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csharp_ |
kkk |
| 11:42 |
csharp_ |
oops - my keyboard test came through :-/ |
| 11:56 |
* mmorgan |
often types when keyboard focus is not on the intended window and wonders where those keystrokes end up. |
| 11:58 |
* Dyrcona |
also. |
| 11:59 |
* Dyrcona |
wants "focus follows brain" for the GUI, but that would likely require an implant that I'm not interested in having. |
| 12:00 |
berick |
haha, vim'll get ya |
| 12:20 |
Dyrcona |
Multiple monitors...when the active window is in the other one. |
| 12:20 |
* Dyrcona |
doesn't use vim. |
| 12:22 |
Dyrcona |
If they tell me there's only 98 records in this 40,440 record export again....Then I'll blame "smart" quotes and/or UTF-16..... |
| 12:24 |
Dyrcona |
Think I'll ask if they can take MARCXML if that's the case. |
| 12:24 |
Dyrcona |
It'll bloat the file, but that's what XML is for: sell more storage. |
| 12:30 |
* Dyrcona |
makes a copy converted to XML just to see how big it is. |
| 12:31 |
Dyrcona |
Over 3x bigger.... 194MB versus 63MB. |
| 13:08 |
* Dyrcona |
will likely be late to the meeting this afternoon. |
| 13:10 |
Dyrcona |
I'm looking at the Redis HA/LB branch and so far it's working for me in a non-HA/LB environment. I'll comment to that effect on the bug this week. If I knew more about how to set it up, I could probably test it with HA/load balancing. |
| 13:39 |
jeff |
Was there a list of "we'd like to see more talks about these topics" shared somewhere recently? I didn't see it linked from the CFP, but I could have overlooked it. I know someone recently said "reports". |
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BAMkubasa |
Global flag "opac.located_uri.act_as_copy" (When enabled, Located URIs will provide visibility behavior identical to copies.) Anyone have a sense of the implications of turning this on? We were finding that having it off means we can't add e-resource records to a bucket, but weren't sure if we turned it on if there would be other unintended |
| 13:41 |
BAMkubasa |
consequences |
| 14:04 |
Dyrcona |
I'm not sure that turning it on allows you to add e-resources to a bucket. If I remember correctly, it pretty much only affects display in the catalog. |
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| 14:05 |
gmcharlt |
there's some documentation of the effects of the global flag here: https://docs.evergreen-ils.org/docs/latest/cataloging/cataloging_electronic_resources.html#_adding_a_located_uri_to_the_record |
| 14:07 |
gmcharlt |
the visiblity implications mostly matter to consortia where some members may license e-resources that are not licensed to other members of that consortium |
| 15:00 |
Dyrcona |
It's meeting time. Is anyone interested? |
| 15:00 |
gmcharlt |
I've got a few updates to give |
| 15:00 |
abneiman |
+1 |
| 15:01 |
Dyrcona |
Ok, I'll pull up the meetbot cheatsheet. |
| 15:01 |
Dyrcona |
#startmeeting 2026-01-13 Development Meeting |
| 15:01 |
pinesol |
Meeting started Tue Jan 13 15:01:55 2026 US/Eastern. The chair is Dyrcona. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. |
| 15:01 |
pinesol |
Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. |
| 15:01 |
pinesol |
The meeting name has been set to '2026_01_13_development_meeting' |
| 15:02 |
Dyrcona |
#topic Introductions |
| 15:02 |
gmcharlt |
#info Galen Charlton, Equinox |
| 15:02 |
Dyrcona |
#info Dyrcona = Jason Stephenson, CWMARS |
| 15:02 |
jeff |
#info jeff = Jeff Godin, Traverse Area District Library (TADL) |
| 15:02 |
phasefx |
#info phasefx = Jason Etheridge, Equinox |
| 15:03 |
mmorgan |
#info mmorgan = Michele Morgan, NOBLE |
| 15:03 |
mdriscoll |
#info mdriscoll = Martha Driscoll, NOBLE |
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| 15:03 |
Dyrcona |
I'll give another minute or so, and others can introduce themselves as they join. |
| 15:04 |
abneiman |
#info abneiman = Andrea Buntz Neiman, EOLI |
| 15:04 |
mantis |
#info mantis = Gina Monti, Bibliomation |
| 15:05 |
Dyrcona |
#topic Action Items from Last Meeting |
| 15:05 |
Dyrcona |
#info eyes wanted on Redis Stream-based HA/LB branch |
| 15:05 |
Dyrcona |
#info Dyrcona (me) has been looking at it without load balancing and it's working so far. |
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| 15:06 |
Dyrcona |
I'll update the bug later this week. I'd like to test it with load balancing if I can figure that out. |
| 15:07 |
Dyrcona |
I don't think there's much else to say about that, so... |
| 15:07 |
Dyrcona |
#info csharp_ will look at Debian 13 compatibility |
| 15:07 |
Dyrcona |
#info That's also done and in the main branches for both Evergreen and OpenSRF. |
| 15:07 |
Dyrcona |
It think it went in before the December meeting. |
| 15:08 |
Dyrcona |
Now, for the good stuff. :) |
| 15:08 |
Dyrcona |
#info gmcharlt will issue call for 3.17 and 4.0 release teams in an hour or so |
| 15:08 |
gmcharlt |
call issued! |
| 15:08 |
gmcharlt |
updates later in the agenda |
| 15:08 |
Dyrcona |
Ok, moving on then. |
| 15:09 |
Dyrcona |
I'm going to put the next two together since they also involve gmcharlt. |
| 15:09 |
Dyrcona |
#info gmcharlt will raise a call for a working group to recommend translation infrastructure changes |
| 15:09 |
Dyrcona |
#info gmcharlt will initiate thread/call to action on the GitHub transition |
| 15:09 |
gmcharlt |
both working groups established and held their innaugural meetings |
| 15:10 |
gmcharlt |
a bit more to say about both later in the agenda |
| 15:10 |
Dyrcona |
OK. |
| 15:10 |
Dyrcona |
#info dluch will propose a session on bug-reporting tools and possible transitions for the 2026 Evergreen Conference |
| 15:11 |
Dyrcona |
Not sure if dluch is paying attention, but I'm not sure this needs to be carried forward to the next meeting. |
| 15:11 |
Dyrcona |
We'll just assume that she did. |
| 15:12 |
Dyrcona |
Moving on in a moment. |
| 15:12 |
Dyrcona |
#topic OpenSRF Release Info |
| 15:13 |
Dyrcona |
I don't think we have anything for this, but thought that I'd ask. |
| 15:14 |
Dyrcona |
#topic Evergreen Release Info |
| 15:14 |
Dyrcona |
#info 3.17 release manager - Galen Charlton (gmcharlt) |
| 15:15 |
Dyrcona |
#info Call for 3.17 release team members |
| 15:15 |
Dyrcona |
#info Proposed general release date: 29 April 2026 |
| 15:15 |
Dyrcona |
Anything, you want to add gmcharlt? |
| 15:15 |
gmcharlt |
I'll also send the call to mailing list, but anybody wants to volunteer to join the 3.17 release now, feel free! |
| 15:16 |
Dyrcona |
I already volunteered, I think, but if I forgot I'm volunteering now. |
| 15:16 |
gmcharlt |
thanks! |
| 15:16 |
Dyrcona |
#action gmcharlt to call for 3.17 release volunteers on the mailing lists |
| 15:17 |
Dyrcona |
Anything else to add before we move on to 4.0? |
| 15:17 |
gmcharlt |
no |
| 15:17 |
Dyrcona |
OK. |
| 15:18 |
Dyrcona |
#info 4.0 release manager - Jason Stephenson (Dyrcona) |
| 15:18 |
Dyrcona |
Hey, that's me! ;) |
| 15:18 |
Dyrcona |
I'm hoping it will be a smashing release with all the new features and OpenSRF merged into Evergreen. |
| 15:19 |
Dyrcona |
If not, we may rename it to 3.18, but I remain optimistic. |
| 15:19 |
Dyrcona |
I feel like I should take an action item, but it seems a bit early. Maybe later we'll set up a roadmap. |
| 15:20 |
Dyrcona |
Is there anything to say bout the December releases or upcoming January releases? |
| 15:22 |
abneiman |
we need a team for Jan |
| 15:22 |
abneiman |
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1aKffVGU_vIWbtFR_vpoHsqodSw-Kdd5yn65RpfkMKKA/edit?usp=sharing |
| 15:22 |
abneiman |
sign ups ^^ |
| 15:23 |
Dyrcona |
#info Volunteers for the January release requested. |
| 15:23 |
Dyrcona |
#info sign up at the usual google sheet: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1aKffVGU_vIWbtFR_vpoHsqodSw-Kdd5yn65RpfkMKKA/edit?usp=sharing |
| 15:24 |
Dyrcona |
Thanks, abneiman! I'll see if I have time to do something. |
| 15:24 |
abneiman |
Dyrcona++ |
| 15:24 |
csharp_ |
and just like that, all the slots are magically filled |
| 15:24 |
abneiman |
appreciated |
| 15:24 |
csharp_ |
I'm always willing in case someone isn't able to help |
| 15:24 |
Dyrcona |
Hey! They are filled. |
| 15:24 |
abneiman |
gmcharlt++ mmorgan++ gmonti++ phasefx++ mjdriscoll++ |
| 15:24 |
Dyrcona |
abneiman++ |
| 15:24 |
abneiman |
y'all are the best |
| 15:25 |
csharp_ |
y'all++ |
| 15:25 |
Dyrcona |
gmcharlt++ mmorgan++ mantis++ phasefx++ mjdriscoll++ |
| 15:25 |
Dyrcona |
#topic Hatch Release Info |
| 15:26 |
mmorgan |
gmcharlt++ abneiman++ mantis++ phasefx++ mjdriscoll++ |
| 15:26 |
Dyrcona |
It's on the agenda, but there's usually nothing to discuss, so I'll wait a short minute before moving on. |
| 15:27 |
Dyrcona |
#topic Documentation |
| 15:28 |
Dyrcona |
Anything from DIG or otherwise documentation-related? |
| 15:29 |
Dyrcona |
Ok. then, prepare for the statistics flood. I hope it's up to date. I didn't check. |
| 15:30 |
Dyrcona |
#topic Launchpad Status (as of noon Eastern) |
| 15:30 |
Dyrcona |
#info Snapshot |
| 15:30 |
Dyrcona |
#info Open Bugs - 3362 |
| 15:30 |
Dyrcona |
#info Pullrequests - 129 |
| 15:30 |
Dyrcona |
#info Signedoff - 16 |
| 15:30 |
Dyrcona |
#info Needswork - 100 |
| 15:30 |
mmorgan |
It should be up to date. |
| 15:30 |
Dyrcona |
#info Needstestplan - 2 |
| 15:30 |
Dyrcona |
#info Needsrebase - 21 |
| 15:30 |
Dyrcona |
#info Updates Since Last Meeting |
| 15:30 |
Dyrcona |
#info Bugs Added - 46 |
| 15:30 |
Dyrcona |
#info Pullrequest tag Added - 6 |
| 15:30 |
Dyrcona |
#info Signedoff tag Added - 3 |
| 15:30 |
Dyrcona |
#info Needswork tag Added - 1 |
| 15:30 |
Dyrcona |
#info Needstestplan tag Added - 0 |
| 15:30 |
Dyrcona |
#info Needsrebase tag Added - 1 |
| 15:30 |
Dyrcona |
#info Fix Committed - 6 |
| 15:30 |
Dyrcona |
mmorgan++ |
| 15:31 |
Dyrcona |
OK. On to the better stuff. ;) |
| 15:31 |
Dyrcona |
#topic New Business |
| 15:31 |
Dyrcona |
#info GitHub Implementation Working Group update |
| 15:31 |
gmcharlt |
the working group held its first meeting on 1/6 |
| 15:32 |
Dyrcona |
gmcharlt, I think that's you again |
| 15:32 |
gmcharlt |
documents of the WG can be found here: https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1reBTYZ2JpkRiNTwfaRqhBDdpUlTN8XNE |
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| 15:33 |
gmcharlt |
timeframe we're shooting for is to have completed documentation in hand for a transition in March to have GitHub be the primary place for making pull requests |
| 15:33 |
Dyrcona |
I'm going to info that to get it in the minutes. |
| 15:34 |
Dyrcona |
#info documents of the GitHub WG can be found here: https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1reBTYZ2JpkRiNTwfaRqhBDdpUlTN8XNE |
| 15:34 |
csharp_ |
github_working_group++ |
| 15:35 |
Dyrcona |
Anything else, before we move on? |
| 15:36 |
gmcharlt |
no |
| 15:36 |
Dyrcona |
We did have a good first meeting. |
| 15:36 |
Dyrcona |
OK.. |
| 15:36 |
Dyrcona |
#info Translation Tools Working Group update |
| 15:36 |
gmcharlt |
first meeting was held 1/7 |
| 15:37 |
gmcharlt |
#info Documents of the Translation ToolS WG can be found here: https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1z4v3x4ZNlL9upqpjS3-xPZcC5IPeRnTW |
| 15:37 |
Dyrcona |
gmcharlt++ |
| 15:37 |
gmcharlt |
we're working on requirements-gathering and identifying some services to try |
| 15:37 |
gmcharlt |
we may be stuck with LP for 3.17; we'll see if that can be made to work |
| 15:38 |
gmcharlt |
also, I received confirmation from the LP powers that be that they have no plans on providing support for automated translation branch management for Git repos, so reproducing the bzr-based workflow will not be an option |
| 15:38 |
csharp_ |
eww |
| 15:38 |
gmcharlt |
that's my update unless there are questions |
| 15:38 |
Dyrcona |
:( |
| 15:40 |
Dyrcona |
Well, I guess we pre-empted the next one ealier, but I'll throw it in the minutes anyway. (I should have read the agenda more carefully before starting the meeting.) |
| 15:40 |
Dyrcona |
#topic Point Releases next week |
| 15:40 |
Dyrcona |
Looks like the assignments are already filled. |
| 15:40 |
Dyrcona |
So, moving on..... to |
| 15:41 |
Dyrcona |
#topic Announcements |
| 15:41 |
Dyrcona |
#info Next Meeting is 10 February 2026 |
| 15:41 |
Dyrcona |
Anyone have anything they'd like to announce? Any cool projects? Just happy to be here? |
| 15:43 |
gmcharlt |
Noting that if anybody has any last minute ideas to present at the Evergreen Conference this year, the proposal deadline is today |
| 15:43 |
csharp_ |
berick: ^^ |
| 15:43 |
Dyrcona |
#info Evergreen conference session proposal deadline is today 13 January 2026 |
| 15:43 |
Dyrcona |
gmcharlt++ |
| 15:44 |
Dyrcona |
Anyone have the link handy? I know there was an email with it earlier this week. |
| 15:44 |
gmcharlt |
#info Conference proposal form is at https://docs.google.com/forms/d/e/1FAIpQLSeOxvA0H0couIb61m9JmnqZnJ7dxUgZpw7JlDknjYrnlu6cPg/viewform?usp=sharing&ouid=115637895465765706482 |
| 15:45 |
gmcharlt |
also |
| 15:45 |
gmcharlt |
#info Super Early Bird Registraiton ends on 15 January 2026 |
| 15:45 |
gmcharlt |
miss that, and you'll have to content yourself with being a Plain Old Normal Early Bird |
| 15:45 |
csharp_ |
@band add Super Early Bird |
| 15:45 |
pinesol |
csharp_: Band 'Super Early Bird' added to list |
| 15:46 |
Dyrcona |
@band add Early and the Birds |
| 15:46 |
pinesol |
Dyrcona: Band 'Early and the Birds' added to list |
| 15:46 |
Dyrcona |
Anything else? |
| 15:47 |
abneiman |
@band add Plain Old Normal Early Bird |
| 15:47 |
pinesol |
abneiman: Band 'Plain Old Normal Early Bird' added to list |
| 15:47 |
csharp_ |
abneiman++ |
| 15:48 |
Dyrcona |
Ok, not hearing any more announcements or new business. I'm calling this meeting to an end. |
| 15:48 |
Dyrcona |
#endmeeting |
| 15:48 |
pinesol |
Meeting ended Tue Jan 13 15:48:25 2026 US/Eastern. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) |
| 15:48 |
pinesol |
Minutes: http://evergreen-ils.org/meetings/evergreen/2026/evergreen.2026-01-13-15.01.html |
| 15:48 |
pinesol |
Minutes (text): http://evergreen-ils.org/meetings/evergreen/2026/evergreen.2026-01-13-15.01.txt |
| 15:48 |
pinesol |
Log: http://evergreen-ils.org/meetings/evergreen/2026/evergreen.2026-01-13-15.01.log.html |
| 15:48 |
gmcharlt |
Dyrcona++ |
| 15:48 |
jeff |
Dyrcona++ |
| 15:48 |
csharp_ |
Dyrcona++ |
| 15:48 |
abneiman |
Dyrcona++ |
| 15:48 |
* Dyrcona |
need to catch his breath... ;) |
| 15:49 |
csharp_ |
them fingers was flyin' on that keyboard |
| 15:49 |
Dyrcona |
Copy and paste help. |
| 15:58 |
jeff |
Absent last minute inspiration, I may settle for a potentially very well-thought-out lightning talk. |
| 15:58 |
Dyrcona |
Bird is the word! |
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