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paxed |
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rfrasur |
Happy Monday. |
| 09:21 |
Dyrcona |
Email is down. The network is in disarray, but other than that, 'tis a beautiful day. |
| 09:22 |
rfrasur |
Dyrcona++ |
| 09:23 |
rfrasur |
I have nothing good to say although I also have no concrete reasons for having nothing good to say. |
| 09:23 |
* rfrasur |
shall operate outside the realm of mood today. |
| 09:23 |
* tsbere |
is re-assembling said network one problem at a time <_< |
| 09:24 |
rfrasur |
tsbere++ |
| 09:24 |
rfrasur |
to which I say again...Happy Monday |
| 09:25 |
Dyrcona |
tsbere++ #indeed |
| 09:25 |
rfrasur |
I really just don't like working in the summer at all. |
| 09:26 |
* csharp |
has always worked in the summer since college but still feels robbed somehow when he doesn't have the summer off |
| 09:27 |
rfrasur |
man, me too. hmm, oh...not true. I worked in the school system for several years, but still had to get a summer job. |
| 09:27 |
* rfrasur |
just wants to stay home and play in the yard and go swimming and eat watermelon. |
| 09:27 |
rfrasur |
is that so much to ask? |
| 09:27 |
rfrasur |
@hate incessant adult responsibility |
| 09:27 |
pinesol_green |
rfrasur: The operation succeeded. rfrasur hates incessant adult responsibility. |
| 09:32 |
paxed |
the weather is at least wonderful over here. |
| 09:32 |
paxed |
supposed to hit over 30 C later this week. |
| 09:33 |
rfrasur |
mmmmmmmm....it's pretty gorgeous here, too. A little humid but that's my preference anyway. |
| 09:33 |
rfrasur |
self basting weather |
| 09:38 |
rfrasur |
on another note, only librarians could take seriously a term like "bookgate." |
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paxed |
ugh |
| 10:25 |
paxed |
normalizing names revels all kinds of ugly wrong data |
| 10:25 |
paxed |
reveals* |
| 10:26 |
dbs |
yes, when faceted interfaces were first unleashed, the horrors were unveiled |
| 10:27 |
paxed |
but otoh, it feels to great when you can just whip up an sql query to find out things |
| 10:28 |
paxed |
s/ to / so / |
| 10:29 |
dbs |
I guess QP should short-circuit on searches for '', rather than generating SQL errors about ':*' not being a valid text search. heh. |
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Dyrcona |
@hate Java, the language, not the place, nor the beverage, though I'm not too fond of coffee, unless it comes with brandy and ice cream. |
| 10:43 |
pinesol_green |
Dyrcona: The operation succeeded. Dyrcona hates Java, the language, not the place, nor the beverage, though I'm not too fond of coffee, unless it comes with brandy and ice cream.. |
| 10:43 |
rfrasur |
the whole combination of coffee, brandy and ice cream is almost too awesome to consider on a Monday morning. |
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csharp |
caveats++ |
| 11:13 |
dbs |
request open-ils.search open-ils.search.biblio.multiclass.query {} "title: " -- anyone expect that to return results? |
| 11:14 |
* csharp |
tries it |
| 11:14 |
pastebot |
"dbs" at 204.193.129.146 pasted "Search for title: returns... stuff!? See especially the compiled_search.searches" (36 lines) at http://paste.evergreen-ils.org/22 |
| 11:14 |
csharp |
dbs: same here (2.3.6_ |
| 11:15 |
pastebot |
"csharp" at 204.193.129.146 pasted "search results" (67 lines) at http://paste.evergreen-ils.org/23 |
| 11:16 |
csharp |
oh - I see - your "searches" is empty |
| 11:17 |
dbs |
csharp: heh, thanks, but yeah, I was deliberately searching for a non-existent search term |
| 11:17 |
csharp |
oh - I can do that too |
| 11:18 |
csharp |
hmm - I got results too |
| 11:19 |
pastebot |
"csharp" at 204.193.129.146 pasted "what dbs *actually* was doing" (75 lines) at http://paste.evergreen-ils.org/24 |
| 11:19 |
csharp |
eww - 9180 hits |
| 11:21 |
csharp |
working in a consortium like ours is like living in a house where every time you open a closet door, piles of old stuff fall out all over the place |
| 11:21 |
dbs |
log is funny for that: compiled search is {"estimation_strategy":"inclusion","skip_check":0,"limit":"1000","check_limit":"1000","core_limit":10000,"searches":{},"offset":0} |
| 11:21 |
dbs |
mebbe I can throw in a short-circuit for searches being non-empty :) |
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rfrasur |
people_who_get_upset_that_we_don_t_keep_an_entire_print_version_of_the_Indiana_Code-- |
| 11:41 |
bradl |
csharp: I expected that sentence to end with "hoards of feral cats fall out all over the place" |
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AaronZ-PLS |
Is there any way to see who last edited a hold? We have a patron who's items were cancled with the reason of "Hold Shelf expiration"~26 hours after they were put on the holds shelf, but the shelf expire time for that library is 7 days (as confirmed by the "Shelf Expire Time" field) and I dont see a "Last Editor" field in the DB |
| 11:43 |
rfrasur |
AaronZ-PLS:The "edited by" shown in the Item Status screen should be that last editor. |
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rfrasur |
You can also see it in the item status screen, I believe. |
| 11:43 |
rfrasur |
hmm, -status +attributes |
| 11:44 |
AaronZ-PLS |
Hmmm, will have to look in the audit logs as it has goen in transit since then |
| 11:44 |
AaronZ-PLS |
*gone |
| 11:44 |
rfrasur |
Yeah, you can find it in the item attributes screen, for sure. Of course, if you have people logging in using a common ID, that might not help |
| 11:46 |
rfrasur |
As far as the audit logs go, I'm of no help with that. |
| 11:46 |
AaronZ-PLS |
We have a common id (2 of them, a circ and a tech, tech can also do holdings maint stuff), but it lets them narrow it down to the x people who were on the shift at that time |
| 11:46 |
rfrasur |
yep |
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| 11:48 |
Dyrcona |
AaronZ-PLS: Seeing who edited the copy won't show you who (if anyone) edited the hold. |
| 11:48 |
Dyrcona |
AaronZ-PLS: Unless you are logging changes to the holds to an auditor table, I don't think you can see who last touched a hold. |
| 11:49 |
dbs |
request open-ils.search open-ils.search.biblio.multiclass.query {} "title: *" -- another fun one. "SHOW ME ALL THE THINGS" |
| 11:49 |
rfrasur |
dbs: Is that a real query? |
| 11:50 |
dbs |
rfrasur: yeah. you can search for a naked * on any catalogue, and wildcare to abandon |
| 11:50 |
dbs |
wildcard |
| 11:51 |
Dyrcona |
People do all kinds of ridiculous things. |
| 11:51 |
* rfrasur |
is imagining. |
| 11:51 |
* rfrasur |
stops. |
| 11:52 |
AaronZ-PLS |
Dyrcona: Those are being logged, but it doesnt record who edited the hold. It does show who put the item in transit 2 minutes after canceling the hold though |
| 11:52 |
AaronZ-PLS |
:D |
| 11:52 |
rfrasur |
library forensics |
| 11:56 |
AaronZ-PLS |
The holds were canceled with the reason of "Shelf Expired" at 18:24 and 18:26. The items then went from "On Holds Shelf" to "Reshelving" then to "In Transit" at 18:27 and 18:28. Not enough for a court of law, but close enough to say that the same person probbaly did it and close the ticket. |
| 11:58 |
rfrasur |
they cancelled the hold to transet the material to another library? |
| 11:58 |
rfrasur |
s/transet/transit |
| 11:58 |
phasefx |
with those timestamps you might be able to search actual log files and find something |
| 11:59 |
paxed |
hm. what would be the best way to edit config.xml_transform to test something? can i invoke $EDITOR in psql and edit field content? |
| 12:00 |
AaronZ-PLS |
rfrasur: They canceled the holds, then checked them in which probbaly targeted the items for holds elswhere. Not sure what the intent was. |
| 12:01 |
AaronZ-PLS |
phasefx: We could, but AFAIK they dont have assigned terminals and it was almost a week ago, so its probbaly not worth it. |
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dbs |
aha. figured out that all those "text-search query doesn't contain lexemes" SQL errors are coming from searches like "big : bad : groovy" |
| 12:02 |
rfrasur |
(yes, vendor, I remember talking w/ you - no, vendor, I did not miss you - no, vendor, I won't miss you between now and the next time you call and try to sell me some overpriced junk I could be spending on something useful) |
| 12:03 |
rfrasur |
(whatever) |
| 12:06 |
dbs |
rfrasur: I am simply an honest vendor interested in selling you bug fixes for the code you received. Surely you want to invest in bug 1194142? |
| 12:06 |
pinesol_green |
Launchpad bug 1194142 in Evergreen "Silence uninit var warnings for Search::Z3950" (affected: 1, heat: 6) [Medium,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1194142 |
| 12:07 |
bshum |
jboyer-isl: Curious, do you folks have any ITG RFID equipment in use in Indiana? |
| 12:07 |
rfrasur |
rfrasur: If you begin the conversation with "I'm simply an honest vendor...," and are selling something I care about...there's a possibility. If you start the conversation with "did you miss me?" the odds are not in your favor. |
| 12:07 |
bshum |
Or I guess, open question, is anybody using ITG's RFID equipment with Evergreen. |
| 12:08 |
rfrasur |
hmm, bshum, I know some libs in Indiana but not Evergreen as far as I know. |
| 12:08 |
dbs |
rfrasur: Also, I am selling these bug fixes at the low, low cost of free :) And only very sporadically could I be called a "vendor" :) |
| 12:08 |
rfrasur |
dbs: SOLD |
| 12:08 |
jboyer-isl |
bshum: In a way. My previous lib purchased a bunch of equip. from Bibliotheca, then they merged with ITG, and they ran some ITG software with Biblio equipment. I think "ITG" is basically gone now, it's all Bibliotehca. |
| 12:08 |
* rfrasur |
will also miss you...a little...except you're here and well...yeah |
| 12:08 |
bshum |
jboyer-isl: Sorry, yes, biblioteca-itg or whatever they are now :( |
| 12:10 |
jboyer-isl |
We got along with it pretty well. 5 selfchecks were put in before I left, everything seemed pretty smooth. Someone having trouble there? |
| 12:10 |
bshum |
jboyer-isl: Oh, just a library buying all sorts of new RFID toys from them and turning around to ask us fun questions about how it's all expected to work (or not) with Evergreen. |
| 12:11 |
rfrasur |
nice |
| 12:11 |
Dyrcona |
I love it when they do that. "Hey! We just we bought this thing! How does it work?" |
| 12:12 |
bshum |
I guess the part I'm trying to understand is that the RFID staff side must either be similar to the selfchecks with some sort of SIP connection? Or is it some scanner that can tie into the regular staff client? |
| 12:12 |
jboyer-isl |
Hah. Mostly not. I haven't seen the latest Biblio software, but the previous version they were selling just "typed" barcode numbers into the current window, and would check over SIP to see if the status of the item changed. On a change it would alter the security. |
| 12:12 |
Dyrcona |
bshum: Yes. |
| 12:13 |
Dyrcona |
RFID is neither. It's just a "replacement for barcodes." |
| 12:13 |
Dyrcona |
Where is sal when you need her? |
| 12:13 |
bshum |
Well I know the library is going to use RFID for their materials, but they're still going to need to work with traditional barcode tagging for all their ILL stuff. Since the rest of CT isn't going to be as awesome as they are, quite yet. |
| 12:14 |
Dyrcona |
Of course. |
| 12:14 |
Dyrcona |
It's what stops most of our libraries from going with RFID. |
| 12:14 |
bshum |
jboyer-isl: Dyrcona: Thanks for the tips, I guess we'll play around once the equipment arrives and the library asks us over for a site-consultation... |
| 12:14 |
* rfrasur |
is imagining paying for both RFID and traditional barcodes |
| 12:15 |
jboyer-isl |
rfrasur: That's not usually the math that needs done. It's RFID + barcodes vs. Tattle Tapes (or whatever) + barcodes. A decent RFID system doesn't require additional security devices. |
| 12:16 |
rfrasur |
We don't have any security ;-) |
| 12:16 |
Dyrcona |
"Security" is over rated. |
| 12:16 |
jboyer-isl |
I was about to add that libs with nothing in place get the most sticker shock, heh. |
| 12:16 |
rfrasur |
jboyer-isl++ |
| 12:17 |
jcamins |
Dyrcona: also, when it comes to tattletape, mostly illusory. |
| 12:17 |
jboyer-isl |
Dyrcona: especially without proper inventory procedures in place. "Is it working?" Well, the gates go off now and then, is that what you meant? :D |
| 12:17 |
rfrasur |
Dyrcona: I don't have the experience to respond to that. I find that people who are going to steal are going to steal and the best security is a good layout and diligent staff and those ink things from JC Penney. |
| 12:18 |
* rfrasur |
could easily be wrong, however. |
| 12:19 |
jboyer-isl |
Hah, sounds like quite a show. :) |
| 12:19 |
rfrasur |
lol, sounds like it could be part of a library obstacle course. |
| 12:19 |
jcamins |
jboyer-isl: the assistant dean and I spent several minutes trying it when I first noticed the problem. |
| 12:20 |
jcamins |
But if people can manage to steal all the expensive chairs from the library, they can get a few books out, anyway. |
| 12:20 |
rfrasur |
they steal chairs? |
| 12:21 |
jcamins |
Apparently so. |
| 12:21 |
rfrasur |
huh |
| 12:21 |
* rfrasur |
is duly impressed and appalled. |
| 12:21 |
rfrasur |
we stole spoons in college to use to play....spoons...back at the dorms |
| 12:22 |
* rfrasur |
hopes that they got back to the cafeteria |
| 12:22 |
rfrasur |
jcamins: that's crazy and if it happened in this lib, I'd go door to door. |
| 12:22 |
jcamins |
Heh. Using the cafeteria trays as sleds was popular. Then at the end of the winter, the cafeteria ended up with an extra thousand trays when everyone returned them at once. |
| 12:23 |
jboyer-isl |
bshum: Anyway, long story short, I think everything will work out fine, though they may need to call biblio support to get a couple of things setup initally. You shouldn't have to make any changes on your end. |
| 12:23 |
dbs |
RFID doesn't require additional security? My tinfoil-lined backpack begs to differ! |
| 12:24 |
bshum |
jboyer-isl: That's more or less what I've been trying to tell the library. |
| 12:24 |
rfrasur |
dbs++ #hah |
| 12:24 |
paxed |
are the facet strings stored in db, or are they generated on-the-fly? |
| 12:25 |
* dbs |
throws http://www.omniscienceisbliss.org/rfid.html as a counterpoint to himself |
| 12:25 |
eeevil |
paxed: do you mean the labels, or the actual values? (both are in the db, but the values are extracted from the bib records, so not translatable) |
| 12:26 |
dbs |
paxed: metabib.facet_entry ? |
| 12:27 |
paxed |
dbs: ah, thanks. i guess reingest builds those? |
| 12:28 |
paxed |
eeevil: messing with config.xml_transform |
| 12:28 |
dbs |
paxed: yes |
| 12:28 |
dbs |
metabib.reingest_metabib_field_entries specifically |
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_bott_ |
Is that the answer to "WTF?" |
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rfrasur |
_bott_: It's the title of the book - I cringed, ordered, and re-evaluated my decision to be a librarian. |
| 12:37 |
rfrasur |
they'll read it as part of my soul dies |
| 12:37 |
dbs |
Sounds like a book for parenting teens. Perhaps one I should buy soon. |
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rfrasur |
dbs: It'd be a GREAT co-read if a parent could stomach it. |
| 12:40 |
rfrasur |
unfortunately, I find that most co-reading stops once a kid learns to read fluently (or not) on their own (unfortunately). |
| 12:41 |
jcamins |
rfrasur: my parents stopped reading to me when I started reading faster than they did, and asking them if they would turn the page before they had gotten to the end. |
| 12:42 |
jcamins |
Actually, that's not entirely true. My mother would read aloud to me and my brothers, but I was required to sit facing her so that I couldn't see the pages. |
| 12:42 |
rfrasur |
jcamins: your mom did exactly the right there. |
| 12:43 |
rfrasur |
there's benefit to both decoding text as well as listening w/o decoding |
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jcamins |
I'm trying to remember when my father read LotR to me. I think those must have been the last books he read to me, since there are not a lot of age-appropriate(?) books with a higher barrier to entry for a little kid. |
| 12:48 |
rfrasur |
there really aren't. most things that are written anymore have a really low "reading level" but aren't content appropriate for younger kids. There are a few exceptions, but not many. |
| 12:53 |
csharp |
bradl: heh - yeah - feral cats is definitely accurate ;-) |
| 12:54 |
* dbs |
gets rid of bogus searches and empty text-search lexeme warnings, at the cost of the return of "author:ra*" as the last search (leading to "author:author:ra*", etc) |
| 12:54 |
rfrasur |
(when I told my staff today should be a slow day - every computer is full and every table in use) |
| 12:56 |
csharp |
AaronZ-PLS: late on my response - it sounds like someone clicked Circulation -> Clear Shelf-Expired Holds - which I'm pretty sure will account for what you saw |
| 13:01 |
jcamins |
rfrasur: send it to the legislatures with the caption "quiet day"? |
| 13:01 |
jcamins |
*a picture |
| 13:02 |
AaronZ-PLS |
csharp: The item was made available on the 17th, was canceled as "Shelf-Expired" on the 18th. Per the hold record, it wasnt supposed to be "shelf expire" until the 24th. Pretty sure this one was done by hand |
| 13:02 |
csharp |
AaronZ-PLS: ah - gotcha |
| 13:03 |
csharp |
AaronZ-PLS: well, we usually have to go to the opensrf logs for the full picture on hold activity |
| 13:03 |
csharp |
(general FYI) |
| 13:03 |
csharp |
we don't keep auditor tables for holds |
| 13:04 |
AaronZ-PLS |
csharp: Thanks |
| 13:16 |
rfrasur |
jcamins: that's about right. But, it's just as well. Means I get to print off coloring pages and install skype and all sorts of odds and ends that make the rest of lib work less annoying. |
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* paxed |
logs off work. |
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* dbs |
running out of brain power for attempting to cleanly solve the problem of "big : bad : groovy" triggering empty text-search lexeme errors |
| 13:48 |
dbs |
8 warnings per such search, good value |
| 13:51 |
rfrasur |
dbs: I'd lend you some of my brainpower, but let's be real. |
| 13:53 |
* dbs |
generally encounters a brainpower deficit when opening up QueryParser.pm |
| 13:55 |
rfrasur |
well, it's a good thing I don't even know how to open a QueryParser.pm |
| 13:55 |
jeffdavis |
is there a list of supported browsers/platforms for the TPAC? |
| 13:55 |
* rfrasur |
needs what remnants of brainpower that remain. |
| 13:56 |
jeffdavis |
or any known versions that are not supported/known not to play nice? |
| 13:56 |
dbs |
jeffdavis: TPAC should support everything. albeit text browsers have trouble with the lists functionality |
| 13:57 |
dbs |
w3m can actually add to my list / view my list though. |
| 13:58 |
dbs |
Basically, if TPAC doesn't support a browser, then it's a bug |
| 14:01 |
jeffdavis |
cool, 's what I thought, thanks |
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* paxed |
is somewhat tempted to try IE 6 ... |
| 14:05 |
rfrasur |
don't |
| 14:05 |
rfrasur |
do |
| 14:05 |
rfrasur |
it |
| 14:08 |
jeffdavis |
http://www.ie6countdown.com/ <- 24% usage of IE6 in China? ugh. |
| 14:26 |
Dyrcona |
tpac doesn't support Cello. |
| 14:42 |
senator |
i had to look that up before i could snicker at it |
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phasefx |
did Cello use Trumpet Winsock? |
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csharp |
can someone explain what the "Fallthrough" flag does when linking a circulation limit set to a circulation policy? |
| 14:51 |
csharp |
ah - I see in Open-ILS/src/sql/Pg/upgrade/0677.schema.circ_limits.sql - "If true fallthrough will grab this rule as it goes along" |
| 14:51 |
rfrasur |
what does that do? |
| 14:52 |
rfrasur |
you flag a rule with that in case certain things happen? |
| 14:52 |
csharp |
well, what I'm trying to do is to limit the number of items per circulation modifier can be checked out at one time |
| 14:52 |
csharp |
specifically, DVD, VHS, and videogame items |
| 14:53 |
Dyrcona |
csharp: Fall though on a limit works a lot like it does with the circulation matrix. |
| 14:53 |
csharp |
so I created a circulation limit set for the dvd circ modifier(s) and set the limit to 15 |
| 14:53 |
csharp |
and I'm linking that set to the existing circ rules |
| 14:53 |
csharp |
Dyrcona: good to know |
| 14:53 |
Dyrcona |
For instance, let's say you have DVDs and Hot DVDs. |
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Dyrcona |
You want to limit all DVDs to 10, but you want to limit Hot DVDs to 2. |
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Dyrcona |
Fall through lets you do that and have the 2 from Hot DVDs apply to the 10 for all DVDs. |
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csharp |
oh - awesome |
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csharp |
it would be very useful for us if our libraries had more local configurability (per our policies) |
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csharp |
the rules I'm setting up are for all of PINES |
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rfrasur |
(I know why people hire people to deal w/ getting their kids to college) |
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Dyrcona |
rfrasur: So do I. |
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rfrasur |
wasn't it way easier when we were young? |
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rfrasur |
or was I just oblivious? |
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Dyrcona |
My mother hired a consultant to help me through the process, and that was nearly 30 years ago. |
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* rfrasur |
must have been oblivious. |
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Dyrcona |
If you just want to apply to a couple of local schools, no big deal. |
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Dyrcona |
If you want to get into the Ivy League or a prestigious private school, that's a bit trickier. |
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rfrasur |
Of course, it's also important to note that I also got married, got pregnant, and dropped out sophomore year...in no specific order. |
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rfrasur |
Dyrcona: We're dealing with that w/ the second son. He's much more intelligent than we have the capacity to deal with |
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rfrasur |
ah well. it's what we signed up for (or so they tell me) |
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Dyrcona |
When people tell me that, I ask for the contract, 'cause I don't remember signing anything. :) |
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rfrasur |
me either! |
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phasefx |
if anyone wants to play with pgTAP, collab/phasefx/pgtap |
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gmcharlt |
phasefx: you may want to look at collab/gmcharlt/pgtap |
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phasefx |
indubitably |
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phasefx |
gmcharlt: I think all I need to do is change my extension to .pg and it'll meld just fine with yours |
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gmcharlt |
phasefx: I agree |
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gmcharlt |
shall I just push my patches into your branch? |
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phasefx |
please |
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gmcharlt |
phasefx: done |
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phasefx |
gmcharlt++ |
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rfrasur |
hehe, "If you're running EG 2.4, then it could be this bug.....Though if you are running a different version, then it could be something else." |
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rfrasur |
yboston++ |
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jeffdavis |
I'm looking at EGCatLoader/Search.pm and seeing that regular search, item barcode search, and MARC expert search all flesh out different stuff (pass a different set of values to unapi.bre's includes param) when get_records_and_facets is called |
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jeffdavis |
item barcode excludes acp, expert search excludes acp and bmp |
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jeffdavis |
is there a reason for that? |
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JRShaw |
I'm new to evergreen and Linux and am trying to set up a new system for a small library. In reading through the documentation, I'm finding a bunch of stuff assumed that I just don't get due to my lack of experience. I've done sysadmin stuff in the past, just not Linux. So where do I begin? |
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jeff_ |
JRShaw: Other than beginning with some books / searching on general linux tutorials, you could start with specific questions here or in another more general-linux IRC channel. |
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jeff_ |
The channel's been rather idle for most of the evening, and I'm not sure how long I'll be at the keyboard, but feel free to ask away! |
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JRShaw |
My big thing is configuration issues. I've set up a VM and installed a couple different versions Ubuntu server & ubuntu desktop and starting to work on the pre-installed image under debian. Conceptually I know this stuff. The problem is tranlating it into the Linux language and mindset. |
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JRShaw |
I just want to install the image, edit a config file and run the thing. It seems like there are a bunch of details left out when it comes to configuring a evergreen server. |
| 22:22 |
JRShaw |
For example, I installed the 2.4 client.I brought it up and it asked for a hostname. I put in the one for the demo and it didn't work. Now due to my lack of experience I don't know if it is a simple syntax issue or what. |
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jeff_ |
what value did you enter for the server hostname? |
| 22:23 |
JRShaw |
Looking that up... |
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JRShaw |
demo.ils.edoceo.com |
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JRShaw |
source: http://open-ils.org/dokuwiki/doku.php?id=community_servers |
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JRShaw |
Once I found a working site, I removed 2.4 because it was an incompatible client and I installed 2.2. That however would not run hit reurn and it just sat there. so I removed that and am getting ready to reboot so I can clean things up and reinstall 2.4. |
| 22:34 |
JRShaw |
So is there a step by step evergreen installation for dummies html file out there for non-linux users? :-) |
| 22:35 |
jeff_ |
demo.ils.edoceo.com does not appear to support 2.4 proper. I'll poke the individual who maintains that particular host, and see if it needs to be removed from that wiki page, or have its entry modified / annotated. thanks for letting us know. |
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jeff_ |
The README file in the download is pretty step by step, but perhaps not written for non-linux users. http://docs.evergreen-ils.org/2.4/_software_installation.html is approximately the same content. |
| 22:42 |
JRShaw |
I’ve read a chunk of that already. I'll bounce over to linux sites and such to try and fill in the info gap. |
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JRShaw |
I'll try and pick this up tomorrow when there is more activity. Thanks for your help jeff_ |
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bshum |
@eightball To be, or not to be? |
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pinesol_green |
bshum: Maybe... |
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jeff_ |
cute, bot. |
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jeff_ |
bshum: 'evening! |
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