbwells |
yboston: With that in mind, here is a quick draft of the call number branch you have been wanting for some time: http://git.evergreen-ils.org/?p=working/Evergreen.git;a=shortlog;h=refs/heads/user/dbwells/cn_normalizer_detection |
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yboston |
dbwells: cool, I remmeber hearing some other discussion about making certain things inmuttable in PG, but did not realized it impacted CN |
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dbwells |
yboston: I need to double-check a few things before I make a bug for it, but at least it's there now if you want to do any early testing on it. |
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bshum |
Bmagic: https://bugs.launchpad.net/evergreen/+bug/1382637 is a duplicate of larger discussion at https://bugs.launchpad.net/evergreen/+bug/937789 |
| 14:20 |
pinesol_green |
bshum: Error: Could not gather data from Launchpad for bug #1382637 (https://launchpad.net/bugs/1382637). The error has been logged |
| 14:21 |
pinesol_green |
bshum: Error: Could not gather data from Launchpad for bug #937789 (https://launchpad.net/bugs/937789). The error has been logged |
| 14:21 |
bshum |
Hmm FUN! |
| 14:21 |
bshum |
Oh, right |
| 14:21 |
bshum |
It's something wrong with the DNS servers that Lupin is attached towards |
| 14:21 |
bshum |
I noticed it earlier this morning, but don't know enough about PINES |
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yboston |
dbwells: I had been researching LC call number issues last week, so I can better aprpeciate your code |
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* bshum |
pokes csharp, et al |
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bshum |
kmlussier: Unrelated, parts-- |
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Bmagic |
bshum: oh thanks for that! I didnt find 937789 |
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yboston |
dbwells: I don't have a test server with prod data right now, I will either build a new one or add soem test LC call numbers to test it o |
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yboston |
*too |
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bshum |
Shoot, I think I just broke Lupin :( |
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| 14:51 |
csharp |
huh |
| 14:54 |
bshum |
gmcharlt++ |
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* bshum |
is waiting to begin his 16 hour flight. |
| 14:55 |
kmlussier |
Oh, I almost forgot. parts++ |
| 14:55 |
gmcharlt |
bshum: direct? |
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* kmlussier |
needs to balance out the karma. |
| 14:55 |
gmcharlt |
@karma parts |
| 14:55 |
pinesol_green |
gmcharlt: Karma for "parts" has been increased 12 times and decreased 19 times for a total karma of -7. |
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bshum |
gmcharlt : Yep, one long flight. |
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kmlussier |
If mmorgan were here, she would give postiive karma too, so parts++ |
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kmlussier |
:) |
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bshum |
:D |
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bshum |
I will say that parts merging feature in 2.7 made people happy. |
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csharp |
hmmm - I'm becoming more fond of A/T since I've had to get to know it more intimately implementing longoverdue |
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csharp |
however, I'm puzzled because the action_trigger_runner.pl process is gone, but I see things still working on the server |
| 15:04 |
csharp |
like the drones are still following instructions? |
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csharp |
and the script didn't die because the lockfile is gone too |
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krvmga |
does anyone know of a reason we wouldn't want to treat "&" and "and" as identical in title searches? |
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krvmga |
or equivalent for search purposes? |
| 15:09 |
krvmga |
since they are clearly not identical. |
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csharp |
I can't think of a reason why you wouldn't want to |
| 15:09 |
csharp |
Dumb & Dumber/Dumb and Dumber - as an end user, I would want the actual title to come up either way |
| 15:10 |
kmlussier |
yboston / dbwells: I'm curious. Does that call number issue only apply to LC numbers or does it apply to Dewey as well? |
| 15:10 |
krvmga |
even if someone was being cutesy "The Life of the Ampers&nd", the 246 would have "The Life of the Ampersand". |
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* kmlussier |
is trying to think of an equivalent Dewey situation, but my brain cells are running on empty. |
| 15:10 |
yboston |
yboston: I have no idea :( |
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* kmlussier |
thinks authors come up with titles like that just to drive librarians crazy. |
| 15:11 |
csharp |
Se7en, for instance |
| 15:11 |
csharp |
of course, 11/22/63 was totally unfindable when it came out |
| 15:12 |
jcamins |
krvmga: "The story of so-and-so, &c." ? |
| 15:12 |
krvmga |
jcamins: that's an interesting thought |
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gmcharlt |
"&" and " & " could be normalized differenlty |
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gmcharlt |
or I should say, "\&\S" and "\&" |
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kmlussier |
What the #$*! Do We Know!? the 246 is what the bleep do we know, but what patron would think to enter it. |
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krvmga |
jcamins: http://www.wdl.org/en/item/3349/ as a case in point |
| 15:13 |
jcamins |
Fortunately, there is no word "andc," so it's unlikely that you'd get false positives. |
| 15:14 |
jcamins |
krvmga: yeah, "&c." is actually common enough that I've been known to write it myself. |
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* gmcharlt |
too |
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krvmga |
jcamins: unless andc is an acronym for something |
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jcamins |
gmcharlt: we should form a support group. "Hi, I am Jared. I use antiquated abbreviations." |
| 15:15 |
gmcharlt |
:) |
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jcamins |
krvmga: oh, right. Better use gmcharlt's suggestion. |
| 15:15 |
jcamins |
("Vale, Jared!") |
| 15:16 |
krvmga |
i write my ampersand like a backwards 3 with a little vertical line above and below it. |
| 15:16 |
jcamins |
Me too. |
| 15:16 |
krvmga |
perhaps i need a support group |
| 15:16 |
jcamins |
I only know one person who can write a proper ampersand, and I can't remember who that person is. |
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kmlussier |
I wouldn't even try to write an ampersand. |
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jcamins |
kmlussier: ampersands are awesome. |
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* jcamins |
put an ampersand in the name of his company for that very reason. It may not have been the best choice from a catalog searching standpoint. |
| 15:17 |
kmlussier |
If I'm handwriting, I usually just write a plus sign for may ands. Much easier. |
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kmlussier |
s/may/my |
| 15:18 |
jcamins |
kmlussier: easier, but less satisfying, alas. |
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krvmga |
so how do i make "&" and "and" equal from the catalog's POV? |
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jcamins |
krvmga: no idea, but now I want to do this for Koha, only making it translate & to "et." |
| 15:20 |
* jcamins |
knows how to do it for Koha, but that doesn't help you. |
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* krvmga |
is happy for jcamins. |
| 15:21 |
jcamins |
Hehe. |
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jeffdavis |
&c.++ |
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krvmga |
lol |
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kmlussier |
Not necessarily a related topic, but it reminds me of the bug mmorgan recently filed where we now have trouble with phrase searches that begin or end in punctuation. I had always seen one of Evergreen's strengths was its ability to find things like titles on C++. It would be nice if we could find out why that stopped working correctly. |
| 15:24 |
kmlussier |
bug 1373601 |
| 15:24 |
pinesol_green |
Launchpad bug 1373601 in Evergreen "Searching the catalog for a phrase match fails when the search term begins or ends with certain characters." (affected: 1, heat: 8) [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1373601 |
| 15:24 |
gmcharlt |
krvmga: for select index definitions, update config.metabib_field_index_norm_map to use the "Replace" normalizer to map ' & ' to ' and ' is one possibility |
| 15:24 |
kmlussier |
Oh, nice, that's working again. |
| 15:24 |
krvmga |
jeffdavis++ #for making such a subtle joke |
| 15:24 |
krvmga |
gmcharlt: thanks. i thought maybe that might be the way to go. |
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krvmga |
gmcharlt++ |
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jeffdavis |
krvmga: more subtle than I initially realized, but hey. :) |
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krvmga |
jeffdavis: the answer always is "i meant to do that". :) |
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