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08:43 krvmga i'm still getting things like this -- filter_group_entry(7) title:gone girl -- in the advanced search text box.
08:43 krvmga after a search
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08:44 krvmga and, if i change Title to Keyword, i get this -- filter_group_entry(7) filter_group_entry(7) title:gone girl
08:44 krvmga and, if i change format -- filter_group_entry(6) filter_group_entry(7) filter_group_entry(7) title:gone girl
08:45 krvmga it's like i'm getting '80s shoulderpad build-up
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08:53 krvmga i wonder if this is an instance of https://bugs.launchpad.net/evergreen/+bug/1005040
08:53 pinesol_green Launchpad bug 1005040 in Evergreen "TPAC: eliminate advanced search filters from subsequent basic search box" (affected: 5, heat: 26) [Medium,Confirmed]
08:53 jtaylor_ Sorry to bother you all again but have a weird problem.   A while back we did a test migration and everything went fairly well.   Just did another prior to going live to make sure all the changes to the process were solid...now the copy locations show as being attached to Org_Units that don't exist.
08:54 jtaylor_ They show things like BR1, SM1, etc.   Can't find those values anywhere.
08:54 jtaylor_ I've gone back and verified that my org_unit ids are correct on the copy records and the copy_locations.
08:54 jtaylor_ Any ideas?
08:55 krvmga BR1 is a fake ou installed with concerto, i think
08:55 jtaylor_ Yes...but I removed those prior to the load.
08:55 jtaylor_ Some of the codes anyway....don't remember seeing some that are being displayed.
08:56 csharp jtaylor_: did you run 'autogen.sh -u' after making the changes?
08:56 csharp (as the opensrf user on any Evergreen application servers)
08:56 jtaylor_ We were wondering if we missed a step.   I wasn't invovled when they did the setup before and one person thought there was another step involved.
08:57 jtaylor_ Will it fix things even after having loaded records?
08:57 jtaylor_ ...or does it have to be done prior to the load?
08:57 csharp jtaylor_: it only affects the display in the staff client/opac
08:57 jtaylor_ Okay.  We'll give that a go.   Thanks.
08:58 jtaylor_ Odd that doesn't get mentioned in any of the documenation I read.
08:58 csharp but if you're seeing "old" names for units in the OPAC or staff client, sounds like you didn't run autogen.sh
08:58 jtaylor_ Maybe I'm just reading the wrong things :-)
08:58 jtaylor_ Thanks again...off to give it a try.
08:59 jtaylor_ bye.
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09:13 jtaylor_ Thanks csharp...that did the trick.
09:14 jtaylor_ They ran it but then made changes to the Org Units.
09:14 jtaylor_ ran it again and all looks good.
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09:18 krvmga we like stories with happy endings :)
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09:29 jeff good morning!
09:29 rfrasur Good morning to you Jeff :)
09:41 jeff deployed new network at the library in the neighboring county last night. all went well. :-)
09:42 rfrasur jeff++ #You have made many happy librarians this morning.
09:42 rfrasur Or at least a few.
09:42 krvmga grats!
09:43 krvmga jeff++
09:43 rfrasur But they're VERY happy.
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09:49 jboyer-isl jeff++
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10:08 * Dyrcona hates having to add PPAs to get versions of software that works with Evergreen.
10:26 Dyrcona Great...So I install python-software-properties on Ubuntu 14.04 and I don't get add-apt-repository.
10:27 Dyrcona Wonder where they moved it this time.
10:30 Dyrcona software-properties-common
10:33 Dyrcona Maybe it was always there and dependencies changed. *shrugs*
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12:38 dbs gmcharlt: were you thinking $9 (OU Lasso) by any chance?
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13:44 krvmga bshum inspired us to add a consortium map to our OPAC homepage
13:44 krvmga bshum++
13:45 krvmga http://bark.cwmars.org -- if you want to see it
14:02 eeevil dbs: at 12:38, were you referring to the l-URI discussion?
14:03 eeevil I was wondering that as well ... I figured multiple 856s covered that, but it could be a nice optimization
14:03 eeevil (cataloging optimization, I mean, not code, per se)
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14:23 bshum Hmm, would adding more fingerprint data points be as simple as adding new entries to config.biblio_fingerprint ?
14:24 bshum Or adjusting the existing title entry I guess
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14:26 krvmga this is really a question for eeevil ; reporter:label appears 3645 times in fm_IDL.xml in the vanilla install of eg. does this actually mean that there are 3645 data sources in the vanilla install of eg?
14:27 eeevil krvmga: no
14:27 krvmga thank god
14:27 eeevil there are that many fields and tables
14:27 eeevil reporter:label is used to give friendly names to lots of objects, not just <class> nodes
14:28 eeevil bshum: yes, it should be
14:28 eeevil (while I'm here ... ;) )
14:28 bshum eeevil: We've been musing about adding other 245 subfields like n (number) and p (part) to the fingerprinter to avoid strange metarecord bundling.
14:28 * krvmga feels a strong sense of relief, as if a bullet was just dodged.
14:29 bshum Too many cases where different materials are getting grouped together that wouldn't be if we took those extra parts of the title into account.
14:29 krvmga eeevil: if i am looking for all the data sources in fm_IDL.xml, what search should i do?
14:29 eeevil bshum: aye, and $b in some cases is important
14:30 eeevil krvmga: just those exposed in the reporter?
14:30 krvmga yes, just the ones that you'd use for reports.
14:30 bshum eeevil: That too could be handy.  I was just thinking about mirroring what we use now in results title display.  Which so happens to be 'abnp' so yeah
14:30 krvmga my intention is to try and document them.
14:30 bshum Trying to think through potential consequences of tweaking it that way.
14:31 Dyrcona krvmga: xpath -q -e '//class/@reporter:label' Src/Evergreen/Open-ILS/examples/fm_IDL.xml  | wc -l
14:31 Dyrcona That says 459 on master.
14:31 krvmga Dyrcona++
14:31 krvmga thanks
14:32 eeevil well, that'll get the nicely named ones, certainly :)
14:32 krvmga eeevil: and the not-so-nicely named ones?
14:33 bshum eeevil: Well the cataloger doesn't like "b" apparently, for situations like "blah blah: $ba novel."
14:33 bshum But sigh
14:33 bshum I hate MARC
14:34 eeevil some lack reporter:label (or used to). in the long ago, we had open-ils.rstore in the controller list for report-able objects, but it looks like that's gone
14:35 eeevil I'd just grab all <class> nodes and skip the ones that don't make sense to you ;)
14:35 eeevil bshum: yeah, but then there are the animated series on VHS that encode the episode name in $b ... :(
14:41 kmlussier That's why it would be nice to have a way to manually link metarecords together. Use the subfields that work for the most use cases, but have a way to manually adjust for those titles that don't fit.
14:47 jeffdavis @karma MARC
14:47 pinesol_green jeffdavis: Karma for "MARC" has been increased 0 times and decreased 20 times for a total karma of -20.
14:47 jeffdavis MARC--
14:58 eeevil kmlussier: I agree entirely!
15:03 dbs eeevil: yep, ou_lassos for l-uris. Benefit being that you could avoid multiple 856s and crazy combinations of OU settings, I guess.
15:05 eeevil dbs: I'm with ya ... not sure how we'd encode that in $9, though. thoughts?
15:05 * dbs has _very_ few thoughts right now -- one year of technical debt to pay back here :/
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17:14 pinesol_green Incoming from qatests: Test Success - http://testing.evergreen-ils.org/~live/test.html <http://testing.evergreen-ils.org/~live/test.html>
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23:14 Silva Hello guys I just want to inquire is there is a tutorial how to make online payment in evergreen When I chect the evergreen files there is paypal. I want to know is there is a tutorial for this ty

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