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jboyer-isl |
I love the smell of deadlocks in the morning. |
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jboyer-isl |
Wait, no. |
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| 09:49 |
csharp |
anyone here using address alerts? |
| 09:50 |
csharp |
I'm seeking documentation to how/why they are used |
| 09:53 |
bshum |
If memory serves, I believe those are used for validating address data. Basically warn if it matches a particular set of criteria. |
| 09:54 |
bshum |
Something like, if the town matches A, then show alert about how A is no longer a member and that actually it's now covered by town B. Or other random messages. |
| 09:55 |
bshum |
Or like if you're in a particular zip code and there needs to be an alert of some kind. |
| 09:57 |
bshum |
Or maybe I'm just making that up and that's not the feature you're talking about at all... |
| 09:58 |
bshum |
Oh yeah, Address Alert, like in local admin? |
| 09:58 |
bshum |
csharp: That's a 2.2 feature: http://docs.evergreen-ils.org/2.2/_new_features.html |
| 09:58 |
bshum |
I think that's the only place it gets a mention |
| 10:00 |
bshum |
csharp: Also see notes in the original bug ticket on that feature: https://bugs.launchpad.net/evergreen/+bug/898248 |
| 10:00 |
pinesol_green |
Launchpad bug 898248 in Evergreen "Address alert in patron registration" (affected: 1, heat: 6) [Wishlist,Fix released] |
| 10:00 |
bshum |
berick gives a few examples of how to use it. |
| 10:04 |
* berick |
thinks bshum summed it up nicely |
| 10:06 |
jboyer-isl |
Wait, no. |
| 10:06 |
jboyer-isl |
Oops. wrong window. |
| 10:11 |
bshum |
berick: The only thing I'm unsure is whether this feature still works in 2.3+. With those, the comments portion of the registration window don't always display properly. (thinking of the field documentation bits that don't work right now) |
| 10:11 |
bshum |
I'd have to look closer to see how it renders. |
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| 10:12 |
berick |
bshum: oh, i see, i wasn't aware stuff was busted in there. |
| 10:13 |
bshum |
berick: We used to use field docs, but after our upgrade to newer masters (around 2.3's time), it stopped working. |
| 10:13 |
bshum |
Nobody missed it enough to really complain yet though. |
| 10:13 |
bshum |
Plus there's the new YAOUS to show examples next to all the stuff we used to use field docs for showing examples for. |
| 10:14 |
bshum |
But yeah, I'm not entirely sure the CSS renders right for the comments anymore. |
| 10:14 |
* bshum |
hasn't tested it lately |
| 10:18 |
bshum |
if I get a moment later, I'll poke at it some and file a bug if I still see issues. |
| 10:18 |
* bshum |
wanders off for meetings |
| 10:38 |
csharp |
bshum++ berick++ # thanks |
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| 10:54 |
csharp |
oh cool - now I see the alert |
| 10:55 |
tsbere |
Fun: Staff client fails to validate server. Computer next to it is fine. Internet works. Etc and so forth. |
| 10:55 |
tsbere |
Reason? The clock was wrong on the computer. >_> |
| 10:56 |
jboyer-isl |
tsbere: my favorite ssl failure mode. |
| 10:57 |
tsbere |
jboyer-isl: Wouldn't have been a problem if our cert wasn't a couple weeks away from expiring. >_> |
| 10:59 |
jboyer-isl |
Oh. I've not heard of machines failing because they're from the future. I usually see that once the clock battery dies. "This cert isn't valid for 20 years! I'm not talking to them." |
| 11:02 |
csharp |
heh |
| 11:03 |
csharp |
I remember a patron who called us complaining that all of his holds were being cancelled right after he placed them |
| 11:03 |
csharp |
it was because his clock was over a year off and all the entered expire dates were in the past |
| 11:04 |
csharp |
(took a while to track that down) |
| 11:05 |
jboyer-isl |
You mess with the timestream, you get the timehorns. |
| 11:05 |
csharp |
unrelated to that issue, but when I'd call the guy, he'd pick up the phone and not say anything, then I'd hear a *splat* and he'd say "you caught me brushing my teeth!" |
| 11:05 |
csharp |
that happened more than once... |
| 11:05 |
remingtron |
csharp: I cannot stop laughing |
| 11:06 |
csharp |
he was a weird dude ;-) |
| 11:07 |
* csharp |
still thinks someone would have a gold mine on their hands with a sitcom set in a public library |
| 11:08 |
csharp |
you wouldn't even have to make things up |
| 11:09 |
jboyer-isl |
Someone actually wrote and shopped around a script for that. It didn't get picked up and now just sits in the ibooks store. |
| 11:10 |
csharp |
heh - I didn't know that |
| 11:12 |
jboyer-isl |
"The Library" by Scott Douglas and Andy Sweat, from 2009. It wasn't bad, but I don't think I'd tune in each week. |
| 11:12 |
csharp |
I think Unshelved should just rework some of its strips into a show and go for it |
| 11:13 |
jboyer-isl |
Animated webisodes. It's a viable business model if you can say the word webisodes without throwing up. |
| 11:13 |
csharp |
jboyer-isl++ |
| 11:14 |
jboyer-isl |
It's a shame I missed halloween: Webinars about webisodes. The way of the future! |
| 11:14 |
dbs |
webinarsodes |
| 11:15 |
dbs |
webisodinars |
| 11:15 |
jboyer-isl |
I like webisodinars. |
| 11:15 |
jboyer-isl |
dbs++ |
| 11:15 |
dbs |
I'm just here for comic relief |
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| 13:29 |
rfrasur |
is there anyone in here who could give me some info/answer questions about FulfILLment? |
| 13:30 |
bshum |
rfrasur: There might be a few folks who know a thing or two |
| 13:30 |
bshum |
There's also a #fulfillment IRC channel, but it's pretty quiet over there |
| 13:30 |
rfrasur |
also, jboyer-isl: is that nice little notifications button not on the splash screen yet? |
| 13:30 |
rfrasur |
bshum: do you know who I should ping? |
| 13:30 |
berick |
rfrasur: probably best to ask here |
| 13:31 |
bshum |
It's logged in both places |
| 13:31 |
rfrasur |
okay...my question is, is it supposed to be a union catalog? and does it include some of the eg functionality or is it completely independent code? (is there such a thing?) |
| 13:32 |
berick |
rfrasur: it is supposed to be a union catalog and it's basically Evergreen w/ some additions and changes |
| 13:32 |
jboyer-isl |
rfrausr: I didn't realize what I was getting into. I thought the notices would be laid out similar to my reconciler (1 sys = 1 directory). I was crazy wrong. There are some systems that have a single directory, some that have one for each location, I think I saw one that had both. That's got to be cleaned up before I can stick it in the client. :( |
| 13:33 |
rfrasur |
jboyer-isl: no worries. I just noticed it not there as I was looking at the new screen. It's cool. |
| 13:34 |
rfrasur |
berick: is it still in development? dead in the water (is code ever dead?)? a pipe dream? |
| 13:35 |
berick |
rfrasur: it's still in development. graced and I have submitted an EG talk proposal on FF |
| 13:35 |
graced |
rfrasur: but it works and we're making it pretty now... |
| 13:37 |
rfrasur |
okay...thank you. It came up in a meeting I was in this morning and realized that I don't know enough about it. |
| 13:37 |
graced |
rfrasur: feel free to email me for any details - or ask here, whichever. :-) |
| 13:38 |
rfrasur |
graced: thank you. As these conversations come up more locally, I'm sure I'll have more questions. I get the basic gist of the thing for now. |
| 13:39 |
graced |
cool |
| 13:42 |
rfrasur |
berick: you've submitted a talk for the conference? |
| 13:43 |
graced |
rfrasur: yes berick and I submitted a co-presented talk (and demo!) on FulfILLment for EG 2014. |
| 13:44 |
rfrasur |
ahhh, gotcha. lovely. Hope it gets chosen. I'd like to go to it. |
| 13:45 |
graced |
I'd like to present it! I'm really excited about FulfILLment. |
| 13:45 |
phasefx_ |
we be fILL'n |
| 13:46 |
rfrasur |
lol, nice |
| 13:46 |
rfrasur |
phasefx_++ |
| 13:46 |
berick |
rfrasur: i submitted 1.5 talks ;) |
| 13:46 |
rfrasur |
lol, 1.5. Nice. |
| 13:47 |
* rfrasur |
is trying to talk less. |
| 13:47 |
graced |
and let's face it, since I am a chatty cathy, it's really only 1.15 talks for berick |
| 13:47 |
rfrasur |
graced++ |
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| 14:04 |
eeevil |
anyone else having trouble pushing code to the working repo? |
| 14:06 |
pastebot |
"eeevil" at 64.57.241.14 pasted "can't push to the working repo" (11 lines) at http://paste.evergreen-ils.org/33 |
| 14:07 |
eeevil |
nevermind ... I'm dumb, and dbwells helpfully pointed it out |
| 14:08 |
rfrasur |
hehe, always good to have a friend point out our dumbness |
| 14:08 |
eeevil |
dbwells: btw, there's that branch ;) |
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| 14:32 |
bshum |
gmcharlt: http://evergreen-ils.org/sfc/ does exist, but we don't link to it on any menu I can find at the moment. I think the reason is that I was still wrestling with fixing the image size and figuring out how to present all the information... |
| 14:33 |
gmcharlt |
bshum: I suggesting removing the Google checkout link and adding it to the menu soonish |
| 14:33 |
gmcharlt |
we can always fine-tune it later |
| 14:34 |
bshum |
gmcharlt: Sounds like a good plan. I'll go poke at the page now and then get the link up there. Fine-tuning it can go onto the next web team meeting agenda (not that I know when the next meeting is) |
| 14:37 |
csharp |
I'm beginning to look at the link checker and am looking for sane defaults for the four related library settings |
| 14:39 |
csharp |
right now I have max redirect attempts set to 4, max wait time for url lookup, 30 secs, number of parallel URLs to lookup: 10, and number of seconds between URL test attempts: 2 |
| 14:39 |
csharp |
if you're using this, would you mind sharing your settings? |
| 14:40 |
bshum |
gmcharlt: I'm going to rename that page from "sfc" to "conservancy" since we're not linking to it yet anyways, but also because of the name changes from ages back |
| 14:41 |
gmcharlt |
sounds good |
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| 15:02 |
bshum |
gmcharlt: http://evergreen-ils.org/conservancy is the "slightly" retouched page. |
| 15:02 |
bshum |
I'll link it off the main "About Us" menu link now. |
| 15:02 |
gmcharlt |
bshum++ |
| 15:03 |
bshum |
And done. |
| 15:03 |
RoganH |
So Google Checkout is finally dead (or at least officially dying). |
| 15:04 |
RoganH |
I've had the tragedy of spending all day taste testing BBQ for the catering for our south east conference. A horrible work day. |
| 15:05 |
bshum |
RoganH: That just makes me want to book a flight south. |
| 15:05 |
gmcharlt |
RoganH: we all would have been happy to share some of the load |
| 15:05 |
gmcharlt |
all you had to do was ask |
| 15:05 |
RoganH |
gmcharlt: I'd be glad to have you. |
| 15:05 |
RoganH |
bshum: you too, glad to have you here |
| 15:06 |
dbs |
bshum: need a space in "contactaccounting" |
| 15:07 |
bshum |
Gah |
| 15:07 |
bshum |
dbs: I'm on it |
| 15:07 |
csharp |
bshum: there's talk of a southeastern regional EG conference somewhere in Carolina barbeque land ;-) |
| 15:08 |
bshum |
dbs: Should be better now. |
| 15:08 |
* rfrasur |
likes bbque |
| 15:08 |
csharp |
@karma bbq |
| 15:08 |
pinesol_green |
csharp: bbq has neutral karma. |
| 15:08 |
csharp |
bbq++ |
| 15:08 |
rfrasur |
bbq++ |
| 15:08 |
rfrasur |
all the great minds |
| 15:09 |
bshum |
dbs++ #for proofing the page. |
| 15:10 |
dbs |
bshum++ |
| 15:10 |
dbs |
bbqshum++ |
| 15:11 |
rfrasur |
dbs++ #clever |
| 15:21 |
rfrasur |
Navigating that fine line between informative and confrontational is hard. |
| 15:38 |
RoganH |
bshum: got a sec? |
| 15:39 |
bshum |
RoganH: Sure, what's up? |
| 15:40 |
RoganH |
bshum: our south east conference is official so ... |
| 15:40 |
RoganH |
bshum: following up on the decision in the web group a few months ago we need to spin up serec.evergreen-ils.org |
| 15:43 |
bshum |
RoganH: This is just my thinking (and everyone else is welcome to comment on this)... |
| 15:48 |
bshum |
RoganH: For a conference page, I'm thinking maybe to follow what we did with EG2014 |
| 15:48 |
bshum |
And go with http://evergreen-ils.org/conference/eg14/ |
| 15:48 |
bshum |
Except instead of eg14, like serec14 |
| 15:48 |
RoganH |
Do it as a sub page? |
| 15:48 |
bshum |
And then link to it on the main conferences page as an "upcoming conference" |
| 15:48 |
bshum |
Yeah, that's just my gut feeling |
| 15:48 |
bshum |
But what do others think? |
| 15:49 |
RoganH |
(my wordpress terminology is probably off but yes, that's what I was thinking you meant) |
| 15:49 |
RoganH |
I'm fine with that. So long as it's easy to reach I really don't care. |
| 15:49 |
RoganH |
I can do that in Wordpress and not bother you as well. Bonus :) |
| 15:50 |
bshum |
Heh |
| 15:50 |
bshum |
Yeah, I think that'll work best |
| 15:51 |
bshum |
And would fit the pattern we're developing for the current conference and future ones |
| 15:51 |
RoganH |
Deal. I'll do that. |
| 16:01 |
bshum |
RoganH++ |
| 16:02 |
pinesol_green |
[evergreen|Remington Steed] Clean up 2.5 upgrade instructions - <http://git.evergreen-ils.org/?p=Evergreen.git;a=commit;h=8c7bbda> |
| 16:07 |
eeevil |
remingtron: I'm gonna guess that dbwells got to me first about the things you wanted to discuss yesterday, yes? push/map syntax |
| 16:08 |
remingtron |
eeevil: yessir |
| 16:08 |
remingtron |
all is well |
| 16:09 |
eeevil |
cool |
| 16:14 |
pinesol_green |
[evergreen|Mike Rylander] Use all subfield values to link authority records to bibs - <http://git.evergreen-ils.org/?p=Evergreen.git;a=commit;h=840fbb5> |
| 16:14 |
pinesol_green |
[evergreen|Mike Rylander] Add --refresh mode to completely rewrite linking - <http://git.evergreen-ils.org/?p=Evergreen.git;a=commit;h=23559e2> |
| 16:35 |
dbwells |
grabbing 0847 |
| 16:45 |
remingtron |
I'm trying to view the TPAC in a different language, but no success. Anyone know how? |
| 16:45 |
remingtron |
I tried FF about:config variables |
| 16:47 |
paxed |
you need to enable languages in the eg_vhost.conf |
| 16:47 |
paxed |
OILSWebLocale |
| 16:50 |
remingtron |
paxed++ #works! thanks |
| 16:54 |
pinesol_green |
[evergreen|Mike Rylander] Add indicators; Remove junk tags - <http://git.evergreen-ils.org/?p=Evergreen.git;a=commit;h=8419752> |
| 16:54 |
pinesol_green |
[evergreen|Dan Wells] Stamping 0847: improved auth overlay generation - <http://git.evergreen-ils.org/?p=Evergreen.git;a=commit;h=bdfb29a> |
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