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08:50 mmorgan abneiman++ mantis1++ Bmagic++ redavis++ #Releases!
09:11 Bmagic abneiman++ mantis1++ mmorgan++ redavis++
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10:09 * mmorgan just realized how easy it is to transpose letters in the word 'this' in a particularly unfortunate manner. Fortunately, caught it before hitting Send!
10:14 Dyrcona :)
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10:43 sleary mmorgan a very long time ago I had to track down the head of the university communications office on their lunch break to authorize a revision to a press release that included an *extremely* unfortunate typo about the university's public responsibilities
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10:44 sleary about ten people had overlooked the missing L
10:46 mmorgan sleary: lol! Sometimes your brain just sees what it expects to see! Other times, not so much. :)
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11:34 pinesol News from commits: Port forward 3.14 3.15 db upgrade scripts <http://git.evergreen-ils.org/?p=Ev​ergreen.git;a=commitdiff;h=d5a51c5​f81e4265a788fbbb2a0c921ed6b382426>
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13:01 Bmagic Can anyone point me in the right direction for this issue: newly cataloged items aren't filling holds until they are first checked in at their circ lib. They are cataloged at a different branch, and we want them to transit directly to the first patron hold instead of going "home" first
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13:05 mmorgan Bmagic: The "Retarget local holds" and "Retarget all statuses" will retarget and capture holds where the pickup library matches the checkin library. I know that's not what you're looking for here.
13:05 mmorgan In order to get the item to transit to another branch, I think the only way is to find the hold the item would fill and choose "Find another target". Then do the checkin and it should go in transit.
13:09 Bmagic The staff claim that it's been working the way they want until recently. They've not received any server updates or db changes or setting changes. So maybe their cataloging it differently?
13:09 jihpringle Bmagic: could the interval between when the item is catalogued and when it is checked in have changed?
13:10 jihpringle for us new items generally won't be captured for holds within 24 hours of being catalogued unless staff manually re-target the hold
13:10 Bmagic maybe what you're saying is the hold targeter cron job needs to run before they check it in? So that it targets the newly cataloged item?
13:11 jihpringle I think so :)
13:11 Bmagic and furthermore: you're saying that Evergreen doesn't require the item to go home first before being included in the pool of items to fill holds?
13:11 mmorgan Bmagic: When an item is newly entered, a retarget of holds has to happen in some manner before the item will capture anywhere.
13:12 mmorgan Bmagic: Going home or not depends on Best Hold Selection Sort Order.
13:14 mmorgan If there are holds at home vs. elsewhere, that is.
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13:16 Bmagic right! This sounded like a hold always goes home first issue. The setting is FIFO and hasn't changed since 2020, so I don't think that's related
13:17 Bmagic it's probably the hold targeter not getting a chance to run
13:17 mmorgan Bmagic: I'd agree.
13:19 Bmagic ty all
13:19 mmorgan Bmagic: I'm reminded of bug 1686463
13:19 pinesol Launchpad bug 1686463 in Evergreen "Wishlist: Background targeting of holds when items are edited into a holdable state" [Wishlist,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1686463
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