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pinesol_green |
Incoming from qatests: Test Success - http://testing.evergreen-ils.org/~live/test.html <http://testing.evergreen-ils.org/~live/test.html> |
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bshum |
Sigh, "top_of_queue" sucks. |
| 08:01 |
bshum |
Holds suck too, but this especially is getting annoying now. |
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csharp |
bshum: what's going on? |
| 08:02 |
bshum |
csharp: I was just remembering what was discussed at a meeting with library staff a few days ago |
| 08:02 |
bshum |
They've been putting all sorts of things at "top of queue" for holds |
| 08:02 |
csharp |
eeww |
| 08:02 |
bshum |
And wondering why holds didn't fill as expected :) |
| 08:03 |
bshum |
Does it go by the latest one we put on top? |
| 08:03 |
bshum |
etc. |
| 08:03 |
bshum |
And I'm like, no, it just flags them as more important than the rest and still fills by other factors at that point |
| 08:03 |
bshum |
So if you all fight for marking holds top of queue, it is meaningless |
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csharp |
and it potentially screws everyone else ;-) |
| 08:03 |
bshum |
Also, they shouldn't use it |
| 08:03 |
bshum |
:) |
| 08:04 |
bshum |
Indeed. |
| 08:04 |
bshum |
Now of course I want to find a way of making that option disappear |
| 08:04 |
bshum |
And then doing some mass update to the holds to flip the flag off |
| 08:05 |
bshum |
But I'll shout at the sky anyways. Darn holds madness. |
| 08:05 |
bshum |
That and hiding the so-called "holds queue". Which is a damned lie. |
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csharp |
oh yeah - we hid that the second it became visible |
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csharp |
seems like that would only work in a reasonably expected way with FIFO enabled |
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bshum |
Indeed. |
| 08:07 |
bshum |
Or you know... single library :) |
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bshum |
Anywho, long morning with meetings "far" away in the corner of CT. |
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bshum |
Catch you folks later! |
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jl- |
bshum: enjoy |
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asimon |
Our Evergreen 2.4.6 system has stopped processing holds and gives the following error: 2014-04-17 08:50:10 tcmc-brick01-head osrf_http_translator: [error] [client 192.100.94.241] Global $r object is not available. Set:\n\tPerlOptions +GlobalRequest\nin httpd.conf at /usr/share/perl/5.14/CGI.pm line 367.\n. What does this error mean? |
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asimon |
Line 267 is: $self->r(Apache2::RequestUtil->request) unless $self->r; |
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asimon |
Sorry, that should be: Line 367 is: $self->r(Apache2::RequestUtil->request) unless $self->r; |
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Dyrcona |
asimon: Have you tried googling the error? |
| 09:43 |
asimon |
Dyrcona: Yes, but there is nothing related to open-ils or evergreen |
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Dyrcona |
asimon: It's probably not an Evergreen problem. It looks more like a Perl or CGI.pm problem from the message. |
| 09:44 |
Dyrcona |
Or maybe an Apache problem. |
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asimon |
Dyrcona: I do not see any other error messages in the logs that could pertain to the problem. |
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Dyrcona |
asimon: The latter doesn't matter. Sometimes you only get the 1 error. I'd try some of the solutions or look into the things mentioned in the google results. You might find something that way. |
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asimon |
Dyrcona:I'll check. Thanks. |
| 09:49 |
Dyrcona |
It may end up being an Evergreen problem, but it looks more general than that. |
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Dyrcona |
So, I added a book to the catalog yesterday and it won't turn up when I do a local catalog search via z39.50. |
| 10:03 |
Dyrcona |
If I do a regular search for the ISBN in the catalog, it turns up. |
| 10:03 |
Dyrcona |
What do I need to fix so that the book shows up via ISBN in z39.50? |
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bshum |
RDA-- |
| 10:36 |
bshum |
For example, from our system: http://acorn.biblio.org/eg/opac/record/2993639 |
| 10:37 |
bshum |
Where one of the entries is: |
| 10:37 |
bshum |
=264 \1$a[Place of publication not identified] :$b[Publisher not identified],$c[2014] |
| 10:37 |
bshum |
"not identified" Great.... |
| 10:38 |
bshum |
But of course, the next line has the distributor |
| 10:38 |
bshum |
But no date |
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bshum |
=264 \2$aLos Angeles, CA :$bWalt Disney Studios Home Entertainment |
| 10:38 |
bshum |
Sigh, cataloging is such a fickle thing |
| 10:41 |
csharp |
bshum: I don't know enough to tell... is that poor cataloging or is it the way RDA needs to be? |
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dbs |
bshum: no, no, it's much more granular information, isn't it great? |
| 10:42 |
csharp |
@marc 264 |
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pinesol_green |
csharp: unknown tag 264 |
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csharp |
@update marc plugin |
| 10:42 |
pinesol_green |
csharp: http://www.firstpersontetris.com/ |
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dbs |
Also, "[Place of publication not identified]" is marvelous for systems that support multiple languages. |
| 10:43 |
eeevil |
there's a joke about "machine readable" in there somewhere, but I'm too depressed to find it |
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Dyrcona |
The machine's can't read it, either. :) |
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pastebot |
"shart290" at 64.57.241.14 pasted "settings-tester.pl output <Last Problem I promise>" (6 lines) at http://paste.evergreen-ils.org/61 |
| 10:47 |
bshum |
csharp: I think it's a bit of both |
| 10:47 |
csharp |
bshum: yowza |
| 10:47 |
bshum |
According to my catalogers, they tell me the OCLC version of the bib has been updated to have actual name entries |
| 10:47 |
bshum |
But apparently the date can sometimes be omitted |
| 10:48 |
bshum |
And only on one of the various 264's |
| 10:48 |
bshum |
And I'm not sure if that's spec or just bad cataloging again |
| 10:49 |
dbs |
that's spec |
| 10:49 |
dbs |
quite often the date is hanging off on its own in a 264 \4 $c |
| 10:50 |
bshum |
Oy |
| 10:50 |
bshum |
Then that's fun |
| 10:50 |
dbs |
(well, the copyright date. And quite often it has a cute Unicode copyright symbol prepended to it) |
| 10:51 |
Dyrcona |
yep, that's I used html_entities or something on the field. |
| 10:51 |
Dyrcona |
why. |
| 10:51 |
Dyrcona |
I can't type today. |
| 10:51 |
Dyrcona |
omissions..... |
| 10:51 |
dbs |
Arguably, a publisher publishes a certain edition at a point in time, so 264 \1 gets a date; but a distributor distributes over a span of time, so no date makes sense; and copyright happens at a date that might be different than publication |
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dbs |
Still, I look forward to the great linked-data-at-the-core-of-Evergreen future |
| 10:54 |
Dyrcona |
@blame MVF/CRA |
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pinesol_green |
Dyrcona: MVF/CRA musta been an Apple employee. |
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Dyrcona |
Ha! |
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jl- |
do people in here still use xmllint to check xml validty? |
| 11:01 |
gmcharlt |
I do |
| 11:02 |
jl- |
I'm not sure if my file is too big but I keep getting |
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jl- |
xmllint --noout ship-authority-mrc.xml 2> marc.xml.err |
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jl- |
Killed |
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jl- |
on two different vm's one debian one ubuntu |
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ningalls |
if anyone knows some decent linux system engineers looking for work, I need some qualified work mates! http://www.ena.com/jobs/ |
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gmcharlt |
right, you want to run it in SAX mode, not DOM mode, for large files |
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rfrasur |
ningalls++ |
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gmcharlt |
jl-: --stream, I believe |
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ningalls |
Ruth, take your RHCE and move to Nashville! |
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jl- |
gmcharlt: thanks now it ran it and the .err is 0 |
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jl- |
gmcharlt++ |
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dbs |
ningalls++ |
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shart290 |
if anyone has some time I am facing what I hope to be the last hurdle to getting this Card Catalog Server up and running. Any help would be greatly appreciated. |
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shart290 |
http://paste.evergreen-ils.org/61 |
| 11:15 |
Dyrcona |
shart290: You missed a step. You need to configure database settings in your opensrf configuration files. Other than stating that, I'm too busy to help. |
| 11:15 |
shart290 |
Maybe I missed that step but I have been looking for how to do that and I havent found anything. |
| 11:16 |
shart290 |
I've been looking for how to do that on the website. Combed the installation steps and have not found anything overtly covering the database configuration other than eg_db_configure and I have run that twice now. |
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shart290 |
can someone point me to a configuration xml example that has the database settings in it? Perhaps I can manually enter that information into the files. |
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csharp |
shart290: alternatively, if you can scrub your opensrf.xml file of anything you don't want to show the world and pastebin that, someone may be able to see a problem |
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csharp |
shart290: you might add your (also scrubbed) opensrf_core.xml too |
| 11:23 |
shart290 |
ok, lemme do that. It's an internal catalog anyhow. I'm not too concerned about information. |
| 11:25 |
shart290 |
http://pastebin.com/yGjtY2NJ |
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shart290 |
all xml files. opensrf.xml opensrf_core.xml and srfsh.xml |
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csharp |
shart290: your opensrf.xml is for OpenSRF, not Evergreen |
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Dyrcona |
shart290: There's a script to set it. I forget the name. |
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csharp |
shart290: i.e., that's the file you need in place for testing OpenSRF connections, not running Evergreen |
| 11:27 |
shart290 |
ok, so I need to copy the example from Evergreen-ILS-2.5.3/Open-ILS/src/examples/ ? |
| 11:27 |
csharp |
shart290: yep |
| 11:29 |
shart290 |
ok, running a DIFF on the two, may search/replace for the LOCALSTATEDIR, SYSCONFDIR, and PREFIX |
| 11:32 |
shart290 |
ok, I did get something different. Let me run eg_db_config one last time all the way through. |
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shart290 |
that seemed to turn positive results, no errors, settings-tester.pl checked out. BUT srfsh login recieved no data from the server |
| 11:38 |
shart290 |
i'm restarting all services associated. Apache, jabber server, memcached, postgresql and osrf_control |
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csharp |
osrf_control would be the key |
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shart290 |
Received no data from server |
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shart290 |
------------------------------------ |
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shart290 |
Request Time in seconds: 0.001710 |
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shart290 |
------------------------------------ |
| 11:41 |
shart290 |
srfsh login output. |
| 11:44 |
shart290 |
http://pastebin.com/t27rHLF9 settings-checker.pl output |
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csharp |
shart290: check the osrfsys.log file in /openils/var/log to see if there are useful messages |
| 11:48 |
shart290 |
ok\ |
| 11:49 |
shart290 |
the only one with anything is the srfsh.log |
| 11:52 |
shart290 |
http://pastebin.com/Px3YGhW5 |
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shart290 |
[{"__c":"osrfMessage","__p":{"threadTrace":"1","locale":"en-US","ingress":"srfsh","type":"REQUEST","payload":{"__c":"osrfMethod","__p":{"method":"open-ils.auth.authenticate.init","params":["egadmin"]}}}}] |
| 12:07 |
shart290 |
srfsh 2014-04-17 10:41:00 [DEBG:21641:osrf_stack.c:123:1397749252216410] We received 1 messages from router private.localhost/open-ils.auth |
| 12:07 |
shart290 |
srfsh 2014-04-17 10:41:00 [WARN:21641:osrf_stack.c:134:1397749252216410] !!! Received Jabber layer error message |
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shart290 |
srfsh 2014-04-17 10:41:00 [WARN:21641:osrf_stack.c:144:1397749252216410] * Jabber Error is for top level remote id [routerprivate.localhost/open-ils.auth], no one to send my message to! Cutting request short... |
| 12:07 |
shart290 |
srfsh 2014-04-17 10:41:00 [INFO:21641:osrf_stack.c:163:1397749252216410] Message processing duration 0.000054 |
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shart290 |
srfsh 2014-04-17 10:41:00 [DEBG:21641:osrf_stack.c:166:1397749252216410] after msg delete |
| 12:07 |
shart290 |
srfsh 2014-04-17 10:41:00 [ERR :21641:osrf_app_session.c:304:1397749252216410] Transport error in recv() |
| 12:07 |
shart290 |
srfsh 2014-04-17 10:41:00 [DEBG:21641:osrf_app_session.c:1089:1397749252216410] AppSession [open-ils.auth] [1397749260.999328.139774926021641] destroying self and deleting requests |
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shart290 |
srfsh 2014-04-17 10:41:10 [DEBG:21641:osrf_app_session.c:508:1397749252216410] open-ils.auth session is stateless |
| 12:08 |
shart290 |
srfsh 2014-04-17 10:41:10 [DEBG:21641:osrf_app_session.c:519:1397749252216410] Building a new client session with id [open-ils.auth] [1397749270.287193.139774927021641] |
| 12:08 |
shart290 |
srfsh 2014-04-17 10:41:10 [DEBG:21641:osrf_app_session.c:1070:1397749252216411] AppSession in queue_wait with timeout 0 |
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shart290 |
srfsh 2014-04-17 10:41:10 [DEBG:21641:osrf_app_session.c:785:1397749252216411] App Session [open-ils.auth] [1397749270.287193.139774927021641] resetting remote id to routerprivate.localhost/open-ils.auth |
| 12:08 |
shart290 |
srfsh 2014-04-17 10:41:10 [INFO:21641:osrf_app_session.c:1017:1397749252216411] [open-ils.auth] sent 206 bytes of data to routerprivate.localhost/open-ils.auth |
| 12:08 |
shart290 |
srfsh 2014-04-17 10:41:10 [DEBG:21641:osrf_app_session.c:1020:1397749252216411] Sent: [{"__c |
| 12:08 |
shart290 |
it seems there is an issue with the jabber server communication? |
| 12:14 |
jeffdavis |
shart290: nothing useful in the ejabberd logs I suppose? |
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shart290 |
hmmm |
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shart290 |
let me look |
| 12:23 |
shart290 |
http://pastebin.com/qS0iMj2p |
| 12:23 |
csharp |
okay - I asked about this a little a few days ago without a response, but I've learned a little more and think I know what I need... the default PO JEDI tt2 template in the A/T definition only factors in ISBNs and we'd like it to use whichever identifier (ISBN, UPC, ISSN) is chosen from the lineitem screen |
| 12:23 |
shart290 |
I don't see anything off hand, but things are a little unfamiliar so I am not quite sure what I am looking at. |
| 12:23 |
csharp |
does anyone have already-created TT2 code that I could crib from? |
| 12:25 |
csharp |
shart290: so the usernames/passwords you registered with ejabberd match the usernames passwords for opensrf/router in opensrf_core.xml? |
| 12:25 |
shart290 |
they do, unless something got overwritten. |
| 12:29 |
shart290 |
everything checks out. |
| 12:29 |
shart290 |
is there a way to unregister and re-register the usernames and passwords with jabber? |
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jeff |
shart290: i believe ejabberdctl has options for both of those things. |
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tsbere |
shart290: You can also just force-set passwords for existing users |
| 13:03 |
shart290 |
I got the users removed and updated. refreshed my config files to make sure that user names, passwords, and directories were correct. |
| 13:04 |
shart290 |
DB information is correct. |
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shart290 |
settings-tester.pl reports errors connecting to jabber |
| 13:05 |
shart290 |
Please install Business::CreditCard::Object |
| 13:05 |
shart290 |
Whats that supposed to mean |
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phasefx |
shart290: I haven't been following everything, but did you run a command invoking Makefile.install for pre-requisites? That Business thing is a perl module |
| 13:08 |
shart290 |
I did, is there a way to manually install it? |
| 13:08 |
phasefx |
as root, cpan Business::CreditCard::Object |
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shart290 |
not sure I really want to have to go back through everything again. |
| 13:08 |
phasefx |
but if that got missed somehow, it's likely others got missed to, and you may be playing whack-a-mole. You can run the Makefile.install step again without having to redo everything else |
| 13:09 |
shart290 |
ok |
| 13:09 |
shart290 |
and thats with opensrf or evergreen? |
| 13:09 |
phasefx |
you do Makefile.install once for OpenSRF, and again with Evergreen |
| 13:09 |
shart290 |
ok |
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dbs |
oh, Business::CreditCard needs to be force installed |
| 13:10 |
dbs |
gmcharlt recently wrote a patch for that that was only recently committed |
| 13:10 |
phasefx |
dbs++ |
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dbs |
"cpan" and then "force install Business::CreditCard" IIRC |
| 13:11 |
shart290 |
it installed normally as you directed with your first cpan statement |
| 13:13 |
shart290 |
jabber is still reporting connection errors and all the user names and passwords should be correct |
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dbs |
can you "telnet private.localhost 5222"? |
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shart290 |
lemme see |
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dbs |
And is open-ils.auth even running? |
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krvmga |
dan pearl and i are talking about doing some development in the kids catalog to add some functionality and also to make the kids catalog stay in a "kid universe" (in other words, not go to the main catalog at all). we want to let people know that we're doing this. how should be best do that? |
| 13:19 |
shart290 |
Exception: OpenSRF::EX::Jabber 2014-04-17T12:18:45 OpenSRF::Transport::SlimJabber::Client /usr/local/share/perl/5.14.2/OpenSRF/Transport/SlimJabber/Client.pm:155 Jabber Exception: Could not open TCP socket to Jabber server: IO::Socket::INET: connect: Connection refused |
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jeff |
krvmga: a wishlist bug and a post to open-ils-general sound like a good start. |
| 13:20 |
jeff |
and thinking, i don't know if we have a documented recommendation for that kind of question or not. i should look. :-) |
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krvmga |
jeff: okay. we're going to make a little "map" of what we're thinking to do (and then do it) |
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kmlussier |
jeff / krvmga: I think that's documented at http://wiki.evergreen-ils.org/doku.php?id=contributing#code_contribution |
| 13:25 |
kmlussier |
Though I don't think there is an easy way to find that page from the main web site at the moment. |
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jeff |
kmlussier: that was the first place i was going to look. :-) |
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shart290 |
this is insane, one turn after another it |
| 13:37 |
shart290 |
it's a problem after another. I need to figure out what the issue is |
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* shart290 |
hits forehead on keyboard. |
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krvmga |
where does the stemmer live in evergreen? |
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phasefx |
shart290: I don't know the big picture with regards to what you need, but there is an automated process that builds a running Evergreen from scratch twice a day. If you want a pristine "master" version of EG running on debian-wheezy, I can point you in the right direction. I would suggest hanging in there and figuring out how to use a packaged release, though |
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phasefx |
krvmga: that's all natively part of postgres; I don't know more specific details than that |
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kmlussier |
krvmga: I know it's called snowball. |
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krvmga |
i know it's called snowball |
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krvmga |
if i wanted to add/remove/change things in it, i would have to find it in postgres, eh? |
| 13:47 |
shart290 |
i plan on getting it going |
| 13:47 |
kmlussier |
krvmga: It depends. If you wanted to turn it off, you could do it in the staff client. |
| 13:48 |
krvmga |
kmlussier: i was thinking of adding some things. i think there might be typos, too. |
| 13:48 |
phasefx |
that's kind of cool re: snowball (I remember there being a programming language called SNOBOL that was supposedly good with text) |
| 13:48 |
krvmga |
dan pearl says he knows SNOBOL |
| 13:48 |
phasefx |
:D |
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kmlussier |
krvmga: This is really out of my depth, but as far as typos, I thought snowball was something of an alogorithm. |
| 13:50 |
krvmga |
kmlussier: when i look at http://snowball.tartarus.org , there are sample word lists. i don't know if these are "created" beforehand or auto-generated somehow. |
| 13:51 |
kmlussier |
Looking at this e-mail from dbs - http://georgialibraries.markmail.org/thread/6dklfwufhpjmpfb5 - "Evergreen's search algorithm uses PostgreSQL's full-text indexes, including Porter stemming." |
| 13:53 |
krvmga |
kmlussier: i was just looking at the porter stemming algorithm |
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kmlussier |
bbqben: bshum told me he may be running a little late for the meeting. |
| 13:59 |
bbqben |
kmlussier: 10-4. sborger is unable to attend |
| 13:59 |
krvmga |
kmlussier: i'm trying to figure out if stemming happens on the fly from what someone enters in the opac search box. so, if i enter "ladies", it's always going to give me lad(x) before it gives me "ladies". |
| 13:59 |
bbqben |
Folks - EOB meeting starting here in a minute or two, JFYI |
| 14:02 |
bbqben |
#startmeeting Evergreen Oversight Board Meeting, 17.04.14 |
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pinesol_green |
Meeting started Thu Apr 17 14:02:16 2014 US/Eastern. The chair is bbqben. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. |
| 14:02 |
pinesol_green |
Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic. |
| 14:02 |
pinesol_green |
The meeting name has been set to 'evergreen_oversight_board_meeting__17_04_14' |
| 14:02 |
bbqben |
#topic introductions |
| 14:02 |
bbqben |
EOB members, please introduce yourself with #info |
| 14:02 |
RoganH |
#info RoganH = Rogan Hamby, SCLENDS |
| 14:03 |
kmlussier |
#info kmlussier is Kathy Lussier MassLNC |
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montgoc1 |
#info montgoc1 = Chauncey Montgomery, Consortium of Ohio Libraries |
| 14:03 |
bbqben |
#info bbqben = Ben Hyman, BC Libraries Co-op |
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graced |
#info graced is Grace Dunbar, Equinox |
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bshum |
#info bshum = Ben Shum, Bibliomation |
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bshum |
(made it!) |
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shart290 |
back |
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kmlussier |
Darn! There goes my chance to volunteer bshum for everything. |
| 14:04 |
bbqben |
#topic Minutes & Action items from previous meeting |
| 14:05 |
bbqben |
Everyone happy with the minutes (thanks kmlussier)? |
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bshum |
Looks good to me. |
| 14:06 |
montgoc1 |
Same here. |
| 14:07 |
bbqben |
#action kmlussier: post minutes from in-person meeting |
| 14:07 |
bbqben |
#topic Adoption of Code of Conduct amended to include OpenStack definition list as examples |
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bbqben |
kmlussier: thanks for circulating the draft & thanks all for feedback so far. Any further comments? |
| 14:08 |
kmlussier |
I think it looks good. |
| 14:08 |
bshum |
+1 |
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abneiman |
OK here (sorry for lateness btw) |
| 14:09 |
bshum |
It's a good addition |
| 14:10 |
RoganH |
I'd like to see it adjusted to include Chauncey's feedback but I'm glad to see up moving forward with it. |
| 14:11 |
graced |
RoganH: You mean that those are examples not an exhaustive list? |
| 14:11 |
bbqben |
ok, so with montgoc1 suggested amendment I'll call a vote here in a moment unless there are other amendments |
| 14:11 |
pastebot |
"csharp" at 64.57.241.14 pasted "trying to pay a bill via srfsh - not sure what I'm doing wrong" (15 lines) at http://paste.evergreen-ils.org/62 |
| 14:11 |
RoganH |
graced: correct |
| 14:11 |
graced |
+1 to that |
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kmlussier |
+1 |
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csharp |
oops - sorry - forgot about the meeting! |
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* csharp |
hides head in shame |
| 14:12 |
bbqben |
csharp: lol |
| 14:12 |
kmlussier |
:) |
| 14:13 |
bbqben |
#startvote (To adopt the draft code of conduct as amended to include the OpenStack definition of harassment as examples) Yes, No, Abstain |
| 14:13 |
pinesol_green |
Unable to parse vote topic and options. |
| 14:13 |
bbqben |
flubs - but will persisit |
| 14:15 |
pastebot |
"gmcharlt" at 64.57.241.14 pasted "full text" (63 lines) at http://paste.evergreen-ils.org/64 |
| 14:15 |
gmcharlt |
offerred in the hope that it helps |
| 14:15 |
bbqben |
sorry - when it rains. standby for keyboard |
| 14:16 |
kmlussier |
gmcharlt++ |
| 14:17 |
bbqben |
#help vote |
| 14:17 |
gmcharlt |
bbqben: #startvote Shall we foo? yes, no, abstain |
| 14:17 |
bshum |
I think without the parenthesis |
| 14:17 |
gmcharlt |
i.e., it looks for the question mark |
| 14:18 |
bshum |
Or yeah, the ? |
| 14:18 |
bbqben |
gmcharlt: ah its the parentheses - cheers |
| 14:18 |
bbqben |
#startvote To adopt the draft code of conduct as amended to include the OpenStack definition of harassment as examples Yes, No, Abstain |
| 14:18 |
kmlussier |
#vote Yes |
| 14:18 |
montgoc1 |
#vote Yes |
| 14:18 |
bshum |
Too many spaces leading I think that time. |
| 14:19 |
gmcharlt |
and you do need the quesiton mark |
| 14:20 |
bbqben |
trying again. |
| 14:20 |
bbqben |
#startvote Shall Evergreen adopt the draft code of conduct as amended to include the OpenStack definition of harassment as examples? Yes, No, Abstain |
| 14:20 |
pinesol_green |
Begin voting on: Shall Evergreen adopt the draft code of conduct as amended to include the OpenStack definition of harassment as examples? Valid vote options are Yes, No, Abstain. |
| 14:20 |
pinesol_green |
Vote using '#vote OPTION'. Only your last vote counts. |
| 14:20 |
kmlussier |
#vote Yes |
| 14:20 |
abneiman |
#vote Yes |
| 14:20 |
montgoc1 |
#vote Yes |
| 14:20 |
graced |
#vote Yes |
| 14:21 |
RoganH |
#vote Yes |
| 14:21 |
bbqben |
#vote Yes |
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bshum |
#vote Yes |
| 14:22 |
bbqben |
#endvote |
| 14:22 |
pinesol_green |
Voted on "Shall Evergreen adopt the draft code of conduct as amended to include the OpenStack definition of harassment as examples?" Results are |
| 14:22 |
pinesol_green |
Yes (7): kmlussier, abneiman, bbqben, graced, RoganH, montgoc1, bshum |
| 14:22 |
kmlussier |
Hooray! :) |
| 14:22 |
gmcharlt |
yay! |
| 14:23 |
graced |
bbqben++ Perseverence! |
| 14:23 |
RoganH |
bbqben++ |
| 14:23 |
bbqben |
graced: newb, with apologies. |
| 14:24 |
graced |
you're doing better than I would |
| 14:24 |
bbqben |
#action kmlussier to communicate code of conduct expansively |
| 14:24 |
bbqben |
#info Resource allocator summit next steps |
| 14:24 |
bbqben |
realizing that sborger should actually be doing that piece. |
| 14:25 |
bbqben |
#topic Resource Allocator summit next steps |
| 14:26 |
bbqben |
As I suggested by email - hoping we can discuss which of our actions is/are the top priority, following which perhaps we can call for volunteers to get started. |
| 14:27 |
bbqben |
for reference: http://libmail.georgialibraries.org/pipermail/open-ils-general/2014-March/009713.html |
| 14:28 |
bshum |
As a suggestion |
| 14:29 |
bbqben |
of the 6 bullet action items at bottom it seems to that focusing on the establishment of an emergency fund for the EG project encapsulates most if not all of the other items |
| 14:30 |
kmlussier |
bbqben: Would establishing an emergency fund include exploring methods for getting money into that funds? Whether those methods be grants, membership fees, etc. |
| 14:31 |
bbqben |
kmlussier: exactly, and what fees may apply etc |
| 14:31 |
graced |
kmlussier: And should we explore the revenue allocation to the SFC before we build the funds? |
| 14:31 |
montgoc1 |
graced: I think we should. |
| 14:31 |
graced |
This is a very chicken/egg set of action items. :) |
| 14:32 |
bshum |
I was going to suggest what graced says, that we need to look at what we're allocating to the SFC before we get too far in the process. |
| 14:32 |
bbqben |
graced: right, so discussing the ins and outs before actually establishing anything |
| 14:32 |
RoganH |
the allocation to the SFC derails the conversation every time it comes up so I think it should be dealt with |
| 14:33 |
graced |
Should we lump in the environmental scan of other initiatives along with reviewing our SFC allocation? It might be beneficial to do those at the same time. |
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| 14:34 |
bbqben |
so perhaps starting with the question for SFC "We are considering establishing an emergency fund for the project - what do we need to know; what examples can you point us to etc?" |
| 14:34 |
kmlussier |
Would that environmental scan be limited to initiatives that are part of the SFC or could we look at other open source initiatives? |
| 14:34 |
graced |
I'm open to expanding it. |
| 14:35 |
RoganH |
+1 to expanding it |
| 14:35 |
kmlussier |
I agree. |
| 14:36 |
bbqben |
Great! So, volunteers to (a) draft a terms of reference for the investigation into establishing an emergency fund, and (b) start investigating? |
| 14:37 |
kmlussier |
Well, since I'm the SFC rep, I guess I should volunteer. |
| 14:37 |
bbqben |
kmlussier: +1 I'll join you |
| 14:38 |
bshum |
I'd be interested to assist too. Since I'm curious about what other SFC projects do in this area. |
| 14:38 |
bbqben |
bhsum +1 |
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bbqben |
#action kmlussier bshum and bbqben to draft a TOR re: investigating the establishment of an emergency fund |
| 14:40 |
bbqben |
#topic Financial report |
| 14:40 |
bbqben |
gmcharlt +1 for making it available |
| 14:40 |
bshum |
gmcharlt: Who else presently knows how the ledger CLI works? |
| 14:41 |
gmcharlt |
bshum: dbs had used it back in the day, but I think it's just the two of us |
| 14:41 |
gmcharlt |
I'm happy to give a little presentation on it |
| 14:42 |
bbqben |
gmcharlt: that'd be great - cheers! |
| 14:43 |
gmcharlt |
ok, I'll propose a time; won't be for a couple weeks, though |
| 14:43 |
bbqben |
#action group mindmeld with gmcharlt re: Ledger CLI |
| 14:44 |
bbqben |
gmcharlt +1 |
| 14:44 |
bbqben |
#topic Evergreen 2.6 Release Manager's Update |
| 14:44 |
bbqben |
dbwells: how goes today? |
| 14:45 |
kmlussier |
dbwells usually introduces himself at the beginning of the meeting. He might not be around. |
| 14:46 |
dbwells |
Sorry, not *really* around, but can speak a little. 2.6 is cut. |
| 14:46 |
bbqben |
kmlussier: 10-4 - we'll watch for updates on the list |
| 14:46 |
graced |
dbwells++ |
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kmlussier |
dbwells++ |
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bbqben |
dbwells++ |
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gmcharlt |
dbwells++ |
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dbwells |
Still hoping for someone to give the "preview" of the download a run-through, but I'm not counting on it. I'll probably update the downloads page later today or tomorrow |
| 14:47 |
bbqben |
dbwells: thanks for the update |
| 14:47 |
dbwells |
I'll also send out a "close-out" email sometime next week. Thanks. |
| 14:47 |
bshum |
dbwells++ |
| 14:48 |
bbqben |
#info Evergreen 2014 Conference Committee Report |
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bbqben |
oops |
| 14:48 |
bbqben |
#topic Evergreen 2014 Conference Committee Report |
| 14:48 |
bbqben |
kmlussier: are you recovered? |
| 14:48 |
kmlussier |
Yes, I have! |
| 14:49 |
kmlussier |
I believe all of the invoices are in, and we should be able to close out the books on the conference over the next month. |
| 14:49 |
kmlussier |
We did receive a concession for the construction noise. Our fees for not reaching room attrition we waived. |
| 14:49 |
kmlussier |
Sorry, were waived. |
| 14:49 |
kmlussier |
And the survey results were positive. Overall, it was a good conference. |
| 14:50 |
kmlussier |
That is all. |
| 14:50 |
bbqben |
kmlussier ++ thanks to the entire crew |
| 14:50 |
graced |
kmlussier++ It was a great conference. |
| 14:50 |
gmcharlt |
kmlussier++ |
| 14:50 |
montgoc1 |
kmlussier++ I have heard nothing but positive comments about the conference. |
| 14:50 |
kmlussier |
Thanks all! |
| 14:51 |
bbqben |
#topic Evergreen 2015 Conference Site Selection status |
| 14:51 |
bbqben |
graced: are you able to provide an update? |
| 14:51 |
graced |
We received a wonderful proposal and we are finalizing some details with the site's representative now. |
| 14:51 |
graced |
Amy Terlaga will likely be sending out the confirmation within a few days. |
| 14:51 |
bbqben |
graced: wahoo! |
| 14:51 |
graced |
I won't steal her thunder. :) |
| 14:52 |
bbqben |
mystery, intrigue and thunder - excellent! |
| 14:52 |
bbqben |
#topic Standing Conference Planning Committee proposal |
| 14:53 |
bbqben |
kmlussier: you have the floor |
| 14:53 |
kmlussier |
This came out of our post mortem discussion for the conference. |
| 14:53 |
kmlussier |
Throughout the planning phase, I had been thinking it would be very useful if we had a standing conference committee so that local people aren't reinventing the wheel every year. |
| 14:54 |
kmlussier |
So I just wanted to float that idea by the EOB. I was thinking it could a committee that includes some reps who have planned previous conferences as well as some local reps. |
| 14:54 |
graced |
I agree with the idea wholeheartedly. |
| 14:54 |
kmlussier |
There are a few other people here who have planned past conferences, so I'm curious to hear if they think it's a good idea. |
| 14:55 |
bbqben |
kmlussier++ |
| 14:56 |
kmlussier |
I hadn't really thought further as to what the structure would be. |
| 14:57 |
bbqben |
kmlussier: want to think on that for the next meeting? |
| 14:57 |
kmlussier |
I can do that. I'll pull together something that's ready for a vote. |
| 14:58 |
bbqben |
#action kmlussier to draft Standing Conference Planning Committee proposal |
| 14:58 |
bbqben |
folks, I killed some time earlier - with apologies - shall we press on through items 9 and 10 or bring them forward to another day? |
| 14:59 |
montgoc1 |
Pressing on is fine with me. |
| 14:59 |
graced |
pressing on is okay for me |
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kmlussier |
Either way. The photography thing isn't time critical. |
| 15:01 |
bbqben |
ok, let's roll through 9 and 10 (no later than 15 after the hour then) |
| 15:01 |
bbqben |
#action Conference photography policy proposal |
| 15:01 |
bbqben |
omg |
| 15:02 |
bbqben |
#topic Conference photography policy proposal |
| 15:02 |
kmlussier |
This idea actually came from bshum. We had a volunteer taking pictures at this year's conference, and it made me realize we needed a better method for opt-in opt-out in place. |
| 15:02 |
kmlussier |
We did have a couple of people who did not want to be photographed, but it's really hard to identify them. |
| 15:03 |
kmlussier |
#link https://adainitiative.org/2013/07/another-way-to-attract-women-to-conferences-photography-policies/ |
| 15:03 |
kmlussier |
I thought the policy mentioned in the above link offered a good approach. |
| 15:03 |
kmlussier |
If others like the idea, I would be willing to work with bshum to draft something up. |
| 15:04 |
abneiman |
If it's not too hard, I like the idea of color-coding lanyards -- it's an easy visual |
| 15:04 |
bshum |
I saw it in practice when I went to the Google Summer of Code Mentor summit. I picked green, fwiw. |
| 15:04 |
montgoc1 |
zypper search |
| 15:04 |
bbqben |
bshum: love the colour palette of your mind ;) |
| 15:04 |
montgoc1 |
Oops. |
| 15:04 |
montgoc1 |
Sorry about that. |
| 15:05 |
graced |
+1 to the colored lanyards - I think it's a good policy. The lanyards are a very visible indicator. |
| 15:05 |
montgoc1 |
I like the lanyard approach. Easy to spot. |
| 15:06 |
bbqben |
#action kmlussier and bshum to draft a photography policy with inclusion of coloured layards |
| 15:06 |
bbqben |
#topic Reinstating community IRC meetings |
| 15:07 |
bbqben |
kmlussier: over to you |
| 15:08 |
bshum |
A note about community meetings (as someone who ran a few in the old days); I like the idea of them, but I would like to encourage that we use them for more discussion topic and space them out well. |
| 15:09 |
bshum |
One of the reasons I think it didn't work out in the long run was that it was basically a really long time for people to paste paragraphs about their various committees. |
| 15:09 |
bshum |
Which isn't bad, but I feel there's other ways of disseminating information. |
| 15:09 |
kmlussier |
Yes, I concur with what bshum said. There was a lot of discussion in the early meetings, but then they were just committee reports. |
| 15:10 |
kmlussier |
Still I think there is value in trying to get the community together on a regular basis between conferences. |
| 15:10 |
bshum |
kmlussier's suggestion of quarterly sounded nice though. And maybe we should do topic themes maybe? |
| 15:11 |
kmlussier |
bshum: Do you have any good topics in mind? |
| 15:11 |
bshum |
kmlussier: Not off the top of my head. I have a bunch of other dev things to juggle :) |
| 15:12 |
jl- |
I'm curious why \i auth_concerto.sql |
| 15:12 |
montgoc1 |
Were past meetings directed by the EOB? |
| 15:12 |
jl- |
in load_concerto.sql does not create an import table, but directly dumps it into authority.record_entry |
| 15:12 |
kmlussier |
Sure, I think topics are good, but I also think it's good to have places where the community can hear updates on what we're exploring for the community funding or, if the web team has done something new and interesting, to show it to the community. |
| 15:13 |
jl- |
vs. bibs_concerto.sql |
| 15:13 |
kmlussier |
montgoc1: No, they were mostly organized by bshum. |
| 15:13 |
kmlussier |
But I brought it up with the EOB last year because I thought it fit with our efforts to outreach more to the community. |
| 15:13 |
kmlussier |
jl-: We have a meeting going on right now, but we should be finishing up in just a minute. |
| 15:14 |
jl- |
sure, sry |
| 15:14 |
montgoc1 |
I see these meetings as a way for the broader community to not only get informed but also provide feedback -- depending on participation. |
| 15:14 |
bbqben |
conscious of time, propose that we comeback to this topic at the next meeting if thats ok |
| 15:15 |
kmlussier |
That's fine with me. In the meantime, maybe we can think a bit about what we might want to see happen at a community meeting. |
| 15:16 |
bbqben |
#action all - think on community IRC meetings vis a vis board strategy |
| 15:16 |
bbqben |
#info next meeting is 1100 Pacific 15.05.14 |
| 15:16 |
bbqben |
thanks all for enduring my hacks |
| 15:17 |
bbqben |
#endmeeting |
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pinesol_green |
Meeting ended Thu Apr 17 15:17:02 2014 US/Eastern. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) |
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pinesol_green |
Minutes: http://evergreen-ils.org/meetings/evergreen/2014/evergreen.2014-04-17-14.02.html |
| 15:17 |
pinesol_green |
Minutes (text): http://evergreen-ils.org/meetings/evergreen/2014/evergreen.2014-04-17-14.02.txt |
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pinesol_green |
Log: http://evergreen-ils.org/meetings/evergreen/2014/evergreen.2014-04-17-14.02.log.html |
| 15:17 |
kmlussier |
bbqben++ |
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graced |
bbqben++ |
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montgoc1 |
bbqben++ |
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gmcharlt |
bbqben++ |
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RoganH |
bbqben++ |
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Dyrcona |
bbqben++ # just on the nick alone. |
| 15:19 |
bbqben |
Drycona ;) |
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shart290 |
is the meeting over? |
| 15:37 |
phasefx |
shart290: yeap |
| 15:38 |
phasefx |
shart290: osrf_control --help |
| 15:38 |
shart290 |
right, got that |
| 15:39 |
phasefx |
hrmm, I'm not sure how to just start the router either looking at that :D |
| 15:39 |
shart290 |
I used --router-re-register-all and got no output whatsoever |
| 15:40 |
shart290 |
so I am checking error logging settings because I don't think I ever changed them back from level 4 when I tried the last time. |
| 15:40 |
phasefx |
--start --service router |
| 15:41 |
shart290 |
ok |
| 15:48 |
shart290 |
ugh |
| 15:48 |
shart290 |
system partition was only 10gb and somehow it's full already |
| 15:49 |
shart290 |
the --start --service router ran without complaint |
| 15:49 |
phasefx |
if you get that squared away, and --service router produces no errors in the logs, next step would be --start-services for the rest of it (looks like we don't have an equivalent to start_perl and start_c anymore) |
| 15:50 |
phasefx |
I would check the logs though, and not rely on no error showing up at the command line |
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phasefx |
grep \\[ERR /openils/var/log/* |
| 15:51 |
shart290 |
ok |
| 15:52 |
phasefx |
shart290: I'm stepping away for 15 minutes or so |
| 15:52 |
shart290 |
I need to stretch my legs anyhow. |
| 15:55 |
shart290 |
it |
| 15:55 |
shart290 |
it's quite a bit of errors |
| 15:58 |
ktomita |
Can you use marc_stream_importer.pl to import a marc file instead of a vandelay queue? |
| 15:58 |
pastebot |
"shart290" at 64.57.241.14 pasted "router error log output" (788 lines) at http://paste.evergreen-ils.org/65 |
| 16:02 |
shart290 |
no idea what that is |
| 16:04 |
shart290 |
Exception: OpenSRF::EX::Jabber 2014-04-17T15:03:19 OpenILS::Utils::Cronscript /usr/local/share/perl/5.14.2/OpenILS/Utils/Cronscript.pm:276 Jabber Exception: Could not open TCP socket to Jabber server: IO::Socket::INET: connect: Connection refused |
| 16:04 |
shart290 |
Exception: OpenSRF::EX::JabberDisconnected 2014-04-17T15:03:19 OpenSRF::Transport::SlimJabber::Client /usr/local/share/perl/5.14.2/OpenSRF/Transport/SlimJabber/Client.pm:199 JabberDisconnected Exception: This JabberClient instance is no longer connected to the server |
| 16:07 |
kmlussier |
ktomita: NOBLE is using marc_stream_importer to import marc files, but I don't have many details. |
| 16:07 |
kmlussier |
I know they are using some of the code at bug 1279998. |
| 16:07 |
pinesol_green |
Launchpad bug 1279998 in Evergreen "Support vandelay import match strategies in marc_stream_importer" (affected: 1, heat: 8) [Wishlist,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1279998 |
| 16:08 |
ktomita |
kmlussier: thanks. I will check that out. |
| 16:08 |
kmlussier |
ktomita: If you have any questions, you might want to send a message to the list. I'm sure they would be willing to describe how they are doing it. |
| 16:08 |
ktomita |
kmlussier: great idea |
| 16:09 |
bshum |
@later tell krvmga Irony, at the meeting I was at today, people were telling me how they *want* a link that switches search from KPAC to TPAC and retains search terms, etc. between searches so that kids can leave the catalog and go forth without starting all over. |
| 16:09 |
pinesol_green |
bshum: The operation succeeded. |
| 16:09 |
bshum |
So more ways out is our goal :) |
| 16:10 |
kmlussier |
bshum++ |
| 16:11 |
bshum |
kmlussier: Well they made a good case. For the kids in 4th/5th grade, they wanted to make it easier for kids to break out and start learning to use the "adult catalog" (sorry, it cracks me up every time) |
| 16:13 |
bshum |
shart290: That short log snippet makes me wonder why it's still trying to write to LOCALSTATEDIR and not whatever the configured path ought to have been. |
| 16:13 |
bshum |
shart290: It seems to me that something is awry with the opensrf.xml config file and that maybe not everything has been configured properly on the machine. |
| 16:15 |
shart290 |
I will check again but I swear i've done this 3 times already |
| 16:16 |
Dyrcona |
LOCALSTATEDIR gets replaced after configure and during make with the appropriate value based on your configure options. |
| 16:16 |
pastebot |
"shart290" at 64.57.241.14 pasted "opensrf.xml" (1236 lines) at http://paste.evergreen-ils.org/66 |
| 16:16 |
shart290 |
and I made sure that I did that last time. |
| 16:17 |
jeff |
it's worth noting that the error lines from that log file span a time interval of several hours. the earliest entries are quite possibly no longer relevant. |
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| 16:18 |
bshum |
jeff++ # good point :) |
| 16:18 |
shart290 |
All I am getting now is that the connection to the jabber server was refused. |
| 16:19 |
shart290 |
and the solution I was told was to make sure that my opensrf_core.xml file had all the correct user names and passwords |
| 16:19 |
shart290 |
which I did. |
| 16:19 |
Dyrcona |
shart290: ps ax | grep beam |
| 16:20 |
Dyrcona |
shart290: That should indicate whether or not erlang is running. If erlang is running, the ejabberd is probably running. |
| 16:21 |
shart290 |
ejabberd 10396 1 3 15:21 ? 00:00:00 /usr/lib/erlang/erts-5.9.1/bin/beam -K false -P 250000 -- -root /usr/lib/erlang -progname erl -- -home /var/lib/ejabberd -- -sname ejabberd -pa /usr/lib/ejabberd/ebin -s ejabberd -kernel inetrc "/etc/ejabberd/inetrc" -ejabberd config "/etc/ejabberd/ejabberd.cfg" log_path "/var/log/ejabberd/ejabberd.log" erlang_log_path "/var/log/ejabberd/erlang.log" -sasl sasl_error_logger false -m |
| 16:21 |
shart290 |
nesia dir "/var/lib/ejabberd" -smp disable -noshell -noshell -noinput |
| 16:21 |
shart290 |
opensrf 10449 7597 0 15:21 pts/3 00:00:00 grep -i beam |
| 16:22 |
shart290 |
it appears as such |
| 16:23 |
Dyrcona |
Yep. Just want to rule out the easy stuff, first. |
| 16:23 |
shart290 |
could this be it? |
| 16:24 |
shart290 |
osrf_control --localhost --start --service perl |
| 16:24 |
shart290 |
* perl is not configured to run on localhost |
| 16:24 |
jeff |
unlikely. there is no opensrf service in evergreen called "perl" |
| 16:24 |
shart290 |
it's in the troubleshooting guide: http://wiki.evergreen-ils.org/doku.php?id=troubleshooting:checking_for_errors |
| 16:24 |
jeff |
i'd be interested in what your /etc/hosts file looks like |
| 16:25 |
shart290 |
let me look |
| 16:25 |
shart290 |
127.0.0.1 localhost |
| 16:25 |
shart290 |
127.0.1.1 willett-library-server.ddhlibrary.uchicago.edu willett-library-server |
| 16:25 |
shart290 |
127.0.1.2 public.localhost |
| 16:25 |
shart290 |
127.0.1.3 private.localhost |
| 16:25 |
shart290 |
# The following lines are desirable for IPv6 capable hosts |
| 16:25 |
shart290 |
::1 localhost ip6-localhost ip6-loopback |
| 16:25 |
shart290 |
ff02::1 ip6-allnodes |
| 16:25 |
shart290 |
ff02::2 ip6-allrouters |
| 16:26 |
Dyrcona |
shart290: That troubleshooting guide was written before osrf_control existed. |
| 16:26 |
shart290 |
explains a lot. |
| 16:26 |
Dyrcona |
shart290: osrf_control --localhost --diagnostic |
| 16:27 |
Dyrcona |
That will lit what services are and are not running. |
| 16:27 |
jeff |
can you pastebin your opensrf_core.xml file, removing any passwords as needed? |
| 16:27 |
shart290 |
http://paste.evergreen-ils.org/66 |
| 16:28 |
jeff |
shart290: that looks like your opensrf.xml file, not the opensrf_core.xml file. |
| 16:28 |
shart290 |
oh, core...ok |
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shart290 |
http://pastebin.com/NPWF10Sr |
| 16:30 |
bshum |
I didn't know there was a loglevel 5? |
| 16:30 |
shart290 |
I was reading the docs |
| 16:31 |
bshum |
Nifty |
| 16:31 |
shart290 |
1-5 then 100 or something |
| 16:31 |
shart290 |
figured if 4 was handy 5 would be better |
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* bshum |
imagines that might make some huge logs |
| 16:31 |
shart290 |
yeah.... |
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* shart290 |
facepalms |
| 16:34 |
shart290 |
opensrfwillett-library-server:/openils/conf$ osrf_control --localhost --start-all |
| 16:34 |
shart290 |
* starting router and services for localhost |
| 16:34 |
shart290 |
* service router already running : 10463 10464 |
| 16:34 |
shart290 |
* starting services for localhost |
| 16:35 |
shart290 |
* starting service pid=11798 opensrf.settings |
| 16:35 |
shart290 |
* starting service pid=11806 open-ils.acq |
| 16:35 |
shart290 |
* starting service pid=11819 open-ils.booking |
| 16:35 |
shart290 |
* starting service pid=11827 open-ils.cat |
| 16:35 |
shart290 |
* starting service pid=11835 open-ils.supercat |
| 16:35 |
shart290 |
* starting service pid=11843 open-ils.search |
| 16:35 |
shart290 |
* starting service pid=11851 open-ils.circ |
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shart290 |
* starting service pid=11859 open-ils.actor |
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shart290 |
* starting service pid=11867 open-ils.auth_proxy |
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shart290 |
* starting service pid=11875 open-ils.storage |
| 16:35 |
shart290 |
* starting service pid=11883 open-ils.penalty |
| 16:35 |
shart290 |
* starting service pid=11891 open-ils.justintime |
| 16:35 |
shart290 |
* starting service pid=11899 open-ils.collections |
| 16:35 |
shart290 |
* starting service pid=11907 open-ils.ingest |
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shart290 |
* starting service pid=11915 open-ils.reporter |
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shart290 |
* starting service pid=11923 open-ils.permacrud |
| 16:35 |
shart290 |
* starting service pid=11931 open-ils.trigger |
| 16:35 |
shart290 |
* starting service pid=11939 open-ils.url_verify |
| 16:35 |
shart290 |
* starting service pid=11947 open-ils.fielder |
| 16:35 |
shart290 |
* starting service pid=11955 open-ils.vandelay |
| 16:35 |
shart290 |
* starting service pid=11963 open-ils.serial |
| 16:35 |
shart290 |
* starting service pid=11972 opensrf.math |
| 16:35 |
shart290 |
* starting service pid=11982 opensrf.dbmath |
| 16:35 |
shart290 |
* starting service pid=11993 open-ils.auth |
| 16:35 |
shart290 |
* starting service pid=12010 open-ils.cstore |
| 16:35 |
shart290 |
* starting service pid=12037 open-ils.reporter-store |
| 16:35 |
shart290 |
* starting service pid=12073 open-ils.pcrud |
| 16:35 |
shart290 |
chmod -R opensrf /openils/ |
| 16:36 |
shart290 |
>.< |
| 16:36 |
shart290 |
apparently the permissions were changed somehow |
| 16:36 |
shart290 |
though srfsh still won't login |
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| 16:38 |
shart290 |
no data received from server |
| 16:39 |
bshum |
So you started all the services, but what do the logs say now? |
| 16:40 |
shart290 |
getting another pastebin link |
| 16:40 |
Dyrcona |
bshum: Don't use log level 5 for very long. |
| 16:40 |
Dyrcona |
It will fill your drive in a heartbeat or two in production. :) |
| 16:40 |
bshum |
Dyrcona: I don't think I've ever pumped my log levels that high before. |
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| 16:40 |
Dyrcona |
I have on a dev server. |
| 16:40 |
Dyrcona |
Ran out of disk space over a weekend when nothing really was going on. |
| 16:42 |
shart290 |
no, I reduced it to 4 before proceeding. disk space was definitely becoming an issue |
| 16:43 |
pastebot |
"shart290" at 64.57.241.14 pasted "errors" (5944 lines) at http://paste.evergreen-ils.org/67 |
| 16:43 |
shart290 |
and thats osrfsys.log |
| 16:43 |
shart290 |
used grep \\[ERR ./*.log > err.txt |
| 16:43 |
Dyrcona |
Well, your services can't talk to your database. |
| 16:44 |
shart290 |
if I run eg_db_configure again with all parameters, since I am dealing with an empty database will that help? |
| 16:44 |
jeff |
DBI connections are getting "connection refused" and XMPP connections are getting "connection refused". interesting. |
| 16:45 |
bshum |
Wacky firewall? |
| 16:45 |
shart290 |
it's all local |
| 16:45 |
* bshum |
has done that to himself on Ubuntu before |
| 16:45 |
Dyrcona |
postgres probably needs to the localhost allowed. |
| 16:45 |
jeff |
my next step is usually "lsof -n -i | grep LISTEN" -- you might need to install lsof with something like "aptitude lsof" or "apt-get install lsof" |
| 16:45 |
shart290 |
fresh install of Debian 7 |
| 16:45 |
Dyrcona |
in whatever file that is |
| 16:46 |
shart290 |
no output for the lsof command |
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| 16:47 |
jeff |
that's quite unusual. |
| 16:47 |
shart290 |
would I do lsof -n -i | grep unix? |
| 16:47 |
bshum |
Run it as the root user |
| 16:48 |
bshum |
Or put sudo in front of it |
| 16:48 |
jeff |
shart290: no, you'd do grep LISTEN |
| 16:48 |
jeff |
and yes, you'll want to be running lsof as root -- sorry |
| 16:48 |
shart290 |
ok, sudo got somethign |
| 16:48 |
bshum |
:) |
| 16:48 |
jeff |
bshum++ |
| 16:48 |
shart290 |
quite a bit of something |
| 16:48 |
* bshum |
is just following along at home too |
| 16:50 |
shart290 |
sudo lsof -n -i | grep opensrf | grep LISTEN returns |
| 16:50 |
shart290 |
/usr/sbin 9926 opensrf 5u IPv6 91958 0t0 TCP *:http (LISTEN) |
| 16:50 |
shart290 |
/usr/sbin 9926 opensrf 7u IPv6 91962 0t0 TCP *:https (LISTEN) |
| 16:50 |
shart290 |
/usr/sbin 9927 opensrf 5u IPv6 91958 0t0 TCP *:http (LISTEN) |
| 16:50 |
shart290 |
/usr/sbin 9927 opensrf 7u IPv6 91962 0t0 TCP *:https (LISTEN) |
| 16:50 |
shart290 |
/usr/sbin 9928 opensrf 5u IPv6 91958 0t0 TCP *:http (LISTEN) |
| 16:50 |
shart290 |
/usr/sbin 9928 opensrf 7u IPv6 91962 0t0 TCP *:https (LISTEN) |
| 16:50 |
shart290 |
/usr/sbin 9929 opensrf 5u IPv6 91958 0t0 TCP *:http (LISTEN) |
| 16:50 |
shart290 |
/usr/sbin 9929 opensrf 7u IPv6 91962 0t0 TCP *:https (LISTEN) |
| 16:50 |
shart290 |
/usr/sbin 9930 opensrf 5u IPv6 91958 0t0 TCP *:http (LISTEN) |
| 16:50 |
shart290 |
/usr/sbin 9930 opensrf 7u IPv6 91962 0t0 TCP *:https (LISTEN) |
| 16:51 |
jeff |
shart290: please use paste.evergreen-ils.org -- large pastes directly to channel end up being rate limited at one line per second. |
| 16:51 |
bshum |
Or any of the other pastes you've been using would be fine too |
| 16:51 |
jeff |
shart290: also, the additional "grep opensrf" has made the output useless -- can you run the original "lsof -n -i | grep LISTEN" command and paste its output to paste.evergreen-ils.org? |
| 16:52 |
pastebot |
"shart290" at 64.57.241.14 pasted "lsof output" (186 lines) at http://paste.evergreen-ils.org/68 |
| 16:52 |
jeff |
(yes, paste.evergreen-ils.org is just one useful example that doesn't have annoying video ads featuring "shocking" double entendres) |
| 16:53 |
bshum |
No 5432 anywhere |
| 16:53 |
bshum |
Hmm |
| 16:53 |
jeff |
bshum: xmpp-client and xmpp-server |
| 16:53 |
bshum |
Oh I'm not thinking with my head; sorry was thinking about postgres |
| 16:55 |
jeff |
the /etc/hosts file appears correct, the opensrf_core.xml file seems to list the correct ejabberd domains, yet the errors were "connection refused" for xmpp. |
| 16:55 |
pinesol_green |
[evergreen|Dan Wells] Rejigger 2.4.3-2.5.0 upgrade bits - <http://git.evergreen-ils.org/?p=Evergreen.git;a=commit;h=4e42469> |
| 16:55 |
Dyrcona |
paste.lisp.org doesn't have ads either. |
| 16:55 |
jeff |
but bshum raises a good point -- postgresql does not appear to be listening on any port. |
| 16:55 |
shart290 |
allow/enable on localhost? |
| 16:55 |
bshum |
What does ejabberd's config look like? |
| 16:56 |
pinesol_green |
Incoming from qatests: Test Success - http://testing.evergreen-ils.org/~live/test.html <http://testing.evergreen-ils.org/~live/test.html> |
| 16:56 |
bshum |
Maybe the listen addresses aren't quite right? |
| 16:57 |
pastebot |
"shart290" at 64.57.241.14 pasted "ejabberd.cfg" (644 lines) at http://paste.evergreen-ils.org/69 |
| 16:58 |
jeff |
shart290: when you issue this command, do you get some XML back containing xml-not-well-formed? echo foo | nc localhost 5222 |
| 16:59 |
jeff |
and if that works, do you get a similar thing when you do "echo foo | nc private.localhost 5222" and "echo foo | nc public.localhost 5222"? |
| 16:59 |
shart290 |
not well formed |
| 17:00 |
shart290 |
all of them are pointing to exactly what you are saying |
| 17:00 |
shart290 |
not well formed blah blah blah |
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pastebot |
"shart290" at 64.57.241.14 pasted "echo foo | nc localhost 5222" (5 lines) at http://paste.evergreen-ils.org/70 |
| 17:02 |
jeff |
all of that is as expected. good, i think. |
| 17:03 |
jeff |
shart290: i'd look into why postgresql doesn't appear to be listening. try starting it via the standard means, like /etc/init.d/postgresql start |
| 17:03 |
jeff |
or service postgresql start |
| 17:03 |
jeff |
depending, you may have a version number in the service name. |
| 17:04 |
bshum |
In the meantime, I'd stop all the openils services. So that you don't clog up your server while you look at postgresql |
| 17:04 |
shart290 |
seems like that might have been it lsof shows postgres listening. |
| 17:05 |
pastebot |
"shart290" at 64.57.241.14 pasted "postgrs start" (37 lines) at http://paste.evergreen-ils.org/71 |
| 17:08 |
shart290 |
I was hoping to have this done today... |
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* shart290 |
falls forehead to the desk in the existing dent in the desk |
| 17:08 |
shart290 |
yeah |
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shart290 |
anyone please... |
| 17:14 |
shart290 |
postgresql appears to be listening, I included the lsof paste from after I ran /etc/init.d/postgresql start |
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shart290 |
I am going to have to go, I need to get home. |
| 17:24 |
shart290 |
thank you everyone for your help so far. this has been interesting. I'll have to be back at it tomorrow. |
| 17:25 |
shart290 |
bshum++ jeff++ |
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shart290 |
is anyone here? |
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